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race. and. >> unbelievable is right. rich strike also got a little for nipping at another horse after the race. he thinks he was just excited after the race. i know one person who bet $2 on the race. so now they are $160 richer. there you go. our top story, with no victory to declare, putin blames the west, defends his unprovoked invasion ukraine which has now killed thousands. >> the prop began did on poda o display this morning. vladimir putin leaving the victory day ceremonies, but not really declaring victory saying it's nato to blame for threats
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next to our borders. in ukraine this weekend, relenltless russian shelling, dozens now feared dead after a school where at least 90 people were said to be sheltering was bombed. in the southwest, russian forces firing several missiles into the odesa resquon. >> and we have new heartbreaking video out of mariupol. the city council says this video shows more mass graves. cnn able to independently verify who took this video and when. however, this is part of a broader pattern, civilian suffering and mass graves following. president zelenskyy delivered his own victory speech today sounding confident that his country will win this war. >> we are fighting for our children's freedom. and therefore, we will win. we will never forget what our an sets sorts did in world war ii which killed 8 million ukrainians. there thereby two victory days in ukraine and someone won't
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have any. >> the u.s. ambassador to the u.n. is now weighing in. reacting to pooutsen's speech for the first time in an exclusive interview with kentucky low atwood. she joins us live from brussels. how did the ambassador take putin's words today? >> reporter: she said that president putin's speech today indicates he recognizes that he has no victory to celebrate. she said this comes as president putin is reassessing what is happening on the ground in ukraine and looking to consolidate his gains militarily, but not looking to take on new territory. she also made it clear his speech today was not announcing a withdrawal of russian troops from ukraine. he also was not announcing any sort of deal with the ukra ukrainians. and therefore, it's not something that the u.s. welcomed, but it didn't actually change much on the ground. listen to what she said.
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>> president putin has recognized he has no victory to celebrate. his efforts in ukraine have not succeeded. he was not able go into ukraine and bring them to their knees in a few days and vsurrender. he has moved to reassess his positioning in ukraine. so there was no victory to celebrate. there was no reason for him to either declare victory or declare a war that he has already been carrying on for more than two months. >> what does today signal about the current state of this conflict? >> i think the conflict is not over for sure. and what it signals is that putin will continue to move forward. he didn't announce a withdrawal.
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he didn't announce any new deals with the ukrainians. so i suspect and we have all assessed that this could be a long-term conflict that can carry on for additional months. what we want to do is support the ukrainians' ability to defend themselves, but also give them more power about the negotiating table to negotiate with the russians once they get to real negotiations. f f fpz. >> reporter: she shed light on her interactions with russian diplomats at the united nations. she has to meet with those diplomats at the united nations security council regularly. she said it is clear to her that they are uncomfortable, they are reading from prepared remarks more than they used to. she said the permanent representative of russia to the
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united nations is less often in his seat now than he was previous to the beginning of the war. >> thanks so much. let's turn to senior international correspondent matthew chance, who was at the parade in moscow this morning. there are strict laws, as we know, in place right now. restricting what journalists in russia can say. what can you tell us about p putin's speech and the reaction there this morning? >> you're right. there are strict laws. i can tell you i was right in the middle of the square when this happened. watching the 11,000 troops march in step across the cobbles of red square followed by a really impressive, quite speck tack already display of hardware. you get that every year. tanks, armored personnel ca carrier, even those intercon innocent tall ballistic missiles, which are terrifying to see them trundle pass in the
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way they do. there was meant to be an air show involving 77 aircraft, one for every year since the end of the second world war. this is victory day to commemorate the end of the second world war. that didn't happen because of the bad weather, according to the kremlin. so there was a smaller parade than was anticipated. and it didn't meet expectations in other ways as well because there was a lot of anticipation that this was going to be the dramatic backdrop for some kind of major announcement on the conflict in ukraine. possibly a full declaration of war. russia calls it special military operation. possibly a full mobilization of of russian forces. so they can bolster their armies and really bring some power to bear in what is admittedly some kind of stuttering military campaign that's taking place in ukraine. but none of that happened.
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he didn't make any of those remarks. and actually looking back on the years that i have covered this kind of parade, and there's been lots of them, he didn't tend to make policy statements on a day that is perceived as being so sacred to the russian people and to the russian leadership. but his problem is still there. he still has to decide what to do in the conflict, whether he's going to back down or double down. so i expect that that decision will be and we'll hear about it soon. >> we'll be watching for that. appreciate it so much. thank you. for more on putin's mind set, strategy, dangers going forward, we're joined by jill dougherty. great to have you on. i know you were watching putin's comments in the whole pomp and circumstance today closely. as you pointed out, putin did use today to emphasize a narrative change in terms of this war from not just being
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russia against ukraine, but russia against the west and nato. as you listened to him today and you hear other officials make the same kind of framing here, do you fear an expongs of this war? is an expansion more likely today than it was a never of weeks ago? >> i'm not quite sure about expansion, but continuation no question. this is not mission accomplished. it's not over. it was more the pep talk for the russian people to say remember world war ii, as they call it the great war for the fatherland. that we accomplished something and it was difficult, but we did it and we can do it again. that is kind of a bumper stick er now in russia. so i think what really struck me was this almost image of russia as a victim.
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there was a lot of nato made us do it. nato was going to attack. ukraine was going to -- this was all in quotes because this was not the case ukraine was going to develop nuclear weapons. and this was absolutely unavoidable. we had to ourselves. i felt this almost weaker position. we won world war ii, but here we had to do it. so i thought it was a relatively weak statement that from what i expected and the other thing that i think was really important was he admitted that there are russian troops who are dying. he gave no numbers, but he immediately said this sacrifice is always difficult when we lose somebody that i as president have made this announcement that we're going to help the families of the people who have been affected by this, especially the children. that, i think, is really significant.
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that's telling the russian people, i know there are boys who are coming back. but he could never say that. and he can say i'm going to help those families. >> do you think any of that is a reaction to perhaps a shift among the russian people in terms of not only how they feel about this war, but in terms of what the chatter is in russia and how support looks for putin? >> it's really hard to judge that because you know the polling is just at this point really can't trust what people say because they cannot express themselves the way maybe they would want to. but there are some indications that from oligarch who criticizes it, interestingly, an ambassador or a member of the ambassador staff in scotland tweeting against it. there are these little signs that it's really kind of before
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at this point as to what's going on. but this is still relatively early. this is the third month. but sanctions are really going to kick in in may, the end of may, it's expected. and then more people sadly will die. and that could have one of the strongest effects. >> great to have you. thank you. coming up next, i speak with the congressman of nebraska, republican, about how he thinks the u.s. should be dealing with the russian invasion and the russian president. and how more the u.s. can support ukraine going ahead. also ahead this hour, what we learned about the deaths of american tourists at a popular resort in the bahamas. and a bit later why some veterans of world war ii say what they are seeing now in ukraine reminds thesm of the horrors they experience decades ago. their stories later this hour. should be something that gets you hyped up.
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with a record number of americans quitting their jobs in the midst of a hot job market, some are troying to attract and retain workers with better wfts and more flexibility. >> cnn traveled to a plant in recent nebraska now offering some incentives to fill those jobs. >> tell me about the job market here in lincoln. >> everyone is hiring.
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>> reporter: working parents like jessica kelly have their pick of jobs here. what jessica wants is a job that pays her bills and doesn't get in the way of a normal wednesday morning. 7:30, daughter number one off to a student council meeting. 7:45, back home for daughter number two. and another school drop off. >> the sunrise is beautiful this morning. >> reporter: 8:00 finally time for coffee. >> i can't be somewhere at 7:00 a.m. to start working or even 8:00 a.m. unless if i made other arrangements. >> reporter: she's had lots of jobs. >> i worked at a garden center. i worked at dillards. i was there for nine years. i was a manager there. it was a pretty decent salary and i was working quite a lot of hours though. nights and weekends. they are my kids and i just want to be there for them. >> reporter: this single mom may have found the job she's looking for thanks to this economic
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to create a new assembly line with a new shift because it has to balance and work together. >> reporter: no evenings, no weekends. steady hours. >> what job did you have before this job? >> i was working in a deli. >> i have two other jobs. >> reporter: it's a big change for these people. >> it wasn't a lot of part-time employees here before. >> none really until a few months ago. >> when you heard that was happening, what were you thinking? >> a little apprehension. just because it's something totally new. you wonder how it's going to work, if it's going to work. >> what have you learned? >> i learned that there's a few that don't take it as seriously. but more do than i thought would. >> reporter: this is a time of low unemployment across the country. and in lincoln, employment experts say those numbers have given workers as cross the country and across job sectors power to ask for what they want.
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>> employees are loorking for anything they can do to attract and retain tall ent whether that's paid working conditions and flexibility in work shifts are a big part of that. >> you see that stretching into the future. >> if businesses have to make hard choice, those businesses that can try to protect jobs increase thanksgiving people skills, increase their people's well being will be better positioned as the economy turns. >> reporter: some workers on the line in lincoln say they are definitely better positioned. >> i can go from here and school and pick them up. >> we saw two things right away. the people who we hired were successful. they come to work, do their job, learn and then in turn train other people. >> that's the bell. that's it. >> when you hear that bell, what goes through your mind? >> we started something new we started something that's helping people be successful with their families. >> this story is about where we are right now and what might be
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coming next. right now, the job market is so hot that workers at the factory level have the option of asking for what they expect and can expect employers to give them that. the challenges are trying to cool the economy down and change that job market. and whether jobs like these remain after that is anybody's guess really. >> but what an incredible model. as a working parent, the idea that you could find this job that not only pays you well, but fits in with your schedule and that your employers recognize that, that could be a game changer. >> that's the big challenge. if kawasaki might want to keep these people working there, they have to keep those jobs on no matter what happens with the market. >> thank you. still to come here, investigators looking close ly t the stores in alabama corrections officer visited before she disappeared with a prisoner. an expert will weigh in on what would colt pelt someone to help an inmate escape.
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we are learning new details about the actions of a corrections officer in the days before she helped a murder suspect escape from an alabama detension center. now the two with the same last name but not related were last seen on april 29th. investigators are still trying to figure out how exactly the
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escape was planned. >> there's video of her shopping for men's clothing. at sth th point, that video is not helpful for the investigation, but we do know that based on the video that this was a well-planned, well-calculated escape. that vicky white was behind it all. >> well planned and well c calculated. joining me is the former chief of psychology services at the federal correctional institute of miami. it's great to have you with us this morning. when you hear it's well planned and well calculated, by all accounts, vicky white was a model employee, a reliable person. 20 years as a corrections officer. a lot of people look at this and go, how kuld anything like this happen? how could she be involved? but there you are shaking your head. is this more common than people realize? >> good morning. unfortunate lirks it's very
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common. every situation has at least one compromised staff member at any given point in time. it is very common despite the training that is offered by most institutions it still happens. >> why is it so common? >> i think it just boils down to interactions of two human beings and one of them who is out to exploit the other. specifically to this case where it's a man and a woman and apparently a very strong romantic involvement from what i have heard, i haven't rattle waited either one, it seems as if i phenomena i like to call deceitful by vulnerabilities and fantasies took place. and what i mean by that is that inmates will go to different staff members look ing for the
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one that is most empathetic to their needs and their desires. and once they establish a, quote, unquote, professional working relationship with that member and that staff member begins to feel comfortable with the inmate, the inmate might start pressuring that staff member for a few more favors and pressing the pound ris a little bit more. if the staff member says no and denies those requests, that inmate will most likely not go seeking other staff members who will be more able to grant them requests. if during that fishing expedition, they come across somebody having a bad day for whatever reason and that person is a little bit more vulnerable emotionally than most of the time, the inmate picks up on it and begins to develop a fantasy that that inmate can resolve all their problems. is it a financial issue that you're having, i can take care
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to have. if you're having problems with other people in the institution, i can take care of it for you. >> here we are talking to you about what happens. it's this fascinating role reversal the way you lay it out. maybe it was a little extra to do or other items. how does it escalate though? is there a typical playbook to going from just a little bit of extra food, a little extra attention to now being on the run? >> in this particular case, this is unusual. this is an unusual case. most of the time, the staff member, once they feel or recognize they have been compromised, they will acquiesce to the demands, but begrudgingly. look at joyce mitchell in new york. at the last minute, she becomed down. that's usually what happens. they feel bad about it.
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particular ly when it's the safety of the institution at play. in this case, ms. white took a very active role. and that have very unusual. extremely unusual. and i would just say it's a matter of fantasy that she's policing out. and what role is she playing in this fantasy. >> it will be interesting to see if more clues pop up in the coming days. i believe it's 11 days now since they disappeared. appreciate your unsight. thanks for joining us. just a note ahead here on cnn, the sheriff of lauderdale county will join cnn live in the next hour. stay with us for that. a new cnn poll shows that 80% of americans think the government could be doing more to fight inflation. we're going to speak about the state of the economy as well as other issues including ukraine with don bacon, , coming up.
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bath fitter. visit to book your free consultation. the painful realities ukrainians are seeing day in and day out are producing painful flashbacks for some. >> veterans of world war ii who never thought they would live to see something like this again now fear it could get even worse. sara sidner is laif in kyiv with that story. >> reporter: he helped battle back the german advance in world war ii when ukraine was part of the soviet uniton. his proudest moments helping
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liberate moariupol. we liberated them in 1933. we went with three warships and wrecked 11 german ships. 77 years after victory day, he has mixed feelings about russia. it pains him to say it, but the country he once fought for has turned into the enemy. leveling the very same city he fought so hard to save from hitler's onslaught. for all of us who went through the war at the time, it hurts. i want to take up arms now and go to defend the same places and by country he says. his wife cannot contain herself as she listens to him and lashes out at the man she sees as responsible for the new war, vladimir putin. there shouldn't be anything like him on earth, she says. he kills, destroys our cities
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and villages. he destroys our defenseless people. on the anniversary of victory day, there are no celebrations here. only memories. it's no long er a holiday. it's very difficult, he says. there aren't many of us left. but he's still here. the 96-year-old world wort ii veteran did you want have to remember the terror of war. he's beenen given fresh memories. russian tanks blasted a hole in the front of his home in the treeline suburb of warsaw. he fought as a soviet against the germans, but has never had any love for the soviets after he says he was jailed for speaking up against them. i was awarded medals and orders for victory, but i did not recognize them and never wore them, he says. he says putin's russia has started a war it cannot win.
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it's an atrocity, it's vandalism, probably the leadership is stupid. only idiots would do this, start a war against ukraine. both men say they have the will to fight again, if not with their bodies, then with their words. why am i spieling? we believe we will rebuild this house and that ukraine will win. both of these veterans said they hope the rest of the world is watching and will do more to help ukraine be victorious. >> sara sidner in kyiv, thank you so much. the white house has announced a slew of new sa sanctions against russia after president biden and other leaders met virtually with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. also $33 billion in military aid on the table. joining me is don bay con of nebraska, he is a retired general and sits on the armed
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services committee. good to have you on back on the show. >> it's nice to be on with you. s. >> so you have argued that president biden has not been bold enough yet in u.s. support for ukraine. as you know, there's $33 billion in new aid on the table proposed by this administration, both military and humanitarian. multiples of of what we saw in the trump administration, what specifically do you believe the biden administration is not doing to help ukraine defend itself? >> i would say that $33 billion changes that toll that i gave you before. leading up to that, it's always been a little late. probably not the right quality of weapons, but i think we're there now. i think my critique goes back to december until about now. i would agree the president is being bold with the $33 billion now. some of the areas i thought we could have been quicker on, long range capabilities, antishipping capabilities, which we're starting to see.
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also the ability to have tanks behind the lines, which we're now seeing this wall. so to get to your point, i thought we could have done more in the months past. but i think we're in the right spot now. you'll have to stand up to the bully later in poland or the baltics and i think ukraine is through a hell of a fight, but they need our help weapons wise to do it. but they are beating the russians with our weapons and we're going to have to serve. that's been my view. i think we have the policy about right now. >> opinions change. a rare quality in washington to admit that one when it happens. i want to ask you when you hear putin today with the victory day speech and other russian officials begin to describe this as a war not just in ukraine, but against nato, are you concerned about an expansion beyond the borders of ukraine and in conflict?
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>> he's trying to bully nato and america by threatening nuclear weapons, trying to enlaurge the war. he's losing. and he's a cornered rat right now in ukraine because he's losing. he doesn't know how to bail himself out. the fact is we have to be honest. this is an unprovoked attack. it's war crimes. over 100,000 innocent ukrainians have been murdered. we can't back down. i don't think we should have troops in ukraine or nato. but we're doing the right thing by helping ukraine defend itself and putin is trying to threaten to have his way. but if we back down here, he will threaten us again. he will bully us again. so we have to stand up to him, but we don't want nuclear war. he's threatening that. i worry about his mental capacity and emotional stability here. it should be a concern. but backing down just feeds the animal. >> back to the domestic issue
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here. inflation number one in the minds of republican and de democratic voters. 80% of americans think not enough is being done here. if republicans win back control of congress in the fall and you are up for reelection yourself here, what specific steps would you take to lower inflation? as you know, a lot of the pressures are coming outside of the country. they are difficult for an administration to buy itself change that day unanimousic. what steps would a republican congress take? >> this is down to some of the outside pressures have exacerbated. it wasn't the root cause. when you look back in march of 2021, larry summers, who was the treasury secretary for president clinton, also the cheief economc adviser for president obama, if we pass that $1.9 trillion so-called covid bill of 9% went to covid, that it would trigger inflation. and so we added 10% to the
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liquidity of our national economy. if you add 10% more money, by definition, it's going to lower the value of the u.s. dollar by 10%. today we're at 8.5% inflation. larry summers was right. so was other economists who warned us that we were going to have this inflation. so the new cost of the inflation has been access spending with no offsets. now granted the supply chain is exacerbated it. and also the energy has kpaser by theed it. the president when he campaigned, he said he was going to declare war against the american fossil fuel industry. he went from a net exporter to now a net importer. he has had an impact on our fuel crisis as well. he's doing the right things now, trying to expand leases and talking about nuclear power, the natural gas industry, that should have been done a year ago in my view. so to answer your question directly, we have to cut this
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reckless spending and we need to expand americans' energy production. >> let me ask you about abortion. you said laws should be made at the state level. about 26 states who might very well ban it. do you believe if republicans support a been on abortion they must also support the child and mother after birth. for instance, mitt romney unveiled a proposal of $350 monthly payment for each child under 6. do you believe that that support for an abortion ban must be coupled by republicans with then support to follow for mother and child? >> first, i appreciate your acknowledging that. if roe v. wade is overturned, it does loef it to the states and it doesn't automatically restrict abortion. each state gets to make that decision. voters get to have a say now through their elected state offi officials. and i for one have always been a proponent for lock at how to take care of the welfare of our
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children. i was a foster parent. i'm in charge of the foster care caucus in congress with the republicans. i want to protect and take care of our children who are born. i want to make sure they have good education. ultimately, it takes strong families to raise our kids. but we should couple this with programs that encourage adoption, help take care of kids that are in poverty, good schools, good nutrition, so i would agree with that. >> let me ask you about politics. there's a primary tomorrow. one of the key questions in this race is the race for governor. you have charles endorsed by the former president, but accused of groping multiple women. who do you support in the governor's race? >> i stayed quiet on who i was voting for. i was a bit undecided until this past week. i was leaning towards one
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candidate. but our team, i'm a in a district that favors republicans by 1%. it's one of the most purple districts in the country our supporters are divided between supporters. so i want to keep our team together and support our nominee, whoever that may be. so that's where i've been on that. it's been a spirited race. i don't really -- i think the negative messaging has had a bad impact on it. but hopefully could unify when we come out of it. >> let's look ahead to 2024. mritt romney said trump of is going to be the republican norminee. you stood up to trump. you voted to certify the 2020 election. you contradicted his claims of a stolen election. you recognized biden as the president. trump has called you a bad guy. would you support trump if he's the nominee in 2024? >> we'll cross that bridge when
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we get there if he happens to be the nominee. in our district, he lost our district by 7%. and i won our district by 5%. and i think my take away is people support most of president trump's policies. it was more the temperament and the name calling that hurt us in the suburban areas. so we need conservative policies work and that's what we should be focused on. frankly, we should be more focused on 2022 to ensure that we have a check and balance in the house right now. so i put my emphasis on went back to the house and the senate. i think there were joe biden to come more to the middle. he has not done that really. when he won the georgia seats, he went with the farther left policy. i think we're going to have more consensus and middle of the road policies. so my emphasis is on 2022.
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we'll cross that bridge when we get there. >> congressman, thank you for coming back on the show. >> thank you. up next, new details on what caused the taets of three americans at a popular sandals resort in n the bahamas. message, or video, all in the same app. oh... hey bonnie, i didn't see you therere. ♪ ringcentral ♪ ♪ ♪ scotts turf builder triple action kills weeds, prevents crabgrass, and feeds your lawn. all three, in just one bag. i like that. scotts turf builder triple action. it's lawn season let's get to the yd. wealth is breaking ground on your biggest project yet.
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police are investigating the
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mysterious deaths of three americans all the a hotel in the bahamas. >> it happened at the sandals resort on a forty person, a woman we learned is now hospitalized in miami. after being transferred from a bo ham yan hospital. we have been following this. what more do we know about these deaths? >> this story is not just puzzling. it's heartbreaking. authorities are saying these are two american couples on vacation. and now three people are dead and the fourth person is currently recovering in a hospital. it was early friday morning when the staff at that resort called authorities after an unconscious monowas found in one of their villas. that woman that is in the hospital also in the villa. however that gentleman was pronounced dead at the scene. that's when they found the other couple sadly they also were pronounced dead at the scene. but this is one of the key pieces of evidence. or at least a key clue according to them. that second couple had reported
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feeling nauseous, vomiting, even to the ekxtent they turned to a clinic for treatment and allowed to return back to accommodations the day before they were locationed. so so far they ruled out possible signs of foul play. they are expecting to release the identities of these three americans and then also hopefully when that autopsy will happen, it will provide more clues. >> maybe answers to so many questions. thank you. thank you to all of you for joining us. >> stay tuned. more coverage after this quick break. an expedia member, you can instantly start saving on your travels.. so you can go and see all those lemons, for leless. (vo) every business, big or small, coast to coast, needs internet that can keep up with its demands. verizon has fast, reliable internet solutions
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hello, everyone. i'm bianna golodryga. we begin with vladimir putin defending russia's presence in ukraine. marking victory day where a large display of military might in an address from the square. the russian loader is trying to claim the west is preparing to invade the country. putin did not use his speech to announce any new war plans. the kremlin says it cancelled a plan military flyover blaming bad weather. let's begin with matthew chance in moscow. we want to remind viewers that russia introduced strict laws regardin


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