tv CNN Newsroom With Alisyn Camerota and Victor Blackwell CNN April 7, 2022 12:00pm-1:00pm PDT
they've been handed over thousands of documents from the trump white house including those call records which we broke the story about there being huge call log gaps during that period of time, and now just today, victor and alisyn, on a separate note we're learning the committee is still interested in actually talking to donald trump himself. this comes after the former president gave an inview to "the washington post" yesterday where he said that it is possible that he would talk to the committee but it would depend on what the request was. well, i talked to chairman bennie thompson about it. he said the committee will discuss whether they bring trump before them. the key, victor and alisyn, if they do it, it will be a voluntary request. they don't have plans right now to issue a subpoena to donald trump. >> ryan nobles on capitol hill, thank you. it is the top of the hour here on cnn "newsroom." i'm victor blackwell. >> and i'm alisyn camerota.
systemic violations of human rights against russia. the objection is the first of its kind in more than a decade. it's in response to the russian military's wanton mass killing in bucha, ukraine. as the world further isolates russia vladimir putin's military continues to wage war especially in the east fighting on the ground is escalating in the battle for the donetsk and luhansk regions. america's top general, mark milley, said today ukrainians are in for a, quote, long slog ahead. adding all of ukraine remains a combat zone. the scale of russia's operation will remind people of world war ii. >> the battle for donbas will remind you of second world war with large populations, maneuvers, involvement of thousands of tanks, armored
vehicles, artillery. this will not be local in regards to russia's preparation. >> new images show the devastation the russians left behind in a suburb of kyiv and like bucha bodies are scattered on the streets. dead civilians show signs of torture and the actual killing of one couple in kyiv. this video we're about to show you disturbing. there's drone footage and it shows the husband getting out of the car, you see there hands up and two seconds later is killed. their 6-year-old son was in the car when this happened. we're told the russians took the boy and a family friend but later released them. let's go now to cnn's ed lavandera in the southern port city of odesa. new satellite images show the trenches the russians dug in
exclusion zone around chernobyl. what do we know about this and the troops' exposure to radiation? >> reporter: this is really a stunning development. this is an area around the chernobyl nuclear power plant known as the red forest, an area so toxic that even people who work at the chernobyl power plant aren't even allowed to go into this area, and the ukrainian officials now say that they have drone footage of russian soldiers that have dug tren nchs that very dirt and the likelihood of the soldiers and the heavy armor that was going through that area is very likely to have been highly contaminated with this radioactive waste. so the repercussions of this are incredibly significant for those soldiers that were in that area. we don't have any details as to, you know, if there's been any
kind of exposure or effects of the exposure, i should say. that isn't quite clear yet. given everything the ukrainians are saying right now, the likelihood of that is very serious and very likely. >> ed, tell us what's happening in bucha. of course we've all seen the hideous images of the aftermath there, but i understand there's a curfew today. who is still in bucha? why is there a curfew today? >> reporter: officials are saying there are two reasons. the first one is they are concerned about looting in the area. that has been a significant problem so is one of the reasons it's happening. to add to the misery everyone is working with now there's a high level of concern for lapped mines in that area, in that region. officials were saying today about 1,500 land mines were discovered just yesterday so
this is a very dangerous situation that people there who are part of the recovery process, part of documenting the possible war crimes are having to deal with and why they are urging people and wan people to stay away from this because there are efforts to basically demine the area. that's going to take some time. it is a dangerous situation for people, especially civilians, trying to walk around in that region. >> thank you, ed, for explaining that and reporting. let's bring in jake tapper. he joins us from the western city of lviv. officials in the u.s. and ukraine are predicting the fighting in eastern ukraine will be a long slog, it will be brutal, and a large number of evacuation corridors are open to try to get civilians away from the fighting, as i'm sure you saw cnn's ivan watson rode on one of the evacuation trains traveling to the east to lviv where you are. you told us how many refugees are already there.
can the city absorb all of these people? >> reporter: i think there's really no choice. there have been any number of businesses or educational establishments and other places that are taking in refugee -- i guess they're not refugees, but taking in displaced persons. some of them are on their way to becoming refugees by leaving the country. others are planning on just staying in ukraine in this somewhat safer part of the country for the time being until they can go home. they will continue to need the help of the west, the generosity of ngos and various charities. we visited this internally displaced person area today at a local university and, you know,
they need food, they need toys, they need clothing, they need everything. we met a woman and her daughter who left their homes in kyiv and had a choice of either taking their dogs or taking a bag, and they opted for the dogs. that does, of course, mean they don't have any clothing or supplies. so yes is the short answer but with help is the longer one. >> just having to choose whatever they can carry makes difficult choices there. let me ask you about the talks that are continuing between russia and ukraine. russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov says ukraine is changing its demands. what is he saying? >> reporter: first of all, let me just give a little predicate to who sergey lavrov is. he's the foreign minister and he's a liar. he's been talking, he said before the invasion, that ukraine was not going to be invaded until horrific scenes in bucha were show to the world,
that it was hysteria, the west trying to sabotage talks. today he's objecting to the idea zelenskyy and the ukrainians have put forward the idea they want to talk about the status of crimea which the russians seized in 2014, and they want to be able to have military drills and exercises with other countries without having to get russia's permission, and russia objects to that as well. all of this is kind of theater in the sense if the russians want to end the war, they can stop slaughtering innocent civilians here and they can withdraw their troops. they invaded a sovereign country. that is technically what mr. lavrov is objecting to. >> so, jake, there was this regional leader in luhansk in eastern ukraine who said all the hospitals in that city have been destroyed. we know you visited a hospital with patients who have had to travel for treatment. so tell us what you saw. >> reporter: it's just
devastating and we'll be bringing this piece to our viewers in the 5:00 eastern hour today on "the lead." people don't have hospitals in much of the country because as the russians did in syria, they are targeting hospitals here in ukraine. they are bombing hospitals and medical centers, so we went to a hospital in the western part of ukraine where people have been brought from all over the country, and we met a number of the civilian victims of putin's war. individuals who are decidedly civilians. decidedly posed no threat. you're seeing right now shrapnel in the hand of an anesthesiologist we met who is, i believe, from the luhansk region. we met a couple women, one of the women that we met who has been in a hospital bed for about a month. she may never walk again. she was a victim of a bombing, a russian bombing on her
apartment, and another thing to think about is the degree -- that's her wound right there you see. another thing to think about the degree to which that a war is not just about the victims killed or injured by bullets or missiles, it's also the conditions that a war creates, in other words disease and starvation and panic and chaos, and we met another woman who was in a horrible car accident trying to flee her part of the country. and we'll bring that to you in the 5:00 hour. "the lead," of course, starts at 4:00. >> looking forward to it. jake tapper will have more reporting from ukraine on "the lead with jake tapper" next hour, 4:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. former u.s. a.mbassador to ukraine william taylor joins us, the vice president at the u.s. institute of peace. mr. ambassador, welcome back. i want to start here with what we're learning about the russian reaction to this u.n. human
rights council vote. there were threats suggesting there would be consequences. a note shared with cnn, just one sentence, it's worth mentioning not only support for such an initiative but also an equidistant position in the vote, abstention or nonparticipation, will be considered as an unfriendly gesture handing out threats. and we know that in india where foreign minister lavrov was with modi abstained from the vote. what do you think about what we're reading from russia's reaction? >> so, victor, whatever the russians say, let's be clear about unfriendly acts. the russian invasion of ukraine, which is the reason they're being kicked out of these organizations at the u.n., that's their act. voting for russians to be kicked out makes so much sense.
it's crazy to have a nation that is perpetrating the human rights violations that it is perpetrating in ukraine, the atrocities, the war crimes, in ukraine to have that nation in the human rights council, makes no sense. it's perfectly reasonable. it makes all kinds of sense to vote them out. >> well, mr. ambassador, on that point the ukrainian foreign minister said today they continue to negotiate with russia to, quote, prevent more buchas. but russia doesn't even acknowledge bucha. it doesn't even tell the truth that their troops are behind the killing of civilians. they're lying. they're claiming that bucha staged this themselves. how do you even negotiate with that mind-set? >> alisyn, that's the right question and it's a tribute to the ukrainians that they are continuing to have these conversations with that kind of people that deny it, but the negotiations that the ukrainians are engaged in are serious. the negotiations on the other
side that the russians, not serious. as we heard about lavrov's comments today about these changes in the ukrainian position, the ukrainians are trying to find a way to stop this war, in the first instance a ceasefire, in the second a withdrawal of russian troops, but that's only going to be serious, alisyn, those negotiations are only going to be serious if president putin, not the negotiators having the conversation with ukrainians, but only if president putin realizes he's not going to succeed on the battlefield. he's probably figured out that he's not going to succeed in taking kyiv. he's now moving -- he's giving up on trying to take kyiv, and he's moving around to the east as we know. when he concludes that he's not going to win on the battlefield, his soldiers are not doing well and the ukrainian military is doing very well, then he'll be ready to sit down, he will then go to the negotiating table. at that point the ukrainian proposals will be relevant. >> ambassador william taylor,
thank you very much for your expertise and sharing it. so there was this historic moment on capitol hill. it was just moments ago. judge ketanji brown jackson was confirmed by the senate to serve on the supreme court. she will be the first black woman to ever sit on that bench. and new york's attorney general took a formal step to hold former president donald trump in contempt of court. we have details on that ahead. ♪ ♪ do your eyes bother you? because after all these emails, my eyes feel like a combo of stressed, dry and sandpaper. strypaper? why do we all put up with this? when there's biotrue hydration boost eye drops. biotrue uses naturally inspired ingredients like an electrolyte, antioxidant, even your tears' own moisturizer. and no preservatives. these ingredients are true to your eyes' biology. see? bio.true. we need to reduce plastic waste in the environment. that's why at america's beverage companies, our bottles are made to be re-made.
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and the nos are 47. this nomination is confirmed. >> you hear the cheers from democrats. judge jackson will replace retiring justice stephen breyer. she says that her journey to this moment began by seeing her father, a man raised in the jim crow south, study his own law books. senator alex padilla of california serves on the senate judiciary committee. thank you for being with me. we just got some sound in from vice president harris who presided over today's vote, and i want to you hear what she said about this moment. >> i think it makes a very important statement about who we aspire to be, who we are, who we believe ourselves to be. it's a statement about on our highest court in the land we want to make sure there's going to be full representation and the finest and brightest and the
best, and that's what happened today. i'm very proud. >> your predecessor in that seat this is your first vote for supreme court nominee. what did you feel today? >> victor, good to be with you today. today is a day of celebration. tremendous news not just for, now justice jackson, but for america and for our history. just as we say in elections that our democracy works best when as many american voices and perspectives are included and represented so it is in the judiciary branch of our government including the highest court in the land and now that justice jackson will be there, we are closer to having that more perfect nation and because of not just the tremendous qualifications and credentials but the much-needed perspective and life experience that she adds. >> what did you make of the
proceedings today, the vote held open for senator paul who rushed in in casual clothes to cast a vote, senator graham wasn't wearing a tie, reportedly, so had to vote from the cloakroom. while democrats were cheering, republicans silently filing out quickly. what did you make of that? >> yeah, as senator booker, i and other members of the judiciary committee, said at the end of the confirmation hearings a couple weeks ago, we're not going to let anyone steal our joy because this is a moment that should be celebrated. the nomination of now justice jackson was historic. the confirmation hearings, look, i'm glad most members of the committee, all the democrats for sure and even some republicans, came to the committee with appropriate, thoughtful questions about judicial philosophy and the law. sadly some members came in with baseless attacks seeking to undermine a more than qualified
nominee and the antics we saw today from senators paul rand, were disrespectful to the process, to justice jackson, and disrespectful to the american people. that notwithstanding, we will not let anyone steal our joy. i will also add this, victor, as this confirmation is done, people are naturally looking ahead. we don't know when the next vacancy on the supreme court will be or what the next confirmation process will look like. but to me it's a remind eaer ofe stakes of these midterm elections. when senator graham says someone like justice jackson would never have gotten a hearing in judiciary committee or will not if republicans resume the majority, that's telling, right? the role of the judiciary committee is to deem the qualif qualifications not to be biased. it's senator graham and republicans that are further politicizing the process of supreme court nominations and
confirmations, and the voters will have a say into whether or not to allow that this fall. >> we heard something similar from mitch mcconnell that he won't talk about the strategy if republicans get control of the senate and there's a nominee from the white house in '23 or '24. let me ask you about another topic, title 42, the public health order that the white house determined will be lifted in about seven weeks used to, thus far, keep 1.7 million migrants out of the u.s. who are seeking asylum from the southern border mostly. there are at least half a dozen democrats who believe that the president -- or trying to block the president's lifting of that order until at least the public health emergency is lifted or there is a plan to stop the expected surge of migration across the border. why not wait until that point? >> a couple things, victor. number one, let's all remember what title 42 is. title 42 is not immigration
policy. and i think we all are reminded of that. it is long pastime to modernize immigration laws. it's a public health order because of the covid-19 pandemic and we see what's going on across the country. restrictions are coming down, vaccines are up, case counts are declining. we're losing our masks. if the justifications are no longer there, then i think what the president is seek to go do is a power play, and that being said, what we do want to insist on is a safe, orderly and humane process when it comes to immigration laws and immigration processing. it is not illegal. it is absolutely lawful for someone fleeing persecution, fleeing violence, fleeing natural disasters to come to the united states seeking asylum. we need to have a process in place to consider those requests. and so those are the questions that we are asking. i'm also a member of the homeland security committee asking questions of secretary
majyojyorkas mayorkas. >> we have heard from some border state democrats who believe that there should be some caution placed to make sure there isn't a surge across the border once that's lifted in may. senator alex padilla, thank you, sir. >> thank you. so today new york's top law enforcement official is urging a state judge to hold former president donald trump in civil contempt. this is a new filing and attorney general latisha james accuses trump of failing to comply with a subpoena for documents in her civil investigation into his businesses. james is requesting the court hold trump in contempt and impose a $10,000 fine a day until he complies. >> an exclusive interview with the manhattan district attorney who is overseeing the criminal side of the investigation into trump's businesses. what do we know? what have you learned in this
conversation? >> i sat down with the d.a., alvin bragg, and he wanted to send a message this investigation into the former president and his business is ongoing, it's active. he says they're interviewing witnesses. they're reviewing new evidence. of course he makes this very unusual statement and grants us this interview because there had been a lot of speculation that the investigation had ended after two prominent attorneys who were working in the office had resigned. one of them in a resignation letter said he believed trump was guilty of numerous crimes and bragg was wrong not to authorize an indictment of the former president in february. that's when those two resigned. i asked bragg about that today. here's what he said. >> it happens that prosecutors can disagree on next steps and, like i said, i'm not going to presume to speak for anyone else. for me i thought there were more avenues, more work to be done, more things we could follow up on, and that's what our team is in place doing each and every day. >> i just want to get your
reaction to a couple of things said in the resignation letter. he said the team that has been investigating mr. trump harbors no doubt whether he committed crimes. he did. do you agree with that statement? >> i'm not going to get into sort of a line item. his letter speaks for itself. what i can say is that's his opinion. as the district attorney for manhattan, the one who has to make the charging decision, i've decided to look at additional avenues. and doing that side by side with the team of career prosecutors, folks who have been steeped in state law practice, people who worked in the manhattan district attorney's office, in some cases for decades. >> do you think that you can get new evidence that would make you comfortable to bring charges? >> well, we are every day following up on new evidence we've secured. investigations are not linear, so we are following the leads in front of us and that's what we're doing.
we're doing that right now. that's what we're saying in our statement today, the investigation is very much ongoing. obviously mr. pomerantz has his opinion. this is what we're actively doing each and every day. >> you're still interviewing witnesses? >> we are, as our statement today says, we are interviewing witnesses, reviewing documents, following up on evidence that has not previously been analyzed and looked at or secured by the office. >> now bragg would not put a time line on this investigation, how long he would continue, but he did say the public will know either through an indictment or his office will issue a statement explaining their decision. >> great to get that interview, kara. thank you for sharing that. let's talk about this. tiger woods is back at the masters. we're going to tell you how he's doing after that horrible accident. ♪
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and, remember, it's just been a year since he was involved in that extremely serious car accident. >> tiger says the big challenge for him here is walking so much. the course is a full 18 holes, nearly six miles. joining us now is the managing editor at "golf week" and former golf editor, it was only 14 months ago he was in that horrible car accident. he almost lost his right leg. he didn't know, doctors i don't think knew if he would walk again. how is he looking today? how is he doing? >> it's an incredible story. i was on this station 14 months ago, 408 days ago, saying i don't think there's a chance tiger woods walks again, and here he is less than 14 months later challenging in the toughest golf tournament in the world with the best players in the world and, by the way, let's add another component to this, playing a different game than the one tiger woods played that we all knew back when he was winning major championships
consistently. in his group with joaquin niemann he has been the trailing player in most of the fairways, meaning he isn't outdriving his opponents like in the past, sometimes with louis oosthizen they've been neck and neck. playing a completely different game and, by the way, he's in the mix. it's absolutely incredible. i've been sitting with christine brennan, a cnn contributor, and she travels the world, goes to the olympics and these other events. she keeps turning and saying to me, i can't believe what i'm watching, and that's kind of the sentiment from everyone here. >> how do we explain it? i mean, he had multiple fractures to his tibia, his fibula, as we know he's had previous back surgeries. how is he doing this? >> yeah, it's a great question. could anyone else do this? i don't think so or at least i don't think many of us think so. i will tell you this, tiger
woods is the hardest worker on the pga tour and has been since the day that he stepped in the building, so he does it through hard work. he's one of those guys who is just a constant -- not just a practice hound but someone who is constantly working on his physique. to look at him he looks as good as ever. there's no slump, no slouch, nothing about him that suggests a year and a half -- >> we froze, tim. >> -- i think that's the case here but it really is an absolutely incredible story. >> tim, we lost you for one second, so if you could just put a final point on is this just his natural determines? does he have a high pain threshold? is this perseverance? what's the larger story here? >> yeah, tiger is just the hardest worker in the game and maybe in all of pro sports that is what it comes down to and, to
be honest with you, it's funny to see how other players in the field who would be surprised by this with anyone else aren't surprised by tiger woods. we just don't know what this guy can pull off. he keeps amazing us. it's often just through his hard work. obviously he has unbelievable talent but his hard work is the determining factor. >> tim schmitt, great to talk to you. we'll be watching. ukraine is claiming that russia is attempting to now hide evidence of their brutal war crimes alleging that russia is using portable creimatorium to hide the bodies of those killed in mariupol. >> reaction from the city deputy next.
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a ukrainian military commander says russia is trying to wipe mariupol off the face of the earth. they call what's happening there a catastrophe. joining me is city council deputy. thank you for being with me. the pictures that we see out of mariupol and the reports are awful. to consider 90% of the buildings damaged, still maybe more than 100,000 people there, is there any aid getting in? are buses being able to get in to help people get out? >> no. russia still blocks all the government to get convoys to mariupol. there are no chances for any buses or humanitarian aid from the ukrainian side to mariupol.
rus russians, only them getting help to the citizens. to get some help but they show that russians are good people and they help the mariupol citizens. they totally destroyed our city. we don't have any problems with anything. it was prosperous city. and now they show the people cynical and for me looking to my lovely city is totally destroyed. it's terrible. we have now about 5,000 homeless people when they totally destroyed mariupol. >> for all that we're seeing and the atrocities in that city there is a chance the world may never know the full scope because -- the deputy there of
the mariupol city council -- you have released a statement saying the russians are using these portable crematoria to burn the bodies of those killed. what more can you tell me about those crematoria and what's happening across the city? >> today anyone can say for sure what russians do on this territory because they totally disconnect mariupol from the ukraine. they specifically destroyed cell phone towers and they tried to install now their phone provider so there's no connection with the city at all and from the people who can flee out for the last weeks we know that every day situation is worse. there are no civil rights for citizens left. russians can do all they want
with them. they start filtration camp and they check anyone from young to old who want to go out from the city to decide ukraine or the russians and they check for activism or for military. and the people who can -- they can kill in a moment or take to the prison without any judgment or without any rules of law. >> it's interesting that you say that you can't even get the information out because the russians are controlling the technical communication into and out of mariupol. let me ask you about what we heard from the ukrainian foreign minister today who says that the talks are continuing between the ukrainians and russians to
hopefully prevent the next bucha or another bucha. of course where we saw people who had been killed with their hands tied behind their back. we're getting more video out of that city. do you think that it's possible to negotiate something like that, to convince the russians not to commit those types of atrocities when they're not admitting they've done it at all in the first place? >> i think without adequate answer russians continue to move forward. mariupol, it's not their stop place. they want to go further to take all the region of the donetsk and luhansk region and now our government tries to take the people from these places to get them to another more safely position. to understand russians are
taking all their forces to this area and i think it will be final battle with ukraine and with russia. so we need all the help our allies can get us in the next days, because if we don't get this help it will be -- we can't win this war. and if we don't win this war, they will go even further. >> we know that the west says, listen, this could be a protracted fight, that this war could go on for months, maybe even years. maksym borodin, thank you. ukraine's foreign minister warning the fight for the donetsk region of ukraine will look like world war ii. we have the latest from the region just ahead. no, no, no. they're both invested... in green energy. and also each other. digital tools so impreressive, you u just can't stop. what would youou like the power to do?
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that's according to a spokesperson for the hospital where the victims are being treated. now, a police commander says it's not clear right now is more than one shooter was involved. there is now a search to find the suspect or suspects involves. just moments ago the mayor of tel aviv went on israeli television and told people to stay in their homes. well, chef, writer, traveler, friend, anthony bourdain played a special role for millions of people around the world. now as cnn prepares to bring you the new film "roadrunner" a film about anthony bourdain, some of his closest family and friends share their favorite memories of tony. here's journalist jason rozian who played a critical role in securing his freedom after he was arrested in iran. >> when he came to iran, i had been living and working there for five years.
and just to be invited to sit down and do a segment with tony on parts unknown is a huge deal, everybody knew that. when the food came out, it was covered in saran wrap and cellophane and it was not a memorable meal because of the food. it was really a memorable meal because of the conversation. >> four individuals were arrested here. >> we were arrested just a few weeks after we taped that segment. and i knew that appearing on "parts unknown" would have a dramatic effect. that did more to raise awareness about our case than anything else. >> jason's brother joins me. >> he wrote op-eds, he talked about me publicly. when we got out, he continued to be a champion for us. we walked away from that knowing that tony was somebody that had our backs.
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