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future ready with the network from the most innovative company. comcast business. powering possibilities™. hello, welcome to "cnn newsroom." alisyn is off. just into the cnn newsroom, two senior nato officials say that up to 15,000 russians have been killed in the invasion of ukraine. overall, the officials say that between 30 and 40,000 russian soldiers either have been killed, wounded, or are missing. just shy of a month into this war, the intense battles and high stakes, the talks there continue. russian forces are focusing on
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eastern ukraine. the british defense ministry says troops are moving in from the north and south to surround ukrainian troops in the eastern part of the country. there's also the battle for control of the capital, kyiv. there are reports of troops firing into private homes and attacking a mall and nearby buildings, but ukrainians are pushing back. the mayor of irpine says that most of his city is back under ukrainian control and there's a video that shows a fire fight between russian and ukrainian forces. this was published first by a ukrainian politician who says the fighters for ukraine are chechnyans who fled russia. you see them shooting missiles from a shoulder fired launcher. watch this.
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[ gunfire ] we rarely see that angle. next hour, president biden is expected to arrive at nato headquarters in brussels, belgium, a day ahead of a critical summit in which a new round of sanctions will be announced. let's go to don lemon in ukraine. we're hearing of the progress that ukrainian forces are making in some parts of the country, but also still these images of the damage, the destruction. of course these reports of death throughout ukraine, especially in mariupol.
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>> hello to you, victor, and right on. i want eaveryone to take a look at this ariel footage. it is truly a city in ashes as ukraine's president said this week. that is a quote from him. just look at the images on your screen. it looks like ruins from a past time. at least 80% of the structures there have been destroyed. the prosecutor general said russia's bombardment of the city is not about war. it's about genocide. and we're also learning that russians captured a convoy of humanitarian buses headed to mariupol to help rescue people. but first, we have breaking news. the u.s. government has declared that members of the russian armed forces have committed war crimes in ukraine according to new statements from secretary of state blinken. now to alex at the state department. what more does the statement say, alex? >> well, don, this is hugely significant. we have heard president biden in
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the past few days call president putin a war criminal. we've heard some of president biden's top deputies here at the state department say they personally believe that russia was committing war crimes and now it is official. the u.s. government, the biden administration is saying that russian forces in ukraine are carrying out war crimes. this comes from a statement from secretary of state blinken who is on that flight with president biden about to land in brussels for that nato summit. and part of the statement reads that we have seen numerous credible reports of indiscriminate attacks and attacks deliberately targeting civilians as well as other atrocities. russia's forces have destroyed apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, critical infrastructure, civilian vehicles, shopping centers and ambulances, leaving thousands of innocent civilians killed or wounded. secretary blinken concluding i can announce that based on
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information currently available that the u.s. government assesses that members of russia's forces have committed war crimes in ukraine. now much of this statement does focus on the ongoing atrocities in the southern city of mariupol. that is the port city, that coastal city on the sea that we have spent so much time talking about because it has come under a withering attack perhaps like nowhere else in ukraine. local officials say that more than 2,400 civilians have been killed in that town of around 400,000 people. the statement from secretary blinken pointing out a number of these examples of civilians being targeted. that maternity ward. that children's hospital that was hit by russian forces. just incredible, those devastating scenes of pregnant women being evacuated from that hospital.
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the statement also notes the strike on a theatre in downtown mariupol where it's believed somewhere between 800 and 1300 people had been taking shelter and we saw clearly from satellite imagery that people there had written the word, children, in russian, in very large letters outside that theatre in order to prevent exactly what happened. that russian strike on that theatre. so these are just a couple of examples that the secretary of state is pointing out, don, but making the point more broadly that it's not just about mariupol. it is in places all across the country. names that our viewers have come to know quite well. kharkiv, irpine where the u.s. government is now saying russian forces are carrying out war crimes. don. >> we are expected to hear from blinken shortly, saying it's war crime, but what are you going to do about it.
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that is the next question. thank you very much. appreciate that. i want to turn back to what's happening here in the region and that is phil black with us also in lviv. we were talking about the russian takeover of a convoy of buses. what do you know about the buses that were on their way to help with the humanitarian process in this war. what do you know about that? >> during the daylight hours, there is a human titarian corrir out of the west. it takes people through russian controlled territory into ukrainian territory. thousands of people making their way through that corridor every day in private vehicles. no buses have been able to get in and out. today, the ukrainian government tried to send in a convoy -- >> i need to get to the state department with more information from the secretary of state. let's see what's happening. >> other department and interagency leadership on issues related to genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity. as the secretary noted last week, our office is leading the
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department's efforts to collect, analyze and document potential war crimes being committed in ukraine. earlier today, secretary blinken issued a statement that based on information currently available, the u.s. government assesses that russia's forces are committing war crimes in the ukraine. i wanted to provide you some additional information underlining this assessment. we have all seen really horrific images and accounts from the unrelenting attacks on civilians and sievcivilian sites being conducted in ukraine. there have been numerous credible reports of hospitals, schools, theatres, et cetera, being intentionally attacked. russia's forces have destroyed apartment buildings, schools, hospitals, other elements of the critical civilian infrastructure. we've been shocked by images of russian forces and strikes
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hitting civilian sites in mariupol including a maternity hospital, a museum and art school. the united nations and other credible observers have confirmed hundreds of scivilian deaths and we believe the death toll will be in the thousands. last week, secretary blinken expressed his view that some of russia's attacks did constitute war crimes. he emphasized the department of state and other u.s. departments will be documenting the facts surrounding the law. the assessment has concluded with a careful review of currently available information, both public and from intelligence sources. this review underpins the assessment that the secretary announced today that russian forces are indeed committing war crimes in ukraine. as with any alleged crime, ultimately, it will be for a court of law to determine individual criminal responsibility, who was directly
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responsible for these particular cases. the u.s. government will continue to track reports coming out of ukraine of war crimes and we will share this information with our friends and allies and with international and multilaterally institutions as appropriate. we are also supporting the ukrainian prosecutor general's office and their war crimes director in supporting civil society documentation efforts. i want to reiterate our solidarity for the people of ukraine. we are committed to pursuing full accountability for war crimes in ukraine using all of the tools available to us including criminal prosecution. the secretary said those responsible for such abuses must be held accountable. with that, i would welcome some questions. >> thank you, ambassador. welcome. congr congratulations on your confirmation. in terms of the information you say you have collected and are going to share with partners,
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allies, international institutions, where exactly do you think the accountability here is going to come from? it does not appear likely or in fact, it's impossible basically, that any kind of u.n. mandate or u.n. approved court will take this up considering it's got to go through the security counsel and russia will veto it. so where exactly are you expecting accountability the come from? >> honestly, we have to be considering all of the options available including domestic courts. obviously, we have the courts in ukraine itself as the prosecutor generals office has a war crimes directorate. supporting efforts to build capacity within that office and help them do these cases ultimately if and when they have custody over particular perpetrators. in addition, third states within the region who may gain custody
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or be able to do trials to have jurisdiction over war crimes committed within ukraine then we welcomed the fact that the new, incoming prosecutor of the incoming criminal court has opened an investigation into the situation. there are some options for accountability even absent a dedicated tribunal as you mentioned. >> the u.s. is not a party to the court and the previous administration even had sanctions against the icc. are you cooperating with the new prosecutor of the icc? >> i think everything's on the table. we're considering all the various options for accountability, but no specific asks. i understand that the prosecutor has been meeting with the assemblies of states parties which are members and they have specific asks for those mech members. but we're not a member of the court so we don't have affirmative cooperation duties.
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>> could you just focus on the -- would be, what changes and how can this potentially help the ukrainian people if at all? >> i think it's incredibly important to shed a light on what's happening within ukraine so that the people understand that the world knows what they are suffering and that they're suffering at the hands of an aggressive war that was launched unprovoked by russia. it's also extremely important to continue to document what's happening on the ground, to preserve that information as potential evidence for future accountability purposes. we don't want to lose that evidence. we don't want it to be pampered with, so it's important it be collected and preserved with an eye towards future accountability. >> okay. so you're listening now, that was the ambassador at large for global criminal justice. back with me now to discuss is alex at the state department.
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cnn's phil black with me in lviv and also with me is cnn's global affairs analyst. thank you for joining us on this breaking news. the u.s. state department saying russia and its troops committing war crime s on the people of ukraine. the question is, what does this mean? what is going to happen? the first question was about accountability. that is the real question here. >> yeah. what this does, obviously, in a very powerful way, don, is to put down a marker from one of the most powerful countries in the world that in no uncertain terms do they believe that war crimes have been exited by these russian forces. some would say it's been quite obvious over the past few weeks as russians have stepped up their attacks. obviously not just on military targets in ukraine, but on civilians as well. ukrainian officials saying now that thousands of ukrainian civilians have been killed as a result of this russian assault.
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but this is a major question. it is not, you know, the u.s. is not going to be able to necessarily carry out the prosecutions of russian officials themselves. there's a much larger question of which court would undertake these allegations. these accusations of russian war crimes. you heard that in the first question there from the ap's matt lee. where would they actually be held accountable. the first instinct would be the international criminal court, but as was noted by the ambassador, the u.s. is not a member of the international criminal court. so what the u.s. can do on its own is carry out prosecutions in its own courts, in domestic courts, in american courts. that's one thing that the u.s. can do. the ambassador also noting that the ukrainians obviously have their own courts in which, where russians could be prosecuted.
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but this is going to be the biggest question out of this announcement is it's all well and good for the u.s. to declare these war crimes have taken place, but what could be the possible consequences from russian officials? where would they possibly face those? that is very much to be determined. what is not to be determined according to the united states is this question of whether or not war crimes have been committed. >> yeah. and as you heard, kimberly, the ambassador say, this is really about showing solidarity to the ukrainian people and letting the world know that they're watching. they're paying attention and they believe, meaning the united states and its allies, that putin and the russians have indeed committed war crimes. it's a way of putting it on the record so to speak. am i wrong? >> it's the right thing to do. also something the zelenskyy government has been pushing for
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on all global powers that go against russia. but it's also a message to everyone around vladimir putin. does he care? no. but every top official who's part of his hierarchy and every top military commander, they're the ones who could really be impacted by this. if they are convicted, they'll never be able to travel anywhere in europe or the united states the way these judgments usually come down, and they become wanted men. stuck inside russia from here on out. >> kimberly, thank you for that. let's bring it back here. you and i are both in the region. we've been watching this horror play out as is mentioned here, you know, in the statement that the state department put out talking about, it includes mariupol maternity hospital. office of high commission of human rights especially noted on what happened on march 11th there.
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it includes a strike on a mariupol theatre where it was clearly marked outside that children were there. we were talking about buses that were humanitarian aid, bombed. 11 of them at least. so what are we talking about here? it's horrific what we're talking about. >> the thing to remember is that this is still ongoing. mariupol is an ongoing siege. there have been these horrible moments through the war such as the maternity hospital, the theatre with perhaps 1300 people inside. the pictures show just how widespread and indiscriminate this bombardment is. the civilian population there has been struck again and again and again and again. and there are still hundreds of thousands of people, we understand, trapped there. enduring terrible conditions with little food, water, heat, living in constant fear. not knowing when they will feel safe again, if they will get out. not knowing how this is going to end. so i guess perhaps an interesting point here is
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perhaps not accountability because that seems unlikely in the long-term, realistically. the russian constitution doesn't allow for extradition anyway so these people, if they have to stay in russia, they'll stay in russia if individuals are identified. but could this deter people? could this alter the way that this particular campaign is being conducted? perhaps there might be some individuals that are impacted by this, but if you look at the overall campaign from the leadership down and the way that war is being waged in this country, you would not think this is going to be a significant deterrent. >> changing the tactics being used. >> for the u.s. state department to come out, the president of the united states to say our allies weighing in, but the state department now acknowledging it saying they are at least going to try to sort of accountability for it i think says a lot and that will bring attention to it. the media and people will continue to talk about it. phil, alex, kim, thank you very
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much for that, victor. so there you go. the circumstances and details surrounding this war can change at any moment. back to you in new york. >> that big declaration right before the president lands in brussels, don. thank you very much. he's expected to arrive there next hour for tomorrow's nato summit. before president biden left though, he acknowledged concerns that russia could use chemical weapons against ukraine. >> president -- >> how concerned are you about the threat of chemical warfare? how high is that threat? >> i think it's a real threat. >> wolf blitzer joins me now from brussels. wolf, very high stakes for the president. there could be huge implications for nato. what should we expect from this summit? >> it's going to be really, really important, victor. probably the most important national security foreign policy trip that this president, president biden, has undertaken
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so far. the stakes right now are enormous. there is great fear as you know that what's going on in ukraine right now potentially, potentially could get a whole lot worse. this war is by no means over and president biden is going to be meeting with all of the other 29 nato leaders here in brussels. that's going to be critically important to determine what nato as an alliance will do. he'll also meet with the g-7 leaders separate round of talks on that and finally, he's going to meet with the e.u. the european council. they're going to have a separate round of talks. the president will have a formal news conference here in brussels before he heads off to warsaw, poland, for u.s. efforts to try to deal with this enormous refugee crisis. 3.5 million refugees from ukraine have spilled over now. have left ukraine and have gone over to neighboring countries. most of them going to poland. so the president's going to be going to poland.
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this is critically, all of this is critically important because there is great fear among the u.s. that the russians in their desperation potentially, god forbid, could use chemical or biological weapons and they're even talking about some sort of tactical nuclear weapons. one of the topics on the agenda, there's no doubt about this, will be the deployment of more nato battle groups. u.s. troops. other nato allies troops in eastern nato. eastern nato countries. the u.s. ambassador to nato just said nato leaders will approve four additional battle groups in hungary, romania, bulgaria, and slovakia. all nato allies, of course. joining me here in brussels is kaitlan collins. i understand you and your team, you've been getting new reporting about various options being presented to president biden for sending more u.s.
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troops and other nato troops to eastern europe. tell our viewers what you've learned. >> yeah, wolf. president biden will be here in brussels in about an hour from now, but before he left, the pentagon did provide him with a range of options for sending u.s. troops to nato countries here in europe that are understandably concerned about russian aggression given this invasion of ukraine that has now stretched into one month. so while it remains to be seen what exactly president biden and other allies here at the summit are going to talk about, what they will finalize when it comes to this decision, this seems likely because you heard from the head of nato saying they expect to increase the nato force posture. that likely means more u.s. troops are m coinming to these eastern european countries on the border of ukraine or countries that have real concern about their protection, sovereignty, safety. this is something that has been discussed behind the scenes.
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it's only going to be part of the announcements you're getting from president biden tomorrow though after he has a series of meetings, very abruptly scheduled meetings where he is expected to announce new sanctions on russia. part of it is going to be sanctions hundreds of russian lawmakers in the lower house of parliament and they're going to announce new measures to crack down on existing sanctions. all of this is up for discussion while president biden is going to be here meeting with these nato allies, going to a european council meeting and also meeting with the leaders of the g-7 nations here tomorrow in brussels, wolf. >> we're going to be really, really busy. that is going to be an historic day in brussels. we're going to be watching every step of the way as the stakes right now, what's going to happen to these millions and millions of people in ukraine? the stakes are clearly enormous. kaitlan collins is here with us. victor, we're going to have a special edition of "the situation room" later today, 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. two hours. we're watching all of this
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aid to ukraine has been delivered according to a u.s. official. the rest of the $800 million package will arrive as soon as possible. what are we talking about here? these are the antiaircraft systems. the armed drones. other critical defenses to help the ukrainians fight russian forces. the ukrainian troops are pushing back and holding territory in some areas. they have regained control of the town of macare near the capital. they're putting pressure on russian troops in kharkiv, mykolaiv and kherson. we also learned that 15,000, up to 15,000 russian soldiers have been killed since the invasion began four weeks ago. that's according to two senior nato military officials. let's discuss with steve anderson. general, welcome back.
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before we go to that, i want to ask you about this assessment. it's current assessment, it has been for some time now, that russians had been stalled in this approach toward the capital and in other areas in the country, but how do you reconcile that with the bombardment, these devastating attacks we're seeing across the country? >> well, thank you, victor, for having me. it shows you what a desperate man will do when he can't impose his will. his military is not doing what it needs to do. in the first phase, he attempted to do a blitzkrieg so then he adopted the next phase, essentially what we're no now, the bomb and the submission phase. i submit to you it's going to fail just like the first phase did. but what's really good news about the delivery of the supplies from the united states in this aid package is that now they can perhaps support a counteroffensive. we just saw perhaps the victory
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in retaking that city. we've seen activity in kherson that was successful and this is really good news for the ukrainians because they need to negotiate with putin from a position of strength. it's not going to happen until they push him back and conduct a successful counteroffensive. there are three indicators if you'll let me continue just a bit. that are going well for them, which is the first is that the will of the ukraine people is very, very good. it continues to be good. they continue to resist. the second is that the ukrainian logistics system appears to going to be well. we thought early on it would be a race between the logistics systems of the west versus the russians logistics system. we can see theirs is table. the roads have been shut down. they've lost 700 trucks. they had 14 rail brigades. they don't have any airports
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that are operating effectively whereas the ukrainians are able to get everything they want and their people food and water. the third indicator that the ukrainian morale and leadership is very, very strong, good logistics contributes to good morale. it's hard for a person to fight when they're not appropriately fed, if they're thirsty, cold, and out of ammo. you see the russians, they lost five general officers. they have no non-commissioned officers. all their decision making is centralized. all that is indicators that they have really low morale and the american army would never leave a fallen comrade. the delivery of these systems, in particular support to an emerging counteroffensive is important and need to continue. >> let's talk about the russians and what could come next because we learned from u.k. ministry of defense that the russians potentially are now moving in from kharkiv, moving troops here
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in toward the center of the country and could possibly try to surround troops in the east. the ukrainian troops. also we know that belarus, they could join this fight as well with their troops. an is it your expectation that the troops coming in from belarus would go toward the capital to try to encircle kyiv or as we've seen the increase in attacks out west that they would head toward lviv? >> my assessment is that they're going to be used anywhere they'd be used in the west. we're only talking about 20,000 troops here. about two enhanced brigades, maybe two reserve brigades. they have a poor reputation in the military community. the other thing is command and control, how is this going to work? are they going to report to the russians? how are they going to integrate what they're doing? in the american army, we fight as a combined arms team.
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we integrate air and artillery. we conduct maneuver warfare whereas it looks like the russians, they understand nothing but brute force warfare and they're going to have the same problems as the russians in operating ukraine because they've got a very resilient enemy they're fighting, who know what they're doing. they know every nook and cranny in the terrain and now you've got people coming down from the north. they can't just pull it up on map quest or google maps. they don't know where tahey're going and they're going to run into people that do and they're going to know how to flank them and kill them. >> troop levels are not the biggest problem for the russians right now. as you talked about many of their logistic challenges as well. thank you. this is the final day of questioning in the hearings for
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at any moment now, the senate judiciary committee will continue with round two of questioning of supreme court nominee, judge ketanji brown jackson. today, republicans continued to cast her, or tried to cast her, as a judicial activist and question her stance on court backing, question her time as a public defender and again, her sentencing record as a judge. >> it seems as though you're a
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very kind person and there's at least a level of empathy that enters into your treatment of a defendant that some could view as a, maybe beyond what some of us would be comfortable with with respect to administering my attempts to communicate directly with defendants is about public safety because most people are incarcerated via a federal system and via the state system will come out. it's to our congress recognized to ensure that people come out, stop committing crimes. >> we saw what appeared to be a
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bit of frustration from jackson today especially in this exchange with senator graham. i think these are live pictures. b what moments stood out to you? >> you're right. they continue to press her of being soft on crime. she continues to push back on it. she says, i come from a family of law enforcement. my brother was in law enforcement. my uncle s were in law enforcement. i believe in public safety. she was trying to push back hard on that notion that she is soft on crime. she also talked about something else interesting today. she was asked about the meaning of her nomination. the fact she's the first black woman to be nominated to the supreme court. she was pretty eloquent in her response referring back to her parents. take a listen here.
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>> my parents grew up in florida under lawful segregation. when they were going to middle school and high school, they were not allowed to go to school with white students. i consider myself having been born in 1970 to be the first generation to benefit from the civil rights movement from the legacy of all of the work of so many people that went into changing the laws in this country so that people like me could have an opportunity to be sitting here before you today. >> right there again, you're seeing her stressing the historic nature of her nomination. she sat for 13 hours today. she's supposed to go for 7:00 p.m. tonight. two very long days so far.
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>> i just got a note from our producer she is being questioned by senator ted cruz. we know that yesterday his questioning focused in large part on critical race theory. his questions about her thoughts on that and also he said at one poich point he saw was an activism for sexual predator. we'll bring do you the latest from this round of questioning. thank you very much. food and medical supplies are running low many cities across ukraine. officials warn the consequences of putin's war could be global and threaten food security across the world. we'll talk more about this, next. ce so you only pay for what you need, and we gotta do it fast. [limu emu squawks] woo! new personal record, limu! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty, liberty, liberty, libererty. ♪ having a 5g phone that's not on t-mobile
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these corridors are also crucial. they are critical for getting aid to people who remain trapped in cut off areas. the world food program warns food supply chains in ukraine are falling apart. he joins us now. he's in poland. thank you so much. i appreciate you joining us. that's according to aid groups. the aide group from mercy corp. what's your biggest concern here? access for the people tha
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need it the post. they are about how to get food and food is in the top three concerns next to security, obviously and fuel for transportation and fuel for cooking. it's access we need to reach the people. you talk about the corridors so far. the corridors have been to mainly get people out and they have not been allowed to bring supplies in. if you talk to city of one million people, we will talk about 20 a day that will have to go to provide food for the entire population.
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>> what type of change and strategy is necessary to reach these folks? >> we need it from both sides. we need commitment from both sides to stop fighting, to stop the hostilities for 48 hours, 24, 48 hours to give us a window to safely deliver food in and also bring people, our own people and other people out of the city. these windows are crucial for delivery of food to places like mariupol. we need that from both sides to let us do that in a safe manner. >> jacob, the european union president said that putin's war threatens food security across the world. it's not just ukraine. what could those consequences look like in your estimation?
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>> the most dire consequence would be higher food prices. combine 30% of the wheat production in the world. you crane is the fifth largest producer worldwide and in the top three for sunflower oil. if it doesn't come out of this, people have to buy it from further away. the consequence the price is going up. for the world food, we have 50% of the wheat worldwide that we needed 790 million tons in ukraine. as a consequence of the high food prices, we have to spend 70 million more for the same amount

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