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missiles. truly incredible to watch. i was right there in the middle of the crowds. in the stands, right in the middle of red square watching this parade take place across the cobbles of red square in the center of the russian capital, listening to what vladimir putin had to say. we were all expecting him to make some kind of an important announcement about the military operation, as russia calls it, the special military operation, inside ukraine. but that did not happen. he praised, of course, the soldiers and the veterans who had fought in the second world war and defeated nazi germany. he attempted to draw parallels between the battle to defeat the nazis and the fight he's underly under way in ukraine. he's made that claim in the past. it's rejected by ukraine. and the allies, of course, the united states. he did not take the opportunity to make a formal declaration of war on ukraine. he did not announce a full
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mobilization of russian forces to bring more forces to bear on the -- on ukraine in the conflict in that country. and i think that was interesting because, you know, the expectation that he was going to say one of those things. and it sort of maybe gave the impression that, you know, vladimir putin is taking a step back. perhaps that's too strong. but at this point not doubling down on the military adventure his country has embarked on in the neighboring country, john. >> because the world was waiting to see what he would say, matthew. what should the world take from this? >> reporter: well, i mean, just that. that there was a degree of hesitation, it seems. perhaps i'm not choosing my words perfectly, but he didn't do what the -- many people had expected him to do. he did not double down on that military operation in ukraine. he didn't announce a formal declaration of war.
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but at the same time, there was nothing in that speech that i heard or in the parade or the soundings i took from the people standing around me that indicated russia was prepared to back down at this time. he still appears to have the support of the russian people. i spoke to a few people in the stands and they were talking about how proud they were to watch this pevent, it makes the proud to watch the troops march pass, the anthem play and watch the forces move past. but, you know, you didn't get the impression at that event at least, nor amongst other people i spoke to in russia, that the tide of public opinion has at this point turned against vladimir putin in his conflicts in ukraine. >> matthew chance, great reporting from moscow. thank you so much for that. the way from the pageantry and rhetoric in red square, the russian military is inflicting more pain and suffering on the ukrainian people. at least 60 are feared dead
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after ukraine says russia bombed a school that was sheltering civilians. a survivor told cnn how he escaped. >> translator: i got slammed down and then another explosion, small rocks sprinkled darkness. then i looked and the dust settled in a ray of light appeared. sergei crawled out and then dug me out, doug uncle and aunt out. we crawled all in a fog. >> joining us now, cnn senior global affairs analyst, bianna golodryga and max boot, sister fellow with the council on foreign relations and columnist at "the washington post." it's great to have you both here. you both are americans who were born in the former soviet union. so, beeianna watching, this was muted vladimir putin. what do you take from that? >> he was a bit more subdued.
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maybe our expectations were a bit too high as what we thought we would hear from him, declare official war, even though this war has been going on for two months. we saw fewer weapons displayed, no overhead flights. they said that was related to the weather. the weather was fine. so, you know, i think this was a sign of vladimir putin being isolated and being weak, i think, on the global stage. once again playing the victim here, saying we had no other choice but to go into ukraine. clearly, we know they invaded a sovereign nation. this is something he presented to his people. one can't overstate the significance of this event of may 9th, of what it means to russians, of people part of the soviet union. he was playing to that audience, saying this is going to be something we're going to continue to be fighting, to avoid ukraine invading russian territory. absurd for people around the world watching this. different for russians at home who have been watching state media, right, and following this
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propaganda for so long. >> sure. max, from a strategic standpoint, clearly vladimir putin at the very least wants that eastern land bridge. they have been meeting fierce resistance. not only is further escalation to ukraine apparently off the table, but putin's lack of a rhetoric of escalation indicates that, you know, this is not going militarily as he might like to convince the russian people it is. what is your read strategically about the facts on the ground? >> one good sign to me, john, is the fact he was not declaring total mobilization. he was not declaring war. he was not making nuclear threats against the west, which indicates that even though he often miscall culates, he is fundamentally rationale. he is trapped in a quagmire, he is trapped in a losing war effort. this is familiar to americans from our experience in vietnam or afghanistan or iraq. he got into a war under false
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pretenses, bad intelligence. now that he's trapped into it, he doesn't know how to get out because he can't simply say, we've been defeated and go home. he has to claim some kind of victory. what he's hoping for now is to seize more ukrainian land, perhaps along the sea of azov coast where he is on the verge of taking mariupol, even though those defenders continue to hold out. he would love to claim a victory in donbas. what's happening instead is the russians are getting weaker. their losses are catastrophic. they probably lost over 20,000 soldiers and probably over 600 tanks. these are devastating losses, the kind russia has not seen since the early days of world war ii. they're getting weaker. on the other side, the ukrainians are actually getting stronger. they're getting more tanks, more aircraft, more artillery that can outrage the russians right now. the balance is shifting against the russians. their offense in the east is running out of steam. i don't think putin knows what
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to do because he doesn't have any good options. that's why he didn't announce any new initiatives on victory day. >> it will likely be a frozen conflict for years to come. i think we're probably turning to a new phase within the next few weeks or months in this war. similar to what we've seen the past seven years in the donbas. remember, you always hear president zelenskyy say we have been at war. this isn't something that just started. this was a heightened war with vladimir putin thinking it would start two or three days, go in, change power in kyiv. that didn't happen. you see a president who is well aware of the losses that he's had both militarily in terms of equipment and troops on the ground, and what you're hearing from military experts is they are trying to be more cautious now, aware of the loss of human life there and aware that this is something that's going to go on for a long time. especially given the amount of western aid coming into ukraine now. >> i wonder, with putin not calling up more conscripts, he's
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not making an official declaration of war, does that diminish the chance that he will do that here in the near future, the fact he did not do that today? >> i think we had so many expectations about what would happen today and perhaps wrongly so, going back into the start of the war. of course, vladimir putin would have loved for this to look like a very different may 9th victory parade. instead, i think he's preparing the russians at home to say, once again, we are the victims here. this is not something just related to ukraine and russia. this is related to the west, right, trying to interfere with our success as a nation and, thus, suggesting to russians this is going to be something that's going to continue for months if not years, going into the future. and that this is something that they had no other choice but to do. we all know the truth. the question is, how long will russians continue to buy this narrative? i have a friend who i remember during the navalny days when navalny just returned and we saw the early signs of mass protests
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in the country. she was fighting with her parents in russia. she was going to protests. her parents were not. she was saying, why aren't you as outraged as i am? they said, we have food to put on the table and there is no war. there is a war right now and we'll see the impact on the economy soon. >> look at the side-by-side of zelenskyy and putin, and knowing zelenskyy knew exactly what this event was going to look like in red square, what is the message zelenskyy is sending? >> obviously, zelenskyy is sending a message of defiance and acting very much like a leader who is winning the war and has his whole population behind him. he is on the air every single night talking about the progress of the war effort, much as fdr did with his fireside chats. he is a leader who has genuine popularity in a country that is 100% mobilized against the russian invasion. whereas putin is a leader who still rules with lies and
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deceit, who cannot tell the truth about what is going on, who cannot grapple openly with the losses that russia has suffered and who continues propagating these lies about how russia is a victim. you know, claiming in his speech that ukraine was going to attack russia before the war, which is just so absurd. that's the kind of propaganda russians are fed. whereas, zelenskyy is truly a man of the people to quote the title of his own tv series that he made before becoming the actual leader of ukraine. and i think putin is an increasingly isolated and discredited tyrant. you know, he's grappling with the consequences of his horrific miscalculation in attacking ukraine and thinking that ukrainians would welcome the russian army with open arms. >> but the contrast could not be clearer. the pageantry, the military, nonsense in red square of the soviet era and then a lone
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arequest a. multiple states have passed severe restrictions on abortion access in advance of the supreme court's expected decision to overturn roe v. wade. joining us is laura jarrett. >> chances are in the last week you've heard about the dozen roughly states. these states have so-called trigger laws. in the meantime, a number of states have also advanced other laws to further cut back access to abortion. just last week tennessee governor bill lee signed a bill making it a felony for a manufacturer, supplier, pharmacy, physician or any other person to provide abortion drugs by mail. it's effective until about ten weeks into a pregnancy, which is why more red states have set their sights on it.
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it is the next frontier in this fight over abortion. the penalty for anyone who violates tennessee's law, a fine of up to $50,000 and 20 years in prison, though the patient provided with the drugs isn't supposed to face criminal charges. at least not yet. now, under the law, doctors are required to see patients in person before providing any drugs for abortion, and must inform the woman she, quote, may see the remains of the unborn child in the process of completing that abortion. louisiana lawmakers have gone a step further, advancing a bill that would classify abortions as homicides, potentially allowing women to, yes, be criminally charged for term mating their pregnancies. the law would redefine personhood to start from the moment of fertilization, essentially giving a fetus constitutional rights, at least more rights than the adult carrying that fetus. that bill now heads to the state's full house for consideration later this week. meanwhile, in arizona, republican governor doug doocy signed legislation that prohibits abortions after 15
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weeks of pregnancy. in other words, before the fetus is viable on its own. like all the laws we're talking about. doctors who violate the law may be prosecuted for a felony and could have their licenses revoked if convicted. that law offers no exceptions for cases of rape or incest, only medical emergency. in south dakota, meanwhile, governor signed a bill into law this past march that would make it incredibly difficult to get a medicated abortion. the bill requires women to make three separate trips to a doctor to receive the two pills necessary but the measure is tied up in litigation. oklahoma, meanwhile, has passed a near total ban on abortion. the only exceptions are in the case of medical emergencies. the law makes performing an abortion or attempting to perform the procedure a felony, punishable up to ten years if prison or $100,000 fine or both. in west virginia where abortion is already banned after 20 weeks, governor jim justice signed a bill in march known as
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the unborn child with a disability protection and education act, which bans anyone from seeking abortion because she knows her child will be born with a disability. according to the governor, the bill gives deserved respect to our down syndrome community. as you can see, the states have been very, very busy. >> they have, indeed, been very active. that level of detail is very helpful. thank you. take care. be well. we do have new details about what is happening behind the scenes at the supreme court and how chief justice john roberts appears to have failed in coming up with a compromise on the court's expected decision on roe versus wade that would win over some of the other conservative justices. with us now is washington post reporter robert barnes who has been covering the supreme court since 2006. great to have you on this morning. you have some excellent reporting. if you could just share it with us here. tell us about this divide between the conservative justices and this roberts' proposal the other conservatives do not appear to be interested in.
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>> the very fact justice alito is the one who wrote this leaked draft opinion would show that the chief justice isn't in charge of the assigning process in this opinion. the chief at oral arguments in the case in december seem to float a compromise that would say that it would remove the viability line, that is, that -- right now you can't have any prohibition on abortion before the viability, when the fetus would survive outside the womb. he seemed to offer a way to uphold roe in some manner, but to remove that line. there were no takers at the time of oral argument. and the way this leaked opinion has come out, it would indicate that the chief justice has not had any success so far in getting that compromise approved by the other conservatives on the court.
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>> so, tell us about how that kind of goes down. in december, roberts has this meeting with conservatives. and then how logistically does this trickle down to having this majority draft opinion? >>. >> well, when the court hears a case, it meets in private, takes tentative votes on the outcome of the case. if the chief justice is in the majority, then he assigns who's going to write the opinion or decides to write it himself. but if he is not, then the chief -- the most senior justice in the majority decides who's going to write the case. and so it appears the chief would like to have written this with the compromise he had in mind. instead, it seems that justice thomas, who is the longest serving member of the court, assigned this task to justice alito. now, there's a lot of horse
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trading between then and now. justices write opinions. sometimes they continue to keep a majority of the court. sometimes a justice reads it and says actually, you know, i can't go along with this. so we're now in this sort of period of negotiations, of draft writings. one thing we can be almost sure of is that the leak opinion that we have all read, which was dated february, is probably obsolete by now. it has been overtaken by new versions, by things that other justices want, by responding to dissents from it. so, we're still at the point where that writing is going on and these various versions are being traded among the justices. >> obsolete, but do you think the crux of it still holds? you do report the five conservatives aren't squishy in their positions and they still don't seem like they want to switch to the side of roberts. >> our reporting now is that
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this five has held steady, but there's a long time between the moment that opinion comes out, the chief justice in the past has been able to find sort of outcomes that we didn't expect. he's found ways to very narrowly decide cases that could draw a majority. i think it would be tougher for him in this case to find that. >> robert barnes, thank you for sharing your reporting with us. we appreciate it. >> thank you for having me. still ahead, the latest in the mysterious deaths of three american tourists at a bahamas resort. and did he or didn't he? >> let me remind you again, i reduced the federal deficit. i reduced it $350 billion in my first year in office. >> we'll take a look at the facts. that's ahead.
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investigating the death of three americans at a sandals resort on friday. one man was found first and then the couple. no trauma was found on the bodies and foul play is not suspected. let's bring in our reporter. >> the head of the police are telling me, these were two american couples vacations in the bahamas and three people are dead and the fourth woman is currently recovering at a hospital in miami. early friday morning investigators were called out to sandals resort on great exuma island. apparently an unconscious man was found in it the villas and a woman in the villa was too actually air lifted to a neardy by hospital, transferred to a miami hospital over the weekend. the man in the villa was pronounced dead at the scene. a second villa, the second couple was located. the man seemed to be slumped against a wall while a woman unconscious on the bed, both
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pronounced dead at the scene. here is where investigators are trying to figure out what went down. according to the police, the couple found in the second villa had been complaining about vomiting and feeling nauseous the day before. they even sought treatment at a local medical facility. according to investigators, they were treated and allowed to return to their hotel, when they were found the next day. that's a crucial clue. very key early finding in this, john, is the bodies had no sign of trauma. they've been able to rule out the possibility of foul play. also in my conversations with authorities in the ba mhamas, there's an investigative process. not until they identify the dead that a pathologist can complete the autopsy that the police commissioner tells me will be key in trying to figure out what happens here. sandals resort released a statement saying they're cooperating with the investigation, helping authorities and also helping the families of those affected. so far, health officials are
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looking into this. they're calling this an isolated incident but looking into it to make sure it wasn't a broader medical emergency, especially a place frequented by tourists. >> and not just one couple. this is a real mystery. we'll be coming back for more. thank you, polo. is a recession the only way to tame rising inflation? well, a major bank is warning that this morning. plus, new exclusive cnn reporting reveals just how much information a far right extremist group is sharing with january 6th investigators. ♪ limu emu ♪ and doug. ♪ harp plays ♪ only two things are forever: love and liberty mutual customizing your car r insurance, so you only pay for what you need. (emu squawks) if anyone objects to this marriage, speak now or forever hold your peace. (emu squawks) (the crowd gasps) no, kevin, no! not today.
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president biden is claiming success, touting his ability to reduce the federal budget deficit and cut annual spending. here's what the president said last week. >> let me remind you again, i've reduced the federal deficit. all the talk about the deficit from our republican friends, i love it. i reduced it $350 billion.
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in my first year in office. and we're on track to reduce it by the end of september by another $1.5 trillion, the largest drop ever. >> cnn reporter, fact-checker in chief, has the latest. >> there is no doubt the deficit has fallen under president biden so far. it was about $3.1 trillion under president trump in fiscal 2020. it was $360 billion lower than that, so about $2.8 trillion in fiscal 2021, mostly under president biden. even with that $360 billion decline, experts i spoke to still scoffed at the idea that president biden is personally responsible for having reduced the deficit. in fact, one advocate of deficit reduction, mark goldwein told me this claim is almost bizarro world, reversal of reality. why? because the deficit was expected to fall by more than $360
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billion at the time president biden took office. in fact, at the time, the nonpartisan congressional budget office projected the deficit would fall by more than $870 billion in 2021 if president biden did not implement new policy. then president biden came in, like most presidents, did new policy. there's $1.9 trillion pandemic relief bill. there was a bigbie partisan infrastructure bill, expansion of food stamp benefits. whatever you think of all those policies, they all cost money. there ended up being less deficit reduction than expected. president biden likes to cite a certain economic research firm, moody's analytics. here's what senior analyst at moody's told me, the actions of administration and congress have undoubtedly resulted in higher deficits, not smaller ones. it's encouraging the administration has started initiatives to bring down the deficit but so far none of those initiatives have been seriously considered. if president biden's actions have made the deficit higher than it otherwise would be, how
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has the deficit still fallen at all under president biden from the end of the trump era? because pandemic spending. it was scheduled to expire and it has expired. there was an explosion of short-term spending and tax revenue collapsed because the economy collapsed. because a lot of the 2020 spending was short-term, the deficit was almost certainly going to fall in the coming years no matter who was president. again, it did end up falling in 2021. again, it was by less than expected. when president biden talks about a projected $1.5 trillion decline in the deficit this year, even if that happens, the deficit would still be higher this year than initially projected when he took office. >> president biden has also taken aim at republicans over the deficit, right? he actually claimed last year that the deficit rose every single year under president trump, even before the pandemic. is that accurate? >> that part is absolutely correct. now, it is true the deficit, as
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i said, exploded, more than tripled during the pandemic but it was rising sharply under trump in large part because of his major tax cuts. in 2015 and 2016 under president obama it was $485 billion. under trump it kept going up. so, yes, we should be skeptical of president biden's own deficit boasts, but it's not like president trump and republicans have some sort of high ground here. >> daniel dale, as always, thank you for making sense of it all. >> thank you. president biden will deliver a speech tomorrow on inflation. as his administration looks to further address one of the biggest concerns for voters ahead of the november midterm elections. a cnn poll last week found eight in ten u.s. adults felt the federal government wasn't doing enough to combat inflation. joining us is former chairman of council of economic advisers
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under president trump. i want to get your take on this note from the bank of england warning it would take a deep recession to stop inflation. do you think that's the case? >> i think, sadly, it is the case. you know, if daniel, who just did the fact-check were in my graduate program, i'd give him an "a." i thought that was really well done. the flip side of what he was saying is that because all the covid relief is suddenly disappearing that there's a really, really big decline in disposable income for americans who were getting relief checks last year but they're not this year. in fact, real disposable income is down about 20% relative to what it was a year ago because of all the checks we're mailing out because of the stimulus that, again, for the most part, i supported. that's like a really, really big headwind for the economy. first quarter gdp was negative. and the fed is tightening. and, you know, i don't know. you and i are starting to become old timers. when is the last time looking
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like you're almost in recession, the bank of england saying maybe there's a big recession coming to curb inflation and the fed was tightening. it's a very unusual circumstance. it's a perilous one. i think it's unavoidable for a recession. >> you laid out a policy double-blind. you're saying because the stimulus payments are tapering off, people are suffering, less disposable income but you say the stimulus payments led to the inflationary environment. what's the right policy course? if you were on the fed today, what would you recommend? what would you do? >> well, i'd be doing what the fed's doing, maybe a little quicker. you know, sometimes you have to rip the band-aid off. inflation is really out of control. it's probably right now running at double digit rates. you know, looking forward, the 8.5% rate you remember from the last headline number was looking back over a year. so, the fed needs to act really
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aggressively. i think congress needs to act as well. this is the part that's just politically impossible. it's very easy -- going back to when daniel and my graduate class, we would say what the fiscal policy has to do is balance itself in the long run, so they need to reform the entitlements, give people who buy our bonds confident that we're solvent in the long run. that requires bipartisan work that's not going to happen this year. absent that, i think what's going to happen is fiscal policy is not going to help monetary policy and we're likely to have a recession. i think we could be in one right now. in fact, i ran the numbers. 94% of the time when you had a quarter as bad as our first quarter, it ended up being in a recession or at the start of a recession since world war ii 94% of the time. >> 94% of the time the first quarter would indicate, despite other quite strong numbers about job growth, that we are heading for trouble. you say congress not going to do the things that need to be done in a bipartisan way to do it.
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put on your old white house hat. let's put country before party. what would you advise president biden to say tomorrow in his speech on inflation? >> yeah. you know, i think that inflation is very much out of control. it's out of control because there was all this demand created by stimuli. some dated back to the previous administration. president biden's team has done a lot to squash supply. their climate change person was out bragging about putting out 100 new regs ask appliances. with the new regs, they won't be making new alliances. he needs to refocus on supply, small business sentiments is as low since world war ii. i think because the government is intervening in their lives again. he should focus on getting supply and that will help us with inflation. that would be a big change in policy but not unheard of for
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democrats. jack kennedy, bill clinton. if he adopted the more moderate kennedy/clinton tone, he could revive supply and have an effect on inflation. >> i want to talk about gas prices because that's driving a lot of inflation. it's a global market. when you look at the war in russia, russia's war on ukraine, does that tell you that higher gas prices are here to stay? what could be done to bring them down, do you think? >> well, what will happen is suppliers around the world will see high prices, make more money and increase supply. >> they're doing that. >> that takes a little bit of time. yes, i think that in the end, like a year from now, that there will be enough new supply on line that even if russia isn't selling oil to the rest of the world, prices won't be completely out of control. the adjustment period is pretty big. if you're used to getting russian oil, then your refineries are used to refining oil. if you get oil from somewhere
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else, your refinery doesn't work. we're in that painful process right now. for finished products like gasoline, that's actually the most -- the biggest effect because, again, refineries can't switch from oil to oil without having to do a lot of retooling. >> kevin, thank you very much as always. >> thanks, guys. just in -- ukraine says it's alarmed by russian forces crossing a major river in the east after the russians built a bridge that could help attack ukrainian supply routes. and next, we'll be joined by the jockey who pulled off this come-from-behind win at the kentucky derby. >> the longest shot has won the kentucky derby! rich strike has done it! through our grow up p great initiative. and now, we're providing billions of dollars for affordrdable home lending programs... as part of 88 billioion to suppt underserved communities...
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s sonny, you look very chill right now. are you the only person in america who is not surprised or are you also surprised by what happened? >> wow, i'm surprised. i'm still surprised. >> how did you do it? i mean, this is unbelievable race. i mean, you're hanging behind, you move your horse to the rail, you kind of zigzagged through the other horses. it's unbelievable what you were able to accomplish. how did you see the openings? >> wow. i'm in the mood right now, but i know this is real. wow, wow. i'll let you know about the race. >> sonny, did you have an idea that he could do this, even though the odds were against him? >> i didn't have an idea he can win the derby, he could win the derby, the kentucky derby.
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but i had a very good feeling with him and i know -- but i didn't expect that. he did it. wow, unbelievable. >> were racing this horse. he got brought on as a fill-in just a few days before. you had been racing in ohio. what was it like to just achieve that in your career, for the horse and yourself? i mean, my god, that's all your dreams coming real in one moment. what does that feel like? >> wow, that's -- first time in my career, i win the grade one stake. first time in my career i rode the kentucky derby. we got the kentucky derby, man, wow. >> you sure did. >> so, you thought that rich strike could come in the top ten, but you didn't know that he could win. what was your -- >> yeah.
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>> -- approach coming out of the gate? what was your strategy, sonny? >> well, my plan was -- the plan we did it last time when we rode, so keeping calm, relax. we had a very, very bad first 20. wow, that was the worst in the kentucky derby. 20, wow. you have 19 horses inside to you. but, you know, they were so fast out of the gate. that can work for me, you know, i can go down so quickly, see and try to stay on the ground. i had a very good view behind them because i know they were very fast. i say, wow, i got it.
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i got to drive this horse to winning. but i never expect. that's the plan but you never know what's going on in the race. >> of course not. calm, concentration, you held back, saw your opening and, man, you took it. this is just a weird detail. nothing takes away from what you accomplished, but after the race, i understand that someone else punched your horse. what happened? >> well, my horse after the race, you know, he was excited. he's a top horse. he was -- wow, i cannot explain that. he was happy, too, you know. this is an animal. this is a race horse. wow. he was very, very -- you know, very tough. >> so what is happening there? we see the video. it rich strike kind of nipping at the escort horse, is that what is going on and the escort guide is kind of shoving him
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off? is there another way to deal with it? >> yeah. you know, my horse had tried to bite him a few times, tried to bite the horse, tried to bite his rein. my horse was so crazy, you know, we had a lot of people around, you know, a lot of screaming. you know, i think the pony he tried to do a little touch with the horse because we got to do sometimes because they are animals, you know. everybody knows that. so especially in a big race like this, you know. >> yeah, the video you see more than the still pictures. oh, no, did we just lose sonny? oh, we lost his window. we offline are going to send him our congratulations. >> yes, we are. >> what an amazing win, john avlon. he just finds out at the last minute another horse is out, rich strike is in.
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