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troops. nighting inflation, the worst in 40 years, along with record gas prices, brpresident biden on the defensive. >> look, i know you've got to be frustrated. i know. i can taste it. frustrated by high prices by gridlocking congress. >> i want to get right to cnn's john king at the magic wall for tonight's election results. john, hello once again to you. what can you tell us about the race for west virginia's second congressional district. >> a win for alex mooney, and that's a win for donald trump. so these two districts drawn together right across here, the northern part of west virginia, alex mooney had the trump endorsement, getting 54% of the vote. mckinley had the endorsement of the republican governor, backing of senator manchin, getting 36% of the vote. if you round that up right now, what does this mean? in this state donald trump obviously carried west virginia
by a huge margin over joe biden. his endorsement meaning much more. the defeat for bipartisanship, in a sense that assume republicans take the house. david mckinley is a conservative, wu he voted for the biden bipartisan infrastructure bill, saying it was good politics because it was good policy for the people back home. trump disagreed. alex mooney disagreed. mckinley will be a former congressman come january. >> and nebraska? >> let me pull out here and get you to nebraska. trump's streak of endorse ck candidates and getting victories in the primaries so far this year may come to an end. this is donald trump's candidate. charles herbster, at 28 #% when you round that up. still counting votes here, if you look at it right now, when we talked earlier, brent lindstrom was in the lead, he was a state senator, over here, omaha, all of the counties he's winning in the eastern part of the state, 60% of the state
population lives right here, but jim pillen is running it up in these other counties, a businessman, a farmer, the endorsed candidate of the current republican governor, governor ricketts endorsed him. he has the backing of the republican -- up to 33%, to 29% and 28 if you round that up. but pillen has been running it up here. it's fascinating to look at it. if you do the math. douglas county, 30% of the population lives here, omaha, douglas county. lindstrom was running it up big here, when you move away, we've seen it so many times in the republican primaries, trump usually benefits. and out to the smaller, rural counties, not a ton of votes, but wins the county here and gets a few votes back. wins with fewer people here. in the smaller, rural counties, it's pillen, not herbster, right now, winning more of those as you go through. still counting votes but the establishment candidate ahead, 6600 votes at the moment, don, if this holds up.
that would be the first trump endorsed candidate to lose in a major primary this season. nine women have come forward to accuse mr. herbster of touching them inappropriately. denies the allegations, trump has dismissed them, but nine women have said that, that could be the factor in his running third at the moment. >> john king at the magic wall, john, thank you. >> thank you. let's turn now to vladimir putin's war in ukraine. russian forces come barding the key port city of odessa with hypersonic missiles, sara sidner is following the story from kyiv tonight. hello, sara, what are you lerping about the attacks on odessa? >> there are three hypersonic missiles that hit odessa, didn't hit anything to do with anything that was a military installation, these were all soft targets, two of them hotels one of them a large shopping mall. the destruction really terrible there as the city tries to clean up from that and tries to stay safe. this has been a place that has
gone from being bombarded to having a lull, and people coming out trying to do regular folk stuff, and then having to go back into their homes as more missiles have fallen. these hypersonic missiles, traveling five times faster than the speed of sound, they are extremely dangerous, and people have been trying to figure out just when this is all going to stop. but right now this is part of putin's plan, it appears, to try to push further in to ukraine, this is a very important city, it's strategically important, economically, for ukraine, because it is a port city. a city in which they rely on getting goods to and from europe. it is particularly important for ukraine, but also for russia to try and stop ukraine from being able to use this strategic city. so you are seeing it bombarded again and again, just a few days ago, it was hit with missiles, six missiles to be act, and so
this city is seeing war happening on and off since the beginning of this war. in the eastern part of the country, this is where russia is really trying to clamp down, and put a lot of its troops in play, but make no mistake, russia is also hoping to be able to recapture some of the areas that ukraine has been able to fight, and hold onto, don. >> right on, sara. listen, it's amazing to me that 70 some odd days into this, that president zelenskyy comes out with a new message every night. he's out with a new message saying the forces are making major gains, can you tell us? >> yeah, kharkiv has been bombarded. at night, it is eerie. it is dark, there are no lights but there are people patrolling, and this is one of those places in the eastern part of the country that ukrainian forces have fought extremely hard to hold onto.
it is an important city. it is the second largest city in ukraine, and it is an important city not only strategically, but also because of the size of the city and the way in which -- where it is located. we should also mention, though, that because it is important and another push for russia, they are sending about 500 some odd more troops to that area that ukraine is going to have to deal with, but at the moment ukraine is very proud of the fight, its resilience there, they have been able to hold onto that key city at this time in the eastern part of the country, don. >> sara sidner, thank you so much. up next, more sound from lindsey graham, criticizing the then president on january 6th. the passenger with absolutely no flying experience who landed a plane when the pilot was incapacitated. we'll bring in the audio from
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so new audio tonight from senator lindsey graham on january 6th right after the capital was attacked comes from "new york times" reporters jonathan martin and alex burns. listen. >> actually come out of this -- moments like this reset, take a while, people will calm down. people are like i don't want to be associated with that. this is a group within a group. what this does, there will be a rallying effect for a while in the country that says we're better than this.
and biden will be maybe the best person to have, right? i mean, how bad can you get at joe biden? >> how mad can you get at joe biden? let's talk with alice stewart, thanks so much. >> hello. >> kirsten in the aftermath of january 6th. lindsey graham saying joe biden is going to be the best person to have for this country, that's coming from a republican and lindsey graham, no doubt. why weren't we hearing that message publicly? >> well, that seems to be the million dollar question that we have to keep asking ourselves, why there was -- were so many conversations that were being had, and views that were being expressed, not on camera, per se, but sort of behind the scenes, and then, you know, well i just want to back up and also just one thing i noted about that is to say that what he
said, what lindsey graham said actually was what anybody would have thought in history basically up to that point in time, right, until the trump era, that would be the natural reaction to think that this would have a sort of -- you know, it would backfire and that people would rally together, and joe biden would be good at it. he was still in that mode, and then obviously got in touch with trump, or somebody else, and realized, oh, we don't think that way anymore. so that -- i'm going to have to override my conscience, and my common sense, and i'm going to have to now completely change my story, and act like the democrats are insane for thinking that something horrible happened on january 6th. >> alice, here's more now from senator graham talking about donald trump at that rally on january 6th. >> misjudged passion, when he plays the tv game, and he went too far. that rally didn't help, talking
about primarying. he created a sense of revenge. >> that sense of revenge lindsey graham is talking about, isn't that part of the big gop playbook with trump at the helm and who he's endorsing? >> with some people. don, clearly what we're seeing with each new audiotape that jonathan martin and alexander burns are sort of the congressional confessional with members that they say what they truly feel with them, yet when they come out in public, there's a different slant to it. and i tend to really agree with a lot of what lindsey graham said privately at the very beginning. he should not have wanted to be associated with this. this is not reflective of the gop. donald trump misread the people, and this was not a good thing for the republican party, it's not a good thing for our country. i wish that his statements that he made in private at that time were the ones he has said since
then. what it has done. it has created division within the party, and a type of revenge by people that have spoken up, and unfortunately the former president decided to not listen to the advice of those who told him to stop this insurrection, and instead take revenge on those who criticized it. that's unfortunate. >> alice, the people who criticized it then, though, have all come back around to trump, though, i mean -- >> exactly. and that's unfortunate. i disagree with that, don, i've said on this show, a million times, i believe we had a free and fair election. i don't think that donald trump was the duly elected president, and i have criticized the insurrection from the very beginning. i wish more republicans would have seen that, the problem with it on january 6th, and every day since then, but for some reason they want to continue to support what they see as language that
will curry favor with donald trump. >> you know, kirsten, this is all significant because trump could be running again in 2024. that's what it looks like he's setting himself up for. i want to take you to what david gergen said about that potential race between trump and biden. here it is. >> the very idea that in 2024 we may have two men running against each other, biden and trump, who would both be in their 80s if elected, that, too, is enough to say, well, what are we doing here? you shouldn't be 80 # years old running a country. >> does he have a point? >> you know, i don't really agree with him, you know, david's 80 #, and i think he's very smart and very on top of things, despite the fact that he claims he's slowing down. i've yet to really notice that. so, you know, i think that the people chose, you know, the people that they chose, and joe biden ran against a lot of other
people who were younger, that's not who the voters want. the voters wanted somebody who had his experience. and so -- and i do think actually he has been a good president for this time in a lot of ways in terms of a person who has, you know, i think, the right temperament, and the right ability, i think, to the extent that anything bipartisan ever got done, you know, he was able to do something like that. so, you know, it's just a terrible time to be president. but i would never will somebody out just for their age. you know, like i said, people have the opportunity to vote for younger people in the primaries, on both sides, you know, my objections to donald trump really don't have anything to do with his age. >> yeah, i mean, alice, i know you want to weigh in but it doesn't look like anybody's going to -- on the standard bearer. >> david gergen is brilliant when it comes to presidential politics. i take his word as gospel on many things. but in this instance, age is not
the issue. agenda is the issue. and when we're talking about president biden, i tend to look at the agenda that he has set forth for this country, which has led us to record inflation, high crime, crisis at the border, and failed foreign policy. the agenda of joe biden is many of an issue than his age. i've said before, it's his temperament that's more of an issue with me, than his age. >> i wish more people, especially on the right, would be talking policy the way you're talking about it, agenda, that's the normal way that we usually talk politics in this country. thank you both, appreciate it. >> thanks, don. >> thank you. this is an amazing story, a pilot in florida, incapacitated, while flying a private plane. get this, one of the passengers with no flying experience takes over, lands the plane safely, you've got to hear this, watch this. >> you just witnessed a couple passengegers land that plane.
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that congress needs to help him, so what's the answer? what can be done? >> there's not a ton that the executive branch, or even congress can do to get inflation down, this is primarily the fed's main tool for doing this, exercising, that's raising interest rates, there are some things, however, that biden should have been doing, i would argue long ago that would have been helpful, at least a little bit, things like repealing some of the trump era tariffs, there was the study that came out of the peterson institute not that long ago that found that, again, it wouldn't reduce all of the run-up of inflation that we've seen, but it would knock one or two percentage points off of that enormous spike in inflation we've seen recently, things like getting our backlogged terrible bureaucracy within the u.s. legal immigration system functional again. we're short about 2 million immigrants, relative to the number who would have term f
normally arrived, had we not had the pandemic, and a bunch of trump policies as well, and labor shortages are among the reasons why there are these sharp inflationary pressures, there are some things the administration could be doing. it's sort of belatedly realizing some of this, i think, biden talked today about how the administration is considering for example repealing some of the trump china tariffs. but to be honest i think for too long they were sort of in denial about the problem and were doing some window dressing kind of actions that were not terribly effective at doing what they could have done, again, which is limited to get price pressures under control. >> all right, well let's talk about gas prices, jumping to record highs. biden called it the putin price hike. is the pain in the pump all because of the war in ukraine, not really, right? >> it's not entirely. that has made things worse, absolutely, that has made things
worse because it means that demand was already high. a large supply of global oil was effectively taken off the market, that's russian oil, either because of the sanctions or because of voluntary decisions by companies and governments to no longer purchase that oil. that's driving prices up. but if you look at the longer term trend in gas prices, it was obviously rising. many of us remember there were lots of stories back in, you know, earlier in the winter, late fall, about rising gas prices. and that's a function of a bunch of complicated factors, including that demand is really strong. the world is reopening. economies are reopening. supply was constrained by opec as well as a lot of u.s. producers, who were -- had kind of like lost their shirts, basically, in 2020, when oil briefly went negative. they're much more risk averse about ramping up production today. there were a lot of complicated factors that are not bad biden policies, to be clear, that were
pushing up prices. there were things he could have been doing on the margin to make things better, even if he wasn't responsible for the initial run-up in gas prices. >> someone tweeted, so gas prices, yes, they are seriously high here in sweden. we don't blame our prime minister or biden. get a grip on reality. is that -- is there some truth to that, or no? >> well, it's a global market. so yes, it is the case that energy prices around the world are high, they're definitely higher than they were at the deepest, darkest depths of the pandemic recession, here, and around the world. again, that's partly because we've gotten really unlucky with a series of supply shocks including this war, which obviously has other more important tragic consequences, but here in the united states, you know, again, demand is strong. there are some things that biden could be doing on the margin, like, you know, maybe he could encourage a little bit more entry right now, from suppliers,
or if they could ramp up their production by leasing more rigs or whatever, if he suggests, look, going forward, we're going to guarantee some minimum price, those kinds of policy actions would have a lot of political risks because no politician wants to say that we are guaranteeing amin mum amount of demand or price or profits or whatever for the energy industry. but yeah, these are global factors that have been driving up prices, here in the united states we choose to blame the president incorrectly, i think, for those global factors, maybe it's different elsewhere in the world but there's a long tradition in the united states of blaming or crediting the u.s. president for things that are beyond his control. >> the buck stops here, right, with the leader. look, and gas prices, they hurt, if you're stopping at a gas station and you're paying for the gas, you're hurting, and if you're driving by, everybody's head cranes to see the price of the gas at that particular gas station. so it's bad.
thank you very much, katherine, i appreciate it. >> thank you. okay, everyone, so this is a pretty incredible story. a passenger with no flying experience at all safely landing a plane today at palm beach international airport, that's after the pilot became incapacitated. listen to what the passenger told air traffic control. >> i've got a serious situation here, my pilot is gone. incoherent. i have no idea how to fly the airplane, but -- >> roger, what's your position? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. >> what was the situation with the pilot? >> he is incoherent, he is out. >> 311 delta roger, try to hold the wings level and see if you can start descending for me, push forward on the controls and descend at a very slow rate.
>> can you imagine, seriously? okay, yeah, i'll do that. check out this video, obtained by w -- there it is right there, wpbf. that is a plane landing, the faa is investigating the incident, the condition of the pilot is unknown. so let's bring in now cnn safety analyst and former faa safety inspector david seussy. david, hi. >> hi, don. >> this is incredible. i mean, zero flying experience, successfully landing a plane. >> and listen how calm he is. yeah, i've got a serious situation. my pilot is incapacitated. no idea where i'm at. it's incredible. >> this is, again, the video obtained by wpbf. what do you think of the landing? >> it's actually pretty darn good. this is the kind of thing you cena movie, don, and i don't -- i honestly don't have any personal experience with this ever happening before that i'm aware of, where someone with completely no experience figures
out how to land an airplane, how does that happen? video games, i have no idea. >> it's funny you mention that, because when i first started teaching my son how to fly, he was 15, and he took off perfectly, and he made and executed a perfect 60 # second turn, and came all the way around and came out the other end and i'm like, have you done this before? and he's like, yeah, it's like flight simulator, dad, no big deal. >> who knows? maybe they'll step forward and we'll get an interview and we can talk to them. some reporter down in florida will get it, hopefully. >> i would love to pat that guy on the back. >> i'm going to play the audio of air traffic control talking to other planes. >> he just witnessed a couple passengers land that plane. they did a great job. >> did you say the passengers landed the airplane? >> that's correct. >> oh, my gosh, great job. >> no flying experience. we've got a controller that worked them down. flight instructor. >> that man couldn't even turn on the navigation screen. are you surprised this didn't go
terribly wrong? >> oh, it sure -- >> maybe it's because he wasn't looking at the trumt instruments and he was listening to them, and so he could pay attention to what was in front of him instead of looking at the instruments. >> you could tell the guy coaching him was a flight instructor at some time. he just said, look, all you've got to do is keep your wings level. look at the horizon. keep your wings level and start a slow decent. first thing he did was push too hard and he's trying to get out of the sky so he's going to have to figure that out. that's the hardest thing with teaching people to fly is that in between, learning how to not overreact to things. i don't know -- did they find out if the pilot is okay? >> it's just coming in. but i want to know, though, why wasn't there another pilot on board? why wasn't there a co-pilot? >> well, that's pretty common. it's a private plane. he wasn't under charter or anything like that. that aircraft is a prop
airplane, which is considered a sophisticated airplane, but it's not a twin engine, the. >> single engine cessna 208 when the pilot had a possible -- >> 208 #, okay. >> possible medical emergency. >> wow. >> the condition of the pilot is unknown when last cnn checked. >> okay. >> yeah. >> yeah, we'll have to follow up on that. that was -- that's incredible. i'd like to meet that guy. that was incredible to be able to do that. >> i've got to tell you, that is my worst nightmare on an airplane. but thank you, david, we'll listen to it as we go to break. we appreciate it, we'll see you soon. >> thanks, don. >> bye. >> i've got a serious situation here, my pilot is gone. incoherent. i have no idea how to fly the airplane, but i'm -- >> what's your position? >> i have no idea. i have no idea. >> what was the situation with
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the cdc saying the united states has recorded the highest rate of gun related deaths in a quarter century and the pandemic likely is a big factor in pushing up the number of murders and suicide where guns were used. and let's discuss now. executive director of the university of chicago crime lab, in education lab. thank you both for joining us. rosanna, i'm going to start with you, terrible news, a record number of gun deaths in 2020, 35% increase in homicides from 2019 to 2020. i mean, this was the first year of the pandemic, what happened to cause this surge? >> well, you know, unfortunately, even before the pandemic, the united states really had an uncon -- high rate of gun vierns, we were not starting in a good place, and then you take a once in a century pandemic, and then combined with a lot of crisis or
legitimacy of government following the murder of george floyd and it really contributed to really pulling the rug out from underneath many, many communities, and unfortunately in a country with 400 million guns in circulation, that is fuel to the fire. it's unfortunate, and very tragic, and preventable. >> darren, what are the big factors? >> the pandemic was huge. whenever we have issues such as a pandemic, the socioeconomically impoverished communities suffer the most. they have the least amount of services but i also believe the police need to change the trajectory, how they interject gun violence. we need a qualitative perspective. what's the cause? what's the policing community relationship that's driving that neighborhood in connection with this gun violence? a battle that's won is a war
that's never fought. if we can -- i'm a proponent of not locking people up in possession of guns. >> i think people are wondering, how do you link the pandemic with gun violence? that's what the study is doing. can either of you answer that? >> a lot of it has to do with essential services had a moratorium placed on them based on the pandemic. when you have socially economic impoverished communities. they didn't have certain things. in addition to that, police were stretched super thin dealing with other things. i'm a firm proponent, we can't arrest our way out of a situation, when we look at all of these different components, that's what exacerbated and caused this manifestation in gun violence. >> weighing in on this, we've been through so much anger and outrage, when you talk about the road rage and people fighting on airplanes, our ability to have a civilized considered interactions with each other in
public spaces permanently damaged, is that part of the problem here? >> well, certainly one would hope not. it certainly doesn't have to be that way. i do want to sort of acknowledge that the whole world went through the pandemic, only the united states is suffering this rate of gun violence. so i think the pandemic certainly added a lot of stress into communities, and the mental health impacts that it had, the cdc has been putting out a number of different reports, each and every one of them is heartbreaking and really need to get us galvanized around how we can change this trajectory. the increase in gun violence we experienced in the united states, i think the pandemic really did stress out the underresourced communities. at the same time we pulled the rug out from underneath these very same communities. it's not as though we had a robust social safety net to begin with before the pandemic, but what little was there got really torn away. at the same time that we really saw this crisis of legitimacy in
policing, and the little trust that communities did have got torn away all together. so when you add all of those things together, you really, you see the unfortunate outcomes that we're experiencing now, and, you know, there are things that can be done, it doesn't have to be this way. i think there's tremendous promise in investing in those very same communities. but in ways that are very targeted and data driven so that we are focusing the resources, where they can do the most good, both in terms of community responses to prevent and reduce the violence, but also to improving the quality, fairness, and effectiveness of policing. it's a both and, and not an either/or. you pointed to the level of discourse we're having right now, and i think unfortunately we're pitting one against the other. it's an either/or, and really these communities and our country needed to be a both/and. i think that there are -- i think if people have hope, if people see opportunities and a
future, i think that they, you know, can engage much more constructively in their communities. >> she brings up a very good point. other countries have -- the whole world went through this pandemic. the united states seemed to be the one that suffered the most when it comes to gun related deaths is that because of -- she mentioned the proliferation of guns in america, and on our streets? >> that's a huge part of it. we have more guns in america than human beings. we have 360 million human beings in the united states, but we have over 400 million guns in this country. that's a problem. but in addition to that, the real issue is the distrust between police and the communities of color. so somehow we need to mend the fences. that's where that qualitative piece comes in. which is essential. when you have cooperation between the police and the community, then you'll be able to effective interdict a lot of -- if the members in the community can join and provide law enforcement with that necessary intelligence, then
we'll be more willing and able to eradicate the gun violence that's plaguing these communities of color. >> darren, thank you, rosanna, thank you very much. vigil held for ronald green, the family waiting for justice three years after his death in louisiana state police custody. that story is next. so they only pay for what they need. woooooooooooooo... we are not getting youou a helicopter. only pay for what yoyou need. ♪liliberty, liberty, liberty. liberty.♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ introducing the all-new infiniti qx60. take on your wild world in style. ♪
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died in police custody. if it wasn't for video, would they ever know why he died? cnn's josh campbell is covering this story. i must warn you, the video is very disturbing. >> reporter: this rural road is where ronald green took his last breath three years ago today. you can still see some of the damage left behind by his car. witnesses said he took out one of these mail boxes before his car went air born eventually landing just beyond that speed limit sign in front of that driveway. the official report from officers, green died in that car crash. for years, it was what the family believed. >> we were told he died as a result of a car crash. >> how it's unfolded has been just gut wrenching. >> reporter: the video shows
green repeatedly tazed, kicked and violently dragged while in hand cuffs. he died while in police custody. more than a year went by since the incident before louisiana state police kevin reeves opened an internal investigation. one officer involved in his arrest that night, died in an accident after learning he was going to be fired. audio leaked where it can be heard of him telling what he did to green. >> i beat the ever-living [ bleep ] out of him, choked him and everything tried to get him under control. >> reporter: the senior officer who pull up on the scene faced no disciplinary charges after he initially was accused of hiding body cam footage.
he retired from his position as head of the state police. in february, a select committee was created to probe a possible coverup in green's death after news broke that reeves had informed him of the event of that night hour after his death. he said eventually after he was briefed that green died after a chase, he stayed quiet on the case because of the pending investigation but has since called the incident criminal and racist. in march, reeves testified in front of the special committee and denied all claims of a coverup. >> despite a vehicle chase where mr. green did not yield to sirens and lights, he continued until he lost control of his vehicle and crashed. >> reporter: but on thursday, pages released from his journal show otherwise. he wrote about video issued involving the in-custody death,
realized there was a problem, must address immediately. the whistle blower in the case, a former louisiana state frooper was fired after he accused colleagues of murder sks and an alleged coverup. >> a man's life was taken away from his family by troopers in uniform, by troopers in a uniform just like me. it just so happened it was a man that looks like me and my family members. i can't go home at the end of the day and sleep well knowing the details of this case, knowing that state police in my eyes have taken it a step further from the normal retaliation and discrimination. we're dealing with murder. >> john bellton say he's waiting for the full file before he can hand down any indictments. >> i promised the family that i would suggest this. i have never wavered from that, and i will not. >> ronald green's mother says
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