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boris sanchez. a diplomatic stand off in realtime. between russia and the trooper buildup on the ukrainian corner. u.s. officials are warning vladimir putin could decide to invade at anytime. and talks set amid the rising tensions. and disappearing mask mandates. the data behind that decision. and which states are keeping them at least for the time being. and not backing down, canadian protesters blocking a supply to the west. and could feasibly be removed. "new day" starts right now. it's saturday, february 12th thanks so much for waking up with us. >> uh-huh, yeah. good to have you here. we do have updates to give you that happened over night with
the escalating crisis in ukraine. today, the u.s. ordered all nonemergency employees at its embassy in kyiv to evacuate. now, the list of countries urging its citizens to leave ukraine is growing. the threat of a russian invasion is definitely looming here. secretary of state antony blinken warns that russia could launch an invasion at anytime. while the olympics are going on. and he'll do so ahead of a call between president biden and russian president vladimir putin. and that call is scheduled to take place a few hours from now. presidents biden and putin last spoke on the phone late last year. >> we have a team of reporters across the globe. nic robertson from moscow, senior international correspondent sam kylery from ukraine. and jasmine wright at the white house. sam, i want to start with you, given what i've seen, uptick in
tempo, of course, over the last couple of days, what's it like now, how's it playing on the ground in ukraine? >> reporter: well, president zelensky who has been looking at ukrainian military maneuvers in the south of the country, close to the sea, part of the black sea, currently being used by russian naval military maneuvers among other things, live firing exercises. he has reacted to these now multiple national calls from everything from the united states to the netherlands, germany, south korea, japan and others, all saying to their citizens to get out of ukraine, out of fear of a russian invasion. he's just said that -- he says that panic is a weapon that serves only purposes of the enemy. he didn't name russia, but of course, russia is exactly what he's talking about there. he's been repeating that refrain throughout. and indeed, weirdly enough, the
russians have been bending it around saying, yes, it is indeed the nato pressure and the swamping of the country, with the russian view of the nato weapon that is causing the panic and the unnecessary impact that's on ukraine. here in kyiv, we're only 30 miles across the border. there's reports of very large concentrations of tanks. long-range are tartillery. and potentially for an invasion. and it was zelensky himself, at the end of january for kharkiv, this city, might well be is the city to be attacked by russians. i have to say, here it goes on as normal while in kyiv, the mayor there has started to instruct his population about
evacuation. and where to seek shelter and reassuring them that communication and power systems will be kept going in the event of some kind of assault. >> sam kkiley, we appreciate it. we're learning that sergey lavrov and secretary of state antony blinken spoke a smart time ago. we heard, nic, before this call that the secretary of state was going to threaten sanctions if invasion by ukraine. what are you hearing from these two? >> reporter: yeah, we got a readout from minister of foreign affairs here, no reference to what secretary blinken said about sanctions and urging the track of diplomacy. what we have from the russian side, they're rejecting what they're calling propaganda that alleges that they're going to invade ukraine. they're saying this is a provocative act that is encouraging, and this is actually the russian position
and it has been for a while, that this is authorities in kyiv to not fully engage in the minsk talks in that pro-russian-backed separatist in place in donbas. this is an important point for the russians because this is where they've tried to focus western diplomacy this week. they tried to focus emmanuel macron on that and called on the french thauthorities to get the in direct negotiations with the separatists. and the authorities in kyiv don't want to do that because they believe this is falling into a plan, a russian plan, to essentially carve out longer lasting control for the separatists in that region, east of the country. but that's part of the narrative that's emerging here, from ministry of foreign affairs today. and it just two days ago, another foreign affairs official
said that the western diplomacy wasn't working because it wasn't -- essentially put that pressure on the ukrainians to get into those talks. so, i think where lavrov puts a point on that, sergey lavrov, the russian foreign minister, puts a pointen that readout, points us in the direction of what they want, increased pressure on ukrainian authorities. and that's certainly something that we're hearing from president zelensky, you know, the president created by the united states and others pulling out so that feeling, that level of pressure. but the other point coming from sergey lavrov what was heard from russian officials repeatedly that they're not getting what they want from their demands from nato. that ukraine can join nato, they object to that. that nato should go back to 1997 borders. he did indicate that russia was still considering how it was going to respond to letters from the united states and nato about
that -- about that rejection. of what russia wants. but it doesn't seem that from the readout that we have that there is sort of some track going forward from this conversation at the moment, between lavrov and blinken. >> yeah, we're in that window where every word of every statement or readout is so critical. nic robertson, you know that better than anybody else. thanks so much for your reporting. and that call came before the most important call of the day. i want to get to the white house which has been ratcheting up the rhetoric on the potential for russian invasion all week. >> the administration is urging all americans to leave ukraine immediately. this is a situation that becomes more dire. cnn's jasmine wright is live with us from the white house. what do we know, jasmine, about the verbiage and a conversation that president biden is plans on having with president vladimir putin? >> reporter: well, christi, what we heard from the white house ahead of that call is really a continuation of those grave
results. that has been the message. those grave predicament of the situation. that has been the message from the white house, ahead of this really high-stakes call that the president will take at camp david. the presidential retreat. the kremlin spokesperson said it's going to happen around 11:00 a.m. eastern time. 7:00 p.m. moscow time. and that the united states actually initiated this call. now, this is going to be the third time that president biden speaks with president putin, since december. really laying out how critical this call is going to be in his tenure. and now, this really follows a set of grave warnings from the white house, from the administration. of course, we heard secretary of state antony blinken saying that a potential attack could happen before the end of the olympics, that is february 20th. and for the national security adviser, jake sullivan, last week he said we are within the potential window for an attack. and just yesterday, he took that further. he said there's a distinct
possibility that a potential attack will occur. of course, he issued a really, really strict warning for americans still living in ukraine. take a listen. >> any american living in ukraine should leave as soon as possible. in any event, in the next 24 to 48 hours. we obviously cannot predict the future. we don't know exactly what is going to happen. but the risk is now high enough. and the threat is now immediate enough. that this is what prudence demands. >> reporter: now, jake sullivan said yesterday there's still 24 hours left in that window that he's giving americans to leave on their own time. but now, the reason for this warning, sullivan said, we learned more about the choreography. he said they believe an attack could begin with aerial bombing. that was jake sullivan. for the president's part, of
course, we're going to be watching, phil and christi, to see when this starts what the message is for president putin as they enter in this critical time in terms of tensions for this grecian. christi and phil. >> let's send in general lleyton and jill dougherty. we appreciate you being with us. jill, i want to start with you. we are getting word on that call, secretary lavrov, secretary of state antony blinken was urging a diplomatic solution based on what we've seen thus far. do you think that's something that can even be embraced by russia? >> you know, at this point, i'm not very hopeful about that. it doesn't seem to really be going anywhere. and one of the crux of the issue, of course, is that issue of the eastern russian speaking part of ukraine, and the conflict that's going on there.
essentially, what the russians are saying is the ukrainians aren't engaging. they're not trying to solve this. and even worse that the united states is goading them, you know, provoking them, to take some type of military action. so there's a lot of action there. if you think, lavrov and blinken, putin and biden. and putin is going to be speaking with the french president macron as well. then the highest military officials, general milley and gerasimov. and it's not going anywhere diplomatically. and the most worrying thing what we heard from nic, what they're saying, the russians are saying, this is a propaganda campaign that you're exaggerating what you're doing, we're just
carrying out exercises. but this is very dangerous. they could be setting up this idea of provocation that would induce them to take military action. >> they could, but, colonel, they have 100,000, more than 100,000 troops along the border of ukraine. we know there are 30 now, more than 30 warships for russia in the black sea, they say, because they are conducting some military exercises. but this is not business as usual by any means. so, when we talk about this upcoming conversation that president biden is going to have with president putin, i'm wondering in the 2014 annexation of crimea, president biden was vice president at the time. he was in kyiv at the time. he warned russia back then they shouldn't do anything. president obama drew a red line. the red line was crossed and there was no consequence.
do you think there were decisions made in 2014 that will linger into negotiations trying to be made right now? >> christi, i do. i think those are the positions made back then in 2014 have a profound effect on what's happening now. basically, the way i see it is, putin believes he can get away with basically anything. and if he believes that, then he's going to try things. and at this point, you know, he's pulling out the audacity card, i'll call it. he's going full bore, like you said way more than 100,000. probably 175,000 troops, around most borders of ukraine, plus the black sea and naval exercises going on. people have basically, you know, two choices here. either you ramp-up exercise of this type to do something. or you tone it down, and move away from the border. and it sounds like he's not picking the latter course.
>> there's nothing that russia is doing as actually the secretary of state said. all we're seeing from russia is an escalation right now. jill, let's talk about this. nic talked about this i think as well. and we're hearing this morning what is happening with the ukrainian leadership. this morning, former ukrainian president poroshenko came out and said that the country take all measures to protect the country. where exactly is president zelensky in all of this? >> well, you know, that is one of the complications of this, because domestically, while all of this is going on with the threat from russia, domestically, in ukraine, there is the usual, i would say, political infighting, et cetera. you have the former president poroshenko who was legally prosecuted. and now, criticizing zelensky.
so there is real conflict within ukraine. that is making this very, very difficult. that's why, sometimes, the messages seem a little bit confused. there's a lot of confusion within ukraine. and that, obviously, makes it even more complicated when you're in the midst of a potential very serious external conflict situation. >> okay. i want to listen to brigadier general mark kinnet. he's restired. this is what he's most concerned about. he said this yesterday on cnn. >> i'm less worried about deliberate operations. and more worried about miscalculation, mistakes or mischief among the forces. particularly those in the donbas. the separatists. i can see them provoking an incident that would cause the
russians to come in because they would be delighted that the russians come into their assistance. i just hope everybody is keeping a cool head and we don't blunder our way into a fight. >> colonel leighton do you have similar concerns and at this point, what's the answer? >> well, christi, yeah, i have similar concerns i think about the very separatist forces in eastern ukraine, they clearly don't have the same degree of command and control that disciplined russian forces would have. so, it is very possible that we could blunder our way into a major conflict if we're not careful, that is definitely one possibility. there are a lot of other possibilities. i think that, you know, what we're looking at is probably a combined operation that involves both cyber, as well as unconventional warfare, that goes in and decapitates the government in kyiv.
so, in some ways, i think there's deliberate planning going on among the russians and the separatist forces in eastern ukraine. but there's also the possibility that any of these elements could make a great mistake. and that could propel us into a major conflict. >> colonel leighton, jill dougherty, your perspectives are important. thank you so much. >> absolutely. still to come, more states plan on rolling back mask mandates. but many are still requiring them in schools. we're hearing from a connecticut superintendent on his plan to make them optional. plus, canadian protesters are defying a court order as they continue to block a major trait crossing. how this is impacting an already very stressed supply chain. every emergen-c gives you a potent blend of nutrients so you can emerge your best with emergen-c.
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school mask mandates in the next few weeks as covid-19 rates are continuing to decline. >> and that move has drawn the attention to the cdc which has yet to change its masking guidance for americans. the agency says we should continue wearing masks in areas of high or substantial transmission. that map shows you that's about 99% of u.s. counties. cnn's polo sandoval has the latest. >> reporter: from coast to coast, governors are rolling back their mask mandates, according to a cnn analysis, only these six states as well as puerto rico and washington, d.c. still have such a requirement in place. however, california, illinois and oregon already announcing plans to lift that requirement in the coming weeks. that leaves only hawaii, new mexico, washington state, puerto rico and d.c. with noen announcement on when they'll end their mask mandate. then there's masking up in the classroom, school systems in these eight states have either moved toward ending mask
requirements or expected to do so by the end of march. however, local governments and local school districts are free to make masks a must even after state decisions. >> this is a decision which is their right. what i would like to see is to make it easier for individuals to protect themselves. what does that mean? that means basically making high-quality masks like 995 masks as widely available as, you know, toilet paper and soap and water are in every facility. >> reporter: governors in states scaling back and pointed to an improvement in covid metrics in making their decision. that includes lower infection rates and covid-19 hospitalization numbers that are dropping. some doctors worry the centers for disease control could be falling behind. >> right now, we've got the state saying one thing and the cdc saying they're looking at this again. >> reporter: dr. ali raja, massachusetts general hospital urging the cdc to reissue
masking guidance for competency in that agency. >> my patients come to me and saying well, i'm hearing this from federal health agencies, i'm hearing this from local town hall agencies. i don't know what to do. the confusion what we're hearing on the federal level and what states around the country is just damaging to the trust and psyche that the population has. >> reporter: also losing the masks, amazon. this week, the company announced fully vaccinated warehouse workers can go maskless in states that have eased off indoor mask wearing. the new policy does not apply to the unvaccinated or those working in the few states where masking indoors remains in place for now. >> it seems the list of those states actually have been growing shorter and shorter by the week. there are some states new york and connecticut that they have plans to undo their mask requirement. that amounts to 25% more or less of their population.
a quick reminder, in absence of any state order, those local jurisdictions like schools and others are free to implement their own orders that they see fit. >> a patchwork system. polo sandoval, thank you for your great reporting. >> if any parents are actually questioning what's coming next as states and schools re-evaluate their policies. seven states are ending or soon to end the mask mandates. and california is expected to make a similar announcement right now, joining me is superintendent of cheshire public schools in connecticut. jeff, thanks for taking the time. i was struck watching the reading you put out in guidance. watching the youtube video that laid out three metrics dictating when masks would no longer be required. what do you say to parents looking at those metrics, statistics of kids, saying it needs to happen now regardless of what vaccination rate and case rate may be?
>> sure. i think there are a lot of passionate feelings on both sides of this, that there are a number of folks who would like to see it dropped immediately. many whom didn't believe it should ever been in place in the first place. and there are those very concerned. i appreciate both sides. i think as school leaders we don't have the capacity to identify metrics. so, we work with local half officials absent state or federal guidance to create these metrics and try and balance both sides of the equation. >> one of the questions i think i've had with federal officials, particularly given some of the targeted funding that was sent out. i'm not asking you about financials here but mitt tags efforts outside of masking were considered so critical early on in the process. how do you retrofit schools to make sure systems are helping with ventilation and things like. what systems do you have outside of masks? >> well, we've employed a lot of
social distancing. we ended up renting tents with that federal money because our buildings don't have the air filtration as similar facilities. we've had to create more space. we did that with tents. obviously, that's really difficult in a new england winter. but we tried to continue all of the mitigation strategies that were in force through the heart of the pandemic, too. >> can i ask you, you're kind of at the center here of what has been a political uproar over the course of the last couple years. i know you've had contention meetings, parents on both sides, to some degree trying to figure out what's best for their kids. for parents saying absolutely not, do not drop masks, how do you balance that with the parents who are debt-set that this needed to end yesterday? >> yeah. as i mention there's a lot of anxiety. i try to remember that all parents want what's best for their child and their family. and so, again, i don't have that
public health background to be able to determine that. but i listened to your previous guests like dr. hill this morning, talking about how important it is to focus on what does the local data tell us. what does the vaccination rate look like? what does the positivity rate look like? and when we compare our community, the broader metrics around the state, i think we're in a pretty good place to find that balance. certainly, you know, students and staff are encouraged to continue to wear masks if they wish. but we're getting much closer to a place in our data that says that should be optional. >> what's your sense, you know, given the fact, the vaccination rates, that's one of the metrics you guys have already hit if i was reading the data correctly. >> right. >> there's a segment of the school population that can't be vaccinated yet. how as an administrator, you look at that group, how does that kind of affect decisionmaking? >> sure. in our school system in
connecticut, we have great progress with respect to vaccinating 5 to 11-year-olds. so, really, it's the students under the age of 5 which is a pretty limited population for us as a school system. and we continue, as i said, to enforce the mitigation strategies there. and with the low community rates, that's what gives us more confidence to be go mask-optional at that level if indeed we hit the metrics. >> jeffrey solan as a parent of three trying to figure out the rules and regulations, i appreciated your youtube video. it was very clear. thanks for your time, sir. >> thank you so much. already hurt by supply chain issues and schip shortages, the auto industry is taking another hit. that is because of protesters in canada, what automakers are doing in canada to get around the blocked bridges now. that's next. it's proven to make losing weight easier
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stress on an already stressed supply chain causing millions of dollars in lost business. and cities along the canadian border they're bracing for even more disruption now. >> and that so-called freedom convoy started as a truckers protest by drivers of vaccine mandates but now it's become about all covid health restrictions. a protest with significant implications. bernard swickky joins me to talk about the potentially impact the blockade has on the auto industry. he's the director of automotive research. i'll start with people saying this is an anti-vaccine protest or anti-protocol protests, something along those lines. there are implications for consumers across the border and beyond. help us understand who is affected from a supply chain perspective by what's happened. >> yeah. absolutely. you know, automotive has very deep supply chains. our estimates show for every one
job in an automotive assembly plant, there are ten jobs in the overall economy. in the suppliers that build the parts and even in restaurants and other businesses in the community. so when one of these plants is going up, communities really compete for them because of all of that economic benefit. and then when they go down, for whatever reason, protests like this or other issues, you face all of those economic calamities on the way down, because it's not producing money and workers are not getting paid that money and it's going into the overyaum economy. >> toyota has said they expect disruptions through the weekend. i guess the two questions are there concerns it's going to become a long-term problem? and the second thing is how long does it take to ramp things up if you have disruption? >> yes, there are absolutely concerns this could turn into a long-term problem. when the issue first popped up, what we saw plants affected were
near the border. generally, it's like throwing a pebble into a pond where you see the supply chain disruptions affect plants farther and farther out. and now we have plants all over the united states that have gone down. now, if the supply is restored, if that border is reopened, those parts can get to those plants. the ones near the border within hours. and then it is pretty darn easy to switch the plants back on and begin producing vehicles again. the problem is, at that point, you are not just producing the vehicles that are part of your normal volume. you're also trying to make up whatever volume you lost while you were down because of these disruptions. >> i think that gets me to what i want to ask next, which is the supply chain impact, already this has been a significant issue, particularly on the automotive side, when you talk about chips in particular but over the last two years. when do you think consumers might see the effects? you don't think it's near-term, right? it's going to take some time for
it to actually filter down? >> so, absolutely. in terms of how long these production disruptions affect the consumers. there are two different impacts. the one that comes to mind first is just lack of vehicles on the lot. so the automotive industry is already suffering from the pandemic, semiconductor/microchip shortage. rising material costs, labor costs and so on. so when you add this disruption to it we already have dealership lots that were largely empty and lack of new vehicles to sell. so this is going to exacerbate that problem. but also when you have this kind of scarcity, quite simply, prices go up. consumes have it two ways, one, lack of products to the product that will be will become more expensive, the aurng all these disruptions go. and this particular crisis at the border is just one more additional burden that the industry is having to shoulder.
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citizens here in the u.s., than previously known. >> yeah. it was a wild letter from two democratic senators alleging that the cia may have mishandled americans' information collected as part of agency's foreign surveillance programs. >> cnn's katie bo lewis has details. >> hi, it's alleged for years the cia has been reporting through vast swaths of data in a way that can negative affect america's privacy in 'april 2021 letter declassified thursday, saying that the cia has, quote, secretly conducted its own bulk program outside of the framework that congress and the public believe govern this collection. although the cia has declassified some of the materials in question, it says that both the report and the
nature of the surveillance must remain classified in order to protect sources and methods. that means that right now, we don't know what data the cia has been collecting or how exactly it raises privacy concerns. an intelligence official told cnn the report is related to the internal cia data search systems that analysts use to query kwifting data repositories. not the collection of the date for queries used for american information. the official said that the intelligence committee was fully informed of both the collection itself and the tools that analysts use to sift through the database. and that data was collected by multiple agencies. the senators say that the problem is through back door searches of america's data. in general, the cia has a foreign-facing mission and isn't allowed to investigate americans but sometimes americans' data is swept up generally as part of a broader program.
once in the data basis, cia can act it without a warrant. but for wyden and hinrich that data raises concerns over whether americans' private civil liberties are being protected. said in a statement friday, the cia may acquire information about americans who are in contact with foreign nationals. when the cia acquires information it safe guards that information in accordance with the procedures proved by the attorney general which will restrict the cia's ability to collect and retain information. it's clear it's the latest salvo in the ability to examine americans' data without a warrant or legal predicate and ensuring they're able to connect the dots against security and
national security concerns. and looking into how the date is stored, disseminated and searched but right now, we still have more questions than answers about the precise nature of this collection, especially with what the cia was looking at. christi, phil. on the football field, he's a mountain of a man. off, more like a gentle giant. up next, how the he's gettinged notice fod are his work off the field. ugh your day, medicine. new from vicks.
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stars on the field and off the field tomorrow. the nfl's most respected honor belongs to a player who making a big difference off of it. paul vercammen introduces us to andrew whitworth. >> reporter: andrew whitworth just won the nfl's prestigious walter payton man of the year award. the top honor for community service and excellence on the field. whitworth takes as much pleasure in helping anyone in need as he does making a block that leads to a touchdown. >> i look at the community the same way. when i can put a smile on someone's face when i can make them appreciate that someone cares about them if i can let them feel more confident in themselves because of something i can help them to do i feel that same feeling. >> reporter: with wife melissa and four children, helping to raise $875,000 for children battling terminal illnesses.
donating more thanle $00,000 for various education costs and help for homelessness. $250,000 of that to the food bank during the pandemic when so many people lost jobs. >> he's a real leader for the rams. when that contribution came in, it was like, wow, that's phenomenal. >> it's changing people's lives, in turn, it's changing ours and our kids and what they're learning and what they're seeing about life. >> reporter: the whittworth's found a single mother of three transitioning out of homelessness with help from st. joseph center. he had her apartment refurbished but her furniture, toys and clothes. the whitworths had living shelters for 350 families. >> it's really the face-to-face interaction and the things i remember the most. seeing people's eyes, their smile, their emotion. person to person. realizing how much they are
touched and we are touched from that moment. and really confirmed and what we believe is the right way to do things. >> reporter: the whitworth way, amazing, huge, generous. paul vercammen, cnn, los angeles. and if you haven't watched his man of the year acceptance speech. do it. there's an incredible moment in it. i won't spoil it for you. it's positively wonder. >> he's a good man. >> as good as it gets. a former bengal, i acknowledge. make sure you watch the pregame with andy scholes, a cnn kickoff that airs live at 2:00 p.m. thanks for being with us, i'm enjoyed so much, we're coming back in an hour. >> you're not off the hook yet, phil. "smerconish" is up next. we gotta tell people that liberty mutual
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what if supposed voter suppression doesn't actually suppress any votes? i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. here's why i'm asking that question, you know the conventional wisdom. that democrats are doomed in the midterms because historically, the party outside the white house makes gains in the off-year election. come november, republicans need only gain five seats to take control of the house. and since the civil war, the outside party has won at least that number in all but just four elections. well, a ne