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split from the royal family in 2020. you are live in the cnn newsroom, i'm jessica dean in for jim acosta today, and a miracle in mariupol for the hundreds of ukrainian civilians who were stranded beneath a steel plant as russian forces battered them overhead for nearly two months. the nightmare is finally over. ukraine's deputy prime minister today says all women, children, and elderly civilians have been evacuated from that site. it is a small sign of hope in a city that has been all but flattened by russian attacks. and now the areas still standing are getting a children resign. soviet area imagery and monuments are cropping up and some road signs have even been switched to russian. this as moscow's red square readies for a military spectacle. monday's victory day parade will commemorate the soviet union's
victory over the nazis, a campaign vladimir putin has tried to link to his ukraine invasion. but nearly 80 years ago, russian tanks brought the liberators. now for ukraine they're the occupiers accused of carrying out nazi-like atrocities, and it could get worse. ukrainian officials now warning of increased russian attacks tied to that holiday. let's focus now on mariupol, cnn international security editor nick paton walsh has a deeper look at the weeks' long struggle to get those civilians out. >> reporter: escorted by armor, curtains closed, inside are said to be some of the latest si civilians to evacuate the unbridled hell of azovstal steel plant in mariupol. these are russian troops escorting them out, not the united nations who helped evacuate earlier in the week. ukrainian soldiers here friday said one of theirs died and six were injured in an evacuation
bid. battered and uninhabitable as much or mariupol is, still ahead of monday's victory day, it appears the city's drama theater is packed with children when it was bombed by russia killing hundreds is now being cleared up, excavated. these satellite images first on cnn showing rubble visible in april gone in recent days. vehicles lined up in the ground around the theater cleared to make it more presentable. it's not clear why they are tidying the scene of what many called a war crime. the warped world of what russia calls liberation awas also on view here in these rare images filmed inside a filtration camp where ukrainians are held before being forced to go to russia. passports taken, sleeping on the floor or in chairs illness from the cold, all part of the experience of liberation according to one woman whose
father was there. and this stage visit evidence of russia's rush to assimilate what it's clumsily torn off ukraine, this is kherson, the first city it captured and the man in the beard is a separatist leader from donetsk in a visit suggesting kherson and the russian occupation where protests were crushed will also be declared a tin pot people's republic soon. it also has the whiff of empire. here he sits discussing transferring food from kherson to russia's separatist areas. watermelons and tomatoes, he might call it trade. ukraine a food heist. but moscow is far from having its way and the costs are heavy. these images cnn has confirmed were filmed in a graveyard. the flags over the russian para troop division, the the leelite.
so much rubble in russia's tiny victories. >> nick paton walsh for us, hangs so muchl. joining us now is mi aa veteran defending his homeland in ukraine. thanks for being with us. as someone who's fighting against russia, i'd like to know what your reaction is to these images we are now seeing out of mo moscow's red square of them preparing for this big victory like celebration where vladimir putin's going to show off his military might there and try to possibly declare mission accomplished. what do you think about that? >> well, it's not a surprise to me because the propaganda machine is working and the propaganda machine, it doesn't work for the outside world, but, you know, his main mission right now is to convince his own people that what he's doing is right, and it's like a solid union with 50, 60, 70 years ago
u.s.s.r. was doing the same thing. i mean, it's the same thing, they use the same notebooks where they get their marks, how to make propaganda inside their own countries so it's not a surprise to me. but right now, you know, i am -- i was deputized and we worked in kyiv, we're going to move to the east where the battle is in about a week, but right now we stayed here behind because we wait for some provocations or rocket attacks or whatever, something on this may 9th, may 10th, victory days. we're waiting for something to come because we don't know what to expect, but something's going to happen here in kyiv or in other big cities. >> yeah, i can't imagine -- yeah, the anxiety that goes for everyone that's having to experience that, just waiting to see what happens.
how would you say the ukrainian forces are holding up? >> well, you know, ukrainian forces are holding up well. the biggest thing right now is, you know, as of azovstal factory in mariupol where all the civilians were evacuated, not so long ago is great, and i'm happy about it, but there's still military personnel there, and injured military personnel there. and i think it's important for the world to know that there's still people there in the factory because, you know, military people, military personnel, they're humans too. there's injured people that died there for starving dehydration and injuries, and i hope that we were already sending -- to turkey or other people to help these evac missions from the
fac factory. there's still people there. of course women and children were already evacuated from there. military personnel, they're humans too and i hope the world will know and help us to evacuate them from that factory. >> still there in those -- >> yeah, those same soldiers from the battalion that were there for two months protecting s civilians and kids and children, and every day they drop like 50, 60 bombs on them. can you imagine? it's horrible. it's unimaginary. >> it's awful. it's absolutely awful. i want to ask you, we're seeing the russians trying to put their stamp on ukrainian cities, we just saw that in nic's piece that we just played, the flags, road sign, they're changing the language from ukrainian to russian. these are some of the places they bombed civilian buildings beyond recognition. what are you seeing on the ground in terms of that sort of
thing? >> well, where i'm at right now around the capital it never happened, but i think what they're doing is, again, propaganda purposes, they're changing signs and they're taking videos and pictures so they can show on their tv that, see, it's being liberated and that sort of thing. i think it's just a show, nothing -- it's just a propaganda, type of propaganda so they can show that they achieved something, you know. they can make it look bigger on tv than it is. >> right. and president zelenskyy has said more than a half million ukrainians have been forcibly deported to russia since the start of this war. what do you think russia plans to do with all of these people? >> well, you know, i cannot tell you for sure, but i haven't
heard a single time that russia did something good with anybody. i hope and i pray for the best, but i've been to -- right after the russians ran away from the capital area, i seen what happened in bucha and irpin, you know, there are hundreds of bodies lying on the ground executed and i don't know, you know, whatever they do -- they do a lot of war crimes. i have no explanation why they do it. i hope those people who are forcefully moved to russia, i hope they'll be fine, but you know, but i just hope they'll be fine. >> right, and i want -- you mentioned bucha and what the horrors that you witnessed there. how are you processing that as
just a human taking all of that in? >> you know what, let me tell you, the first time i was there i was still too move something one block away. i forgot -- sorry, one second. yeah. sorry, the lighting, yeah. i was told to move something one block away and i looked at that street, and that street one block i counted six bodies lying on the floor, and you know, i just said -- i'll just go around, so i went around the block so i just don't have to go through those bodies so i don't have to, you know, look. because one thing is when you look at it on cnn or whatever online, on facebook or whatever, you go google and you see these images, it's horrible, but when you actually have to experience it, you know, it's horrible. >> i'm sure it is. >> so that day i had to go
around the block so i don't have to just go through those bodies, and there were so many of them -- sorry. somebody called me. yeah, there were so many, horrible. >> it's awful. >> well, all right, miro, thank you for taking time. we appreciate it. >> sorry can i have one more thing? i've seen -- i want to thank american -- you know, there's a lot of support, and we know that we're not alone, and my american friends and family and a lot of american people, they're sending us gear, and they're sending us, you know, plates, gas masks, stuff like that to help us fight, and i just want to say thank you that you're not leaving ukraine and not leaving us alone. it's very important. without you, without you nothing is possible, so thank you. >> miro popovich in kyiv, thanks so much for being with us.
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we have brand new cnn polling in the wake of that draft opinion revealing the supreme court is on the verge of striking down the landmark abortion decision roe versus wade. the leaked document is not final, but it has already ignited rallies for and against abortion rights nationwide, and now tall fencing surrounding the entire perimeter of the supreme court in anticipation of what may be to come. cnn political director david chalian takes a closer look at where americans currently stand on this issue. >> our brand new cnn poll conducted by ssrs gives us a first look at reaction to that
bomb shell draft opinion that was leaked out of the supreme court suggesting the court is poised to overturn roe versus wade, and what we find in this brand new poll is that it is still a two to one issue in favor of roe remaining the law of the land, 66% of americans in this poll do not want to see roe v. wade overturned, only 34% would like to see that case overturned, and when you break it down by party, 88% of democrats want to see roe remaining in place, 71% of independents and 30% of republicans do not want roe overturned. as for those efforts in the senate by democrats to try and find a way to codify roe into law, well, that's broadly popular even though chuck schumer doesn't seem to have the votes for it up on capitol hill. 59% of americans in this poll support a law that establishes a
nationwide right to abortion, 41% oppose it. and we asked folks what would you like to see happen in your state in a post-roe world if it is overturned. look at this, 20% of voters in this poll say they would like to see a complete ban on abortion in their states, just 20%. but look at the bottom of this, 51% a slim majority would like to see their state a safe haven for abortion in a post-roe world. as for the political impact on the midterms, this may be one of the most interesting findings in our new poll. look at this, we asked how people felt if indeed the supreme court does overturn roe. 17%, just 17% say they would be happy. compare that down with the 36% who say they would be angry. obviously those that would be angry a larger group, but look at how those groups are thinking about the 2022 midterms.
among the group that said they'd be happy if roe was overturned, 38% say they are extremely enthusiastic about voting in the midterms, but among that larger group, the group that says they would be angry if roe was overturned, only 20% consider themselves extremely enthusiastic about voting in the midterms so it is not yet clear that this is some big advantage for the democrats. obviously this is just the first look, when the court issues an actual opinion and lots of campaigns get mobilized around this issue, public opinion could certainly shift. david chalian, cnn washington. >> david, thank you. and former secretary of state and democratic presidential nominee hillary clinton giving a stark warning that if roe is overturned, it will only be the beginning and that more rights will be rolled back. here's what she told cbs. >> this opinion is dark.
it is incredibly dangerous, and it is not just about a woman's right to choose. it is about much more than that and any american who says look, i'm not a woman, this doesn't affect me. i'm not black that doesn't affect me, i'm not gay that doesn't affect me. once you allow this kind of extreme power to take hold, you have no idea who they will come for next. >> my next guest calls the possibility of roe versus wade being overturned both devastating and horrific. back in the 1960s before attorney gloria allred was a household name and before roe v. wade was the law of the land, she was raped at gunpoint, became pregnant and had a back alley abortion. she later represented norma mckor vee, the woman known to millions as jane roe. gloria allred joins me now. lovely to have you on, thanks for making time for us. we know that justice clarence thomas condemned the leak of this draft opinion saying that government institutions should
not be bullied. he also reiterated his past comments that justices are obligated to take a fresh look at established precedent. what is your response to that? >> well, it's very clear that abortion should be safe and legal and affordable and available and roe v. wade has been a precedent since 1973, affirmed later many times by the united states supreme court, and that is why it is called a super precedent, so they can take a fresh look, but they should not reverse. they should not strike down roe v. wade because the very lives and the health and the safety of women and girls are at risk if they do. you are correct, i had an abortion after being raped at gunpoint in mexico when i was in my 20s, and when i came back to california, i didn't realize
that abortion was a crime in california at that time, not for a woman to have it, but for a licensed health care provider like a doctor or nurse to perform it, and so that's why i went to someone who for money provided a back alley abortion, and as a result i had the abortion, was left in a bathtub hemorrhaging, almost dying in a pool of my own blood. you w ultimately fortunately an ambulance was called and i was taken to the hospital and packed in ice because of the 106 degree fever due to the infection from the back alley abortion and the nurse said to me i hope this teaches you a lesson, and of course she was anti-choice, but the lesson that i learned was not the lesson that she wanted. the lesson i learned was that abortion must be legal and safe and affordable and available.
and now i am seeing the world changing, the legal world and the lives of women placed at risk with this leaked draft opinion, the language of the opinion of the supreme court opinion may very well be changed somewhat, but i think ultimately in the next six weeks when we see the final opinion handed down it is likely to be that roe v. wade will be struck down. and so no longer will it be a constitutional right, and what that means is they're turning it back to the states. states that are outlawing abortion, half of them already either have laws that will either restrict or eliminate legal right to abortion or -- and then the other half of the states will keep it safe, keep it legal, and become haven states like california is going to be a sanctuary state, the complete opposite of what it was in the '60s, and we are now
proud of our state, and we are going to be a state that is going to help women come here to get abortions. but then we have on the other side, we have louisiana, and i've been saying for years that the anti-choice people often want a fertilized egg to have more rights than an adult woman, and this is exactly what we just saw happening in a bill in louisiana that would make abortion a murder. in other words, back to the moment there's a fertilized egg, not at 15 weeks, not at six weeks, but the moment there's a fertilized egg, if a woman or a girl decides to terminate the pregnancy she could be charged with murder. she could be prosecuted. she could be convicted, and she could be sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. that's how extreme the
anti-choice movement has become, and we are going to have rallies across this nation next saturday may 14th, i'm going to be at the rally at los angeles city hall. i will be one of the featured speakers, and we want everyone -- we want thousands of women to come, we want everyone in the nation to go to the rally in their state and make a difference because each one of you showing up will make a difference and then we're going to motivate everyone to go out and vote as though their life depends on it because it does. >> and i want to ask you gloria because you're in this unique position that you represented norma mccorvey, jane roe, we know that she expressed remorse at the end of her life, she switched sides and said she accepted money to be part of the antiabortion movement. how do you think she would react to this moment, and can you shed
some light a little bit on her? >> yes, because i did help her to have a voice. she wanted to speak out in favor of the right to choose legal abortion, and we did together do that for a number years, and then at a certain point she became anti-choice. she still maintained contact with me, however. we had a very cordial relationship because knowing that i'm pro-choice, i support a woman who chooses to have an abortion and a woman who chooses not to have an abortion, but i knew she was really not anti-choice, and she at the end of her life, you're correct, did give a death bed confession, so to speak, on tape in which she admitted she'd always been pro-choice. she really only became anti-choice, money to be an
anti-choice speaker. she needed it. i'm not going to criticize her. i don't criticize women. all i can say is i think now she would be marching with us, rallying with us in support of the right to choose abortion because you know, life is very complicated and difficult, and these anti-choice elected officials are making it more difficult. to show how cruel they are, they are willing in some states, there are no exceptions for rape or incest. if a child even wants to have an abortion, a 12-year-old, a 13-year-old who is made pregnant by her father, which is a crime, incest, she is being forced to carry that pregnancy to term and deliver. now, that is cruel. it's also dangerous to her health, and we are going to stand up for other people's daughters and their mothers and their sisters and their aunt, and they have the right to choose. it should not be a stranger
sitting in washington, an elected official or even in their own state who gets to decide for them. women should be trusted, and they are the ones who have a right to decide if they're going to have an abortion or not, and we are going to fight for this. it's important, and we are never going to stop until we win our rights again. >> all right, gloria allred, thanks so much for joining us this afternoon. >> thank you. still to come, a mystery in the bahamas, three americans on vacation found dead at a popular resort. what we're learning about that investigation, that's next. everybody be cool, alright? we've got bonnie right h here on a video call. we don't take kindly to video callsls. oh, in that case just tap to send a message. we don't't take kindly to messages neither. in that casese how 'bout a ringcentral phone call. we don't take kindly to no... would you can it eugene! let's just hear her out. ha ha ha, i've been needing a new horse. we've got ourselves a deal. ♪ ♪
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three americans have been found dead at a luxury resort in the bahamas. a fourth american, a woman, has been airlifted to a hospital in na nassau. officials aren't saying how the americans died but say foul play is not suspected. cnn's polo sandoval is following this for us this afternoon, and polo, if it's not foul play, are officials giving any indication of what might have caused the deaths? >> they're not at this point, jessica, so that really speaks to the bizarre nature of this story, much because of what we don't know. but also key here is what we do which as you point out based on a preliminary investigation is that there was no foul play involved in the death of these three americans in the bahamas. in fact, a lot of the information that's coming right now is from sandals resort that released a statement today. they're confirming the death of three of their guests, those deaths taking place in emerald bay resort yesterday. a health emergency was initially
reported and following their protocols they immediately alerted emergency medical professionals and relevant local authorities. sandals going on to write they are supporting both the investigation and the family members of these guests, but they could not disclose any more information. they said it's because of the priva privacy of their guests. there's a little more information coming from the acting prime minister that confirms there were two men and one woman that were discovered dead in villas at the resort. a fourth person apparently was injured in some way and is currently at a hospital, but again, not elaborating a lot more on that. so right now the key is obviously investigators are basically retracing the steps of these four individuals trying to get a better idea of the hours and perhaps days leading up to the discovery of those three individuals dead in villas at a resort in the bahamas, and a fourth person is currently hospitalized. >> polo sandoval for us, thanks for that reporting. >> coming up, europe is preparing to sanction more
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set to sanction putin's girlfriend. brian todd has that story. >> she's been linked romantically to vladimir putin for more than a decade, though he's always denied it. an early photograph of them together at the time she was a decorated gymnast shows putin looking infatuated with her. the eu appears set to level new sanctions on alina ka buy va. >> this is very personal, she is not only part of his inner circle, but she also probably holds a lot of money for putin. kabaeva late last month at a rare public appearance at a gymnastics event in moscow spoke out in support of putin's war in ukraine. >> translator: every family has a history of war and we shouldn't forget about it. we should hand it over from generation to generation. >> alina kabaeva has participated in a lot of propagandistic efforts to shore up the putin regime. >> kabaeva and putin have rarely
been seen in public together, but analysts say she and her family have gotten rich because of her close ties to the russian president. >> she spends much of her time overseas, even though she has lavish properties in russia to the tune of tens of millions of dollars. >> reporter: experts say targeting putin's purported girlfriend for sanctions is a cold eyed method of punishing the former kgb colonel for the ukraine invasion. >> one of the levers to make him feel some of the costs of this is to sanction those closest to him and american officials believe that she is very close indeed. >> reporter: putin's two adult daughters from his first marriage were sanctioned by the u.s. last month, a u.s. official confirmed their names are maria putina who alnd catarina tikanoa shown here speaking at an economic conference. both are believed to be in their mid-30s. >> we know they've traveled widely, especially in the west. we know one of them, catarina was married to russia's youngest
billionaire, and we know she also tried to pursue a career in acrobatic rock and roll. the other one, maria, we don't know quite as much about. we know she has pursued or pur purportedly pursued a career in medical sciences. >> last month "the wall street journal" reported that u.s. officials had debated whether to place american sanctions on her but held off out of concerns that so personal a strike at putin would escalate tensions even more. now that the eu could soon sanction kabaeva and the u.s. has already sanctioned putin's daughters. >> putin might take this personally and strike out more at ukraine and against the u.s. >> reporter: experts say there's also putin's ex-wife, the mother of maria and catarina who also may have accounts in other place where is putin is hiding his assets. one expert who tracks putin's finances says he doesn't believe she has been placed under any sanctions yet but that could be coming as the u.s. tries to ratchet up the personal pressure on vladimir putin. brian todd, cnn, washington.
>> thank you. first lady jill biden is in eastern europe this weekend meeting with ukrainian refugees. she visited a school in romania this morning and heard some heartbreaking stories from women and children who have fled the war in ukraine. this school in bucharest opened its doors to refugee students after putin's invasion began back in february. romania has so far taken in more than 850,000 ukrainians. cnn's kate bennett is joining me now live from slovakia, the first lady's next stop afro mania. how has jill biden been received on this first solo trip of hers to the region? >> reporter: well, she's really been received quite well. everyone here is very grateful to see her. now of course we're in slovakia where we're going to be headed closer to the border with ukraine tomorrow. earlier today we were in bucharest romania where the first lady really saw the traumatic side of putin's war, mothers and children trying to incorporate themselves, their world into a whole new
atmosphere, a whole new city. this is something that the first lady really focused on today. she focused on the mental health of children, the trauma they had been through, you know, new schools, new friends, new homes, things that are really going to have long lasting effects. she wanted to understand how romanians were taking care of their newest residents if you will. one 7-year-old girl in the classroom today drew something on her little hand card there that said i really just want to go home and see my father. she was from kyiv, another little girl said that she wished she could go home to odesa. of course we know the toll, we've seen the images of what ukraine is going through. a lot of these families, though, even though romanians have welcomed their homes and their hearts quite frankly to these refugees, they still want to go back home, and there are 7,000 ukrainians arriving per day still in romania, so the first lady wanted to have a hands on look at what's happening there. she met with the romanian first lady who's also a teacher, just
like dr. biden is, and she wanted to really feel the support that america has for ukraine and for romania for being a partner in taking in a lot of these refugees, and again, like i said tomorrow, we will be moving closer to the border with ukraine to see more refugees and spend mother's day with some very brave mothers who took their kids and had to flee the war of vladimir putin and ukraine. >> so many of those children having to bear the burden of that war on their small little shoulders. thanks so much for that reporting, we appreciate it. the taliban is putting new measures in place that further limit freedoms for women in afghanistan. according to a decree issued today, women must cover themselves head to toe including their faces whenever they appear in public. since taking control of afghanistan again, the taliban has banned women from traveling on their own and despite promises of a woman's right to an education, the ftaliban shut
down girls high schools in march on the day they were due to open. south korean and u.s. intelligence officials are analyzing a second north korean ballistic missile launch in less than a week. the short-range ballistic missile fired today reached an altitude of about 37 miles and a trajectory of more than 373 miles. that's according to south korean officials. it's north korea's 14th missile launch this year alone, and it comes just weeks after this military parade where north korean leader kim jong-un vowed to ramp up their development of nuclear arms. the south korean military says the repeated launches are, quote, threatening acts that must be immediately stopped. coming up, a massive explosion rocks a popular hotel in cuba killing more than two dozen people. that's a live look at it right now. we're going to talk about what went so horribly wrong when we come back.
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who was pulled from the rubble overnight. patrick ottoman joining me now from havana. any confirmation on what caused that explosion? >> reporter: well, the early word is as the investigation continues is that it was a gas leak. this hotel thankfully behind me was closed down, and we're just going to show you the extensive damage to this hotel, i asked the camera man to give you an image of the hotel as rescue operations continue, but as the hotel was being readied to reopen next week, they brought in a truck of gas, liquid gas that they were using to resupply the hotel, they use it to cook with here at the kitchen, and apparently a gas leak took place as they were transferring the gas from the truck into the kitchen into their tank there. it filled the hotel up with gas, and then you can see it just exploded out and showered rubble down on where i'm standing. that has been cleared now, and now they have started going
through each area of this hotel, what's left, looking for the remains of people. not a half an hour ago, jessica, we saw a body bag being taken out, and you could hear a pin drop here as all the rescue workers lined up, the cuban police stood at the ready and everyone just watched this body. the latest body to be found here taken out and put by stretcher into the back of an ambulance to be taken away and hopefully identified. so that remains the situation here. rescue workers hoping they will find someone alive, but it's been now about 14, 16 hours since they have actually pulled anyone alive out of this building. they say they remain hopeful, but all day long, this afternoon, we've heard reports of more bodies being taken out. we certainly expect by this evening there will be a new count, and you said that there are 32 confirmed dead. there are also 19 confirmed missing, and that is really the
concern here. behind me in the park there are family members waiting to get word. obviously you can just see the tension in their faces as they're hoping for some kind of miracle here, but in the last hours or so, all the news that's come from here unfortunately has been quite tragic. >> and such an agonizing time for those families. patrick oppmann for us live in havana, cuba, thanks so much. coming up, police find the getaway car in the hunt for a missing corrections officer and a murder suspect. so why do authorities say they're back at square one in the search? (young woman) two chocolate milkshakes, please. (grandmother) make it three. (y(young woman) three? (grandmother) did you get his number? (young woman) no, , grandma! grandma!! (grandmother) excusese me! (young woman vo) some relelationships get better with time. that's why i got a crosstrek. (avo) ninety-six percent of subaru vehicles sold in the last ten years are still on the road. (grandmother) i'm so glad you got a subaru. (young woman) i wonder who gave me the idea? (avo) love. it's what makes subaru, subaru.
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. you are live in the cnn newsroom. i'm jessica dean in washington, jim acosta is off today. we start with breaking news from ukraine, high casualties feared after a school in the eastern part of the country was bombed. ukraine says a russian aircraft dropped its payload on the school, which had 90 civilians sheltering inside. as we gather details on this latest attack, we also know it would not be the first time the russians have attacked a civilian shelter. they've been doing it for weeks in mariupol pinning hundreds of civilians below a steel plant, and just a few hours ago, we received some rare and welcome good news from that site.
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