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former president trump barred from profiting from selling the property. this comes in light of allegations that the trump organization submitted false financial statements to the federal government. the democrats on the committee claim those statements may constitute a breach of the lease. the trump organization stands to make a profit of $100 million from the sale of the hotel lease to a miami-based investment group. we'll continue to cover that story. thank you for joining us today. i'm bianna golodryga in new york. >> and i'm jim sciutto in kyiv. we will continue. this is cnn with breaking news. i'm kate bolduan and there is breaking news. antony blinken with the united states security council as there's more evidence that russia is moving toward an imminent invasion in ukraine. russia's deputy foreign minister
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is speaking right now. president biden said the threat of an attack is quote unquote very high. >> we have reason to believe that they are engaged in a false flag operation. every indication that they'll attack ukraine. my sense is that it will happen in the next several days. >> nato's secretary general says that russia now has the capabilities to launch a full scale invasion with little or no warning. these dire warnings come as shelling breaks out in the historic donbas region where shells hit a preschool. the concern is russia could use this to stage a pretext for an attack. russia claims forces are retreating from the ukrainian border, the biden administration said clearly now they are doing the exact o pposite, adding mor troops.
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let's begin coverage with kylie atwood. we're standing by to hear from the secretary of state. what is he expected to say? >> reporter: listen, the secretary of state is headed up to new york today to express the gravity that the biden administration sees here. we heard, as you say, kate, from president biden himself saying his sense is that a russian invasion into ukraine could come within the next few days here. we've heard from state department officials that last night, the russian mission to the united nations was circumstancirc circulating some false documents the other member nations alleging there were war crimes in southeastern ukraine and the biden administration is calling that categorically false and the secretary of state will have the opportunity to speak to member nations on the world stage and say what the united states is seeing here. and that is that russia is preparing for a potential imminent invasion into ukraine. the state department didn't want to allow this meeting today to go forward without having the
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need to distract from what is happening on the ground in ukraine and of course, we're also learning today that the number two u.s. diplomat in moscow was expelled from russia in the recent days. last week, left the country. of course, that is a small piece of this puzzle, kate, but what it demonstrates is that russia is saying one thing and doing another. it is claiming that it wants to be engaged in diplomacy but it is also taking actions to get rid of u.s. diplomats that are in moscow. state department saying that they view that action as escalatory. they are reviewing it, they are coming up with how they will respond and of course, it comes as the united states says they want to continue diplomatically engaging with russia but they've also been very clear about the facts on the ground. just last night, a senior administration official saying this russian military build-up
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has continued, adding about 7,000 russian forces along the border of ukraine in just the last few days which is contradictory to what russia has said, that they're pulling back some of those forces. >> kylie will stick close because we wait from the secretary of state. from all the headlines and developments, it's clear something shifted here. we'll get back in a bit but over to eastern ukraine. officials say pro-russian forces are responsible for a shelling that hit a preschool in the disputed donbas region. the shelling raising fears that this could be used as pretext for russia to invade, something that officials have been warning about now for weeks. cnn's sam kiley live in eastern ukraine for us. sam, what more are you learning? >> reporter: well, first, i think we need to understand how this could be used as a pretext for a russian invasion because this hit ukrainian held government territory, a preschool no less, causing concussive injuries to several
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individuals, none of them small children, we understand but cnn has confirmed this happened in ukrainian held territory fired from the russian-backed rebel territory. the reason is considered the potential provocation, of course, that the ukrainians fired back. now, had the ukrainians hit a target that had resulted in spectacular civilian death, for example, catastrophic epically though that would have been, it would have also been oipotentiay the sort of provocation the russians are seeking as an excuse to go to war. they're expected, as kylie is reporting there, kate, to start throwing allegations of genocide around, a term used last week or the last few days by vladimir putin with reference to the plight of russian-speaking people in the east of the country. that term has been rejected roundly around the world. it's complete, there's no evidence, not a shred of evidence for it but it is always the case that the russians
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substantial military build-up look for a pretext, not least sell that to their own people, particularly their army which may not be altogether keen con n unprovoked of a neighbor. >> let's go to moscow now where russia is expelling the number two american diplomat at the u.s. embassy there and putin is now preparing to address parliament. cnn's nic robertson live in moscow for us. nic, what's happening there? >> reporter: gorman, the number two mission here at the u.s. embassy in moscow expelled unprovoked is how the state department is calling it. and also pointing out that at this time when diplomacy is needed and russia says it wants diplomacy, decreasing the number of diplomats in the u.s. embassy is not the way to go, putin, we understand, is going to be addressing parliament,
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specifically on what, we don't know. it could be as simple as talking about the country's economy. it may have nothing to do with what's going on in ukraine but his government, beyond expelling bart dortmund released its response over its own demands that nato block ukraine from becoming a member, back to 1997 lines and the diplomatic language in that letter has some pretty stark reading in it. just a few of the highlights. russia saying that the failure of the united states and nato to engage on its core demands, as i mentioned, about nato there, that it may have to turn, resort to things that include military technical measures. now russia's used that sort of language before, several weeks ago, but to use it again in this context throws a really dark cloud over what could be coming
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next. also saying that because the united states and nato continue to deploy forces to poland, to romania, this is undermining the sort of atmosphere upon which to have these diplomatic talks that are so desired by the united states and by nato and allies. >> nic, big developments there. thank you very much. we are standing by, just a reminder to everyone, we'll bring it to you live when we hear from secretary of state tony blinken now at the u.n., sitting with the u.n. security council who will be bringing that to you very shortly. in the meantime s, joining me n, oh and here it is. >> a goal we all share, despite russia's persistent violations, these agreements which were negotiated in 2014 and 2015 and signed by russia, remain the basis for the peace process to resolve the conflict in eastern
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ukraine. this council's primary responsibility, the very reason for its creation, is the preservation of peace and security. as we meet today, the most immediate threat to peace and security is russia's looming aggression against ukraine. the stakes go far beyond ukraine. this is a moment of peril for the lives and safety of millions of people as well as for the foundation of the united nations charter and the rules-based international order that preserves stability worldwide. this crisis directly affects every member of this council and every country in the world because the basic principles that sustain peace and security, principles that were enshrined in the wake of two world wars and a cold war are under threat.
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the principle that one country cannot change the border of the others by force. the principle that one country cannot dictate another's choices or policies or with whom it will associate. the principle of national sovereignty. this is the exact kind of crisis that the united nations and specifically this security council was created to prevent. we must address what russia is doing right now to ukraine. over the past months, without provocation or justification, russia has amassed more than 150,000 troops around ukraine's borders and russia, belarus, occupied crimea. russia said it's throwing down those forces. we do not see that happening on the ground. our information indicates clearly that these forces, including ground troops,
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aircraft, ships are preparing to launch an attack against ukraine in the coming days. we don't know precisely how things will play out. but here's what the world can expect to see unfold. in fact, it's unfolding right now. today. as russia takes steps down the path to war and reissue the threat of military action. first, russia plans to manufacture a pretext for its attack. this could be a violent event that russia will bring on ukraine or an outrageous accusation that russia will level against the ukrainian government. we don't know exactly the form it will take. it could be a fabricated so-called terrorist bombing inside russia. the invented discovery of the mass grave, a staged drone strike against civilians or a fake, even a real attack using chemical weapons.
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russia may describe this event as ethnic cleansing or a genocide, making a mockery of a concept that we in this chamber do not take lightly. nor do i take lightly based on my family history. in the past few days, russian media has already begun to spread some of these false alarms and claims to maximize public outrage, to lay the groundwork for an inventive justification for war. today, that only intensified in russia's state controlled media. we've heard the allegations from russian backed speakers here today. second, in response to this manufactured provocation, the highest levels of the russian government may theatrically convene crisis and russia must respond to defend citizens or
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ethnic russians in ukraine. next, the attack is planned to begin. russian missiles and bombs drop across ukraine. communications will be jammed. cyber attacks will shut down key ukrainian institutions. after that, russian tanks and soldiers vadvance on key target that have been mapped out in detailed plans. we believe these targets include ukraine's capital, kyiv, a city of 2.8 million people. and conventional attacks are not all that russia plans to inflict upon the people of ukraine. we have information that indicates russia will target specific groups of ukrainians. we've been warning the ukrainian government of all that is coming. and here today, we are laying it out in great detail with the hope that by sharing what we know with the world, we can
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influence russia to abandon the path of war and choose a different path while there's still time. now, i'm mindful that some have called into question our information recalling previous instances where intelligence did not bear out but let me be clear. i am here today not to start a war, but to prevent one. the information i presented here is validated by what we've seen unfolding in plain sight before our eyes for months and remember that while russia has repeatedly regarded our warnings as melodrama and nonsense, they've been steadily amassing more than 100,000 troops on ukraine's borders as well as the capabilities to conduct a massive military assault. it isn't just us saying this. allies and partners see the same
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thing. and russia hasn't only been hearing from us. the international course has grown louder and louder. if russia doesn't invade ukraine, then we'll be relieved that russia changed course and proved our predictions wrong. that would be a far better outcome than the course we're currently on and we'll gladly set any criticism that anyone directs at us. as president biden said, this would be a war of choice. and if russia makes that choice, we've been clear, along with allies and partners, that our response would be sharp and decisive. president biden reiterated that forcefully earlier this week. there's another choice russia can still make. if there's any truth to its claim that it's committed to diplomacy. diplomacy is the only
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responsible way to resolve this crisis. an essential part of this is through implementation of the minsk agreements, the subject of our session today. there are a series of commitments that russia and ukraine made under minsk. the osce and partner involved as well. if russia is prepared to sit with the ukrainian government and work through the process of these commitments, our friends in france and germany stand ready to convene senior level discussions in the normandy format to settle these issues. the ukraine is ready for this and we stand fully ready to support the parties. progress toward resolving the donbas crisis through the minuminsk agreements, in with russia in coordination with our allies and partners. more than three weeks ago, we provided russia with a paper that detailed concrete
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reciprocal steps we can take in the near term to address our respective concerns and advance the collective security of russia, united states and european partners and allies. this morning, we received a response, which we evaluate. earlier today, i sent a letter to russia's foreign minister sergey lavrov proposing we meet next week in europe following on our talks in recent weeks to discuss the steps we can take to resolve this crisis without conflict. we're also forriproposing meetif the council. these meetings can pave the way for a summit of key leaders in the context of deescalation to reach understandings on our mutual security concerns. as lead diplomats for our nations, we have a responsibility to make every effort for diplomacy to succeed, to leave no diplomatic stone
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unturned. if russia is committed to diplomacy, we're presenting every opportunity for it to demonstrate that commitment. i have no doubt that the response to my remarks here today will be more dismissals from the russian government about the united states stoking hysteria or that it has no plans to invade ukraine. so let me make this simple. the russian government can announce today with no qualifications, equivocation or deflection that russia will not invade ukraine, stated clearly, stated plainly to the world and then demonstrate it by sending your troops, your tanks, your planes, back to hangars and sending diplomats to the negotiating table. in the coming days, the world will remember that commitment.
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or the refusal to make it. i yield the floor. >> all right, we've been listening now to a very significant speech from the secretary of state tony blinken. let me be clear. i am here today to not start a war but to prevent one. joining me now, let me start with david sanger. cnn national security analyst. also correspondent for the "new york times." david, you were listening in to this. what do you think of what the secretary of state just said? >> well, first, kate, i'd say this was probably the most important diplomatic moment that secretary of state blinken has had, certainly in his time as secretary and perhaps in his long career working for joe biden. he recognized right away and acknowledged indirectly that
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this speech would be compared to colin powell's famous speech in 2003 when he laid out the evidence that the bush administration thought they had about iraq. that's why he used the line i'm not here to start a war, i'm here to prevent one. he basically challenged the russians to prove the administration wrong by laying out this whole order of battle saying that the russians would begin with and then moving on to the cyber attacks, the missile attacks and then the invasion of the country. he was basically saying, prove me a liar. i'll be happy to take that and then made this offer to meet with lavrov, the russian foreign minister and i think he did that in this, part of this effort to just keep the russians talking. inside the administration, kate, they regard this like a hostage
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negotiation in which ukraine is the hostage and they're just trying to keep the potential assailant talking instead of shooting. >> millions of people, their lives and likelihoods hanging in the balance. stick with me david. back over to moscow. nic robertson is still with us. how is this speech going to be heard? what impact do you think it can have? >> it's very hard to gauge here, because the ministry of foreign affairs here, as we know, expelled the number two diplomat in the country and secretary blinken mentioned there, russia's response to the united states coming three weeks later, uses very dark and in the secretary's words there, threatening language, threatening again, these military technical measures because they're not getting what they want through negotiations. russia's taken three weeks to come up with that, and has tried
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sort of various ploys on the international stage. putin and the foreign minister lavrov met with a number of leaders and foreign ministers to see what room they might have and see what response they might take, and this response is, appears from the read of it, we have so far 11 pages, i believe, it is quite a damning response and so i think the response to secretary blinken's words today in moscow is not really going to be able to hear very well what is said and to turn on to what their deputy foreign minister said before, secretary blinken, which is it's the ukrainians and their back is the united states and nato aggregating on the terms of the minsk agreement. minsk is the only way forward to settle the dispute between the government and kyiv, so i think
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this is the moment we seem to be in a position where while there is diplomatic language coming from the united states, this is going past the russians and the russians' words today are going past the united states. there is not a real engagement and there is no better way that the russians have demonstrated that than through a very senior u.s. diplomat out of the country. >> kylie atwood also here with us as well. cnn military analyst, retired lieutenant military general mark hertling. this feels a very significant moment in this crisis. maybe a go/no-go moment the way tony blinken laid it out, what the russians could do to show they really do not intend to invade ukraine further. what are you hearing from the state department? this was an unplanned visit. this happened overnight. you've got new reporting on how this all came about. talk to us about it.
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>> listen, kate. what the secretary of state just did was tie it all together, right. we have heard this in pieces from senior administration officials about this troop build-up that russia has carried out along ukraine's border, about the number of troops, but the secretary went even further and put it all on the record. under his name saying that russia is planning a pretext for an invasion into ukraine and laid out a number of things the united states believes russia could do as part of this pretext. he said they could go after the ukrainian government on false accusations. they could make up the fact that they discovered some grave sites. they could make up some chemical attacks that occurred or even stage some attacks against ukrainian officials that russians would claim that they didn't actually carry out. right, so there are a number of
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things that the secretary of state said russia is planning to do and that is why he, on the record, at the united nations, perhaps, the most public spot on the global stage, said this is a moment of peril and he called on the rest of the international community to put this front and center. not discuss things that russia wants to discuss, but discuss the facts on the ground. this military build-up. what the united states is seeing. and he also said that if this doesn't happen, the united states would welcome that. they are laying all of this information out because they want russia to turn that. they do not want this invasion to occur. the secretary of state also significantly said he has reached out to the russian foreign minister lavrov and he proposed the two of them meet next week in europe, so that, of course, will be the next diplomatic engagement between the two nations that we look for and we're still waiting to hear how this administration
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responding to what russia put forth in a written response, the secretary of state saying that they are still reviewing that but as far as we can tell from what is in that response right now, not a whole lot of substance that russia is digging into, so the secretary of state wants to make very clear that russia is escalating things right now, not deescalating things. >> you each have talked about how tony blinken has laid out what the pretext for an invasion could look like. i don't want to lose that, general, because you tell me, but it seems significant. he didn't just say a manufactured, i mean, he said a manufactured pretext for the war, yet he laid out options of what it could be. the invented discovery of a mass grave, staged drone strike or fake or even real attack using chemical weapons. what did you hear in this? >> this is the first time i heard a secretary of state go outside the diplomatic speak and outline step by step what could
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happen. some of that is based on the russian way of war. that's the way they've done things in georgia, syria and other places but i think what it told me listening to that speech, he was saying, it may consist of. what he was doing was saying, we're reading your mail, buddy. we know what you're going to do and it will probably escalate in this sequence. >> how does the shelling in donbas play into this? >> that's what woke me up this morning, kate, to be honest with you. the fact that it was so, just so demonstrative of what their first approach usually is. i talked to some friends in ukraine this morning after i heard about the shelling. they were telling me that artillery piece was outside the donbas area, firing into another ukrainian held territory as we've already heard but what's interesting is it was another violation of the minsk court. there's an organization called euro, how many violations of
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minsk agreement have occurred over the last several years. every day they publicize, there's been four, six, eight, in some cases, gone up to 24 but that today using the type of artillery pieces they use to fire into a civilian area, again, it's what the russians do. they try and go outside the norms of the rules of warfare, and go after civilian populations. >> thank you so much for being here, general, and sticking here with this. thank you all. we'll have much more on this. the significant speech from the secretary of state and what this all now means in this crisis in ukraine as it seems something has shifted overnight and this morning. still ahead for us, as well, a dramatic and emotional end to the olympic figure skating competition. how russian skater kamila valiyeva, what she did and how that ended. up next. ong ♪
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dramatic and emotional end for russian figure skater kamila valiyeva's olympic run in beijing. she finished in fourth place after falling multiple times during the free skate. there will be now because of this a medal ceremony for the top three women in the competition tomorrow. valiyeva's doping scandal dominated figure skating throughout the olympic games and really hung over the entire games. joining me now live from beijing is cnn's sports analyst christine brennan, also a sports columnist for "usa today" and here with us, cnn contributor patrick mcenroe who coached the tennis team. you call this performance a disaster for valiyeva. what did you see happening there on the ice? >> it was heartbreaking. i was in the arena.
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patrick, good to see you again. and it was unexpected. it was shocking. it was heartbreaking and you couldn't help but think you were watching the results of the abuse of a child right there on that ice, olympic ice. the world's greatest stage. obviously, the weight of the world on her shoulder. she had a little trouble in the short program. this was just awful. four mistakes. the first four jumps, all mistakes, including one fall and then a good jump and another fall. this is the greatest skater in the world. this is one of the greatest talents we have ever seen in figure skating reduced to just a kid in trouble. it's something i think people who watched it or will watch it later in the united states will never forget. it was unsettling, troubling, awful. just awful. and shame on russia, shame on those coaches for putting her in this position. that's, you just can't help but
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think how is she going to recover, is she going to be okay? so many questions and one of the more troubling days and evenings i have seen in my sports career. >> atpatrick, i want to get you take on what happened today but also, how does this entire thing, this entire saga, truly sad, play out? >> we've been very lucky to have christine over there reporting on this, unbelievable. so thank you, christine, for all you've been doing. but this, to me, is, here's my first reaction, kate, are you happy now? russians, are you happy that this is the way this has gone? not only did she come in fourth place as you see her there in tears, devastated, distraught. she's 15 years old. okay, and the ioc had said when they made their decision here or the cas, i should say, when they made their decision to say, we're worried about the repercussions for her. what about the repercussions now of what she's had to go through? >> that's been on my mind too.
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>> the other russians finished and then who got in silver was in tears herself and heard saying to a russian media outlet, i don't want to skate ever again. are they happy? are they going to move on now? i hope this is a wake-up call for everyone in the figure skating world for these olympic games. absolute disgrace. >> what does it mean for a medal ceremony? another russian skater won gold and you noted, they would train under the same coach? >> that's correct. all three of the russians in this competition all coached by the same woman. she also had the two top, the gold and silver four years ago and she had one of the stars of the 2014 game. she's cornered the market on this and so troubling. she's now under investigation. really good news here is she's already ensured of being under investigation because of the doping scandal. so that's a positive but this is her stable. and they go far from home.
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these girls that are a very young age, parents can't be there. they train hard. basically, interchangeable. you kind of figure that this is it for these three because in four more years, the 11 and 12 years old right now will be the ones that are coming along and to patrick's point, the ioc and others, i'm not sure the russians can govern themselves, someone has to step in and say enough is enough. and shut down this coach, shut down the doping, and also just basically kick russia out of an olympics or two to make the point here how serious this is. we've watched this develop over the last week, and maybe this is the awful but fitting conclusion that this needed to have to wake everyone up to say, there's a child and look at what you've just done to her. >> christine, thank you. patrick, thank you very much. breaking news just in to cnn. the house committee investigating donald trump is asking the government now to
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cancel the lease on his dc hotel after new documents in a court case are casting doubt on the accuracy of the former president's financial statements. cnn's paula reid has got these breaking details. fill us? >> that's right. the democratic-led house oversight committee asking the general services administration to terminate the hotel's lease before the trump organization can sell it for a profit of $100 million. now the committee says that it has concerns the trump organization may have submitted inaccurate financial information which would be a violation of the lease. this hotel, you can see pictures, downtown dc in a historic government-owned building and these concerns about possibly submitting inaccurate financial information, the trump organization's long time accounting firm came out and said that about ten years worth of financial statements from the trump organization can no longer be relied upon.
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the former president has denied any wrongdoing and kate, i will note the financial information at issue here is the 2010 submission, that actually falls outside of the timeline that was given by trump's accounting firm. the trump organization is also not responded to this request. several of those lawyers are currently in another ongoing hearing trying to quash a subpoena for testimony from the former president and two of his children. undertaking a review of the sale of this hotel, for about 45 days, have not responded to this request so far. >> paula, thank you so much for that. i want to turn now to this. video of a fight between two teenagers in a new jersey mall ends with police throwing one to the ground and sitting the other on a couch. one teen was black and the other is white. watch as we talk through this. trading punches but when the police show up, you can see the reaction and the way the cop
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responded now has the police department there facing some very serious questions. cnn's athena jones is tracking all of this. there has been a lot of response to this. the governor of new jersey is talking about this. walk us through what happened and what is happening now. >> i tell you now, the somerset county prosecutor's office, the internal affairs unit working closely with the attorney general office to investigate the situation of what led up to the fight, what happened with the fight and how the policpolice responded. we hear from the naacp said this is a sign of bias. a lot of folks watching this are upset because yet another sign, if one is needed, there is racial bias embedded in policing nationwide. the idea that the black man, especially black men and boys, are dangerous, aggressors, suspicious. in this, the young teenager girl filming this. you hear her exclaim this is because he's black, the reason he's thrown to the ground,
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hand handcuffed, restrained by two officers even though no signs of resisting and the other kid, the white kid was allowed to sit on the couch, not even handcuffed and at one point, stands up. very disparate treatment. we hear from new jersey governor phil murphy as well. investigation is under way but listen to how the boy's mother, his name is kai and his mother spoke with don lemon last night. watch what she had to say. >> i keep trying to wrap my mind around it and no possible scenario does it make sense to me. i hate to say this but if it wasn't for race, then what is it? what made them tackle my son, not the other kid? what made them be so aggressive with my son and not the other kid? why is the other kid down looking at my son be humiliated? it just doesn't make sense. it makes me angry. >> she's not the only one who's
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angry, as i said. the naacp and new jersey state conference said the officers should be removed pending an investigation and despite all of this talk of bias about training and accountability, this sort of thing still happens where police are immediately treating black child as aggressor and white child as a victim. >> thank you for bringing that here. coming up for us, the biden administration laying out exactly how they think russia could create a reason, manufacture a reason to invade ukraine again. we discuss this dangerous escalating situation next. with subaru, you get kelley blue book's most trusted brand winner, seven years in a row. in fact, subaru has won most trusted brand for more consecutive years than any otheher brand. no wonder kelley blue book also picked subaru as their best overall brand. once again. it's easy to love a brand you can trust. it's easy to love a subaru.
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breaking news. secretary of state tony blinken delivering a dire warning at the top of this hour to world leaders at the united nations. america's top diplomat face-to-face with russia in the room saying that he is trying to prevent war by laying out russia's plans to start one.
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blinken also laying out in detail how he says russia could manufacture a pretext for an invasion. >> first, russia plans to manufacture a pretext for its attack. this could be a violent event that russia will bring on ukraine or an outrageous accusation that russia will level against the ukrainian government. we don't know exactly the form it will take. it could be a fabricated so-called terrorist bombing inside russia. the invented discovery of a mask raid, a staged drone strike against civilians or a fake, even a real attack using chemical weapons. >> joining me now for some more on this, former california congresswoman jane harmon, a ranking member of the house intelligence committee and graham brooking, former adviser for strategic communications for obama's national security council. jane, thank you for coming in
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today. how significant was this speech from secretary blinken today? >> well, i thought it was terrific. and he clearly squeezed it into a packed day. i'm guessing he's on a plane right now to munich where i'm headed to for the munich security conference which the vice president will attend which is the next stage to discuss this topic. by the way, the russians are boycotting it for the first time at least in my memory that goes over two decades, i've been there 22 times. what was different today was not just the diplomats speak but a specifics about how a russian attack could be waged. i'm guessing, i have no idnside info, the intelligence is excellent and let's understand, we do this with our partners and allies. not just u.s. only. our intelligence is excellent and by telegraphing all these things that might happen, if russia does these things, it will look pretty foolish.
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i've been saying for a long time that vladimir putin is playing a weak hand badly and i think it just got worse today. >> graham, let me bring you in on this. the biden administration is taking, it's a new approach to this entire crisis, putting the intelligence that they have as the congresswoman was talking about, putting the intelligence out there for everyone to see and it almost seems in realtime. it's deliberate and tony blinken seemed to address this today. let me play this. >> and here today, we are laying it out in great detail with the hope that by sharing what we know with the world, we can influence russia to abandon the path of war and choose a different path while there's still time. >> graham, what do you make of this strategy? do you see any signs that it's working? >> well, it's extraordinarily difficult to measure, but there is no alternative. this strategy of being extraordinarily granular about
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what the options are and what they're seeing in terms of influenced operations that include disinformation from russia is extremely effective and what it does is it limits the ability of the kremlin to use disinformation to justify an attack, which we are seeing at scale every single day. >> congresswoman, tony blinken is headed to the munich security conference now. the vice president is headed there as well. it's a meeting of allies, the russians aren't even going to be there. what do you think they can actually accomplish? >> well, vladimir putin has pulled off a miracle. he has united europe against him. he's now the pariah, and that will be demonstrated by many people at the the conference. it used to be back in the day, i was saying this earlier, i've attended 22 of these, that sergey lavrov would come to each one, vladimir putin himself spoke in 2007, and it was a
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stage where russia could engage, where the osce where russia belongs to along with all of europe and could engage and where individual leaders talk to each other but also to be growing larger congressional delegations. this is year will be 40-plus members of congress, the largest ever. so i think this is another blown opportunity for russia, not only to miss this, but to be engaging in these provocative actions right now. people are now saying the attack will come the day after the olympics in deference to xi, but i think, if they come and if they -- which i'm guessing, look, anything like what tony blinken is predicting, it will be a very foolish move on the part of russia. >> congresswoman, thank you. graham, thanks for coming in. coming up next for us, a controversial new way to prevent orphdo
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overdose deaths. creating spaces for people to take illegal drugs safely. that story straight ahead.
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at first glance it may seem like a questionable idea, providing space for people to take illegal drugs. but now the nation's first two drug injection sites are reporting that in just two months, they've saved dozens of lives. but critics of these sites, they're not sold, saying they encourage drug use and also hurt the communities around them. cnn's jason carroll takes a closer look. >> reporter: for monica diaz, every day is a struggle. she's homeless and much of what she owns she carries with her. but she says it is the weight of her addiction that at times is
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too much to bear. >> have you overdosed in the past? >> in the past. not here, but in the past i have. >> reporter: this is the place diaz credits with helping her cope. it's a supervised drug consumption site, the first of two to open in the country. >> how often do you come? >> they're open five days a week. i'm here every day. >> and the days they're not open, what do you do? >> improvise. >> both locations are in new york city. this one is in harlem. the other in washington heights. here users take illegal drugs with clean supplies without risk of arrest. to be clear, they are not given illegal drugs here. it's where they use drugs already in their possession. >> when somebody first comes through the door we're going to ask them what they're using and how they're using it. >> reporter: in the east harlem location it's all done under the supervision of these medical professionals. >> this is all of our injection and sniffing equipment, as well as our smoking equipment up here. so people can take anything that they need.
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>> are you guys okay? >> we're great. >> in washington heights, the same protective protocols are in place but here, many of the trained staff are also recovering addicts. like clara cardell. >> i see you need a water. >> reporter: sam is the executive director of the program. he says they have averted more than 130 overdoses since the sites opened in november. so far rivera says no one has died under the staff's watch. >> this wouldn't be happening if you don't show up the way you guys show up, man. the goal is we want to keep people alive. if we want people to recover and get a better life, if they're dead, they can't. >> you okay, sweetie? >> we're checking on people constantly. if you see eyelid drooping or any kind of slouching we're going right over and we're going to agitate them. if we're seeing more serious overdoses and overdoses starting to progress, we'll go over the crash cart. our crash cart has oral airways, ambu bags, two different types
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of narcan. >> you look at a facility like this, your immediate thought is, what are you doing to get these people off drugs? >> we're giving them every opportunity possible to stop. once someone says they're interested, we get them picked up, right into detox. >> around this corner you'll find the superized injection site. >> reporter: his organization is concerned that the neighborhood is already too saturated with over a dozen drug-related facilities. >> we really need other communities to take on some of this burden. >> reporter: he is not surprised an attempt to open a similar type of facility in philadelphia failed after community backlash there. >> i don't want this in my neighborhood or anybody else's. >> reporter: these centers remain illegal under a federal law that states you cannot operate, own or rent a space for use of illegal substances. but when these new york city locations opened, the city's former mayor bill de blasio
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penned this letter of support. >> city agencies stand ready to ensure the successful launch which includes the commitment to not take enforcement action against their operation. >> reporter: and recently the department of justice announced they are evaluating whether sites like these could be opened nationwide. >> do you have concerns that the federal government will look and say we saw what you did and we don't approve? >> i don't because this is a health intervention that's working. >> reporter: for now people such as monica diaz are glad there's a new safer place to use. as for the day when she doesn't have to -- >> do you have thoughts about getting clean? >> they seem distant, but -- >> okay. >> reporter: people on both sides of this issue are wondering what is the exact future of these sites going to be. new york city's current mayor says that he's actually behind the idea of having these sites in the city. but again, it's going to be up
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to the department of justice to ultimately decide on this. the department of justice already reaching out to state and local regulators about this. guardrails can be put in there, but it rests with the doj on this. >> it's really an unbelievable look you're offering up. and it's complicated. >> tough decisions. >> thank you, jason. great stuff. "inside politics" with john king starts right now. this is cnn breaking news. >> hello. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. a very busy breaking news hour ahead. we begin with ukraine. diplomatic show of force from the united states. president biden, secretary of state blinken, defense secretary austin, all sounding red alert today. their message? that vladimir putin is not telling the truth about what russia is up to. >> every indication we have is they are prepared to attack


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