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...and hbo max! just say “watchathon” into your voice remote to add a channel or streaming service. hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. here is what we are watching at this hour. inflation remains painfully high. a new report though shows some signs of easing. what can the white house do to really turn things around? and prolonged war. that is what american top spy chief said putin is ready for. this morning though, ukraine claiming several victories against the russians. and an unbelievable landing. a passenger forced to land the plane when his pilot becomes incapa incapacitated. the incredible story of how it
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all happened. that's ahead. thank you for being here. let's begin with the news on the economy. good news, bad news, something in between possibly. inflation in the u.s. easing slightly in april. consumer prices rose 8.3%. lower than theri we saw in march but still very clearly painfully close to the 40 year high. today's report marks the first time the inflation rate fell in 8 months but still not good out there. sky high prices in major sectors and every aspect of life. president biden this morning called inflation unacceptably high in a statement he issued and also says inflation is now his top domestic priority as the economy faces unprecedented challenges from the supply chain to the war in ukraine. let's begin at the white house this hour. cnn's john harwood is there. john, walk us through this. >> reporter: well, look.
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inflation is president biden's top domestic priority, his top domestic problem as well. as you indicated, kate, there's good news and bad news in this report. the good news is that inflation does appear to be peaking and moderated a bit from the last measure. the problem is, it's peaking at a pretty high rate and the question is how rapidly does that come down? does it come down steadily over the course of the year to the 3% to 4% range? that would be positive, but there's no assurance that that is true, especially when you look at the inflation in services. you know, goods inflation tempered a little bit. that's where people spend all the pandemic checks when they were cooped up. now people are out consuming services more which are a larger part of the economy. that is pushing the inflation rate up from that side of things. so it is a big challenge for the administration. i think most economists believe that inflation will come down this year. the question is, how fast? >> absolutely. it's good to see you, john.
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thank you so much for that. i really appreciate it. joining me now for more on this is heather boucher, a member of the white house council of economic advisers. heather, thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> this is the first time prices are easing month over month since august. so, is this good news? >> re >> with the top headline number, you do see the slowdown, so that's better than bad news but i'm a little hesitant to call it good news because we don't know, of course, where it will go in the next few months and when you look under the hood, we see price increases under the economy. as the president laid out in the speech yesterday, this is a top priority for him. he has a series of policies both in place and things he aims to do to bring inflation down and we know, of course, high inflation is hard on families. but it was good to see families got a little bit of respite last month in terms of rising gas prices. though they have since come back up, but we continue to do our part to address inflation.
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>> is it your view, heather, that inflation has peaked? >> well, i think it's too soon to tell whether or not it's peaked. the council of economic advisers, we never want to make too much of a deal about any one month of data. certainly, again, it is good that the pace is decelerated relative to last month and we are hoping that we can work our way through this. here's the thing. we know that this inflation is with us today because of the fact that we're recovering from an historic pandemic that led to these supply chain challenges. we know that around the world, the covid virus is still raging and that that is leading to ongoing supply chain challenges and of course, the war in ukraine that putin is waging is having an effect on energy prices in particular. and so, you know, the outcomes of both of those trends really are going to help shape this trajectory in the near future. >> the trend clearly matters and you're not going to say yet if this inflation has peaked.
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maybe in another month, you'll have a better view on that. if this does mark the peak, how fast or slow do you expect the fall down to earth once again for prices? >> well, again, it depends on, you know, where we go with the ongoing supply chain challenges, what happens in ukraine, what that means for energy prices which is such an important component of family incomes, but here's the thing. there are a number of things that are happening alongside of this. first of all, we do not comment on federal reserve policy. dealing with inflation is their purview but they are taking concrete steps at this point and of course the president has put in place a variety of policies to contain price increases, and would like to do more. he is, you know, yesterday he talked about how he wants to work with congress to lower prices facing families to make sure we're on a path to energy independence to keep those costs down over time and to make sure we're lowering the deficit, continuing the lower the deficit
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on top of what happened last year through making sure that the wealthiest pay their fair share. these are all going to affect the trajectory of prices in the future. >> how much can be done? how much any administration can do? that remains a bit of a question. you're talking about what the president was speaking to in his remarks yesterday. he also, president biden, is also trying to draw republicans in to this conversation over inflation and what can be done or cannot be done as the conversation shifts towards the midterm election. his message, a very clear one yesterday. let me play some of his speech. >> it's the ultra maga agenda. the other path is the ultra maga plan. put forward by congressional republicans. to raise taxes on working families, but the fact is, congressional republicans, not all of them, but the maga republicans. counting on you to be as frustrated by the pace of
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progress with everything they've done, everything they can to slow down. but will hand power over to them. and then enact so they can enact their extreme agenda. >> it does feel like we're hearing a couple of things. it's either the administration can do something about inflation and then the republican plan to combat inflation will hurt from the administration's position or this entire thing is a result of so many external factors that are out of the administration's control. like supply chain issues, like putin's war. so which is it, heather? >> well, here's the thing. there's a lot that we can do in the presidential administration you can do around the supply chains but it requires some of the bigger things, collaboration with congress and that requires, you know, getting to those 50 or 60 votes to get things passed and this is where, you know, we've really seen things fall short. the president has a plan to, for example, lower the price of prescription drugs. that would help families ease
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their cost burden, but the republicans don't want to come to the table on that. similarly, the president has had a robust plan to put america on an energy independence path that would help to lower americans' energy costs, it would help to make sure we are not at the whims of autocrats like putin and wars he wants to wage in terms of our reliance on his oil and yet, we have not seen that legislation get through congress and for example, the president has said he wants to lower the prices of child care and home care for families and again, that has not made it through. there's a lot of specific things that the president is called on that are very important, yet at the same time, we've seen that the republicans have put forth a plan that just aims to increase taxes to the tune of about $1500 a year on middle class families. so i think that what the president really wanted to point out yesterday is that they don't have a plan to fight inflation and he has put ideas out there that would concretely help american families cope with the challenges of the ongoing
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pandemic and cope with the challenges that are due to this unprovoked war in ukraine by putin and he needs folks to help him do that. >> if you get these things in place, the president is asking for, do you think it is reasonable, as john harwood was talking about, do you think it's reasonable to think by the end of the year, you'd be looking more in the 3% to 4% range on inflation? >> certainly, if we can get these in place, that tells everyone, it tells all of us we are working toward that goal. so i think i'm more optimistic. i'm not going to put a number on it here today because there's so many opportunities but to save costs for american families on the things that cost them the most, while putting us on a cleaner energy path to help us down the road. these are the things that are going to benefit the american consumer for years and years to come. >> heather boucher, thank you. liberating more towns near kharkiv as america's top intelligence chief prolonging of
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front line in ukraine. ukrainian forces say they pushed out russian troops recapturing several villages north of kharkiv. yet the director of national intelligence is still warning that the war is likely to become, quote, more unpredictable and escalatory in the months ahead. k cnn's scott mclean live with the latest for us. what are you hearing from the front lines? >> reporter: hey, kate. well, the ukrainians say that in some places, they are outnumbered in terms of manpower 10-1 but a much different picture in the kharkiv region where they say the city itself
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has been quite quiet in recent d days but the villages and towns around it, taking back some of the villages in the towns out there and in fact, they say that in some parts, troops are just a few miles from the russian border and that is where they say the russians have started to build up troops in anticipation of the ukrainians actually reaching that border. we also have some video from earlier this month showing the remains of a pretty hasty russian retreat after the ukrainians struck a bridge and you can see some of the vehicles partially submerged. they say it's too dangerous still though for civilians to return because of course, many of these towns and villages outside of kharkiv are still very much in artillery range and saw the remains of the failed evacuation convoy fired on by the russian vehicles with bullet holes, at least four people killed and we also get new news out of mariupol where, of course, the situation inside of the azovstal steel plant has
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been desperate for well over two months now but not quite as desperate as we thought because of the high ranking general in the ukrainian armed forces says that ammunition and aid have been repeatedly delivered to the plant, though it was only possible up until it being known to the public. at that point, he says that the russians were able to take out that delivery mechanism. now we don't know what the delivery mechanism actually was. we don't know how often they were able to get supplies in or when they stopped, but at least at this point, there's no indication that their supplies are going in. though the soldiers say they still have enough ammunition to fight off the russians for now. kate? >> scott, it's good to see you. thank you so much for that. talking more about this, retired brigadier general, susan glasser, staff writer for "the new yorker." scott laid out what the latest is we're seeing. ukrainians retaking some villages and pushing back
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russian forces and have that ukraine's armed forces say that the russians have sent some 500 troops from occupied areas out of donetsk and luhansk and moving them into kharkiv in the north. what does that suggest to you? >> it suggests that to me, kate, they're losing and they know it. they're having to reposition their forces. they've been trying for six weeks now to cross the rivers and to get down to kramatorsk. they've been trying to get down there but unable to do it. the active defense they've put up and done this almost stunning counterattack north of kyiv and now the supply lines to belgorod that are sustaining all the russian troops down there, now they have to reposition these forces to protect these supply lines. so it's another indicator, things are not going well for vladimir putin down there. >> yeah, and susan, the russians have retreated and reset before. i mean, kyiv and kind of that
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episode or attempt is the most glaring example. if that's what's happening here, what does that tell you about the russian efforts in the east? as the general is saying, it looks like they're losing but what do they do? >> well, that's right. the question, kate, is long are they willing to keep going? i thought it was notable you heard the u.s. director of national intelligence use the word years, is possible for the russians to continue this fight. another phrase used that should cause alarm to those who are hoping and praying somehow that the war will end is the war of attrition. we've seen this happen before. russia and putin have been willing to go for a long, long period of time to accomplish objectives, even when they've suffered reverses at the beginning. if anything, that's caused increased escalation and increased brutality and i think when you look at the two
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chechnya campaigns that russia waged inside its own borders against its own citizens, that's where you get the fear that russia losing could make russia even more brutal and dangerous. >> absolutely. definitely a warning that everyone is listening to from admiral haines earlier this year. and an exchange from senator king and then the director of the intelligence agency about the accuracy of u.s. intelligence with russia and ukraine leading up to the inv invasion. let me play this. >> all i'm saying is, the intelligence community needs to do a better job on this issue. >> i think the intelligence community did a great job on this issue, senator, and we will -- >> general, how can you possibly say that when we were told explicitly, kyiv would fall in three days and ukraine would fall in two weeks? you're telling me that was accurate intelligence? >> so we were really focused on the russian forces at the time, and so when we backed --
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>> we were wrong about that too, weren't we? we overestimated the russians. >> the intelligence community did a great job in predicting and talking -- >> and i acknowledged that at the beginning of my question. i understand that, yes, they did. what they failed at was predicting what was going to happen after russia invaded. >> so general, they clearly don't agree on that point. and it is looking back, but how important is kind of this question, looking forward? >> kate, i don't think that's a very important question, quite frankly. i think theremarkable. we knew the attack was going to happen. overestimated the enemy. that's what you're supposed to do. you always overestimate the enemy that you're going up against. you assume the worst, hope for the best and do what you can do. but i think our intelligence has been remarkable and sharing with the ukrainians. they've been able to use it to their advantage. and i think that we would need
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to continue to do that but i think the intelligence community since 9/11 has done a remarkable job of improving, doing a better job of collecting information and more importantly, to do the right analysis, and i think that in most cases, they've been spot on. >> it's good to see you, general. really appreciate it. susan, always great to see you. thank you. coming up for us, a highly contagious covid subvariant that will soon be the dominant strain in the united states. why health officials are concerned about the months ahead. next. neutrogena® beach defense® the suncare brand used most by dermatologists and their families, neutrogena® for people with skin.
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the results are in for a couple of key republican primary contests in west virginia and in nebraska. the outcomes mixed though for candidates backed by donald trump. in west virginia, trump's preferred candidate, alex mooney, secured the republican nomination but in nebraska's republican primary for governor, the former president's pick did not succeed. kristen holmes with more. >> reporter: two proxy wars to show the former president has a strong grip on the republican matter but it is not absolute,
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and that means that when there is a candidate with flaws, it is possible they won't win. talk about charles herb ster, the candidate that trump endorsed in nebraska. a slew of sexual misconduct allegations all of which he denies but i want to start here in west virginia. on one hand, you had congressman alex mooney endorsed by donald trump and on the other hand, you had david mckinley who essentially had the backing of the entire west virginia political sphere. he was backed by democratic senator joe manchin, the republican governor here and yet still couldn't win and couldn't win by a large margin. so establishment versus trump candidate, trump candidate winning. now, in nebraska, a different dynamic. you had the governor there endorsing jim pillen. outgoing governor, term-limited and on the other side, trump
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endorsing herbster and asked trump not to get involved in the race and of course, he still did but did lose that race. this is just the beginning of several primaries that we are watching closely. pennsylvania another big one next tuesday. we'll see how trump's candidate fares there. >> it's interesting to watch this play out and next week particularly interesting as well. good to see you, cristin, thank you very much. i want to turn now to the pandemic. a new omicron sub variant is spreading rapidly in the united states. this new strain responsible for 43% of new covid cases. nearly doubling in prevalence over the past two weeks. it's already the dominant strain in parts of the northeast and soon will clearly become dominant throughout the rest of the country as we've seen this story before, but what does this mean for all of us at this point in the pandemic? joining me right now, dr. megan ranney. good to see you, dr. ranney.
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all of these subvariants, all have nicknames but tough kind of technical names. this subvariant i think is called ba.2121 so everyone knows but what is really known about this one at this point? what do you think of it? >> these new omicron subvariants are coming so fast and furious that the science is barely keeping up. what we know so far is that this new subvariant and a couple of others we're watching across the world are at least as transmissible if not more so than ba.2, which itself was more transmissible than the original omicron. other than that, it seems to have a lot of similar properties. so it's able to infect you even if you've been vaccinated but if you've been vaccinated and boosted, you're generally pretty well protected from severe disease and one of the things that we're watching for very closely is that although cases are absolutely surging, hospitalizations and deaths are, thank goodness, still staying low.
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>> yeah. there is this new cnn analysis that grabbed my attention. it uses cdc data and it is showing something pretty interesting, which is that since vaccines became available way back when, there was this very clear wide gap in deaths between the vaccinated and unvaccinated. that was the whole success of these vaccines, as we know, keeping people from dying. but that is now shifting a bit, again, in the second half of september, the data shows, the height of the delta wave, less than 25% of covid deaths were among vaccinated people. but then when you move into january and february, and this is amid the omicron surge, more than 40% of covid deaths were among vaccinated people. i mean, a majority of those had not gotten a booster, which is the key, i think, in all of this. i saw this and i thought, this might be the clearest case yet for the need for booster shots. what do you think of this? >> that is exactly right. omicron changed the game in terms of boosters. it really meant that if you are
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more than four months out from that initial two shot series, getting the third shot matters deeply and i'll add one more thing here, kate, which is that we see increasing evidence that for older folks, people who are 65 plus, people who have multiple chronic conditions, a fourth shot is also really important for protecting from that severe disease. we need to be really clear, i'm making sure that everyone who lives in a nursing home, all of our elderly folks in senior housing, all of our elderly folks who live in multigenerational homes have gotten their third shot and now their fourth, and we've got to work on making sure that that's available across communities across the united states or else, we are going to see continued waves of deaths going forward. >> the government's definition of fully vaccinated hasn't changed though. it does not include a booster at this point. i mean, fully vaccinated, it just doesn't seem like it's in line with the idea of being fully protected at this point. why do you think they haven't changed that definition?
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>> this is a huge area of debate. i think there are two big reasons why they haven't changed. the first is, the first two shots still do provide significant protection over no vaccination. that's really the baseline. you need to get those first two shots. the other reason, i think, they haven't changed it is because we don't yet know what is still to come, so i don't think it looks good for us to say, fully vaccinated is three shots, now it's four shots, we're still waiting and figuring things out. my expectation and that of most of the public health community is that eventually, full vaccination is going to be three shots. with yearly boosters but this virus is still so new, it's tough to say. >> in the interim, it puts everybody, every medical doctor and every family needing to make decisions in the limbo area of what's right and what to do next. thank you so much. up next, the senate will be voting on abortion rights.
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be taking up a bill aimed at protecting a woman's right to choose but that effort is expected to fail because it will not likely be getting the 60 votes needed according to senate voting rules. it comes as the supreme court is appearing still poised to overturn roe v. wade. let's get over to the capitol. cnn's manu raju is live on capitol hill talking to a lot of people on where this is headed and what it means. what are you hearing, manu? >> reporter: we just spoke to senator joe manchin who told us he plans to vote no to advance this bill to essentially codify abortion rights in the aftermath of that leaked supreme court opinion showing that a conservative majority is prepared to do away with roe v. wade but he told a group of us just moments ago that he believes that the democratic bill goes too far. he believes it's an expansion of abortion rights, even as he opposes abortion rights, he said he would support a narrower version of that bill, potentially just a codification
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of roe v. wade but he says this goes even further than that. so what does that ultimately mean here, kate? that means there will be a bipartisan majority opposing this bill. he's expected to go down today 49-51 and as you said, needs 60 votes to advance showing just how far short democrats are from overcoming a filibuster attempt which will be successful this afternoon. where does this leave democrats going forward? there's some talk among liberals to gut changes in the filibuster rules to allow an abortion rights bill to pass on the simple majority basis but not just manchin but also kyrsten sinema. and leery about going that route. no legislative path for democrats here, but their only path, they believe, elect more democrats, they say, and things could change after november. >> really interesting, manu. thank you so much. let's get some reaction to this right now.
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democratic senator tammy baldwin, co-sponsor of the bill. the senate voting on this afternoon. thank you for being here. joe manchin is now going to be a no and as manu said, it's now going to be now a bipartisan majority opposing your bill. that's really not what you want but is that even the message that you want to come from this afternoon? >> well, i think voters need to know where every senator stands on this important constitutional right, that the supreme court appears poised to strip away from women. the first time constitutional right has been taken away rather than expansion of our rights. and at its core, we want to emphasize over and over again that this is about women's freedom to control their health care, their bodies, their family. and they need to know where their senators stand. the overwhelming majority of the american public believes that roe v. wade should remain in
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place. a very small percentage of those polled recently believed that it should be overturned, and i'm obviously disappointed that the entire republican party is willing to strip away this freedom for women, and by leaving it to the states, it means, depending on where you live, you might have a very different set of rights in wisconsin. >> but also now, it isn't just republicans now but democratic colleague joe manchin who votes against your bill. he says it goes too far. is this a surprise to you? >> let me talk about that. i am a co-sponsor, as you mentioned, of the women's health protection act and what it does is it first codifies roe v. wade, but then because we've seen hundreds of bills
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introduced in many paths and states across the country that restrict access to abortion care and full reproductive freedom for women, we also take the step of making it clear that a state cannot impede this constitutionally protected right as so many have. and that's all it does. and so i think we've been very clear that we're on the side of fighting for women's freedom and constitutional rights, and again, i want to say, if you let it revert to the states, wisconsin has a statute on the books that was passed in 1849. that's how old our abortion law is, that makes it illegal. it would imprison doctors, and we shouldn't be sent back to the mid 1800s. >> can you also speak to joe manchin's concerns and his no
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vote then? because that's not a good look for democrats if you're looking for unity to stand up in the face of this. >> yeah, well, i think his interpretation of the bill is incorrect. when he says it goes a lot further, actually, it keeps the states from interfering with roe v. wade and restricting access. that's the additional provisions of the women's health protection act and they need to be there because look how many states have taken action like the texas law that allows vigilantes to go out and try to find anybody who aided or abetted an abortion. >> you said that you support, we know that this vote is going to fail. you want to get people on the record on this vote. you have said though also that you support opening up the filibuster to codify abortion rights nationally and dick durbin, your fellow democrat, was on this morning and
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suggested a change in the voting rules at this point is not going to happen. how serious are you about this? are you taking this up with leadership? >> i certainly believe that it is high time when we're dealing with fundamental constitutional rights, whether that be the right to vote or a woman's freedom to control her own body and her health care and choose when or whether to have a family, that those are so fundamental to our democracy that we should be either reforming or doing away with the filibuster. i understand the math and know that it's very unlikely to happen given our attempts around voting rights to have a talking filibuster, actually trying to repeal it outright. but i believe that we ought to be changing the senate rules when it comes to fundamental
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constitutional rights. >> senator tammy baldwin, thank you for coming in. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. coming up for us, the journalist is killed in the west bank. the israelis and the palestinians are blaming each other. a live report on what we have learned now about this next. can help you build a complete financial plan. visit to find your cfp® professional. ♪ better hearing leads to a better life. and that better life... ...starts at miracle-ear. it all begins with the most innovative technology... the new miracle-earmini™. available exclusively at miracle-ear. so small, no one will see it. but you'll notice the difference. and now, miracle-ear is offering a 30-day risk-free trial. you can experience better hearing with no obligation. call 1-800-miracle right now and experience a better life.
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journalist was gunned down. now cnn is live in jerusalem with more. the israelis and the palestinians are pointing blame at each other here. what are you learning? ali samoudi al jazeera was shot this morning while covering a military operation. her producer was also shot but in stable condition and in disturbing video we're seeing in the direct aftermath of that shooting, you can clearly see that shireen is wearing a protected vest saying she's a member of the press. they're placing the blame fully on israeli forces. they said that they called the international community to condemn and hold the israeli forces accountable, they say, for what they said is deliberately targeting and
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killing their colleague. the israeli defense forces said they were operating as part of a counter terrorism organization. the military has been stepping up the operations and raids. as a result of a series of attacks in israel that killed at least 18 people. the israeli military said several attackers came from the area. the israeli military said this morning while they were conducting the operation they came under heavy fire and returned fire. initially they put out a statement saying it is very likely or possible that shireen and her producer were struck by cross fire shot by palestinians. they're saying at this stage it's not possible to determine which shot she was hit and regret her death. they're setting up a special team that will clarify the facts and present them in full. it's a terrible day for journalists here and journalists around the world. journalists killed while covering a story. >> absolutely. thank you so much for bringing us that story. new this morning, cnn obtained new audio of former
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alabama corrections officer vicky white on the phone with police dispatchers moments before she and escaped convict casey white were captured in indiana. >> just after that call, u.s. marshals ran the pair's car off the road. nadya romero is live in alabama with the latest. what are you learning today? >> reporter: well, kate, this gives us a look inside the mind set of vicky white and the finally moments. we know she was used to being on the other side of law enforcement having spent some 17 years as a corrections officer. this time she was the focus of a nationwide manhunt. in those 9-1-1 tapes, we know she was reported to having a gun to her head.
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take a listen. we know that vicky white later died from her injuries on monday night. as far as casey white, well, he was brought from indiana to back here to alabama to the courthouse late last night around 11:00 p.m. he had the first chance to talk face to face with his attorney since his escape and went before a judge for his arraignment. we know his capital murder trial that was scheduled to begin this summer is still on track. his lawyer said he'll likely ask for a change of venue. that, kate, is because of the international attention his escape caused. >> nadya, thank you so much for that. i appreciate it. we want to end this hour with a truly incredible story. this is the unbelievable moment that we'll show you when a passenger with no flight experience safely lands. you see it there.
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that's a passenger with zero flight experience safely landing a plane in florida after his pilot suffered a medical emergency. listen to the air traffic controller guiding him through the terrifying moments. so air traffic controller captain robert morgan is also a flight instructor, thankfully. he told cnn this morning his entire focus was on keeping the
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passenger calm. >> i knew that if we could get him close enough to the runway that he would be successful one way or another they would be okay. i had so much adrenaline built up. i was really happy it worked out and nobody got hurt. >> what a sweet guy. what an amazing man. thank goodness for his previous training as a flight instructor in all of this. emergency crews met the plane on the tarmac. there are pictures of them meeting after wards. the pilot's condition, at this . an amazing moment to see, for sure. thank you so much for being here. i'm kate baldwin. "inside politics" with john king starts after this break.
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