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ukrainian forces now say russian troops in addition fired on a car that was trying to help with the evacuations of civilians. at least one ukrainian soldier was killed, and as sara sidner reports for us now, ukraine's president is accusing russia of blocking all international organizations from providing food, water, and other supplies to civilians trapped in mariupol, doing that is a form of torture by starvation, he says. >> a ukrainian soldier in shocked silence, his arm shredded and burned. his vehicle hit by a shoulder fired grenade launcher, officials say. another victim in the bloody battle for mariupol. the video a terrible reminder for those who have relatives still fighting there. olga has a husband in the ukrainian army in mariupol. anna's brother is there as well. it's so painful for me. people can't just be silent. they don't have days there. they're counting the minutes.
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anna says she fears for her brother, who she says is deteriorating physically as he fights the russians inside the plant. he's very skinny, he's exhausted. his eyes have black bags, she says. he's in horrible condition, but that's just physically, mentally, he's unbelievably strong. they are all so motivated to tear the russians apart. russia is attacking from the ground and the sky. the devastation immeasurable. the human suffering incalculable. under heavy fire, hundreds of civilians still stuck cowering in fear under the steel plant. this is the last ukrainian stronghold in mariupol, but russia is squeezing in on it, relentlessly bombing the place, even after a promise of a cease-fire to allow those trapped civilians to escape. >> translator: once again, the russians violated the promise of a truce and did not allow the
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evacuation of civilians who continue to hide from shelling in the basement of the plant. >> friday, a third rescue attempt got under way. at least a dozen civilians rescued, adding to the nearly 500 people freed. 21-year-old nicole was able to escape mariupol. pictures of her formerly happy life there now devastate her. this is practically suicide, if i do, my heart shatters. i don't understand why. how, at some point. on the other side of the battle, a russian soldier nonchalantly says talks are useless for a cease-fire, the war in his mind has been ongoing for eight years. since the russians invaded and occupied crimea. now, terror washes over another place, and the bombs continue to fall. we have now heard from ukrainian officials who say actually 50 people have been finally
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evacuated from that cavernous area underneath the steel plant. but there are hundreds more still waiting for the time when they can come into the light. it is incredibly dangerous there still, lots of people in a lot of pain wondering what their future is. >> sara sidner live for us from kyiv, thank you. >> cnn has learned the u.s. provided intelligence that helped the ukrainians sink the flagship of russia's black sea fleet, you might recall. it is the ship that ukrainians on snake island told to go f itself at the beginning of the war. moscow was struck by anti-ship missiles on april 14th and soon sunk. today, john kirby said the u.s. did not provide specific targeting information. let's get right to katie boval who broke the story. is this just a matter of semantics? >> it's a technical distinction the biden administration is trying to draw here. here's what we know. we know the ukrainians spotted
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the ship operating off their coast. they called their american counterparts to ask for confirmation. the americans were able to say, yes, and provide some details about the ship's location. and of course, the ukrainians then go on to fire two cruise missiles that sank the ship. now, u.s. officials are not disputing that sequence of events. where they're drawing the line here is officials are telling us that the kind of intelligence that they provided the ukrainians wasn't realtime geolocated kind of ten-point grid intelligence of the kind that the u.s. itself might have used in say, iraq, afghanistan, or elsewhere that would have allowed the ukrainians to immediately take a shot. so u.s. officials are saying that they were not involved in the decision to strike the ship, and in fact, they didn't even know whether or not ukraine was intending to take the shot once they had the positive identification in their hands. as you say, jake, is that a bit of a distinction without a difference when at the end of the day the result is u.s.
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intelligence assisting with the sinking of the muskova? >> yeah, what did they think they were going to do with the information, send emails? >> right, that's exact. and u.s. officials have been frank. they have said we're providing intelligence to the ukrainians that would allow them to conduct offensive strikes and to allow them to conduct strikes that would be in defense of their homeland from this russian invasion. but it's worth listening to what pentagon press secretary john kirby had to say today and how he defines those limitations. >> all right, thanks so much. >> the intelligence we provide to ukraine is legal, lawful, legitimate, and limited. we give them information, other partners give them information. and oh, by the way, they have terrific intelligence of their own. they corroborate all of that together and then they make the decisions they're going to make, and they take the actions they're going to take. >> it's an effort to draw a red line around the kind of support they're providing to the ukrainians and it's an effort to
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say, look, we're not directly participating in this conflict, but as you asked, is it rhetorical, a distinction without a difference. >> thank you so much. here now, democratic congressman raja krishnamoorthi from illinois. let's start with pentagon spokesman john kirby's comments. the u.s. appears to be sensitive about this issue, about being seen as playing a direct role in either the sinking of the muskova or in the killing of russian generals, as "the new york times" reported earlier this week. isn't it fair to say the u.s. intelligence has contributed to russian deaths? >> i think it's definitely contributed to the ukrainians being able to defend themselves and then combined with other intelligence capabilities and gathering other insights, i think that they then conduct their own strikes. but i think it's really important to say very clearly
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that the u.s. is going to help them to defend themselves and then what they do with that information from there is really up to them. >> kirby said that the u.s. shared information about the location of the muskova without knowing ukraine's intent. do you buy that? we all know what the intent was. i'm not saying i have an issue with it, but i mean, there seems to be a dance going on that i don't really fully understand. we're giving them arms, money, intelligence. of course we're helping them kill russian soldiers. >> well, i think that it's a little different than for instance what happened in iraq or afghanistan where we clearly provided a lot more information to our partners to target and to help them to actually destroy certain facilities or pieces of equipment and so forth. here, it's more as mr. kirby said, providing intelligence so
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that you know where the next missile is coming from if it does. as you know, it was very involved in shelling the ukrainians repeatedly, and so being able to tell them where it's located so that they can prepare themselves for the next shelling and attack is really important. >> again, i'm not taking issue with what the u.s. is doing. i'm just wondering why there's almost this pretense. where is the line where the u.s. crosses it and it is, you would be considering this to be a proxy war with russia? we're giving them arms, giving them billions, giving them money, giving them intelligence. if that's not a proxy war with russia, what is? >> well, i think that the line is let me take it a different way. in afghanistan, the russians were involved with potentially paying bounties to afghan war lords and others to kill americans, to go on the hunt for
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americans wherever they were. here, we are actually giving assistance to the ukrainians to be able to defend themselves from oncoming attacks. now, in defending themselves, do they end up killing russians? that's very possible. and that's just the way it's going to be, so long as they are able to defend themselves successfully. >> is the fear here that russia would directly retaliate against the united states? is that why these lines are being drawn and this language is being used? >> i think that all along we have made it very clear that we are going to provide whatever material assistance necessary to defend the ukrainians, not to go on the offense, for instance, in russia or to locate strategic assets and so forth. i think that's an important distinction that we're trying to maintain. >> president biden just announced another $150 million worth of equipment for ukraine, in addition to asking congress
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for another $33 billion. senate democrats are considering tying that to covid relief funding. republicans say if that's true, they would want some sort of line to insure that title 42 is kept. that's the trump-era policy that allows them oo invoke the coronavirus pandemic to more quickly eject migrants from the country. would you be okay with that if this is all one big package? >> i think that we absolutely have to combat covid, not only here in the united states where we're starting to run out of funds to buy treatments and vaccines. but also across the world, if we're ever going to end this pandemic. i'm helping to lead the fight there. i think that's a totally separate issue from the border, jake, and i think we should take those issues separately. i would not want to see it
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related to border issues. i think that the package should involve ukraine and of course the covid aid so we can actually get out of this pandemic. >> title 42 is about covid. it's an hhs regulation, i believe, health and human services saying because of the covid pandemic, the authorities at the border can eject migrants more quickly and not let them stay and declare asylum. it's directly related to covid. if republicans wanted to attach that, i understand you don't like it, but if republicans wanted to attach it, it is germane to covid. >> i think the issue there is it's germane, but it's not directly related to fighting covid, which is what we absolutely have to do right now. and right now, we're seeing a surge in cases, and if we're going to sit here and talk about the border instead of dealing with those cases, we could see
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another resurgence of covid by the fall. >> i want to ask you about abortion, given the news this week about it. president biden is calling on congress to pass laws that would codify roe v. wade nationwide before the supreme court presumably undermines it. democrats don't have the votes to do that. i mean, in the senate. they do in the house. so what can congress actually do? >> i think the main point here is we have to get people on the record if we're going to hold them accountable in the fall and beyond. at this point, obviously, we need to defeat the filibuster in my opinion to move forward with approval of the women's health protection act, the whpa, which is being filibustered in the senate. but if we can't get that, jake, we have to get on the record everybody's position very clearly on this so we can hold them accountable at the polls in november. >> congressman raja
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krishn krishnamoorthi, thanks so much. >> europe is getting ready to sanction more prominent russians and vladimir putin's reputed girlfriend is on the list. we're going to find out more about her in a sec. >> then, after the leak of the supreme court draft opinion on abortion, the republican governor of texas is now considering taking aim at another supreme court precedent. stay with us. ber? because the sleep number 360 smart bed is really smart. it senses your movement andd automatically adjusts to help keep you both comfortable alall night. it's also temperature balancing, so you stay cooool. it's so smart it knows exactly how long, how well, and when you slept. sleep number takes care of the science, all you have to do is sleep. don't miss our weekend special. save $500 on the sleep number 360 c4 smart bed, queen now only $1,299. lowest price ever! plus, no interest until january 2025. ends monday. it's still the eat fresh refresh™ and subway's refreshing everything like the new honey mustard rotisserie-style chicken. it's sweet, it's tangy, it's tender, it never misses. you could say it's the steph curry of fooongs. you could, but i'm not gonna. subway keepsefreshing and refreshing and re...
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continuing with our world lead, the european union is getting ready to hit russia with new economic sanctions because of vladimir putin's invasion of ukraine. cnn's jim bittermann has a closer look now at some of the names on the list which includes the leader of the russian orthodox church as well as putin's reputed girlfriend. >> putin's punishment for the
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war hitting his most inner circle. the eu's prime target, elena, who is said to be putin's girlfriend and believed to have been given control over much of putin's wealth and property. the two have been rumored to be in a romantic relationship since putin appeared to take an unusual interest in her after she won a gold olympic medal for russia in rhythmic gymnastics in 2004. a few years later, rumors began to circulate putin was separating from his wife, rumors the kremlin vehemently denied but were confirmed in 2015 after the couple divorced after 30 yearotches marriage. meanwhile, the woman rose steadily in russian political circles, becoming a deputy in parliament in a post she held for six years before moving on to control a pro-putin media group. there have been called from supporters of ukraine to sanction her, but washington was
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reported to be reluctant to go after someone so close to the russian president for fear of taking another step toward escalating the conflict. late last month, the white house appeared to change approach. >> we have sanctioned president putin and also his daughter, his closest cronies and will continue to review more. >> among the more, another close confidante of putin, the primate of the russian orthodox church who is said to have wealth beyond the church leader. he's called putin's special peace keeping operation, which he added was a religious cleansing operation to liberate russian speakers in ukraine. he's so close to putin that in a highly unusual statement from the putin, pope francis said the patriarch cannot become putin's altar boy, something that threatened to put the churches
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further at odds. there are a number of other targets in the eu sanctions including a promise to wean european nations off russian gas and oil by the end of this year. however, there are already some among the 27 european nations who are demanding an exception to that because they are heavily dependent on russian energy. >> jim, thanks so much. >> growing alarm about a mysterious and deadly hepatitis outbreak affecting young kids in the u.s. why some children are going from the doctor's office to the icu in just a matter of hours. stay with us. what you'll need, and help you build a a flexible plan for cash flw designed to last. so you can go from saving... to living. if you have advanced non-small cell lung cancer, your first treatment could be a chemo-free combination of two immunotherapies that works differently. it couldean a chance to live longer. opdivo ps yervoy is for adults newly diagnosed with non-sma cell lung cancer that has spread, tests positive for pd-l1,
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health lead. the cdc is sounding the alarm about a growing number of cases nationwide about an unusual disease in kids. it's not covid. public health officials are investigating mysterious cases of acute hepatitis in children ranging from younger than 2 to older than 5. the cause of the outbreak is unclear. the cdc says more than 100 cases are under investigation in 25 states, nearly all of the children, 94%, needed to be hospitalized. 15 needed liver transplants. 5 have died. cnn health reporter jacqueline howard joins us with more. the cdc just held a briefing about this a short while ago. what have we learned and what do we know about the symptoms the kids are experiencing? >> cdc officials are looking for answers here. behind these acute hepatitis cases cases. like you said, these are unusual, unexplained. we still don't know the cause. theres the latest we were told just today.
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cdc officials told us 109 children were identified having these unusual acute cases of hepatitis. the children live in 25 states and territories, that's 24 states plus the territory of puerto rico. 15 of them needed liver transplants. that represents 14% of the total number of kids and sadly, five of them died. and when you think about the symptoms here, jake, as you said, more than 90% required hospitalization. which tells us the symptoms were severe. and that really has physicians and cdc officials on high alert. when you think of hepatitis, it's inflammation of the liver. specific signs to look for, yellowing of the eyes, dark colors urine, clay colored stool. some of the children needing liver transplants is what really raises the alarm here. >> jacqueline, cnn spoke with a pediatrician who treated two of the patients with this unusual condition. what did the doctor say? >> that's right. the pediatrician was dr. hallie bott, based in minneapolis, and
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she said one of her patients who is 2 years old, needed a liver transplant just this week. and what has the doctor concerned, she's worried that if more children are identified in this investigation, and more of them need liver transplants, there will be an increased need of donors. have a listen. >> we might have -- we might run out of a lot of, you know, deceased donors and might have to turn towards living related, but i think if this becomes, you know, more severe, if the numbers keep going up and more kids are needing a transplant, that would be our biggest challenge. >> so as we saw there, this is if cases get more severe and if we see more. right now, this is still rare. and only 14% of the children needed liver transplants, but still, this is of concern, jake. >> the first u.s. cases were found in alabama. now, all of the kids there
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tested negative for hepatitis a, b, and c, but they all tested positive for aiden virus. explain this for us. >> that's right. those cases that really put this first on cdc officials' radar, as you mentioned, there was this connection with adenno virus, but when you look at the national numbers released just today, cdc officials said more than half of the children nationwide in that 109 number, more than half had a past history of adenovirus infection. yes, that is still part of this investigation, looking at a possible connection, but cdc officials say they're looking at other possible connections, other possible causes. and i thought it was interesting, jake, one cdc official said today because this is an evolving situation, keep in mind, there might be more than one cause. some of these cases might have different causes. we're really just going to stay across this and see what comes out of this investigation at this point. >> all right, jacqueline howard,
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open your eyes! compare hundreds of travel sites at once. kayak. search one and done. the u.s. supreme court appears preparing to erase a nearly 50-year precedent by undermining roe v. wade, the republican govern or of texas wants to overturn the ruling on plier versus dough. that insured undocumented children had a right to public education in the united states. texas republican governor greg abbott said times have changed since the ruling almost 40 years ago. as paula reed reports, abbott argues the cost to educate thousands of undocumented students is a financial burden on his state. >> if the landmark 1973 roe v. wade decision can be overturned, what about other long-standing
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precedents? conservatives now see an opening after the leak of a draft supreme court decision. texas governor greg abbott now signaling he may challenge a 1982 ruling that granted undocumented children access to public schools. >> it is a 40-year-old decision that dealt with immigration in the state of texas that was extremely different then than it is now. >> today's supreme court decision is historic. >> it was a supreme court case that focused on a 1975 texas law prohibiting the use of state funds for the education of undocumented children and authorizing local school districts to deny those children enrollment. in 1982, the high court ruled that the law violated the constitution's equal protection clause and that migrant children should be allowed to enroll in public schools regardless of their citizenship status. in its opinion, the court wrote, education has a fundamental role in maintaining the fabric of our
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society and provides the basic tools by which individuals might lead economically productive lives to the benefit of us all. but abbott, a republican running for a third term in november, now wants to revisit the issue. >> when the decision came out, the immigration that we were seeing into the state of texas was primably from mexico, and the only language barrier and issue was spanish. now, we have people coming from more than 105 different countries across the globe. >> he says his state should not have to pay to educate migrant children. >> listen, we're dealing with billions or more a year just in educational expenses. >> the white house already rebuking the idea of abbott's potential challenge. >> that's ultra maga, denying public education to kids, including immigrants to this country. i mean, that is not the main -- a mainstream point of view. >> and this is just one of the rights established by the high court that would be challenged
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if roe is overturned. >> what it reveals is at least justice alito and the justices who are going to sign on to the final version of that opinion are willing to take a clean break from long established precedent of the supreme court. and so what that does is then opens up the door, i think, potentially for a range of other challenges where this new conservative majority in the supreme court will simply say, we're not going to follow precedent because we think that prior case was wrongly decided. >> since the 1982 decision, little has changed in the legal landscape concerning the education of undocumented children. attempts to chip away at the decision have been unsuccessful, but one thing that has changed in just the pasest past few years is the composition of the court. so jake, all eyes continue to be on the justices' big decision on abortion rights expected next month. >> all right, paula reed, thank you so much. let's dive into it.
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what's your take on this? i mean, i am old enough to remember governor perry, rick perry and not to mention then-governor huckabee talking about the need to be compassionate and educate the children of undocumented immigrants, even if you don't think the undocumented immigrants should be here, the kids did nothing wrong. >> that's right, and i think that's the way most people, including a lot of republicans, still think. i think this has a lot more to do with governor abbott's re-election campaign than it has to do with anything the supreme court is actually doing or is it likely to take up. but the fact is the failure of the federal government to take control of the border creates some fiscal costs for states like texas. >> sure. >> abbott can't do a whole lot about that, but what he's doing right now is simply essentially a form of venting about that. >> yeah, hillary, abbott's suggested challenge of this supreme court decision comes after that draft memo leaked and politico got it about roe v. wade. a brand-new cnn poll we just
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released on the show shows 66% of americans do not support undermining or getting rid of roe v. wade. 34% do. taken in the wake of the story this week. supreme court obviously doesn't necessarily have to listen to polls or congress or anyone. they can do whatever they want. does it matter, though? do you think that the u.s. supreme court cares that they are doing something that a majority of the american don't want them to do? >> i don't think the court is a monolith, so i think these are individuals who, you know, probably independently do care about their personal reputations, and i think that justice kavanaugh and justice gorsuch, who basically said to the senate and privately to senators that they were not going to vote for this, that they thought this was settled law, you know, ought to pay attention to the fact that for the reason that they did that, why they got those votes. otherwise, they wouldn't have gotten those votes. that's pretty important. so i do think it matters.
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i think, you know, there's a difference between being punitive and being thoughtful on policy. abbott feels punitive here. this roe decision feels punitive, not going to help republicans, not going to help the supreme court's reputation. >> nia-malika, tall fencing has gone up around the supreme court in anticipation of protests and possibly violence. the white house press secretary jen psaki was asked about activists who have gone a step further and published, posted online little pins of where the six of the supreme court justices live. and was asked about that. here's part of her answer. >> we obviously want people's privacy to be respected. we want people to protest peacefully, if they want to protest. that is certainly what the president's view would be. >> he doesn't care if they're protesting outside the supreme court or outside someone's private residence? >> i don't have an official u.s. government position on where people protest.
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i want -- we wanted of course to be peaceful. >> congressman lee zeldin, a republican running for governor in new york tweeted, does anyone in the biden administration have the courage and decency to speak out in defense of the physical safety of our nine supreme court justices? the doxing and intimidation campaign targeting these justices is illegal and jen psaki just used her platform to green light it. what do you think? >> listen, i don't think she used her platform to green light it at all. she's in a difficult position because she's representing the american government, and the american government can't abridge free speech and protest and where people protest. they do have a right to protest, say on the sidewalk in front of anyone's house. that's just the way the american government and america has worked for decades. that's a good thing. and you know, she was mindful to say she wants it to happen peacefully and that there not be violence but she's walking a thin line because she can't come out and say that the american government's policy is to dictate where people can protest. >> let's talk about this
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falloutrage, though. this is a -- the majority of protests around these issues have really actually been on the other side, on the so-called anti-choice side, where they have blocked poor women pregnant, you know, sick, trying to get into health care clinics looking for reproductive services. where they wave fetuses around, you know, to make people try and feel shame. i mean, this is just crazy that this is now the thing about oh, let's attack democrats for not condemning protests. >> you think it's mock outrage? >> i think it's real outrage and justified outrage. >> they published the neighborhoodoffs where the supreme court justices live. >> that's right, and there's no free speech principle that would keep the white house press secretary from saying we would prefer that groups not target individuals' homes. simple thing to do doesn't violate anybody's first amendment rights to say that, just as it doesn't violate anybody's first amendment rights for her to say other things about protests.
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she couldn't do it, and the reason she couldn't do it is because too much of the democratic base is invested in this kind of extreme tactic. >> i want to bring you in on something as a journalist you can talk about, which is majority leader chuck schumer says the senate is going to take up a bill next week to codify roe v. wade. it clearly doesn't have 60 votes. there aren't 60 people, senators who support abortion rights. does it even have 50 votes? >> i don't think so at this point. we do have at least two republican senators who support abortion rights in theory. lisa murkowski and susan collins, but they don't like this draft of the bill. susan collins told reporters on the hill she believes it doesn't have enough protections, for example, for catholic hospitals who may not want to provide abortions. she says that language does not go far enough. and chuck schumer was asked, why don't you try to work with these two republicans to come up with a compromise? and he made it pretty clear this is a messaging bill. this is a bill that is to show
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the public that democrats are the party that would protect abortion rights, and they want to make that message clear to the public. this isn't about legislating. not about policy making and they don't have a majority just amongst themselves. joe manchin, obviously, we talk about him a lot on the show, he does not support abortion rights and he would not support this. >> let me play devil's advocate. wouldn't a more effective messaging bill if that's what schumer is trying to do, be able to get the votes of susan collins and lisa murkowski and fail but have 51 votes. it's a bipartisan bill. >> you would think. it's hard to imagine a bill that lisa murkowski and susan collins would get behind. maybe they could narrowly tailor it. i think democrats sort of waiting on susan collins to vote for them have ended up waiting for a long time. >> and there's nothing in the roe v. wade decision that forces catholic hospitals to offer abortion services. >> there is something in the democrats' bill.
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>> this is, again, a red herring to find an excuse to have the republicans stay in their corner, and susan collins to dance on the fence, which is what she has tried to do on this issue for 25 years. >> the democrats' bill has language which for the first time you would have legislation that says, the religious freedom restoration act does not apply to this bill. that is in fact going further than roe v. wade, that is stripping away kaconscience rights. if the democrats wanted to do something that could get 51 votes, certainly, it's not a mystery what they would have to do. >> that's a services issue. that doesn't require anybody to offer the service. >> i want you to take on a different criticism of the democratic party coming from california governor gavin newsom saying the democrats do not have a comprehensive plan to protect this right, the right to an abortion. take a listen. >> where the hell is my party? where is the democratic party? this is a concerted coordinated
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effort. and yes, they're winning. they are. they have been. let's acknowledge that. we need to stand up. where is the counteroffensive? >> i mean, does he have a point? >> i mean, this case in particular has been pending before the court for, you know, a long time. i think the women's groups have been anticipating a loss, but i don't know that democratic leaders have strategized about what they would do about a loss. i'm with governor newsom. the key issue here is this is going to end up going to the states. and this is going to fall to governors like gavin newsom to protect a woman's right to choose, and we're going to be a divided country, where if you live in one state, you have certain rights, and as a human, and if you live in another state, you have fewer rights as a human. and that is -- that is a horrible place to be, but that's where we're ending up because there is this outcome. >> i just wanted to say, this made me think, and i don't know if president biden is going to run for re-election or not, but this seems like this is a good
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issue. you were talking about abbott is running for re-election with his bill. this seems like something for newsome where he could have potential to -- it's very -- i think there are a lot of democrats who want to hear that message, democrats in washington aren't doing anything. >> governors in blue states such as gavin newsom, they're going to have that platform, particularly if and when this issue does go back to the states. actually, for a weekend story, some of my colleagues and i talked to a lot of democratic activists in these states about the inability for democrats in washington to pass their agenda. wuf one of the activists said we just want to see them fight. we want to see lawmakers going to the mats to fight for what we believe in in our policies, and newsom is a good example of what activists want to hear on the ground. >> i think this is right. i have been talking to democratic strategists talking to focus groups and this is what they want to see. they do think republicans are going too far, but what are democrats offering and fighting for? and where do they stand? >> great panel. thanks to all of you. >> breaking news in the hunt for
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in our national lead, breaking news in the manhunt for the accused killer and that alabama sheriff's deputy who apparently killer and the authorities have found their getaway vehicle in tennessee, but they did not find the couple. we are in florence, alabama, with the latest on the search. >> authorities tracking and encounters setbacks. u.s. marshals have located the
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getaway vehicle, but have no new leads on where the pair is now. >> we're sort of back to square one as far as a vehicle description. >> the sheriff said a tow truck driver towed the car from a back road in tennessee about two hours north of where the fugitives were last seen at the detention center. >> we're assuming where it was abandoned, and it was abandonened so quickly he they probably are mechanical issues with it. >> reporter: authorities released images showing how their appearance could have changed. here's what casey white may look like with different facial here. here is vicki white as a brunt net, with shorter hair. others show his distinctive tattoos, include a confederate flag on his bag. >> he does have some tattoos on
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his chest, a tattoo in between his shoulder blades, and something we learned recently, he does have two eyeballs tattooed on the back of his head. >> reporter: they took off friday morning. surveillance video shows them leaves in a patrol car under the guise, official are trying to find out more about the so-called special relationship with the officer and the inmate which allegedly dates back to 2020, when casey white was brought to lauderdale county for an arraignment on murder charges. we do know and have confirmed they were in touch via phone during that two-year period while he was in prison and she was still working here. >> it appears to have been well coordinated. she stayed in a hotel the night before. >> she was spot odd video at the quality inn. >> the sheriff's office still
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