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greenery before landing on the ground. as for the camera, the family followed the sound of the squawking birds and managed to find it. how about that. well, thank you so much for joining me. i'll see you tomorrow night, 6:00 p.m. eastern. the following is a cnn special report. the videos are disturbing. don't throw it outlet. >> their names are well-known. >> we will fight. traffic stops where drivers pay the ultimate price. >> shots fired. subject is down. >> in a system fraught with bias. >> get out of the car. >> with black men like four times more likely than a white
man to be searched. >> how did we get here. >> are you still trained that traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things that can happen. >> you are. >> because they actually are. >> but these stops can exact a huge cost on the black community. physically. >> what has this done to you. >> i can only move my arm this farm. >> emotionally. >> it's the humiliation that stays with you. >> and financially. >> how much money have you paid in fines and fees. >> over $10,000. >> tonight the problem and some controversial reforms. >> get out of the car. >> i don't believe you need somebody with a gun to pull somebody over in a traffic stop. >> unarmed citizens doing traffic stops. >> horrible idea. >> a cnn special report, traffic stop, dangerous encounters.
i'm a traveler, always have been. i love to get in my car and go. >> you're that grandma. >> yes. >> the one nobody can keep up with. stephanie bottom of atlanta is a 69-year-old librarian, mother of two, grandmother of five, and lover of road trips. in may of 2019 she took to the open road. driving north on i-85 from georgia to north carolina for a funeral. she was driving solo with just her music to keep her company. >> it was either santana or prince. >> this is good driving music, isn't it? what point did you even notice there were police trailing you?
>> it was a while before i realized it. >> why, dude? >> i didn't hear any sirens or anything so i kept driving listening to my music. >> the lights and sirens had been on for at least ten minutes. >> then didn't really pay attention to the lights. until the officer came up on the side of me. i looked over at him. and i gestured, you know, what's going on? and it was, like. >> what are you looking at. >> and then i looked back and i saw the police cars behind me and i'm like, they after me? so then well get to an exit where i can be around lights and people, because i've heard too many horror stories of people of color being brutalized or killed by police officers.
>> the officer tossed spikes which punctured her tires and made her pull to the left immediately. >> two of them grabbed my arm and my hair and threw me on the ground. >> by your hair. >> both of my arms and hair. >> at this point the officer are trying to get bottom's wrist handcuffed together. >> they were twisting and twisting and twisting. and then pop. >> she would learn later that her rotator cuff was torn and shoulder dislocated. >> terrible, terrible pain. >> help me, please. >> now they have you on the ground. what are you thinking? >> i thought that i was going to be dead soon. they were going to kill me. >> ma'am, you're under arrest.
>> why? good god. >> what did i do wrong? >> what bottom had done wrong was drive about ten miles over the speed limit and fail to stop for the blue light. for that she was injured. >> i'm going to stand you up, okay. you can going to sit there then. >> okay. >> searched. >> lean up against the car. >> and nearly arrested ppd but she did not go to jail. she went to the hospital instead after paramedics arrived and determined she had a dislocated shoulder. some folks are going to look at that and say, well, i guess she deserved what she got. what do you say to people. >> all she did was get confused and not pull over fast enough if you were sentenced for failure to not pull over for lights. the sentence is a fine not getting yanked from your car. >> squot is the attorney for the civil litigation clinic and one
of bottom's attorneys. he later discovered bottom was charged in the incident. >> she was charged with speeding 10 over and failure to heed blue rights and resisting an officer. >> why do you think they treated you this way? >> really? >> really. real talk. >> old black woman. and because of the fact that i did not stop right away. i truly believe that if i was white i wouldn't have been treated that way. >> you refused to stop. >> it was a traffic stop of a black person like many you've heard about in the news over the past several years. there is the case of 20-year-old dante wright, initially pulled over outside minneapolis for a minor violation. an air freshener on his rear view mirror and expired tag. write tried to flee when officers tried to arrest him for an outstanding warrant. >> taster, taster.
>> it ended in his death. he was shot by an officer who said she confused her gun for a taster. also near minneapolis, a officer killed castile for a minor violation, a broken taillight. his girlfriend said castile reached for identification and informed the officer he had a gun which he had a permit to carry but the officer's claims his hand was on the gun. >> don't pull it out. don't pull it out. >> then there was walter scott. pulled over for a busted taillight. he ran. >> on foot. black male, green shirt. >> an officer shot him in had the back, killing him. the officer pleaded guilty. he was sentenced to 20 years for zprivg scott of civil rights, a federal charge. army officer ka reason nazario was terrified when two officers in southern virginia approached
his suv with guns drawn during a traffic stop. >> what's going on? >> what's going on you're fixing to ride the license. >> the officers reported they didn't see the temporary paper tag. >> i'm honestly afraid to get out. >> he was pepper sprayed. >> get out of the car. >> he survived and is suing for a million dollars in damages. >> get out of the car now. >> one of the officers was fired but virginia's attorney general is now suing the city, alleging that police practiced discrimination against black drivers. about 50,000 of us drivers in the u.s. get stopped each and every day. that's about 20 million per year. it's the most common civilian police interaction. but it is more common for black folks. and potentially more dangerous. >> my best estimate is that a black person getting into a car is twice as likely to be pulled over as a white person.
roughly speaking. >> professor frank baumgartner at the university of north carolina chapel hill is an expert on traffic stops. he analyzed 20 million of them in north carolina alone. he says the disparities are even more pronounced when if comes to searches. >> once pulled over, that's a double whammy, gives you a four times greater likelihood of being searched, just being black. >> you probably heard the phrase, driving while black. it's a common refrain in the black community. but now we have cold, hard statistics that bear it out. so we wanted to know, how did we get to a place where if you're black you're more likely to be pulled over and searched? >> black and white motorists are on very different footing on the road in terms of the risks that they face. >> holmes co-counsel in the bottom case ian manhattans gave us a look at some of north carolina's traffic stop data.
we took a look at the data reported by the police in salisbury north carolina where stephanie bottom was stopped. white population is nearly 50%. the black population is 37.5%. the rest is a mix of hispanic, asian, native american and other. the recorded stops reflect the demographic makeup of the population. they're roughly even. but when you zero in on what happened after the traffic stop we get down to severance we see that there is a significant jump here. >> about 60% of the people searched were black. 34.7 of those searched were white. and 62.5% of those who had salisbury officers use force on them were black. less than 30% were white. north carolina has mandated statewide collection of traffic stop data since 2000. and that data from law enforcement shows a similar story across the entire state.
take charlotte, for example, the state's largest city. black folks are 34.5% of the population. but more than 51% of the stops. about 70% of the severance, and nearly 78% of the drivers on whom officers use force following a traffic stop. according to this 2017 paper by baumgartner and colleagues examining hundreds of police departments, they found similar behavior toward black and brown folks across 16 states. >> at least 99% of them had a higher rate of search for black drivers compared to white drivers. it's not like just it's in the south, just rural areas, urban areas. this is ubiquitous throughout the united states. >> how doo did we get here? turns out the answer is guns, drugs and money. >> they were making lots and lots of money on ticketing them. >> that's ahead.
outside the twin cities, near the site of the annual minnesota state fair is a simple memorial for a quiet man who after his death has been making a lot of noise. philando castile. >> he was a loving caring young man, started working when he was 13 years old. he asked me for a hundred pair of sneakers. i told him he needed to get a job, which he did. >> when i died days before his 33rd birthday, he was working as a school cafeteria supervisor, a
job he loved. >> he was more than just the supervisor. he was a role model. he knew all those children by name and their allergies. >> he also helped some children pay for lunches. >> my son cared about people. >> castile was killed in july of 2016, just hours after he stopped by his mother's house for a short visit. >> i say, you know your mama loves you. and i gave him a big old hug. and he laughed. >> reason i pulled you over your brake lights are out. do you have your license and insurance. >> castile had a legal permit to carry. >> i do have a firearm on me. >> don't reach for it. >> i'm have to pull it out. >> when castile reached for his identification. >> don't pull it out. >> no, no. >> the officer who claimed he saw castile's hand on his gun reacted lightning fast. >> don't pull it out! >> i woke up to my daughter crying and screaming that he was
on facebook dying. >> he was reaching for his wallet. and the officer just shot him in his arm. >> i told you not to reach for it i told him. >> you saw him get his id, his driver's license oh, my god please dent don't tell me he is dead. >> i can tell you i knew when my son passed. i had that feeling, like you -- when you are giving birth when i started having contractions, i knew that he was suffering, that he was trying to live. and when the contractions stopped, i knew he was dead. >> that night he was stopped for a broken taillight. a minor traffic infraction, something that happened to him more than 52 times since 2002. >> why do you think your son was stopped so many times. >> because he was black. because he was black. i mean, nobody can be that unlucky. and nobody is that horrible of a
driver. it wasn't he ran a stop sign or in a car accident. it's none of that. it's what they call now pretext stop. >> for the most part, equipment violations are often used as a pretext to pull somebody over, tends to be people on the poor side of town, often times it's minister. those are stops where the officer first decided that they want to have a conversation with the driver. and second figured out a way to pull him over. >> when you say conversation you're talking about an investigation. >> a conversation goes like this. do you know why i pulled you over? knows, i have no idea. you made an illegal right turn. i did? yes, sir do you have any guns in the car are you carryingny drugs? do you mind if i search the car? >> police officials tell us pretextual traffic stops became a common tool used by follows to search for drugs and guns. and in 1996 the supreme court ruled it did not violate the
fourth amendment's prohibition against unreasonable seizures. the experts say finding the initial reason to pull someone over is easy. >> there is 500 aspects of the traffic code in north carolina between the traffic code and vehicle code. >> it's not just north carolina that became apparent during an afternoon with an officer of the oakland, california police department. >> this infinity has a bumper loose. that's a vehicle violation. top brake light does not work. i can stop him for that. >> there are 18,000 police departments across the u.s., and no standards for which violators to pull over. >> are you still trained at traffic stops are one of the most dangerous things that can happen. >> you definitely are. you may stop somebody for what you believe is the typical broken taillight. and you don't know they just shot somebody. you have to remember that there is guns in the streets.
>> the o p. d. pulled nearly 1,200 guns off the streets last year alone. >> that's always in the top of your head. >> traffic stops are inherently dangerous. i would say next to a domestic violence call where temper are flaring a traffic stop is a very, very dangerous situation. >> that joe grialdi of the fraternal order of police. who says officers are trained to be prepared for the worst as this 1998 killing by a driver pulled over for speeding in central georgia. this newholm x state police officer was murdered in february of 2021 after he pulled over a driver as part of a homeland security investigation. >> give me two ambulances. >> over all, not just during traffic stops, 73 officers intentionally killed last year according to the fbi. at least 55 by guns. >> but police officer deaths during traffic stops are rare.
a 2019 study out of the university of arkansas examined thousands of police initiated traffic stops in florida over a 10-year period. and it found that one officer is killed out of ever 6.5 million stops. an officer is seriously injured in one out of about every 360,000 stops. put another way, 98% of traffic stops resulted in no injuries to an officer or minor injuries according to the study. another study, this one from 2017, suggests pretextual stops do not help prevent crime. researchers looked at equipment and registration violations stops in nashville over a 7-year period. they found no relationship between the number of those stops in nashville and the rate of crime there. >> i've talked to a lot of police chiefs. >> on top of this, frank balm the gaertner, the unc chapel
hill researcher says these types of stops do not net police a lot of guns or drugs. >> i found they find contraband about one quarter of the time. that means three-quarters of people searched fruitlessly. >> we now know philando castile was a pretextual stop. >> the driver looks more like one of our suspects because of the wide set nose. >> five years later, and about 20 miles northwest of whe castile was killed another black man was killed during a traffic stop. 20-year-old dante write, a young father. >> i was on the phone with him during some of the incident. he called me because he was being pulled over. he just said, mom i've been pulled over. i said for what. he said because he had an air freshener in his remember view mirror. >> you think that's a legitimate reason for police officers to pull someone over.
>> no to be pulled over for minor traffic stops it's systemic racism. it's a way for police officers to have a reasoning to pull somebody over. and it ends up in death or incarceration that doesn't need to have happened. >> once police learned write had a warrant, they tried to arrest him. wright tried to flee. >> i'll taser. i'll taste err taser. taser, taser. >> my god i just shot him. >> what were your hopes and dreams for dante? what did you hope for him. >> to get married one day, to watch him raise a son, so become successful. he didn't have that opportunity. >> up next, will ticket for money.
parks. >> made up of about 90 municipalities. >> now we're in normandy. >> i feel like this is every mile or half mile. >> right. >> umia kohly a lifetime resident gave as you tour. >> we come here because traffic stops aren't always about safety or hunting contraband or crime. some cities use traffic stops to raise money. this "new york times" analysis tells it best. there are more than 730 municipalities across the u.s. that depend on tickets and fees for at least 10% of their revenue. these are relatively small cities, right? >> but therapy making lots of money and ticket revenue because they had to. because it's not come from property taxes. >> she says were, because it has gotten better in the last few years. we'll get to that part of the story in just a bit. >> how many times have you been stopped? >> i'm in st. louis, i don't
keep count of that. >> five? ten? keep going. ten was the minimum number of times i've been locked up. so take that and double it. i've been stopped no less than 20 times. >> locked up for failing to pay traffic tickets. for things like not having her car registered not having insurance or driving with a revoked license. >> i had two kids in private school, single parent. paying $2,000 a year if i had to pay tuition and couldn't pay the tickets i paid tuition. i had to pay the rent. i paid the rent. >> let me make sure i have this straight. you get a ticket for not having registration done. >> if you don't have the money to pay the fine you go to court. go to court they tell you court costs, ticket plus fees, you now o$300. you have $30 onto payed to all right on the payment plan. every month come see us pay this by the 21st if not issue a warrant for the 22nd.
maybe payments on time. >> okay. >> so let's say you don't make that payment. you get a warrant. what do you do? if you have resources you can pay. most don't have resources. you just you run. and catch me if you can. >> how many wrarnts warrants did you rack up. >> at one time i was wanted in 11 municipalities. >> 11 different municipalities. how did you live with that? >> carefully. with humor. on a wing and a prayer. >> and if you were on the roads it seemed nearly impossible not to get caught. >> so if you got picked up by any municipality in st. louis once they picked you up they also ran your name through the system if you were wanted anywhere else you didn't go home. you went to all the places first to make arrangements for your life before you can go home. i had parental support. i had someone to go and check on how much i owed in eh municipality. i had someone that i could borrow money from to pay to help me get out of jail.
other people stood next to me and got list of places to go. and just told to wait it out because they had no options how to get home. >> how much money have you paid in fines and fees? >> over $10,000. >> $10,000. >> over. the. >> the practice went on for years before the department of justice exposed it nationally in the 2015 report on the ferguson, mo, police department saying the department's policing reinforces racial biasen a officers saw people as potential offenders and sources of revenue. the report followed the uprising and the response to the police killing of michael brown there. >> we must do better not only as a city but as a state and country. we must all work to address issues of racial disparity and all aspects of society. >> and we have 50 fergusons in st. louis. many of the municipalities have been using poor black residents
as atm machines for years. >> blake stroed runs afternoon cities defenders a non-profit law firm until st. louis. >> you're saying impoverished black folks were paying a special tax in the form of tickets, court fines, bond. >> um-hum, exactly. >> around the same time of the doj ferguson report, stroed's group began suing some of the municipalities. >> you filed a total of 7 lawsuits across seven nicipalities. one of knthose is settled six still active. what were you suing over. >> the basic claim is that it is unconstitutional to treat people with money differently than people without money. if you have money, you pay a ticket, you're done. if you don't, then you have to go through that sort of kafkaesque process of warrants
and arrested. >> the state passed a bill making it difficult to force payments from people who don't have the money. following all this, the numbers have dropped dramatically. for instance, take st. anne one of the municipalities afternoon city defenders is suing. the city denying wrong doing and believes traffic enforcement reduced accidents and did not racially profile drivers. in 2014 st. ann brought in about $3.3 million from fines and fees. by 2019 it was $426,000. an 87% drop. >> are these numbers pretty consistent that many dropped about 80 to 90%. >> yeah, at the high end 80, 90%. some more like 50, 60%. >> there is massive improvement, but let's give it context. >> in ferguson in 2014 there are 33,000 warrants in a city of about 22,000 people. so more.
>> more warrants than people? >> more warrants than people. and that's come down significantly in 2019. there were just under 4,000 warrants. that's a huge drop, still quite high when you think about the fact that that's, you know, maybe just under a fifth of the population that is at risk of being arrested at any moment in time. >> i had to pray and meditate more. i got to find a way to find peace. so i created a space within my house that i called a sanctuary, a way to sit and try to make magic out of mess. >> but she wants more than that. it's why she is a lead plaintiff in two of amp city's remaining six lawsuits. >> i would like for them to say you were correct, our behavior in the past has been deplorable. two, this is what we are going to do to help create a change.
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guys over. >> exactly. >> but the police sergeant didn't pull anyone over because this is oakland, california. and the way the department does traffic stops has changed. what were the tactics like back in the day. >> when we would have crime spikes in oakland we would be given a direction to stop everything moving. that meant essentially every vehicle that you could find a vehicle code violation for you stopped that vehicle. and took enforcement action. it was the belief at that time that that would reduce crime. it didn't reduce crime because it didn't focus on those driving crime. >> what did it do. >> we eroded trust in our communities like we didn't know at the time. >> just advised we just had the tenth homicide. >> armstrong is it a 20 year veteran chief for a year now. he helped lead the transition away from large scale pretextle stops after a 2016 stamford study highlighted racial dparts
by the force in a city about 25% black and 25% brown. they looked at 28,000 traffic stops over a year's time. and what they found was one in four black men were handcuffed compare to one in 15 white men appear and about 60% of the folks stopped were black folks. plain and simple, are we talking about racial profiling here? >> i think what we're talking about is a policing strategy that impacted communities of color more than anyone else. >> it was that way for decades. according to ursy join era oakland neighbor and o p. d. captain i met him more than a decade ago when i lived and worked here. >> how downing racism shows itself in policing. >> racism and biases plays a huge royal in decision making with officers on in the field. often times policing underserved communities that's how you get
people of color stopped. it's like shooting fish in a barrel because there are so many different vials that the officered is within the law of exercising but would the officer do the same thing if the person was white? and my answer is no. >> what we're trying to do is get away from the old practice of saturating areas of police officers and stopping everybody you can until you find the right person. >> they try to stop specific types of vehicles that show up in pictures and videos of crime scenes. >> so you're getting realtime information coming in as you're working. >> that's correct. >> that's what happened shortly after we stopped by the scene of a shooting at a gas station. >> so this information was sent out at the actual suspect vehicle from the shooting right now. >> i mean this happened and you've already got the suspect vehicle. >> exactly. so now throughout the day i'm actually looking for this car. if i see a cadillac the first thing i'm doing is pull up the picture. >> as we drive he does just that. >> let's look at the photo. that one has a spoiler this one
doesn't. >> so no stop. a short time later we spot another cadillac parked, plate stripped, nobody inside. >> look. look at there is a hat. it looks exactly the same. >> i see it. >> are those bullet holes? >> i think you need to be a detective. >> it turned out to be the alleged shooter's car. >> we have reduced the number of overall stops by nearly 60%. and that's intentional. we need to stop stopping -- making traffic stops not actually meeting our overall goal which is reducing violent crime. >> ending stops that don't reduce crime but do cause trauma and increase distrust of police is the goal of a brand-new law in philadelphia. >> i'm extremely excited to be able to introduce the ordinance today. >> in june, freshman city council isaiah thomas introduced a bill that turns a handful of frarveg infractures like myren
bumper damage or items from a rear view mirror into secondary violations, which means a driver cannot be stopped for them alone. >> i've been stopped in the city of philadelphia more times than i can remember. well over 20 times. >> he says one of the most humilitying happened here as a college grad. >> in the northwest section of philadelphia. >> i remember officers saying you look guilty get out of the car. they never talked about a traffic violation. they searched me. i think that's the part that kind of gets dismissed is when they search you, right. it's a very aggressive search. they check between butt cheeks. under your testicles and see if you have drugs. put me in canned huffs and looking for guns and drugs in the car. somebody called in for another crime and they ended up letting me out of the car and just speeding off. here i am a working man with a college degree didn't do anything wrong.
what it does to pride and self-esteem in the moment, you just can't get that back. >> his experiences and the experiences of his friends led him to push for the driving equality bill, which goes into effect in early 2022. >> we're looking at hopefully around 100,000 less traffic stops a year. >> that's important to thomas, because he says those stops take a large toll on black drivers with the very small nearly non-existent return for the city. >> we know that in a city of philadelphia, the year where we examined over 300,000 motor vehicle stops, less than 1% of the time did that stop and that search lead to some type of contraband or illegal weapon. >> that figure comes from the defender association in philadelphia, a city dealing with a rise in violent crime. >> i will tell you, this is not ideal timing. >> philadelphia's police comm
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city's 500th homicide victim in 2021. >> 500 homicides, making it the deadliest year on record in the city of brotherly love. it would climb above 550 before year's end. >> i will tell you one of my thoughts is that, no this is not ideal timing. this is not ideal timing. >> philadelphia's police commissioner danielle outlaw says it's not the ideal timing because of high crime and reduced staff. >> we don't have the same staffing numbers we had a year ago let alone five years ago. and then we introduce this operational change. my thing is what can we do now to get ahead of criminals having the perception they can go and do whatever they want? we're not ceasing police work. i can't be any clearer that addressing violent crime is our number one priority. the only difference with in is
saying it cannot be the primary reason that i pulled you over. >> the bill makes 8 voos violations secondary violations. past due emissions and inspection stickers, late registration, minor bumper damage, having one taillight out. relocation of a license plate. items hanging from the rear view mirror pvrp wrong location for window permits. and it contains a data component. >> we can assess the progress of the bill six months, one year, 18 months in. >> the steps in philadelphia are incremental. limited changes designed with the hope they produce big impact. in brooklyn center, minnesota, dante write's hometown changes if implemented will be big, very big. >> the motion passes 4-1. >> the goal of resolution passed in may is to transform the way the city of 34,000 is policed. >> i truly believe that if this
was implemented prior to april 11th our son would be with us today. >> brooklyn center mayor mike elliott and council wom mar keet awe butler push for the massive overhall. one main part, police wouldn't answer mental health calls. >> when it's around mental health it would be raut routed to a mental health health professional responding to tse calls. >> and low level traffic enforcement would be handled by a new and unarmed department. outside the police department. >> i don't believe that you need somebody with a gun to pull somebody over in a traffic stop. >> we're not enforcing the laws we have on the books right now. >> some police unions believe that's dangerous and are strongly opposed. >> unarmed citizens doing traffic stops, horrible idea. and i would advice them, do not do that. when you stop someone for you know an equipment violation, you don't know if they just robbed a
bank. if they're wanted for murder. >> three minnesota law enforcement groups wrote a letter to the mayor and city council argue attention it was quote misguided and the changes will make the city less safe. >> we are determined to make it happen. our community spoke very loud and clear. and they said enough is enough. >> but they're already running into issues. the city budget passed in december is hundreds of thousands of dollars short of what they need. >> please, please, stop [ bleep ]. >> the officer touching off the current debate in policing in brooklyn center. >> i shot him, oh, my god. >> when she the shat dante wright inland of tasting him stands convicted of first and second degree manslaughter for his death. >> find the defendant guilty. >> to be sentenced mid-february. >> we want to thank community support, everybody out there
that has been supported us in in long fight for accountability. >> valerie castile, philando's mom said she never got accountability she wanted. . the officer testified he did it because he saw his hand on a gun and thought he was going to die. castile's gun was in his pocket and loaded according to officers. the officer was found not guilty of second degree manslaughter back in 2017. >> he would have to face his creator. and i hope he die tonight. >> i meant that. i mean that. still to this day, that man took something from me that god gave me. you had no right. you had no right to take him from me. and i hope you die tonight. >> you often hear people saying,
forgiveness is the only way forward. >> oh, please. forgiveness is overrated. that's not my job. i'm not god. >> remember 69-year-old stephanie bottom. >> there is still no understanding as to why they did what they did to me. my shoulder popped. >> since the incident she has had surgery to repair her shoulder. >> what has this done do you why don't you have dreads any more. >> for one reason i can only move my arm this far this way and this far that way. i can't really do my hair. but looking in the mirror i see my dreds brings back bad memories. >> the criminal case against bottom has been closed. >> the district attorney offered to let her plead guilty to failure to heed blue lights in exchange for dismissing the speeding and resisting. she took that and paid a fine and court costs. >> and bottom has now filed her own suit suing two salisbury
police officers and the city of sales burr were north carolina and the roan county deputy and the county sheriff her suit alleges she was the victim of unlawful racial proevrlg, excessive force and an unlawful search. both the sauls bury police and the roan county sheriff declined to comment to krn during pending litigation but the sheriffs department's did add that they support the axes of the deputy. in court filings all the defendants have denied the allegations. >> i want the officers that have hurt me to be accountable for what they did. that's it. >> is it? i wondered after her experience what she thought about police and policing. >> and i still feel that we need them. we need them. >> every family we talked to who suffered trauma or death during a police traffic stop felt the same way. >> do you think that we as a
society need police? >> i can say yeah. i think that the police should live in the district that they serve as well. and see how that works out. you know. >> we need police. we do. but they need to have better training, and they need to be a part of the bigger picture, not the non-violent overs, not the traffic stops. >> they say all they're asking for is fairness from the people sworn to protect and serve. d cl. cozy, and precocious. with 465 fresh, clean, craveable pairings, find a you pick 2 for any mood. enjoy a $0 delivery fee for a limited time only. after 40, we need anti-aging care that works. revitalift night serum with pure retinol from l'oreal.
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> a religious zealot. >> god speaks to me. >> in waco, texas. >> he claimed that he was the lamb of god. >> they truly believe that he was the messiah. >> leading his followers to armageddon. >> god's word. all i am is the voice. >> reportedly he believes he was jesus christ. >> i had a radio mic in one ear with an agent pleading for his life, and i had this guy on the phone who thought he was god. david koresh was dangerous, irrational, and probably insane.
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