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hundreds of civilians still stuck. >> the russians violated the promise of the troouuth and didt allow the evacuations. >> they have been absorbed by the education system in romania. new video of wanted corrections officer vicky white
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helping authorities piece together what happened before she helped casey white escape. >> they had been located in tennessee. the white house corning a covid wave could affect as many as 100 million americans. >> we're doing everything to prepare for that. : they confirmed three of their guests died while at the emerald bay resort. there's no foul play suspected. i'm pamela brown in washington. we begin this hour with breaking news out of ukraine and what erm reports describe as a catastrophic strike on defenseless civilians hiding in a school. ukrainian officials say a
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russian war plane bombed the school. that's in far eastern ukraine right now the russian border. some 90 people are believed to have been inside. nearly the entire village was taking shelter because the area is only about seven miles from the front lines. the story is breaking. details are skrujust coming in. we'll update you. scott, what is the latest on the school shelter strike? >> hey, pam. the information we have is according to the military, the head of the regional military administration of the region who says that the russians fought with unarmed civilians today when they dropped this bomb on the school in this small village in eastern ukraine. seven miles west of the front lines. 90 people are thought to have been taken shelter there. most of the other shelters had
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been bombed out or not available. 30 people are thought to have been pulled out of the rubble according to that official. judging by the pictures, it's amazing that anyone could have survived that, frankly. most every one had left the village. it's just the people remaining there who were taking shelter. the village is not far from fp the city names you might have heard of. there's been heavy fighting there recently as the russians try to push their way through the front lines. this strike will ring back memories of that theater bombing in mariupol in mid-march .
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a lot of people had got out. they were taken by train to western ukraine. 49 people, 8 children. not every one got out and the people left may well have been the victim of this bombing. >> just beyond awful. thank you so much, scott. if you've been following the story, they had -- huddled in ruins. ukrainian president said he's working to evacuate the military medics and the wounded next.
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he would like a dip emplomatic option to remove all of his military there. the second phase of the war may be more dangerous. >> he's in frame of mind in which he can afford he can't lose. i think he's convinced that doubling down still will enable him to make progress. >> let's bring in retired u.s. army major mike lions. you heard a few seconds ago, we heard cia director bill burns warning that putin is desperate and that the second phase of the war may be even more dangerous. do you agree with that assessment? >> good evening. thanks for having me. i do. i think the question is what does he mobilize? does he mobilize reserves coming from russia.
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these are poorly trained former conscripts that are driving cabs in moscow that might find themselves inside of ukraine, inside tank and a target for the ukraine military. i do think that he does feel it will be a more or less bring a lot of more troops to the battlefield because he's already committed about 660% of his forces and not had any success. when blowing bridges in retreat like that, you're not putting yourself in position to go on any counter offensive any time soon. maybe he will give up the battle in the east and refocus on some other way. we'll find out what he does. if he brings up more troops, we have to be concerned. >> if you look at it as a whole, just tonight russia dropped the bomb on a school filled with innocent civilians. ukraine says that russia has fired cruise missiles on the port city of odesa it's blown up bridges to stall a ukrainian
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counter offenses. when you look at the big picture, is this russia doubling downright now? >> that attack is really disgraceful. attacking with air just over the border of the russian military isn't flying. they don't dare fly deep into ukraine. they don't own the air space. i think the key will be maldova. i think we will pour equipment there. look to take the russian separatists in maldova. there's a small group there. likely use that as the umbrella to defend odesa. russia will attack it from the air with artillery and try to pound away with it like we have seen them do with these other cities and try to destroy. they must do everything to save that city. >> given the fight ahead of for
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the ukrainians, i'm going to ask you to take a look at this. $ $150 million in additional arms. jamming equipment as well as more field equipment and spare parts. is this the right equipment in your view or time to consider heavier military hardware? >> the heavier military hardware will come from the 20 billion package that the president has proposed to congress. let's hope that gets through. this will be very effective. the radar in particular counter battery, that's what it will take with regard to fighting russian artillery. we have seen they have an advantage right now not making sure the artillery is not coming back on that city. every sing m time russia fires an artillery round it has a return address and the kind of
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equipment we're sending will allow us to look for that artillery came from and fire back on it. they just have to coordinate all these fires. >> we're talking about everything the u.s. has sent to the ukrainiukrainians. on friday interview state department ned price. i asked if he's concerned that russia will view the u.s. as a co-combatant given all this help it's given like intelligence. >> i think the russians know we have been very clear. any effort to intimidate, to wage aggression against nato, against any nato ally would be met with a strong response. we're going to continue to do what we have found to be effective and more importantly, what our crew ukrainian partnere found to be effective. >> do you have concern russia will retaliate stronger against the u.s. for its role? >> i'd like to swhee that will
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be. the intelligence we're providing is the example of american hard and soft -- non-kinetic power to ukraine. there's so much information they are trying to sift through already. the drones are providing more information that's realtime. i think the intelligence we're providing is more tra strategic. it's more over view of things. those have easy footprints that can be picked out. they're likely going to go after these nato convoys across the border. i think they have to be concerned about those. they don't have a lot of success moving targets. they have to go after rail heads as well. if they strike out against the united states, i think that might be a bridge too far for russia. >> thank you very much. it's not just ukrainians fighting this cwar.
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we have the story of american who is have joined the fight. >> i saw on the news like everybody else, the atrocities that the russians were committing. that's the reason why i came. >> the two americans and a canadian who prefer we identify them by their nicknames tell me from their experiences with one particular unit, the ukrainian forces they have been fighting alongside on the front lines are ill equipped and cut off from resources. >> specifically nato munitions in terms of anti-trank weapons s well as artillery, tanks and even like vehicles, anything like that, it's nowhere in front. >> they have fought near kyiv and in the east where russian
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troops are streptengthened thei presence. >> massive columns on the main road, push them here. >> reporter: this video filmed by them shows the challenging terrain. >> it's just fields as far as the eye can see with nothing but open ground and next to zero concealment. >> reporter: a battleground without the right equipment can be deadly. the form er canadian armed forcs sergeant tells me. >> it's a miracle that we're still alive. you have to be a tank or artillery to fight now.
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congresswomen these former u.s. marines say they haven't seen. >> the stuff from these packages need to get to the front. >> we have guys coming up to us. where is nato's help. >> last month the pentagon said military gear and equipment was getting to ukraine between 24 and 48 hours after it was shipped. the u.s. was transferring it to ukrainian hands and not dictating how fast they get it to the front line or what unit gets them. these fighters had just one glimpse of one front line. they're not alone in thinking the ukraine's military remain out gunned. >> one side has nothing and it's doing everything they can and the other side has everything and they're too afraid to do
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anything with that. >> they're returning to front line. moved by ukraine's fighting spirit. >> the ukrainians are giving it their all. they're doing it every single day, every single minute, every single hour. >> shadow staying away from the front line learning he's going to be a father. they fight for freedom in a foreign land. >> cnn reached out to theukrain defense ministry. the claims that military aid is not reaching the front lines of the northeast of ukraine. we have yet to receive a response. defense secretary lloyd austin says the u.s. weapons being provided are being put to very good use. heads up in our exclusive
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interview coming up this hour. fda commissioner, i'll ask him about tainted baby formula and why he thinks misinformation is the biggest killer in america. also ahead, cnn has got new images of the patrol car vicky white was driving when she took a murder suspect from jail last week in alabama. mystery in paradise. how did three american tour is end up dead in the bahamas? first lady jill biden hearing the heartbreaking stories first hand as she meets with ukrainian refugees. you're in the cnn newsroom. everybody be cool, alright? we've got bonnie right here onon a video call. we don't take kindly to video calls. oh, in t that case just tap to send a message. we don't take kikindly to messages neither. in that case how 'bobout a ringcentral phone call. we don't take kindly to no... would you can it eugene! let's just hear her out. ha ha ha, i've been needing a new horse. we've got ourselves a deal. ♪ ♪
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in a shopping center parking lot. her jail key, radio and handcuffs were found inside. the two left the jail on friday, april 29th. vicky white said she was taking the murder suspect to a mental health evaluation. they have not been seen since. the sheriff talked about the second car they used but quickly abandoned. >> obviously, someone either assisted them or they stole a vehicle up in that area. i know they have been checking the see any stolen reports. i've not been advised of any stolen vehicle reports in that area that day or not. they either left on foot or someone had to give them a ride. at that time, the bolo from law enforcement had not been put out because we weren't aware at that time they were missing. >> u.s. marshals releasing this depiction of their height difference. he's 6'9".
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she is 5'5". quite the difference there. authorities are releasing images of what she could look like if she cut our dyed her hair. tips are coming in from all over the united states. today protesters across the u.s. rallied against the leaked supreme court draft opinion that would overturn roe v wade. here are some of the cities people marched through. atlanta, chicago and ft. worth, texas. washington, d.c. continues to be a major hot spot. activists have gathered for days outside the supreme court. an 8-foot tall metal fence was erected around it to keep people out. if the supreme court does over turn roe versus wade, abortion would be instantly banned in 13 states. this information c-- the states in the gold have what's called trigger bans. those are laws that would take
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effect the moment roe is over turned if that happens. oklahoma's governor signed a trigger bill into law just last month. >> these issues belong to states and other states may do things differently. in oklahoma, i represent all four million oklahomahans. they do not support abortions in the state of oklahoma. >> it's a different situation in these 16 state and the district of columbia in purple on this map. they have laws protecting abortion rights that would stand regardless of the supreme court's ruling. >> i think you've heard a lot about what's coming out of the supreme court and a preliminary ruling that looks like they may be on the edge of ending a woman's right to choose. that's not going to happen in the state of connecticut not as long as i'm here. no politicians will get between you and your doctor. you make the choice. >> i want to remind all
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californians, no matter what seeing in night liely news. >> we want to broaden out and give you a bigger picture. these countries in purple are different gestational limit bus abortion is legal. this includes most of the developed world including aust australia, canada, germany, italy and even china and russia. now in orange, these are the countries that have banned abortion. it is, as you can see much smaller list and it includes egypt, hondurhonduras, iraq and fphilippine philippines. only three countries have rolled back, nicarnicaragua, el salvadd poland. she said the roll back is where democracies have eroded.
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when the cdc ranked leading causing of death for 2020, they went like this, heart disease, cancer, covid-19, accidents, stroke. my next guest says something else is killing us. misinformation. he's commissioner of the food and drug administration. thank you so much for being here with us for our exclusive interview. why do you think misinformation is now the leading cause of death in the u.s.? >> first of all, thanks for having me on. i'm glad you're talking about such an important incredible topic. there's no way to quantify this. the numbers come out just like
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it would. let's look at it. we're in a country that's seeing an erosion in our life expectancy. we're living five years shorter than other high income countries. this is based on estimates but it's quite disturbing. let's look at the causes of death. as you correctly said, heart disease, cancer, covid, much of this is common chronic disease that we know a lot about. with covid, the situation is we know if you're vaccinated and up to date, you have a 90% reduction in the risk of death. then if you are unlucky enough to get infected or unfortunate enough, another 90% reduction would be antivirals that are now available.
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what has concerned me for a long time is we're seeing this reduction of life expectancy from common diseases like heart disease. i'm a cardiologist by training. we know what to do to prevent bad outcomes from heart disease but somehow the messages that the reliable truthful message are not getting across. it's being washed out by a lot of misinformation which is leading people to make bad choices that are unfortunate for their health. >> yeah. committed to the truth it's very concerning to see that. i want to ask about the fda pulling back emergency use authorization because of the rare blood clotting side effect of the johnson & johnson vaccine. should the use have been limited
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sooner. >> when the emergency use authorization was first granted, we didn't have the data that we have now. i don't think that's an issue. it's quite rare. if there's no other vaccine, this would be a great choice. it's a highly effective vaccine for this rare side effect. the other key fact is these comply kags oc-- complications early. they're in the clear and shouldn't worry about this. >> what we really should be worried about is getting the boosters that we need to stay up to date so with new variants that we have, we don't have unnecessary hospitalization. >> i want to talk to you about the boosters because that's on a
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lot of people's minds as well as we look to the future because the white house is predicting that the u.s. could see as many as 100 million covid cases this fall in the winter if congress doesn't agree on more funding to mitigate this spread. what do you think about that? do you share that dire prediction and given what we're hearing from the kwhwhite house who will need to be eligible for additional covid shots in the fall? >> i think a lot of people know we are seeing an up tick right now in the number of infections across the country. w there's a leg that usually occurs and so we're quite concerned about the summer particularly in the areas of the country where vaccinations rates are not so high. people are not so much up to date. in the fall and winter we're very concerned.
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most of the predictors, the people that make the predictions do anticipate that unless we do something, we'll see a significant surge in the winter. people are inside thand this is respiratory virus that's transmitted. a consideration is it might be t the same time as flu vaccine campaign that we have every year. the vaccine then and also recommend the covid vaccine. none of this is decided. >> we'll wait to hear more from the fda and whether a decision is made. i want to ask you about vaccines
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and young kids. moderna submitted the vaccines for kids under 6. dr. fauci said the fda might wait on pfizer's application for considering it for authorization. what is the time line for getting a covid vaccine for the youngest age group? >> well, i have two grand kids under age 6. i know about this in addition to my professional responsibilities. we're not going to hold out one vaccine for another. that's not in our plans. it's not complete yet. as soon as we're able to assess the safety and efficacy, we'll make a decision.
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families. i can't imagine being concerned about being able to feed my child. >> we're very concerned about it. it should be of concern for moms and dads and grandparents like me. i'll divide this into two categories. the use of it is up since the recall. the other manufacturers providing more supply. we understand there's regional variations that occur when you have a supply chain issue like this. it hapt been perfect .
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we're just getting new details on daabahamas. three americans found dead. a fourth american had to be air lifted to a hospital in nassau.
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do you have any updates? >> reporter: these were two american couples on vacation in the bahamas and now three people are dead and a fourth is hospitalized. i did speak to police commissioner with royal bahamas police asking if they have any indication to causes of death. he says at this poipt it's still too soon to say. autopsies feed to happen to determine that. they do have very key finding here so far. that is they have ruled out foul play. investigators have found no signs of any kind of trauma on those bodies. that's key. here is the background. investigators were called tout sandals as em erald bay resort after the staff discovered the body of man in one of their vil l -- villas and discovered two bodies in saa second villa. this police commissioner telling me that couple had complained
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about feeling nausea and vo vomiting the day before they were found dead. they were treated and septent b to their resort. a fourth person, a woman was found at the first villa. she is the one hospitalized now. in terms of what sandals has said, they released a statement writing a health issue was reported and following our protocols we alerted medical professionals and relevant local authorities. in terms of what's happening now, the commissioner telling me the u.s. embassy and nassau with the local tourism ministry working together with police to positively identify these three americans, reach out to their families and they hope they can proceed with the performing of those autopsies. that all will hopefully provide those crucial clues as they try to get a better idea of what
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