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in actuality i'm sure it was just a few seconds, but it was a very charged moment and everybody -- there were gasps, screams -- not crazy screams but -- everyone was very alarmed by what had just happened. >> and, erin, the representative for chappelle called this incident unsettling and unfortunate and also said that the comedian is cooperating with the police investigation. erin? >> bethany, thank you so much. >> bethany, thank you so much. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com good evening. there are multiple breaking news stories to tell you about, including a new report just published from the "new york times" that says the u.s. is providing intelligence that has helped ukrainians to target and kill many of the russian generals who have died in action in ukraine. now, cnn has not confirmed the story, but one of the reporters from "the times" will join us shortly. a second night of protests across the united states. the aftershocks of that leaked draft supreme court opinion that
would overturn roe v. wade, the 1973 decision that established a constitutional right to abortion. the message from the abortion rights protesters do something. the question tonight is what. already democrats are shaping some of their attacks against republicans. >> what are the next things that are going to be attacked because this maga crowd is really the most extreme political organization that's existed in american history. in recent american history. >> this, the second day that president biden has appeared before reporters to say it's not just abortion rights under threat but others, including the definition of marriage. clearly a message is forming. but the white house today offering few concrete details as to what it could do or would do should the supreme court announce roe is no longer the law of the land. also tonight, the issue of how it would democratic voters. >> and to have that ripped away from them has really shooken a
lot of people and i believe it will have a big impact in people getting out to vote in the next election. they will want their voices heard. >> inflation is the number one driving factor in my state. >> two senators representing two different parts of the country with two outlooks about what will motivate voters this fall and other falls to come. there's also the question tonight of how much national democrats can do. senate democrats plan to vote on a measure to codify roe's protections next week, but which plan and how many senators will vote for it is unclear. one democratic strategy firm told cnn e sssentially that all politics, even abortion, is local and democrats' success on this will be determined less on what national democrats can do and more on the fights on state levels. as states argue future abortion decisions. gary tuchman will take us to a private non-profit women's clinic in tennessee to look at
how the court's decision could affect the services they offer. more than half of states, 26 to be exact, could enact abortion bans if the court strikes down roe v. wade. for now, many republican lawmakers appear more interested in talking about the leak from the supreme court rather than the draft decision itself. the number of democratic lawmakers have already spoken publicly about their past decisions to have an abortion. congresswoman pernilla jayapal spoke about the complications from her first pregnancy and the toll it had on her marriage and physical and mental well being. >> i knew i was not ready to have another child, so i religiously took my daily contraceptive pill. despite that, i became pregnant. i consulted with my doctors who told me that any future pregnancy would likely also be high risk to me and the child, similar to what i had gone through with my first child. i very much wanted to have more
children, but i could not imagine going through that again. after discussions with my partner, who was completely supportive of whatever choice i made, i decided to have an abortion. for me, terminating my pregnancy was not an easy choice. the most difficult i've made in my life. but it was my choice. and that is what must be preserved for every pregnant person. >> just before air tonight, i spoke with congresswoman jayapal about the supreme court's decision as well as her own decision to share her story. congresswoman, thanks so much for joining us. i know this is obviously deeply personal for you. i'm wondering how your own experience shaped your view of abortion rights being in jeopardy right now? >> well, anderson, i have always been a supporter of abortion rights. but when i had to go through the experience itself it gave me a whole different perspective on the nuances and the complexities of making a decision like this and also the incredible importance of having it be for nobody to make except the
pregnant person. because at the end of the day, we are the people that know what we're dealing with. nobody could have known the incredibly difficult situation that i had had with my first child being born just one pound 14 ounces. literally she was this big, the size of a small squash. and i had so many issues for months with not even knowing if she was going to live or die. so, then to have somebody else tell me that i have to have a government mandated pregnancy when i knew that i was not in a position to do that, i think all came into sharp focus. so, now today, i see so many stories. and there isn't a good story, a good abortion story or a bad abortion story. it's just the choice that women have to make about their own bodies. and nobody else should be involved in that other than our doctors and our loved ones. >> what do you think would have happened to you back then if a ban had been in place? >> well, you know, i live in a
state, washington state, where we do -- we have protected the right to choose. but let's say i wasn't in this state. i wouldn't have been able to get an abortion unless i'd had the money. i probably could have scraped together the money for it if i think about it now. but it's not like i was in a situation where that would have been easy. and on top of that, i would have had to try to find somewhere that would do an abortion because i was not in a place where i could have had another baby. my life would have been at risk, the baby's life potentially at risk. so, it's not like banning abortion would get rid of abortions. it would just get rid of safe and legal abortions. people would continue to have abortions. and i think that is the other thing that we really need to think about because this supreme court majority, five justices, who were appointed by two presidents who did not even get the majority of the popular vote, are trying to mandate that
we carry a pregnancy. i'm not telling anyone to have an abortion. i don't think anyone should tell me to not have one. >> with the filibuster in place, though, democrats don't have the votes in the senate to codify roe into law. so, where does that leave you? >> well, i think three things. one, we can bring it to the floor and get people on the record. two, there are some republicans, women, who said that they supported the right to -- a woman's right to choose -- who confirmed some of these supreme court justices who lied to them. and i think we should really appeal to them to be on the right side of history and to join us in a carve out to the filibuster. and then we would have 51 votes. so plus that's the second piece. and if all of that fails, then anderson, obviously it's to the ballot boxes. and in any situation, i think it's important for people to unanimous that the alito opinion, as it was written and leaked, if that is really the opinion that stands, makes a
stunning argument. it makes the argument that if something was not designated as a right, actually specified in the constitution of 200 years ago, then it is not a right today. and that is true of privacy as it relates to abortion but as it relates to any number of other issues, same sex marriage, but also how about interracial marriage, how about all of the things that we have considered settled law that now could be overturned. so, i think this obviously is something that will animate people in november at the election booth. >> i guess the argument from some conservatives on that is, well, even though the supreme court had ruled -- had passed roe v wade, it still wasn't -- their argument is that it wasn't necessarily settled law in that it still was an issue that divided the country. it wasn't that there was an
overwhelming majority of americans -- that everybody was on the same page in supporting it. >> i found that to be one of the most ludicrous arguments that was being made because are they saying that by overturning roe v. wade that now we're going to have a marqore cordial discussi around this, that somehow this is going to bring the country together. that, i thought, was a disingenuous statement from alito. and i would say, actually, this overturning roe v. wade is way out of step with the country. the polling is anywhere from 59% to 70% of americans, depending on which poll you look at, supports maintaining roe v. wade. this is not a partisan issue. this is about freedom for women to make choices about our own bodies. >> congresswoman pernilla jayapal, i appreciate your time. thank you. david axelrod joins us, former senior adviser to
president obama, and gloria borger as well. what it is to say that most republicans, after wanting to repeal roe v. wade for decades, right now seem to want to focus on leaked draft from the supreme court, not the pending overturning of the constitutional right to an abortion? >> it says that they're the dogs that caught the car basically. i don't think they wanted this result right now. if if i were a strategy in their councils, this would have landed very badly. they think they've got this election under control, the midterm elections. now comes this decision, and it does threaten to galvanize constituencies who it appeared were disinterested in the election, or less interested in others, particularly younger voters who are in large numbers oppose this measure. so, i think that they do not want to talk about the substance of this because it is politically inconvenient for them. >> gloria, do you think republicans avoiding the actual
implications repealing roe v. wade, pivoting to the economy is a smart strategy? >> i think it's the only strategy they have when you have 70% of american public saying that we ought to keep roe v. wade as it is and keep it on the books. so, what they're doing is talking about the leak instead of roe v. wade. but it's kind of ludicrous in a way that they're doing it because of course they've been using cultural issues as awe way to get at the democrats, the woke democrats, et cetera, et cetera. if there ever was a cultural issue, it's abortion. and now they're leaning away from it because we're close to the midterm elections and they know that it's going to bring out those young voters that david is talking about. it's going to bring out suburban women. you know, whether it will be enough to get democrats in more seats, we just don't know. but it certainly will close that enthusiasm gap that the democrats currently have. >> the democratic senator from west virginia, joe manchin, was
asked today if he thinks abortion rights will be the driving issue for the midterms. here's what he said. >> inflation is the number one driving factor, i believe, in my state right now that's hurting everybody. not just at the pump but at the grocery store, at the drugstore. >> do you think he's right? >> yeah, i mean, i do think inflation is probably top on people's list of concerns. i think it would be a mistake to say this issue is going to supersede all others on the minds of most voters. the question is, will it bring people to the polls who otherwise wouldn't have come, for whom this is the number one voting issue? and i think that's the question. i think democrats would make a mistake if they become monomaniacal about this issue. clearly it's an important issue. it's a seismic event. but right now people going to gas pumps every day. they go to the grocery stores every day. and they have other concerns. so, democrats have to walk and
chew gum at the same time. they need to make this case. they need to use it to galvanize their constituencies. but they also need to address these other issues. and it would be a mistake not to. >> gloria, there's a cnn poll that came out today saying the economy is by far the most important to voters. do you think democrats can effectively tie the two together? >> well, they're going to try. i was talking to a democratic pollster stay about this. and i said, well, how can democrats use this? they have to talk about the economy, too, as david is saying. and he said, look, this can't be just organic. i mean, this just can't be, oh, stiemts you mention it and sometimes you don't mention it. what it has to be is, you know, they have to lean into it at every chance. yes, they talk about the economy. but they also have to try and portray republican candidates,
particularly in the senate, as radical because this is a policy that is removing a law that's been on the books for 50 years, and say, if you vote for this candidate, you are voting for radical policy. and here are the implications of that policy. so, you have to do both. you have to say, this is how we help you as voters but also this is how the republican party is going down a radical path that you may not be able to come back from for decades. and he says that's the way to kind of move on it. but you can't just do it here and there. you have to do it right in candidates' faces. >> gloria borger, david axelrod. go ahead, david. >> i think one of the things people are sensing right now, there's a sense of chaos out there right now. there's a sense that things are disorderly. >> right. >> this is a very, very upheaval -- this is a big upheaval right now. and i think connecting the
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generals who have died in action in ukraine. we should point out again cnn has not confirmed this story. one of the reporters from the "new york times," julian barns joins us now. julian, i appreciate you being with us. can you talk more about the deaths of russian generals? >> sure. so, what the u.s. is doing, it's providing the location of the sort of mobile headquarters, the sort of mobile tactical headquarters, that different russian units have. these move around the battlefield, right? so their location is changing pretty regularly. but the u.s. kind of points to the ukrainians, you know, where they are. and then the ukrainians add their own intelligence. they have been eavesdropping on some of these russian units. and then they decide when to strike. and they decide if the sort of generals are there at the time. so, it's very much a partnership with the ukrainians, but we know
that many of the 12 russian generals that have been killed, the u.s. has been an intelligence partner in those strikes. >> i was reading the article, and one of the officials you talked to or person you talked to said that the u.s. has stopped short of providing information about the highest level generals who had been in the battle zone. is that correct? >> yeah. and that's an important point. this applies to general valerie grass move, the top uniformed officer in the russian military. and he was in ukraine in recent days, you know, visiting the front lines, presumably giving orders to those top generals. and the u.s. has a policy that they're not going to target those most senior russian leaders, and they're not going to help the ukrainians either. so, there were reports that the ukrainians tried to strike at
the position that he was at or had been, but the u.s. did not help with that strike. >> do we know how the u.s. is able to locate these generals on the battlefield? >> now, the officials we spoke to would not talk about their sources and methods. but, you know, in a general way, you know, we can figure this out, right? there's a lot of satellite imagery, both the u.s. classified satellite program and, you know, commercial satellites that the u.s. contracts with. and this allows them, just like outside analysts do, to track the movements of the military. but this is what they call all-source intelligence, right? so, there's all kinds of different intelligence agencies that are contributing to locating the tactical headquarters of various russian units. >> there's also got to be a lot of concern on the u.s. side that, first of all, this story getting out there, but just the
very fact that, according to your sources, they are doing this, they are sharing this information, that russia would see this as an escalation of u.s. involvement or a direct attack against them? >> yeah, that's an important question. and it's something that, you know, everyone weighs very delicately and thinks about, which is, you know, providing transparency about what the u.s. is doing. but on the same token, u.s. officials don't want to escalate. they don't want to give vladimir putin an excuse to make the war worse. now, the situation here is the u.s. has been very open that they're sharing a lot of intelligence. the russians have acknowledged that these generals have died. and so this is less of a case that putin is going to say this is escalatory. you know, we've had public testimony from u.s. intelligence
officials that they are doing lots to share with the ukrainians. what we're doing here is putting just a little bit more detail about what that is. >> appreciate it. fascinating reporting. thank you. there is more breaking news from ukraine. the ongoing standoff in the steel plant in the southern city of mariupol appears to be worsening. not only are the russians bombing it from the outside. vladimir putin's soldiers are, according to ukrainian forces, inside that plant, where hundreds of civilians may still be trapped, as ukrainian forces engage in bloody battles with the ukrainian forces. meanwhile, ten weeks into russia's invasions, there are new gains by ukrainian forces in the northern kharkiv region, as they retake yet another village close to russia's border in their widening counteroffensive. [speaking foreign language]
>> in the last two weeks, ukrainian troops have retaken about half a dozen villages in the area. sam, what are you learning about the battle inside of the steel plant in mariupol? >> reporter: well, details obviously -- it's ongoing as far as we understand it -- are fairly limited. but we know from the ukrainian authorities, anderson, there was a break through by the russians of the perimeter. they're being somehow engaging now in much closer quarters following a substantial series of air strikes, continuing strikes, and even naval operations against the few hundred ukrainian holdouts. there are also civilians underneath this massive steel works, including 30 children,
according to ukrainian officials, anderson. so, the ukrainians are saying there has been some kind of penetration of their perimeter. it's not clear now whether or not they're able to fight underground, whether they'll force the ukrainians to the surface. this has come almost simultaneously with russian authority and it's often been taken with more than a pinch of salt to allow the evacuation, at least the civilians, from that location over the next three days. it's now thursday morning here in ukraine. so, that evacuation is very unlikely to be conducted. if there's ongoing fighting, the russian agenda, anderson, will be to try to finish the job, try to capture those troops and somehow get to these civilians too. but this has been a long, bloody confrontation. and every time the russians have claimed a break through, it seems the ukrainians are able to fight back.
>> this runs completely counter to what vladimir putin himself very publicly said in a staged conversation with one of his generals saying don't assault the steel plant, just surround it so a fly can't get it out. >> yeah, that was some time back, wasn't it? and almost immediately after that, there was a series of attacks, ongoing air assaults in particular, getting in fact greater and greater lfls of intensity. but this is not in a sense a defiant act by the russians' military ignoring their commander in chief but yet another example of putin's use of -- or misuse of truth. what he says and what he does and what he orders are not obviously connected. and we've seen that time and again throughout this campaign. he is, for example, arguing that no civilians are being targeted. that most certainly is the case throughout the east. >> sam kiley, i appreciate it. thank you. now to southern ukraine,
where many civilians are making a daring escape from kherson. nick paton walsh caught up with some of those evacuees on the long road to freedom. >> reporter: the road to salvation here is a dusty track, where a few know the route and just follow the car in front. above the trees, dust likely from fires caused by distant shelling. these are over-100 cars that have run the gauntlet out of kherson, the first city russia occupied. >> no school, no almost hospital. at the moment, it's terrible. so many russian military there. it's terrible. >> what do they do? >> they -- at the moment, they do nothing. >> reporter: eyes here tell of exhaustion, hours held at russian check points. the only emotion left after two months under the russian gun, a
slight smile of freedom. the idea dawning that life under occupation is behind them, even if a life displaced by war is ahead. >> you can see just in the length of this queue here, the scale of the desperation we're talking here. people fleeing russian occupation, leaving this morning, first light from the city of kherson, the first to be occupied by russia at the start of the war. some of them on their fifth attempt to get out. >> reporter: something this time was different. it was easy. we left early and they were all asleep, she says. goods have dried up. everything is from crimea, she adds. they squeezed ten in here.
tried for a week to get out. we were just on the way to get out, and they let us pass as human shields when things were flying over us, she says. it was terrifying. five attempts, he said. they didn't let us through, just turned us around. they fled a city where things were not going according to the kremlin's plan. the sham referendum russia planned to consolidate control never happened. and this weekend, almost at the moment when they introduced the russian currency, the ruble, the internet and cell service suddenly went off. for even the youngest, the hope ahead is palpable. it was sad to leave, he says. but where we're going will be better.
this is happening, as villages and roads change hands dahily here. these ukrainian soldiers anxious to not have their location or faces shown. we evacuated 1,500 people over the last week, one said. kids, elderly. russians let them through if they say they're going to kherson. further on, they drop off their cars, bikes, and go on foot to our side. across the fields, the agony of russia's blundering and senseless invasion pours out. >> joins us now from the south central city is nick paton walsh. nick, what else are you learning about the civilians that need to get out of that steel plant in mariupol? is there any chance they can get out? >> reporter: limited, i would say, anderson. just so you know the noise behind me is an air raid siren, although the town i'm in has had limited strikes against in the over the past weeks. certainly the move today,
according to the ukrainian president, took 344 people out from the wider area of mariupol. remember those different phases of the evacuation. those that have to get out of azovstal, hundreds possibly still underground. those we spoke to yesterday described a series of set sort of underground bunkers, catacombs almost, that contain different numbers of people, no one individual having full oversight as to how many people were there. there were thought to be hundreds, the number of 30 children, put by ukrainian officials. they're obviously not coming out amid this pitched onslaught by russian forces and the notion that the area is fully blocked. but today's move, moving people who are trying to get out of the city in general, i understand from a source close to the investigation that yesterday's move in fact had 50 buses involved in it that were empty, that were not filled up by
civilians. only five emerges with 100 or so people from azovstal. so, this is a clear indication that they are obviously getting resistance from russian forces at check points there, if indeed 50 vehicles didn't have people on them. so, the hopes, of course, are that these 344 park pick up in the possibility for civilians that were not in the azovstal plant to start getting out. you have to remember these are tiny numbers. if in three or four days, the discussion is between the u.n. and red cross and the kremlin, where the secretary general of the u.n. went, that's yielded about 500 people getting out with 100,000 civilians still possibly inside, then we are literally still scratching the surface here. and it seems yesterday ten times as many buses left empty. those were filled up by people trying to get out.
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u.s. says it doesn't have boots on the ground in ukraine, but according to a breaking "new york times" report, u.s. intelligence has been helping ukrainian forces with real time battlefield intelligence that enable them to kill some russian generals on the front lines. cnn has not confirmed that. joining us is someone who spent two years in prison for criticizing vladimir putin. this coming monday, may 9th, is victory day in russia, celebrating the day the nazi army surrendered. vladimir putin is expected to -- do you see this day as significant potentially for the war in ukraine? >> it's a very significant day
for putin himself because the whole reason he started this war in ukraine because he has his own really absurd way of reading russian history. and because he lacks any positive program for russia, he does not have any positive prospects to show russian citizens. he goes back and looks at russian history. as you see it happening with the u.s., things like that, making united states great again. and a lot of people hear that yet he's going to call for mass negotiation. >> to watch the assault that's going on on the steel plant in mariupol, it's such a sort of just a microcosmic example of the lies that vladimir putin tells. he went on television very intentionally in a meet with a general of his and said, you
know, publicly, as if he was giving the order for the first time, no, don't assault the plant. the general said it would take three or four days to clear it. he said don't do that. encircle it. make sure a fly can't get out. and from that very moment, they have continued to assault it, and we can see the images right now as we are speaking of massive bombardments of that. and according to ukrainian forces inside the steel plant, they have breached the perimeter and there's very close combat inside the steel plant now. >> we have people, and our media outlets are in touch with one of the fighters who is leading this revolt inside of this plant. and she was frankly expecting her husband to be murdered, it's
really painful to see this historic drama to unfold right in front of our eyes. and yes, putin was saying it. i remember when i was in jail, he said multiple times that these girls do not deserve prison. they should not be convicted for jail time. and nonetheless, we were sent to jail for two years. >> there has been a rough -- a rift now between russia and israel just over the past few days. israel very cautious in what they have said about the war in ukraine, about putin's invasion. as you know, russia's foreign minister, sergey lavrov, says it doesn't matter that ukraine has a jewish president, he could still be nazi. he went on to repeat baseless claims that hitler had jewish ancestry. people who speak for the kremlin
use the phrase so often that i have to ask, is nazi just something that people in the putin regime call people they don't like? or does it have a more specific meaning in russia? because they use it so often, it seems about so many people, it seems almost to have no meaning. >> well, we have two meanings of that, as we have historic meaning, regarding the second world war. we have the second meaning in antifascist circles of people like neonazis are people you call the united states alt right. and i think we have this third meaning that is being brought to us by putin's regime who definitely do call everyone who they do not like nazis. but i think lavrov's remarks are outrageous. they -- they're completely unacceptable. and it's shameful to me that this kind of person represents
my country. >> is anti-semitism common in russia in your experience or among the putin's circle? >> i haven't seen anti-semitism in my circles. i cannot speak for the whole country. but never encountered it not when i lived in siberia, not when i moved to moscow. no, i haven't seen it. >> nadia, i really appreciate talking to you, as always. thank you so much. >> thank you so much. coming up, we have more new audio of what house republican leader kevin mccarthy was saying to his caucus in the days following the january 6th insurrection. >> what the president did is atrocious and totally wrong.
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some more breaking news tonight, new audio tapes of republican house leader kevin mccarthy speaking privately by phone with republican leadership in the days after the january 6th assault on the capitol, airing his opinions on the former president's actions and what, if anything, could be done. so, what exactly was mccarthy heard saying this time? >> reporter: anderson, this audio is the latest in a series of recordings that reveal what the gop leader was saying privately to other house republicans in the wake of january 6th. in this latest recording, mccarthy is heard discussing the 25th amendment. to put this in context, in the
aftermath of january 6th, a number of democrats, including members of leadership, publicly called for former president trump to be removed from office either through impeachment or the 25th amendment to the constitution. that would have required then vice president mike pence and the majority of the trump cabinet to vote to remove the president from office due to inability to discharge the powers and abilities of his office. that would have been an unprecedented move. this audio was shared with cnn. let's take a listen to this short clip. >> i think the options have been cited by the democrats so far are the 25th amendment, which is not exactly an elegant solution here. >> that takes too long too. >> so, the fact that mccarthy is heard pressing one of his aides for details about how the 25th amendment process would work, it shows there was a serious conversation at the highest
levels of gop leadership. this wasn't just idle chatter about an abstract theory. >> mccarthy also talk about wanting to speak with president-elect biden. >> that's right. mccarthy said during the call he wanted to reach out to then president-elect joe biden. why? let's talk a listen. >> yeah. what the president did is atrocious and totally wrong. from the standpoint, we're 12 days away. i mean, the one point i'd make with biden, if you have an impeachment and you're stuck sitting in the senate and he needs cabinet members, he's got a secretary of defense, he's got a lot of things he's got to have moving. and if you come from the perspective, you put everything else away, this country is very, very divided. >> at the top of that clip criticizing then-president trump and also appearing to want to work toward a smooth and speedy transition. cnn has reached out to mccarthy's office for comment. >> how is the former president
responding to this latest? >> that's what's interesting here. mccarthy has moved really quickly. this is not the first clip. and he has moved really quickly to solidify his relationship with trump, and it appears he's done what he needs to do to keep his most important constituent happy, trump. while he didn't like what he heard mccarthy saying, their relationship remains strong in part because he says mccarthy worked so hard since january 6th to win his support. anderson, of course we also know that leading in to the midterm elections, solidarity among republicans is really critical to taking back the house and the senate. >> paula reed, appreciate it, thanks. fear and confusion after dave chappelle was attacked on stage during his performance last night. details next.
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deadly weapon. and the motive remains unclear. chappelle, in his recent netflix special, does note he angers a lot of people with his comedy. >> listen, women get mad at me. gay people get mad at me. but i'm tell you right now, this is true, these transgenders, these [ bleep ] want me dead. >> reporter: this assault took place just about a mile away from another recent on stage attack on a comedian, the infamous oscar slap. last night, chris rock was also performing, soon by chappelle's sign making reference, cutting the tension. >> was that will smith? >> reporter: so, still unclear why this happened and maybe more importantly how this happened. >> it felt like an eternity before the security got there, and you know, intervened. in actuality i'm sure it was just a few seconds. but it was a very charged
moment, and everybody -- there were gasps, screams. >> nick watt joins me now from los angeles. i would think there's a lot of security at an event like this. do we know how this person managed to get the weapon inside and get on the stage? >> reporter: well, anderson, those are very good questions, and we don't know the answers yet. i mean, how could this person get a knife through the metal detectors into the hollywood bowl, particularly with so many high-profile performers and frankly guests in attendance. chappelle's people have put out a statement saying he is cooperating with what they call the active police investigation and will not let this incident overshadow what he says has been a great run here at the bowl. you know, it was ironic, earlier in his set, chappelle was joking about having to increase security at his home after apparently somebody was hanging around shouting racial slurs at him at his home.
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