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remain trapped inside that steel plant while russian forces bombard the area. elsewhere in mariupol, a new investigation by the associated press finds evidence that 600 civilians were killed in that russian attack on the theater where civilians had been sheltering. that is much higher than earlier estimates. painted on the ground outside the building, of course, as you might remember, in giant russian letters was the word "children" that was written there twice. the bombs came anyway. senior national correspondent sara sidner joins us live from kyiv. today, the mayor of mariupol said contact has been lost with the ukrainian forces fighting from inside the azovstal steel plant. tell us what we know. >> look, russia continues to bombard the place. we are hearing from a ukrainian commander that indeed, the soldiers, ukrainian soldiers inside of that plant say the russian soldiers have made it inside the plant and there are bloody battles that are occurring. this is as you just mentioned,
the mayor says there are still hundreds of people that are sheltering inside of the dark, dank maze of the underground bunkers that are below that azovstal steel plant. they're still there including dozens of children. still, ukraine's foreign minister says despite russia's claim that it now has complete control of mariupol, the ukrainian soldiers, according to the foreign minister, are still holding their ground. holding their space in and around that steel plant. the russians did ramp up their attacks after more than 100 people actually were able to be taken from that plant after months in these very, very difficult conditions. mothers and children, older folks who have been hiding there for such a long time in complete darkness. we're starting to hear some of the stories of what it was like to be in there as families were terrified for their lives, hearing the strikes hitting again and again over their
heads. jake. >> and the ukrainian military says russian forces are largely stalled in eastern ukraine. what might that mean for the people in those regions? >> look, it will give them a break from bombardments, if you will. i think there are a lot of people who, you know, they can't go about doing their daily routines, of course. and there are places where water is very scarce because of a broken pipeline. so there are a lot of issues going on, not just with this war but with regular everyday life. you can imagine, though, you don't know if it's because the ukrainians are pushing them back or if the russians are regrouping. that's something you can't tell. but certainly, there's been fierce fighting and the ukrainians have continually surprised the world with how well they have been able to repel some of these russian advances into pushing them back a bit. but yeah, i mean, daily life interrupted, and when there's a break from that, people try to
come out and do something that is a little bit normal. jake. >> sara sidner reporting live from kyiv. thank you. >> earlier this week, we reported on the fate of a small village just north of kyiv, which was heavily damaged in the battle for the capital. matt rivers spoke to ukrainian soldiers who not only survived the bloody firefight but helped turn the tide in ukraine's favor. here is part two of that report. >> outgoing fire from a frozen fox hole. not far from the flaming pieces of an exploding armored vehicle. as the quiet still of the nighttime bunker is shattered by what the soldier says was a direct hit right nearby. this is what happened in the tiny town of moshun, just northwest of ukraine's capital city. it was here as much as anywhere else that the battle of kyiv was won. by early march, russian forces had flooded south, ukraine's
seat of power in its sights. they had arrived just west of moshun, occupying that entire area. the irpin river, the only thing between them and the town where ukraine would make its stand. >> is it strange to just walk through this area now, you know, when it's safe? he says what's strange was being here when all hell broke loose. three ukrainian soldiers who fought here took us around moshun before the ground assault, relentless artillery rained down. there was little they could do but wait it out. just listen to this video taken by a soldier. >> they dug this trench here just across the river from russian positions. of course, to take cover from things like this. so this would be spent ordinance, a rocket fired from a russian attack helicopter here on the ukrainian position. thinking they would soften the town, the russians decided it
was time to strike. with this bridge destroyed, they built a pontoon bridge here and started sending special forces troops across the river. across the river, the ukrainians waited. some seen here ready to fight back. street battles raged. homes were shredded. houses now with so many bullet holes like freckles on a face. the russians, some seen here, actually took part of the town. but that success would be short lived. because the woods were up next. moshun is surrounded by dense pine forest, the perfect area for ukraine to stop an advance. video shows ukrainian troops lined up in neatly dug positions, and russian troops would quickly come under heavy fire. video shows the results, multiple dead russian soldiers in the snow. that body was found right there, and there were several other russian soldiers that were killed right in this area, including this soldier whose
body armor is still left behind. this was not artillery unit versus artillery unit. here in these woods in this town, it was infantry versus in in in infantry. close proximity fighting. >> ukrainian soldiers race toward an unseen enemy. carrying between them what is likely the weapon that could do something like this. ukrainian drones capture the destruction of russian armor. sitting ducks on the lone road through the trees. and here on the ground, you can still see the remnants of two destroyed armored personnel carriers. the body parts of the soldiers that were inside still litter this area. ukrainian forces say some 500 russian soldiers and 40 armored vehicles made their way into this part of the forest, and if they were able to continue and get through, it could have changed the tide of the entire war. moshun sits only three miles from kyiv's city limits and
roughly 15 from the city center. ukrainian troops tell us had the russians broke through, the thousands of russian troops just across the river would have made an all-out push into kyiv. but a fierce ukrainian counterattack turned the battle around quickly, solars going house to house, retaking the town, even destroying the pontoon bruj rbridge russia had used to bring troops across. also stripping what they could from the better supplied russian soldiers. he says they suffered heavy losses here. even though they dominated us in aircraft and drones and 10 to 1 in artillery. for these three soldiers, the victory in the battle of kyiv is something the world should have seen coming. should the rest of the world have been surprised? our army turned out to be one of the best in the world, and nobody was more surprised than the russians, he said. adding one more thing in
english. [ bleep ]. >> just one day after speaking to those soldiers, we found out that all three of them shipped out to join the fighting in the east. clear reminder that this war goes on. jake. >> matt rivers in ukraine, thank you so much. >> joining us now live to discuss, arula jebreal, a foreign policy expert, and she recently testified to the european parliament on the threat of russian propaganda. she's due to testify again on monday. good to see you again. the eu commission says it will ban three russian state broadcasters from european airwaves because of the propaganda, the lies they tell. how big is the european audience for russian propaganda these days? >> it's huge, jake. they can ban all the networks but what we're seeing that what you're hearing on russian state television, there are basically, putin is exporting his dictatorship with weapons, with bombs, and propaganda. you're seeing all kind of
propaganda, russian propagandists, including lavrov, the foreign minister, speaking directly to european audience on primetime every night, every day, and then their message is amplified on social media. and they're pushing the narrative that this is a war against nazis. they're calling president zelenskyy, basically, he said last week that zelenskyy jewishness is not an impediment of him being a nazi. he's even claiming that most jews are the worst anti-semites. this is on national television, on a network that is owned by putin puppet berlusconi, who was riddled with scandals, who did all kinds of business deals with putin. his main network that's followed by millions of people is putting that kind of propaganda and other networks are inviting every night those russian propagandists. i think it's time for the european union to start taking this seriously, because for the first time since the beginning of the war, we're seeing millions of italians who on
social media write that we don't want to be slaves of nato. we don't want to fight an american war. we don't want to alienate russia. so they're exploiting their fear and prejudice to sabotage democracy and to sabotage nato and the effort, the renewed unity of nato. >> that's fascinating. this week, as you note, the russian foreign ministry, the foreign minister, sergey lavrov, said this insanely anti-semitic thing about adolf hitler having jewish blood. the ministry doubled down after the government of israel protested, saying that israel supports the neonazi regime in kyiv, and going so far as to say, again, it's a lie. israeli mercenaries are fighting alongside neonazi ukrainians. it seems like there might be a risk here, also, though. i mean, trying to get italy, but
then russia had decent relationship with israel before. >> they don't care at this point. all bets are off. what we're seeing, especially in italy, they know there's an audience for them, a real group of neonazis who believe in these ideals, who believe that somehow jewish lives or jews, you know, jews and ukrainians are lesser of a human being. this is how it all started. every genocide starts with words. start with a propaganda, dehumanizing the other side. you can see this writing on every museum, every holocaust museum, and it didn't start with killing. it started with words. his using italy, specifically italy, knowing that mussolini used the exact same propaganda to pass the most anti-semitic laws, and his exploiting that, the far right who putin co-opted and who is bank rolling, and by the way, the overwhelming majority of these parties of the far right are under
investigation for corruption. russian corruption. he knows that they are very popular, but also he's using the left, and this is the first time. we have never seen ganything lie this. the left and the right agree this is nato war. the idea that this is nato, this is not about ukraine. that zelenskyy is a puppet of the west, is becoming very successful. and that's, i think we need to fight back and we need to push back alternatively, we will find putin puppet in italy. >> so it's interesting that you raise that because today the former president of brazil, lula, went after ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy telling "time" magazine, i see the president of ukraine speaking on television, being applauded, getting a standing ovation. this guy is as responsible as putin for the war because in the war, there's not just one person guilty. he goes on to say even more outrageous comments about zelenskyy. is this an example of the way putin creates ties with all sorts of governments, left,
right, center around the world? >> absolutely. the left and the right, and he exploits both sides. and by the way, russia's warfare, disinformation, weaponizing information, conspiracy theory, has been part of their policy for a long time. we're waking up to it now and we're not confronting it enough. if you look at social media in italy and france and germany, where the far right is at 42%, which means in one year when they vote for the european parliament or for italy, they might actually win and you will find yourself, you know, with zelenskyy and probably nato will find themselves in another position, so what they're doing, they're buying all kind of ads to push that kind of narrative. what lula is saying is what you will read on social media in europe. i think that's why we need to crack down on social media, because today, there are the hand maiden authoritarians. we don't know if they're
russians, ukrainians, europeans, we don't know, but they're succeeding in turning the public opinion against the sanctions and above all depicting the ukrainians as irrelevant, not human, as nazis. so playing with the feeling that they're not really worthy to defend. >> thank you so much for sharing your insights. >> coming up, donald trump just passed a big test for the midterms thanks to ohio voters. how long will his influence last? >> then, new information about this onstage attack against dave chappelle. that's ahead. because the sleep numbmber 360 smart bed is really smart. it senses your movement and automaticalllly adjusts to help keep you both comfortable all night. it's a also temperature balancing, so you stay cool. it's so smart it knows exactly how long, how well, and when you slept. sleep number takes care of the science, all you have to do is sleep. and now, save $500 on the sleep number 360 c4 smart bed, queen now only $1,299. lowest price ever! only for a limited time. to learn more, go to sleepnumber.com
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endorsement still carries considerable weight with at least a plurality of gop voters. jd vance, someone who once called trump a demagog and even privately compared him to hitler, apologized, renounced his previous positions, pursued the endorsement of the former president, got it, and last night won. as jeff zeleny reports, even the former president is relieved by last night's results. >> i have absolutely got to thank the 45th, the president of the united states, donald j. trump. >> the first big bet of the campaign season paid off for donald trump with jd vance crediting a come from behind ohio victory to his support from the former president. at his celebration last night in cincinnati, fans borrowed a page from the trump playbook, blasting the media and his critics. >> they wanted a write a story that this campaign would be the death of donald trump's america first agenda. ladies and gentlemen, it ain't the death of the america first agenda. >> in fact, it was a clear win
for trump. with vance earning 32% of the vote in a crowded primary, to replace retiring republican senator rob portman. two-thirds of ohio gop voters did not follow trump's lead and chose other conservative candidates. trump told friends he was relieved by the outcome, cnn has learned, in a race that shows he's still king and king maker of his party. but there are more tests of trump's influence to come, including next week in west virginia. where he's taken sides in a primary pitting two republican congressmen against one another. and nebraska, where he's weighed in on a heating three-way contest for governor. a bigger test comes may 17th in a pair of senate races. one in north carolina, and another in pennsylvania. where trump backed mehmet oz faces david mccormick in one of the most closely watched primaries, and may 24th in georgia, a state trump has been consumed with since he narrowly lost there in 2020. ever since, he's taken aim at
governor brian kemp and persuaded former senator david perdue to mount a challenge against him. the endorsements have become the sound track of republican campaigns. >> an unrelenting champion. >> as republicans fight to gain control of the house and senate in november, the power of the maga movement is alive and well in the midterm elections. trump is not on the ballot, but at the center of it all, with vance now providing a road map other republicans are clamoring to follow. >> we have to fight that battle with a unified republican party. >> and jake, as we know well by now, the former president keeps close tally on his win/loss record in terms of endorsing. so certainly, last night was a win in ohio. a big win. without that endorsement, jd vance will be the first to tell you he would not have won that primary. there are s'more complicated races to come, but there's no doubt it's still the former president's party. he controls the base. the question, what does that mean for the general election?
we have six months to figure that out. >> jeff zeleny, thanks so much. kristen, let me start with you. ohio was the first major test of trump's influence. have been some other races since he lest office, and he has a more mixed record. but major test in the 2022 midterms he passed. there's still more than a half dozen races coming up with trump endorsed candidates in nebraska, in north carolina, in pennsylvania, in idaho and georgia. do you think all of them are going to be as successful as jd vance? >> i don't know that all of them will be. certainly, this is good news for president trump if he wanted to disrupt this narrative that maybe his endorsements don't mean much, jd vance really does have to thank donald trump for elevating him in that primary. but it doesn't mean that dr. oz is going to have an easy path to victory in pennsylvania. it doesn't mean brian kemp is suddenly in massive jeopardy in georgia. there are a lot of places where the president's influence remains more limited. and frankly, you can look at
this glass half full and say he clearly got vance to the front in that pack, but the other way to look at it is almost 7 in 10 ohio republican primary voters did not listen to donald trump's endorsement. so there's a way you can spin this to both say trump has a lot of influence and say his influence is limited. >> he's good for 33% of the vote in a state in which he did very well. in ohio. so in a crowded field, of course, that makes a large difference. but what will it be in a governor's race, for example? you mentioned kemp versus perdue, his candidate, perdue, is not doing too well in the polls right now. i think it's glass half full, half empty. as you point out, you can analyze it any way you want. >> he's going to face tim ryan, in the senate race in ohio. jd vance says tim ryan is trying to be a trump democrat. here's what ryan had to say about that. take a listen. >> i'm an american. look, i agreed with donald trump
on china, on a few other issues. but you know, and i have disagreed with democrats on stuff. you know, obviously, ran against nancy pelosi, got in fights with bernie sanders, disagreed with obama on tpp. i think that's what the american people want. i'm representing the exhausted majority here. and the exhausted majority wants to stop the washington, d.c. food fight. they want us to start working together. >> what do you think? >> i mean, i think he's doing what he needs to do to win in a state like ohio. he's not unlike a lot of vulnerable u.s. senators, well, vulnerable candidates for u.s. senate in swing states and states that you can't go too far to the left. and states where being perceived as too aligned with nancy pelosi might not win you the votes you need. so again, i think he's, like any other candidate, doing what he says he needs to do to connect with voters. it's still going to be difficult because ohio is a state that right now is trending red. >> it's very red.
it's a very red state. but we should point out, the other senator in ohio is sherrod brown, who is one of the most progressive democrats in the senate. >> right, and that's why i think to your point, he is saying, ryan is saying what he needs to say. in order to appeal to his voters. but i think one other thing he can point out is the issue with jd vance about how we were talking about it earlier. he used to be a commentator on this network. he was very anti-trump. he talked about trump as being cultural heroin. he talked about trump as leading the white working class down a very dark path. and he is now doing that. and so i think we're at a point where tim ryan can point out the pernicious nature of people who are not just endorsed by donald trump but who have left their values in the garbage to follow this man who has been so destructive to our country and our democracy. >> i do want to switch just to talk about abortion for a second because of obviously that seismic story that politico wrote yesterday where it looks
as though the supreme court is poised to overturn roe v. wade altogether. there are a lot of democrats convinced this will be a major motivator for democratic voters, for women voepters who support abortion rights. there's at least one democrat who disagrees. let's take a listen to senator joe manchin from west virginia. >> inflation is the number one driving factor, i believe, in my state right now. it's hurting everybody. just at the pump, but at the grocery store, at the drugstore, at the pharmaceutical, everything they do. so many serious issues. >> and look, manchin is not a supporter of abortion rights, but is he wrong? >> i think we don't know yet. i don't want to be wishy-washy on this, but i think that there are democrats, i was talking to a democratic pollster today, and he said to me, look, if the democrats lean into what happened on abortion, if the democrats lean into these so-called radical republicans,
and you have heard the president talk about that a lot now. >> he talked about it today, yeah. >> then and privacy, this question of privacy, he says if the -- this doesn't happen organically. if candidates decide they're doing to lean into it, they can really take advantage of this with voters. not just suburban women, but if they don't, that's it. >> and tia, here's vice president kamala harris at an event last night for emily's list. you were there covering it. leaning into it, as gloria might say. >> those republican leaders who are trying to weaponize the use of the law against women, well, we say how dare they. how dare they tell a woman what she can do and cannot do with her own body? how dare they. how dare they try to stop her from determining her own future? >> we only have a minute left
and i want to get to all three of you. >> i want to say quickly, just because abortion may not be the number one issue that a woman might say she cares about most doesn't mean it can't drive turnout. it can't drive enthusiasm, and that's what democrats know, that's what we saw in her speech. it's not just about number one. it's about what can get people to turn out and head to the polls. >> it's personal. and we're not just going to lean. these democrats aren't going to just lean. they're tipping over on this because they know it's going to be a motivator. polls have shown, they have asked the question, if roe v. wade is in danger of being overturned are you more motivated to vote for a democrat. the answer is i think two-thirds or three-fifth or a high number, the answer is absolutely yes. this goes for all demographics, women, men, democrats, independents, latinos, blacks, aapi, all across the board. >> what do the polls say? what do you think? >> i still think inflation is number one issue, but the asymmetric way in which this
will motivate democrats more than republicans, anger and frustration is more motivational than, hey, we got what our side wanted. i could see this being asemitic in terms of who is motivated. >> perhaps for the first time ever. it usually works that people who are motivated because they support abortion rights, we have it, we're fine. >> i think about this in 2018 around kavanaugh, there was the conventional wisdom that was going to tick off a lot of voters and progressives were going to benefit from it. it also ticked off a lot of republicans. you saw both sides getting frustrated. i don't know that's the same dynamic in this case. >> to be continued. we'll talk more about this coming up. the issue is not going away. they still have to issue their opinion. >> coming up, they're the loved ones of americans held hostage and detained around the world. what they want from the white house. that's next. deviceses and internet. like ultra-fast, u ultra-simple wireless 5g business internet.
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safe, reliable transit. in our buried lead stories, we feel are not getting enough attention, paul whelan, jorge toledo, aaron barry, matthew heath. these are some of the names of the 55 americans held hostage or wrongfully detained in other countries. today, their loved ones protested outside the white house. kylie atwood found out what the families say they want from president biden. >> outside the white house today, a clear call for help. their loved ones are wrongfully detained abroad. and they want to meet with president biden. >> it's so important that we meet with the president. >> i call on the administration to meet with us all, to use
every tool at their disposal, and reunite our families. >> gathering to shine a spotlight on their shared struggle and to plead with the biden administration to do everything in their power to secure the release of dozens of americans. their journeys have been long, painful, and all too similar. >> president biden, you know more than anybody what it's like to lose somebody that you love. to never be able to hug them again. all the memories you could have created. like, you singularly know what that's like. and there's so many really easy decisions that just aren't being brought to your desk that could end this nightmare for us. >> alexander force's father and uncle have been wrongfully detained in venezuela for more than four years. >> we share a pattern of indecision from our administration to bring our family members home. we're running into the same road blocks. it doesn't matter if it's iran,
russia, china, venezuela, we come back from meetings in d.c. crying on planes. >> the uncle of matthew heath, wrongfully detained in venezuela as well. >> i can't begin to express to you the pain that each and every one of us feel. >> elizabeth whelan's brother, paul whelan, was detained in russia in 2018 on charges of espionage that he denies. for years, the whelan family has been publicly advocating for his release. >> it's like entering a labyrinth where you have no idea how to get out. you don't know where your loved one is. you don't know who is going to help you or hurt you along the way. >> earlier this year, wnba star brittney griner was also held in russia in what the state department now calls a wrongful detention. her arrest comes just months before trevor reed, another american who had been detained in the country, got to come home. it was the result of a prisoner swap last week. >> we hope that this is a catalyst for the president to
start making deals if necessary to bring americans home. >> trevor is now in an isolation recovery prap in a military hospital, but he wanted his father to be here today with the other families who have not yet been so luckily. the reeds believe their meeting with the president earlier this year was instrumental in getting trevor home. and the parents of austin tice, an american journalist kidnapped in syria in 2012, said meeting with biden this week gave them hope as well. >> i think progress was made just in getting to meet with the president. and you know, we were astonished at how up to date he was on austin's case and how committed he is to getting him home. >> now, today, the state department said that secretary of state tony blinken has had conversations with these families of wrongfully detained americans abroad. as recently as in the last few days. but of course, what we will continue to ask, jake, is if president biden affords the rest
of these families a meeting, because they believe that that meeting could be a game changer. >> all right, kylie atwood, thank you so much for that report. >> in our world lead now, president biden is asking congress today to provide tens of thousands of afghan refugees with a pathway to become legal permanent resident of the united states. the ask was included in the ukrainian aid request sent to congress last week. if this were to pass, eligible afghans, their spouses and children, will have to successfully complete background checks to live in the u.s., and they'll have to do so for at least a year before they can apply for a green card. today, former president george wmp bush and former first lady laura bush met with 13 recent afghan evacuees in dallas. bush says the 43rd president told the refugees we're disappointed our nation abandoned afghanistan. we want to send a message that all americans must welcome afghan refugees here as our neighbors and support them, unquote. the numbers that some doctors may find concerning when it comes to the parents of young children.
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in our health lead, what appears to be rising indifference about vaccinating youngest children against covid. a new kaiser family foundation poll finds 18% of parents intend to get their children under 5 years old vaccinated as soon as possible once it's approved. tlat% say they're going to wait and see. 11% say they'll only do it if it's required. 27% say they definitely will not get their kids vaccinated. let's discuss with public health physician dr. chris parnell. let's put the numbers upgon. what do we make of both the low number of parents who will vaccinate their kids as soon as they can, 18%, and the finding that more than a quarter of the parents surveyed, 27%, say they're not going to get their young kids vaccinated? >> hi, jake. unfortunately, i'm not surprised by that polling data. if you recall, whenever we have
a vaccine that is about to go through the eua process for anyone in the pediatric age group, parents need information. i think we need to do a better job in public health especially, our public health agencies and bodies of articulating the safety, the efficacy, and why it's important to vaccinate our kids. we have allowed the nation to go into a lackadaisical spirit, if you will, and that really is not productive if you want people to feel eager about using a prevention tool. >> let me offer you the platform right now. what do you say to a parent who says, look, this thing doesn't hit kids as harshly as it hits adults. the risk to my kid is really minuscule. what's the big deal? why do i need to get another vaccine in my kid's arm? >> i say because you can't determine whether or not your child is the person who gets exposed and has no infection or your child is a person who gets exposed and has a severe
infection. and we know that when those children do have severe infections, or have that multi-inflammatory system reaction, we have seen that among the black and brown community. so if you know you couldn't predict that severity, why not do everything in your power to keep your child as safe as possible? and finally, i would say that your child is used to getting vaccines. you get vaccines for things that have less prevalence, so this is actually a more informed and wiser choice. >> today, and for the first time since february, the cdc is predicting an increase in covid hospitalizations and deaths over the next four weeks. are we at the beginnings of a new surge? >> you know, jake, it's always hard to pin down coronavirus. but i believe it is possible. why is it possible? it's possible because we know that there is waning immunity. we know that across the six-month time period these vaccines do lose some of their effectiveness. and we know it's possible
because people really have become fatigued with the idea of using multiple prevention tools, meaning masking and high risk situations. meaning not going to an event or an occasion that might not be the best decision, and finally, just not having access to rapid testing or rapid antivirals in the manner that would hold back this infection. i hope we don't see a surge, but i do believe all of the ingredients unfortunately are there. >> doctor, thank you as always. >> we're now getting our first look at the weapon involved in the onstage attack against comedian dave chappelle. that's next.
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if our pop culture lead, an incredible sight. a suspect was taken into custody. this is once again raising concern among perform betters safety on stage. >> reporter: comedian dave chappelle attacked on stage while performing at the hollywood bowl during the netflix is a joke festival. video taken just moments after the assault shows the alleged attacker being subdued as a shocked audience looks on. cnn's rachel crane was sitting near the front row. >> out of nowhere, a gentleman jumps up from the audience and tackles dave chappelle. the thing that across my eye
immediately was that the gentleman was wearing a backpack. that's what got me scared. my mind immediately went to, this man is wearing a bomb. it felt very deliberate and it was quite scary. >> reporter: the lapped said the suspect, a weigh the-year-old man, was armed with a knife made to look like a replica handgun. he was taken to a hospital for treatment and was arrested for assault with a deadly weapon. >> it all happened so fast. i remember dave chappelle sort of stumbling back. the individual did fall to the ground and got up and continued to run off stage. >> reporter: any motive for the attack remains unknown. cnn has reach out to netflix and the hollywood bowl for comment. in a statement to cnn, a representative for chappelle said in part the comedian refuses to allow last night's incident to overshadow the magic of this historic moment. a celebratory chappelle return to the stage alongside jamie fox and chris rock who used the moment to make fun of his own recent assault at the academy awards. >> is that will smith?
>> reporter: police say chappelle was not hurt but the on stage attack of a super star comedian, the second in just over a month, raises questions about security concerns and safety for performers. >> it felt like an eternity before the security got there and intervened. in actuality, i'm sure it was a few seconds. it was a very charged moment and everybody, there were gasps, screams, not crazy screams. like everyone was very alarmed by what had just happened. >> reporter: and the representative for dave chappelle called the incident unsettling and unfortunate. and says that the comedian is fully cooperating with the los angeles police department investigations. jake? >> thank you so much. dolly parton's 9:00 to 5:00 schedule is paying off in one way she did not want. stick around. dove knows we damage our hair a lot my hair i curl it.
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