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made recently to our congress and we're truly honored by his presence here under the circumstances that he and ukraine face today. madam president, last night, i returned from a trip to moldova and romania. i saw with my own eyes the refugee crisis caused by russia's unconscionable war. i spoke to refugees who indicated to me their desires to return to their home. and we've all seen the images on tv of the bombed out buildings. but what we have not seen is that behind those destroyed buildings are destroyed lives and destroyed families. i met with women and children who fled ukraine who stuffed
their lives into backpacks and left the only home they had ever known. and these were sobering conversations. one young woman i spoke to came with her 6-year-old brother who had autism and is struggling with cancer. their single mother helped them escape to save their lives, but russia's war has interrupted the care her brother desperately needs. another woman i spoke to fled with her 8-year-old from odesa. the father who they'd left behind told them there was shelling right next to their apartment that very night. and they very well could have died had they not left. a third woman i met told me that she used to love to travel, but never expected her next trip would be to flee her life. flee for her life.
when i asked her where she was from, she started to say and then she stopped with tears in her eyes and said, i'm sorry, i don't know how to say it. but i live in kyiv or whether i used to live in kyiv. she was realizing in the moment just how dramatically her life had changed because of this senseless war. these are three stories of more than 10 million people. 6 million internally displaced, 4 million who have left ukraine altogether. 4 million people who have relied on the big heartedness of countries like moldova, romania, poland, slovakia, hungary and others across the region and the world to welcome and support all those leaving ukraine in search of safety. ukraine's neighbors are bearing
the brunt of europe's most significant refugee crisis since world war ii. and i want these countries to know that they have a committed partner in the united states. and that is why the united states announced recently that we are prepared to provide more than $1 billion in new funding toward humanitarian assistance for those affected by russia's war in ukraine, and its severe impact around the world. and it is why we are welcoming up to 100,000 ukrainians and others fleeing russia's aggression to the united states. we will continue to assist humanitarian efforts to help the people of ukraine and all those fleeing putin's violence. but as heart wrenching as the stories are that i heard in moldova and romania, there are some stories we will never get
to hear. those of the people we saw in the images out of bucha. we've all seen the gruesome photos. lifeless bodies lying in the streets, apparently executed, their hands tied behind their backs. as we work to independently confirm the events depicted in these images, i would remind this council based on the currently available information, the united states has assessed that members of russia's forces have committed war crimes in ukraine and even before seeing the images from bucha, president zelenskyy along with others in the region were reporting that children were being abducted and we heard him say that today. also abducted are mayors and doctors, religious leaders, journalists and all who dare defy russia's aggression.
some of them, according to credible reports, including by the mariupol city council, have been taken to so-called filtration camps where russian forces are reportedly making tens of thousands of ukrainian citizens relocate to russia. reports indicate that russian federal security agents are confiscating passports and ids, taking away cell phones and separating families from one another. i do not need to spell out what these so-called filtration camps are reminiscent of. it's chilling, and we cannot look away. every day, we see more and more how little russia respect human rights. and that is why i announced yesterday that the united states in coordination with ukraine and
many other u.n. member states will seek russia's suspension from the u.n. human rights council. given the growing mountain of evidence, russia should not have a position of authority in a body whose purpose, whose very purpose is to promote respect for human rights. not only is this the height of hypocrisy, it is dangerous. russia is using its membership on the human rights council as a platform for propaganda to suggest russia has a legitimate concern for human rights. in fact, we'll hear some of the propaganda here today, i know, and i will not dignify these lies with a response. only to say that every lie we hear from the russian representative is more evidence that they do not belong on the human rights council.
140 u.n. member states voted to condemn russia of it unprovoked war and humanitarian crisis it has unleashed upon the people of ukraine. here's my message to all of you. now is the time to match those words with action and show the world that we can work responsibly and i share president zelenskyy's view that this moment requires responsible world powers and global leaders to show some backbone and stand up to russia's dangerous and unprovoked threat against ukraine and the world. the secretary general said that confronting this threat is a security council's charge. it is. and it is also the responsibility of u.n. leaders and leaders around the world, every single member state with
the voice in the ga. no one can be a shield for russia's aggression. suspending russia from the human rights council is something we collectively have the power to do in the general assembly. our votes can make a real difference. russia's participation on the human rights council hurts the council's credibility. it undermines the entire u.n., and it is just plain wrong. let us come together to do what is right and do right by the ukrainian people. let us take this step to help them to start to rebuild their lives, and let us match the courage of president zelenskyy so we are so honored to have with us today.
president zelenskyy, i want you to know that we stand with the people of ukraine as you face down this brutal attack on your sovereignty, on your democracy, and on your freedom. thank you. >> thank you, representative of the united states for her statement and i give the floor to the representative of albania. >> hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan and brianna keilar is joining us live in lviv, ukraine. you've been listening to the u.s. ambassador to the united nations and linda thomas greenfield and her sobering address, and before that, ukraine's president zelenskyy also delivered an impassioned speech to world leaders. one day after he traveled himself to bucha, the site where ukraine said russian forces tortured and killed hundreds of civilians. the ukrainian leader accuses russia of now trying to cover up war crimes and he's calling for the harshest possible sanctions
against moscow. >> as a result of russia's actions in our country, in ukraine, the most terrible war crimes of all times, we see since the end of world war ii and they are being committed. russian troops are deliberately destroying ukrainian cities to ashes with artillery and air strikes. they are deliberately blocking, creating mass starvation and then shoot civilians on the road trying to escape the territory of hostilities, deliberately blow up shelters where civilians hide from air strikes. >> this address coming as the world has seen horrifying evidence of massacres at the hands of russian forces. zelenskyy warns of worse atrocities that have yet to be uncovered. let's talk about all of this with cnn analyst, retired major
general paul eaton and evelyn farkas, a former deputy assistant secretary of defense for russia, ukraine, and eurasia and evelyn, i wonder what you think of what zelenskyy said. he said, and i'm paraphrasing but not much, basically said if all you can offer is conversation, dissolve yourself. if you can't stop russia, you might as well dissolve the u.n. what did you think? >> well, i mean, it made me really truly sad because he has an excellent point. the united nations is sitting here doing barely anything except frankly talking. the talk is important because i will say that in 2014, after the see sure seizure of crimea, there was some talk but it stopped. it's a real weakness because russia is on the security council so they're limited in what they can do but need to work around it. i think back to bosnia where i lived after the war.
the one thing the international community got right in bosnia, they got a lot of things wrong or delayed but they were actively involved in alleviating the suffering. we need to do more. president zelenskyy is right. >> general, what did you think? we also heard the ambassador to the u.n. saying russia needs to be booted off of the human rights council. that some action does need to be taken at least. >> indeed. we need to isolate russia diplomatically, economically, and if need be, militarily. to remove russia from any council, from any membership, to put them behind their own reestablished iron curtain is a diplomatic essential task before us right now. president zelenskyy is extremely frustrated, obviously, naturally, because of the breakdown of the post-world war ii global order we helped, the
united states, helped to build through international organizations and alliances. and he's calling for a reinvig rele reinvigoration of that, as the primary victim in europe today because of russia's attack. >> i wonder, general, what else do you think militarily the u.s. can do here? we heard the white house talking about coastal defense. the new thing or sort of new thing is some of these drones and more javelins and anti-tank, anti-aircraft weapons. what else can be done? >> it would be great to see a nato naval force come in to the black sea and off the coast of the leningrad and if necessary, off the coast of vladistotok.
we need something else besides ukraine. not a military event unless we use them but prepositioning in the event that odesa is attacked and i believe an attack on odesa would be a stimulant to a massive response, logistically and perhaps militarily through navy forces from nato to open up that front and to deal with putin on the seat. >> evelyn, we now hear president biden calling this war crimes, we just heard that from the ambassador, that russia's committing war crimes. some of the nations have gone farther to say it's genocide, but more nations are using this language to criticize moscow after seeing these images from bucha in the last couple of days. i do want to listen to what secretary of state tony blinken
said this morning. >> what we've seen in bucha is not the random act of a rogue unit. it's a deliberate campaign to kill, to torture, to rape, to commit atrocities. >> and evelyn, despite this harsh language, we know it's unlikely the security council will agree to any measures to punish russia because it has veto power and its ally china has refused to criticize russia for the war. so what exactly can the u.n. do? >> i think the u.n. can investigate. we know the international criminal court is already investigating and i need to add, kate, the russians are responsible for atrocities in syria and those have been investigated in an ongoing basis, probably they need to receive also more attention now, frankly, and there are a lot of genocides and also war crimes we've ignored as an
international community, probably emboldening vladimir putin. i think the security council needs to continue to investigate and the general assembly, there are things they can do, the independent entities of the united nations can do more. i really hope that the international red cross can also do something, not just investigate the crimes but also on the humanitarian side. >> evelyn, thank you so much, evelyn farkas, paul eaton, thank you to you as well and i want to go back to kate bolduan in new york. but kate, these addresses we just heard, especially from president zelenskyy, i mean, he was just going after the u.n. and basically saying you can't just talk, they're complicit, standing by to watch this happen. >> what's happening in many more cities than just bucha.
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presidents are going to share a little private friend time at the white house, they're going to have lunch, something they do weekly when barack obama was president and joe biden was his vice president. but the main event is going to be a celebration of the bfd, you know what i'm talking about, which is the affordable care act that president obama signed in 2010, more deeply entrenched in american life as we've gone along despite all the republican efforts to kill it. very controversial law when it was passed and for a number of years after that, in a crescendo in 2017, president trump and republican congress trialed and failed by the margin of john mccain's thumbs down to repeal the law and since then, joe biden, as he became president in 2021 has only strengthened the law, added enrollment, enrollment peaked in the obamacare marketplaces at 12.7 million when barack obama was president, now 14.5 million people signed up. you've got 20 million people
added to the roles of medicaid, expanded subsidies trying to perpetuate through more legislation, running out at the end of 2022 and announce today a regulatory change that makes about 5 million americans more eligible for subsidies under obamacare than previously. called the family glitch and it's, in terms of widening access to subsidies. so there's a lot for them to celebrate. i'm sure joe biden will share some of the burdens with the president obama he's dealing with now in ukraine but the main event is obamacare and it's preservation. >> good to see you, john, thank you for laying it out, what it was like then and how much changed now and how far it has come, pretty amazing thing. cnn political commentator, van jones, an adviser for the obama white house. it's surprising to me, i have to say, this is the first time since biden's been president
that obama's back at the white house. john laid out their long relationship and what it means, but what does it mean to have him back there today? >> overturns. barack obama, one of the most beloved people on the world stage, one of the most beloved presidents in the united states. it's not, it is unusual for a president to go back. i don't think bill clinton's spent a lot of time in the obama white house, presidents are very busy but right now, americans are hurting and uncertain when it comes to the future and inflation is such a big deal. a big part of that is when it comes to medical costs. this is a huge victory that biden famously called the bfd, you can google that, can't say it on tv this time of day but celebrated because it really was, this is personal to a lot of people. i have a personal friend, tony coleman, we grew up together in
the bay area politics, activism, he started a bike shop, came down with cancer. his bike shop didn't pay him enough to get medical care, because of obamacare, he's getting top quality cancer care in oakland, california. and there's millions and millions of people to tell you the same thing. doesn't make the news every day in terms of the top headlines, but it makes a difference every day for ordinary people, obamacare. so to remind people that this is the team, the duo that got it done for ordinary people and fix it for 5 million more american families. this is the real stuff. the bread and butter stuff to make a difference for real peep a peeple and no better person to remind than barack obama. >> john teed us off, when you look at the affordable care act and the long road it traveled. barely passed. win the house majority after that and despite having control of congress and the white house with trump, never could agree
with how to throw it out or how they wanted to throw it out. what you're describing, it's woven into the fabric of the american health care system in such a way that both democrats and republicans we find touting the benefits. what does that say about this issue and what does it say having barack obama now back with joe biden which, look, it's policy and politics wrapped into one, van, and democrats are headed towards a tough midterm. >> tough midterm election. listen, you want to bring out your big guns as you get closer and closer to the midterms. you want to remind people that when democrats are in office, they face tough economic times. don't forget, this was the middle, obamacare was passed in the middle of the last economic problem inherited from the republican administration. george w. bush handed off a pretty bad economy to obama and biden. they faced it down, they fought through. people had doubts about obamacare all the way through,
and people had doubts about obamacare after it passed and here you are, this many years later and it is successful, it's working and being improved to this day. i think it reminds people in tough times, leadership matters and you do tough things, people may not understand at the time but it proves itself out over time and i think the fact we're in an economic world war right now with russia means americans have to suffer more than we should, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel when people have stood up for freedom and when americans have maybe gotten less dependent on oil, but it's a long road. you've got to remind people, these long roads pay off. again, i can tell you personal family members, personal friends who today are alive and are healthy because of obamacare. a lot of people can tell you the same story. millions of people, and we got through that economic crisis, we'll get through this one. >> great to see you, van, thank you for coming? >> glad to be here. >> we'll see the president, the former and the current together
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we continue with the breaking news at this hour. ukraine's president giving one of his most high profile speeches since the war in ukraine began. addressing the united nations security council moments ago. listen. >> translator: leadership feels like colonizers in ancient times, they need our wealth, our people. russia has already deported hundreds of thousands of our citizens to their country. they adopted more than 2,000 children. just simply conducted, those children and continue to do so. russia wants to turn ukraine into silent slaves. >> zelenskyy's speech coming as we are seeing these horrifying new images of atrocities against civilians in ukraine.
the ambassador to the united nations spoke today and publicly calling on the u.n. to punish russia. >> given the growing mountain of evidence, russia should not have a position of authority in a body whose purpose, whose very purpose is to promote respect for human rights. not only is this the height of hypocrisy, it is dangerous. >> joining me right now is ina, a member of ukraine's parliament. thank you for coming in. president zelenskyy, he also said in this really emotional passionate angry speech, understandably, that what happened in bucha and beyond is no different than terrorists like isis and he said, and here it is done by a member of the united nations security council. what's your reaction to that? >> well, i support what the president is saying and i do
believe that the president is right when he's calling for the reform of the u.n. in general but in particular, the security council. let me remind you that the main goal of the u.n. as it was created was to maintain international peace and security, and that is not being done right now because russia, they can veto any decision when they are the aggressive state and that's unacceptable but this is seen happening. we are seeing acts of genocide on ukraine's soil conducted by the security council of the organization that was called, created to ensure peace and security. that is unacceptable and we believe the organization cannot fulfill its mission, then our president with the questions, the reason for the organization. >> inna, russia is a veto power under the u.n. security council. the u.s. and others are now pushing for russia to be
expelled from the united nations human rights council. if that happens, what do you say to that? >> i would say that russia now controls vast territories in ukraine. there are many people under russian control right now and they're being subject to the same cruelty and violence we have seen in bucha. with russia from u.n. human rights council is the correct decision on a symbolic level, but that will not save thousands of people who are currently subject to russian cruelty in the ukrainian territory. i'm not sorry for being tough but similar to the president of ukraine, i have to do that because we have people who are being killed, murdered, tortured, raped right now. and removing russia from the council is not going to do the job of saving those people. so what we're asking for, let us help save those people. that is what we need right now because otherwise, in a year two now, we should learn about other
victims that could have been prevented but in order to do that, not some symbolic steps need to be taken but very decisive steps in terms of providing ukraine an army with weapons so we can continue saving our people here that needs to be done and i support the move on the symbolic level but that's not going to save lives. >> the massacre in bucha, the massacre exposed now in bucha and reports of similar atrocities seen in another town outside of kyiv, i'm wondering, president zelenskyy made very clear that it's not going to stop there. it is other places. are you hearing reports of the same thing in other towns? >> yes. unfortunately. particularly in the state of mariupol, which we have been talking about for a month now. we did know exactly the same is happening there, just on a larger scale. so it's happening.
the first report, we heard not from bucha but from the villages on the north of kyiv but the towns under russian control from fb february 24th. i have no doubt the same atrocities happen right there as we speak and i wish we could save those people and i wish there was a solution to that. the only solution to that is just weapons provided to the ukrainian army. >> inna sovsun, thank you. coming up for us, will tiger woods tee off again at the masters? we'll tell you what the golf legend just announced next. at morgan stanley, a global collective of thought leaders offers investors a broader view. ♪ we see comompanies protecting the bottom line by putting people first. we see a b bright future, still hungry for the ingenuity of those ready for the next challenge.
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for every business... and every person... to come to the table and do more incredible things. all right, breaking news also just in. tiger woods and the big announcement just saying that he intends to play in the masters this week. cnn's dianne gallagher in augusta, just came out of the press conference with tiger. what else did he say? >> reporter: kate, there was a little bit of wiggle room in the statement. he said as of right now, i feel i'm going to play, you could almost feel the collective exhale here in augusta.
there have been people ever since there were rumors he might come back to augusta to play, coming up, showing up. the crowds looked almost like saturday and sunday simply gathering around tiger while he practiced. also asked whether or not he felt he could compete. could he win the masters? tiger simply responded, i do. i want you to listen to some of his press conference just moments ago. >> as of right now, i feel like i am going to play. as of right now. >> again, those words right there is what everybody has been waiting for. he's been away from any kind of full pga play for a little over 500 days. there was that accident he was in the car accident outside of los angeles, 14 months ago in february of 2021 with just gruesome injuries to his right leg and foot he's been recovering from ever since. he was lucky to escape with his
life and leg, and in february of this year, frustrated with his recovery and never thought he'd play a full tour schedule again but kate, he was seen in december playing with his son charlie at a pro-am, again, when the rumors he was going to play here in augusta came about, people started showing up. the big questions now, it's not his game, people like fred couples said he looks amazing, hitting bombs. it's his gait and whether or not he can walk the course for multiple days. tiger said that that is going to be the biggest issue for him, looking at it, we are expecting rain which can make the ground a little bit more difficult in the coming days, kate. >> interesting. diane, thank you so much. for more on this, cnn's sports ana ana analyst christine brennan. you were at the practice round so many people talking about with tiger woods. what do you think of this announcement? >> reporter: i think it's fantastic. it's great news-wise, kate. it jazzes up a tournament that otherwise was a men's major but
otherwise kind of blah. phil mickelson in the penalty box for awful behavior with saudi arabia and then all of a sudden, tiger is here. like he said, he's going to play and that is just stunning. it was less than 14 months ago he had the terrible car accident. his leg was shattered. we thought and hopeful he could walk again and now here he is at the masters, a place that really he calls home. he's won five times here, and at 46 years old, this is a story with the nation, a story that transcends sports. this isn't just about golf, this is about a comeback for the ages and a name and a man that people know so well. grandmothers on sunday, if playing on sunday, i imagine running to their tv sets and they would do that for only one golfer, tiger woods. >> i want to play something else that tiger woods said during the press conference about his recovery. let's listen to this together. >> my recovery has been good. i've been very excited about how i've recovered each and every
day. that's been the challenge. that's why i came up here and tested out for 27 holes. >> we can't, i guess it can be easy to forget for a lot of people just how horrific the injuries were that he sustained in that car accident. his leg was shattered. i don't think anyone would have ever faulted woods for retiring from the sport after that or even before then. i think people underappreciate it and you said though, he looks really good in practice. >> he did. i was in that press conference and he said that. he was lying in bed for three straight mons, think about that, three months, kate. he never pictured this day. it would have been a distant dream for him. and yet he's so competitive, the fact he's here to win, i don't think he's going to win but never, ever count him out. but you're right. the leg was shattered. they were talking about potentially amputating his leg,
he might have lost the right leg. instead, he's walking up the hills of augusta with that leg, of course, and playing the game. said, by the way, his golf game itself is fine. it's the stamina and the hills of augusta. when you watch it on tv, you don't see the hills. it's a really hilly golf course and that's the difficult test for him. can he walk those hills on thursday and friday, if he makes the cut, saturday and sunday and the recovery, the hours of recovery that he's going to have after he plays every round. >> you've said, and i always, tiger woods needs golf but golf really needs tiger woods. what does it mean to the sport if he's back? >> reporter: it means everything. you know, this is a niche sport. it's a very popular sport. but not a lot of, i mean, it's not soccer, it's not baseball. >> you know him by first name. he's reached that status. >> reporter: here we are talking
about him, right, on your show. and it's also an escape, a breath of fresh air from all the horrendous news and the tragedies and the horror of ukraine and everything else and tiger gives us that respite. you can watch him and say, all right, that's inspiring, that's interesting and this is extra inspiring. this is inspiring times 100. he's 46 years old. he's not the kid who won here at 21, 25 years ago and is the 25th anniversary of when he charged into everyone's lives and winning that first masters in obviously, he's a person of color in a really white sport, a black man and breaking barriers and there's so much to him and everyone's grown up with him and watched him forever and he's grown up with us and golf needs him more than he needs golf at this point. >> great to see you. thank you. >> you too, kate, thank you. thank you very much. >> thank you. coming up for us we are just now learning ivanka trump is meeting today with the house committee investigating the
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developing right now, sources tell cnn ivanka trump will meet today with the house select committee investigating the capitol insurrection. the committee sent a letter back in january to ivanka, the former president's daughter and senior white house adviser in it requesting her voluntary cooperation in the investigate. cnn's whitney wild has more on this now, joining us live.
whitney, what are you learning? >> we're learning it's a voluntary interview. after coming in a few days after her husband testified for six hours it raises a lot of questions how substantive her interview could possibly be. apparent ly jared kushner's testimony, again, why she's so important, again, she is the daughter of former president trump. she's a former white house senior adviser. she's meeting today virtually, that's according to two sources telling cnn about this highly anticipated interview. in addition to being one of the president's closest advisers, ivanka trump had an unique perch from which she saw the events of january 6. she was with her father most of the day, she was in the oval office for key meetings. the committee also heard from other white house officials who testified that ivanka trump was in the room between this pivotal
phone call between her father and vice president mike pence. itself, kate, an 11-page interview asking for general keith kellogg's testimony, according to the committee, after that letter, after a call of former president trump and then vice president mike pence ended, ivanka trump turned to kellogg and said mike pence is a good man. that was after a lot of pressure from the former president to get mike pence to overturn the election from his perch at the senate, overseeing the final -- the final setting of the electoral count vote. >> another important day for that committee and/or investigation. whitney, thank you. before we go, a reminder, you can join me on my cnn plus show, 5 things. always on demand. sign up at cnn plus.com. thanks for being here, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. cnn'n's coverage on the war in
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