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law. and to do what's right. above the partisan nature of politics. >> yeah. >> do what's right for the american people. >> but, judge, who is opposed to protecting your home address? protecting the schools that your kids go to, who's fighting that? >> i'm sorry, for that. can you hear me now? >> i can hear you. >> go on. i was going to say that for the most part there are a few members of congress that are fighting to include -- include themselves on the legislation, which, listen, i don't have a problem with congress wanting to include themselves. i don't have a problem with that. but our bill is narrowly tailored to address this governmental interest, this needed governmental interest. and if they want protections, they should pursue that in their own bill. but this is a bill that has been languished and it's ready to go. and there's just no reason to hold it back at this point.
that's the part that, for me, i just say, let's do something now. let's be united and do something. >> yeah. i understand. i want to play for you something that senator chuck schumer said about this, about people showing up outside the homes of public officials, basically, he was saying it comes with the territory. so, listen to this. >> there's protests three, four times a week outside my house. that's the american way to peacefully protest is okay. >> and so, do you agree that peacefully protesting outside of a judges', say, or a supreme court justice's home is okay, or you're uncomfortable? >> listen, i respect senator schumer so much. i have a lot of respect for all members of congress. the fact of the matter is, judges are in an unique situation. we're on the front line protecting democracy every single day. the numbers have shown, this is not hyperbole, we are literally
taking the bullets to protect democracy and the rule of law. my son paid for it with his life. judge leftkov's wife and mother paid for it. we're asking to uphold the constitution and rule of law. we're talking apples and oranges here. and the fact of the matter is, that if we want this country to continue to enjoy the freedoms that we enjoy, we need to protect the federal judiciary. we are in an unique position, and one i'm sure senator schumer could understand. >> judge salas, we appreciate talking to you. we'll watch very closely what happens to the daniel anderl judicial privacy security act you that want passed so desperately. thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you so much. have a good day. >> you, too. we're watching the senate floor, minutes from now, we're expecting a vote on a bill that would preserve abortion rights under federal law.
this is coming after a leaked draft opinion that indicates that roe v. wade could be overturned. the bill is almost certainly going to fail. minutes ago, house democrats marched over to the senate chanting in support of the help station. >> myself is my body. >> my decision. >> my body. >> my decision. >> my body. >> my decision. >> if the supreme court strikes down roe v. wade, those decisions would be left up to the states. and numerous states have passed laws indicating that they intend to ban abortions. cnn's manu raju is live for us at the capitol. ma manu, what are you hearing from senators? >> reporter: well, this bill will go down and probably fail by bipartisan majority will vote to block this measure from going forward. the bill will, in the view of some the critics here, go too far in dealing with abortion rights. people like senator joe manchin as the one democratic senator who is expected to vote against this plan.
and two republicans who support abortion rights, lisa murkowski, susan collins, also are expected to vote no. the rest of the 49 democrats, 47 democrats and two independents will vote in favor of this, 49-51 is the expected vote outcome. earlier today, we caught up with senator manchin, asked him what his view is on this. and he made clear that he believed roe versus wade should be codified but in his view, this legislation goes too far. >> this is it disappointing we're going to be on a piece of legislation which i will not vote for today. but i would vote for roe v. wade codification if it was today. i was hopeful for that. i found out yesterday in caucus that wasn't going to be. >> you say you're pro-life, why do you support codification of roe v. wade? >> it's legislation we've had for 50 years. it's precedented law. when the supreme court justices
came to us and they confirmed their belief and support of precedent law, i believed it. we found out that's not what they're either moving towards, or we'll find out when we have the final ruling in that but i was very disappointed to see that. >> reporter: the question is where do democrats go from here after this vote fails? ultimately, this will be up to the voters come the fall, midterms. legislatively there is no path for the democrats, some liberal, particularly in the house, have pushed the democrats to change the senate's filibuster rules to allow this legislation to advance by a simple majority. 51 senators. but not just joe manchin who opposed changing the filibuster rules, kyrsten sinema, but also top democrats are skeptical of doing that as well for abortion. including senator dick durbin, who is the number two democrat, told me earlier today, doing that could essentially come back to bite them if the republicans take back the majority and the
white house here. ultimately, a lot of passion on this issue, a lot of debate, on both sides of the issue. but it will be the voters who ultimately decide which party should be taking control of congress. and whether they send back more democrats in order to pass the legislation. potentially change the filibuster rules and eventually get this into law. >> manu, we're standing by waiting for that vote. let's bring cnn political correspondent abby phillip, he's the anchor of "inside politics sunday." >> also with us, analyst gloria borger. great to have you both. gloria, the supreme court, it sounds like in that draft, was basically saying this is really the job for your elected representatives, this is a job for your legislation. doesn't seem as though congress is able to do that. then what? >> well, i think that's the question, i think look, right now, this is politically, for republicans, something they don't want to touch. they understand where the polls
are. and i think privately, if you were to talk to a lot of them, particularly those who are up for re-election. they would say to you, gee, i wish this hadn't happened right now. because they know that the votes of suburban, well-educated women are probably on the line right now. and what you see going on in congress and manu can talk about this more than anybody is a little kabuki cater here. you know this is going to fail. democrats want to get republicans on the record voting against this bill. republicans say the bill goes too far. and democrats say that republicans just want to do away with roe versus wade which has been in effect for 50 years. and takeaway a right that women have had for so long. so, it's kind of a dance that's going on. we don't know exactly what the supreme court opinion is going to be at this point. i should point out, democrats hope it's going to affect the
midterm elections. although if you look at the polling, it really hasn't sunk in yet. and may not have the impact that democrats hope it would have. >> abby, we know that, as we heard from senator manchin there, also murkowski, susan collins, they say that this bill goes too far. is there even a single piece of legislation that could unite the senators who support codifying roe? is there one bill that all 52 of them can agree on? >> yeah, i mean, this is a little bit like legislative whac-a-mole, where you try to get collins and murkowski and oftentimes manchin, you're going to lose someone else on the left, perhaps. and i think that's the calculus that senate leaders are making right now, is that if they really do make a good faith effort to create a compromise to get bipartisan support, they may not be able to do it if they end up losing progressives on both
the left, who say it just doesn't go far enough. and so i think it just -- honestly, it calls into question this whole strategy altogether. i mean, as a messaging, though, you're kind of dividing your own caucus, with -- by losing manchin. and basically signaling to voters that you're taking a test vote that's not going to go anywhere. that you know is not going to go anywhere. and you're not showing that there is bipartisan support for the thing that you want to accomplish. and i don't see how that necessarily is going to help democrats when it comes to galvanizing their voters. although voters have said in a lot of polls that they are frustrated with the democratic party by the inability to get things done. and setting up this vote really does kind of put that front and center, that there are not enough votes to protect roe versus wade which is something that is of a priority to a lot of democratic-based voters. >> gloria, i try to imagine the
future and what this looks like, if in fact the draft is true, roe v. wade is gone, if there is no federal legislation at all, then are we just a bifurcated country of red versus blue, where people who want abortion rights live in the blue states. and people who can't, or who don't want it, live in the red states and then what? >> well, i think that's -- you know, that's the huge question. for particularly for women, who cannot afford to travel, to get an abortion, if they need one. and then there are the other questions, in addition to the economic question. who are you going to penalize? are you going to penalize the doctors? are you going to arrest them? are you going to arrest the women?
where does this lead vis-a-vis other supreme court decisions about gay marriage, interracial marriage, et cetera, et cetera. if you play this outs there are states of questions raised whether ivf would become illegal. as i look at this, and i see, okay, the polls are showing as of now, it's not going to have that much impact on the midterm elections. the question i have, if this decision is as we think it is, how does that play out in the presidential election in 2024? when you see the ramifications of this decision, as it kind of unspools in different states. and women see what they are up against. and you know, i just don't know where this leads because every state is different. and some state laws are much more draconian than others. >> manu, i'm going to jump ahead here, we're still waiting for
the vote here, but what is the democratic strategy moving forward? the senate held, by my count, correct me if i'm wrong, at least two votes on voting rights legislation that they knew would fail. there was a vote on the january 6 commission that they knew would fail before it started. i'm sure you know more that fit on that list. are they going to continue to do this, leading up to the midterms? >> reporter: i'd say they're going to keep fighting for it. but what exactly does that mean. remember, this bill that's about to go down this hour, a similar version was already defeated back in february. so there's been no question about ultimately where this would end up. the only question is if any votes perhaps one around the margin, maybe manchin will change. because he said he was still review something of the minor changes made here. but he opposed also this measure in february. now, there is some possible talk of a bipartisan bill. you mentioned potentially
getting murkowski or collins on board. they do have a piece of legislation that is narrower that would codify roe or planned parenthood versus the casey decision. not going farther than that, potential getting joe manchin on board that would effectively get them 52 votes when they need 60, with the filibuster. it's not clear whether democrats view as a political strategy, worth while to say they have manchin and collins on board with the plan. maybe they want to give them the vote, they haven't said they do. ultimately, this is going to be a messaging issue. this is going to be a talking point. having more and more of these votes are bound to end in the same result here which is failure. >> okay. we will continue to keep an eye on this vote, bring you the results when it happens, abby, gloria, manu, thank you saul. cnn has new details about the public hearings on the january 6th insurrection, the testimony will begin in just under a month. >> sources tell cnn that people
may hear from members of the trump family, not live or in person, but through recordings. cnn ryan nobles has more. >> reporter: that's right, victor and alisyn. we are less than a month away from the hearings in which the january 6 select committee is banking a lot of their hopes in terms of making the case to the american people about the merits of their investigation through these very public hearings. some that could take place in prime time, some throughout the day and we're zeroing in on exactly what the committee is going to talk about. we're told some of these hearings will have specific focus areas and that there will be a number of topics that they want to dive into. as an example, we're told they're going to focus on that period of time as to what the former president donald trump was doing during the rally. of course, we've seen the call logs and records during that period of time that have big gaps that they're going to focus on that. they're going to talk about law enforcement response to the riot and organizing and financing of
the january 6th rally. and then, of course, there becomes a question as to who the committee will call as a potential witness. we're told at this point, they've not finalized that list of potential witnesses. they haven't even made outreach to people they'd like to see appear. if you take a look at some of the people who have appeared behind closed doors that vowed information. jeff rosen, the former acting attorney general. richard donahue. marc short and greg jacob, the general counsel to the president. all had unique insight into what was happening in the time leading up to and on january 6. and could be pretty compelling witnesses should they appear in an open hearing but then there's, of course, the question about those closest to the former president his own children and son-in-law, ivanka trump, jared kushner and donald trump jr. all three of these individuals
have appeared behind closed doors. there's no sign that the committee wants them to appear in a public hearing. but we do know they've videotaped these interviews, these depositions that have taken place. and they've said it includes a multimedia presentation, video, audio and testimony. and there's a possibility that they'll use clips from these depositions as part of the hearings. the committee at the very least hoping they'll deliver explosive new details when the hearings take place. they are setting the stage very high for what will be a culmination of work in the past ten months up to this point. victor and alisyn. >> ryan, nobles, thank you. president biden just addressed food supply issues and skyrocketing prices. he's vowed to ease the pain. but experts warn it may be a while until you feel the relief. a member of the economic people
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critical sources of food. >> labor department reported that inflation finally slowed for a bit for the first time in nine months but economists say it will probably be a while until we see any significant relief 93 grocery store or gas station. fuel costs just broke another record, $4.40 a gallon, on average, for the first time ever. joining me now is jared bernstein, he's a member of the white house council of economic advisers, jared, welcome back. we asked the president about inflation. the president said it's going down. down 0.2% in april. did we see the peak of inflation in march? is the high point behind us? >> reporter: you know, the president was asked that precise question yesterday, and he said it's too soon to call a peak. we're always happy to see any kind of a slowdown of inflation. we saw that, as you mentioned,
8-5 to 8-3, i think the broader point is that inflation is just too elevated and is putting real pressure on household budgets. and the president called this yesterday his top domestic priority. and he reinforced that message today, as you just heard in the segment you played. now, i work for the president, if it's his top priority, that makes it mine as well. and we are working in areas of food, energy, kitchen table costs, bringing down the de deficit. helping to increase the labor supply and active agenda to help ease the pressures as best we can. because even with the slight slowdown, we know this is a real challenge to american households. >> when will there be relief. as i mentioned, economists say it will be a while. what's the projection? >> sure. one of the first things you want to do with these reports is get under the hood and look at all of these different components. now, we at the council of
economic advisers are very careful never to call one month a trend even if we like what it says in one month. but for the past three months are used car prices have had negative handles on each one of those months so we're very happy to see that. we're very much hoping that trend continues. that probably suggests some loosening of supply chain snarls. we've been doing a pretty good job of through-puts, that is getting stuff from the stock to shelves. we're trying to help improve that throughput through the ports, that's helped. if you look at broader forecasts, you will see by the end of the year inflation is going to grow considerably more than it is now. >> let's talk about gas prices, the last time you and i spoke was in february. and you touted the president's
three-point plan to bring down the price of a gallon of gas. back then, it was about $3.46 a gallon. it's almost $1 more now. what left is there to do? >> well, probably if that was in february, assuming it was before february 24th, that's preinvasion. and one of the things that this president has been very clear with about with the american people, you just heard him talk about it now, the atrocities that russia is imposing on the sovereign state of ukraine are definitely playing out in commodity prices. food, energy, gasoline. fertilizer. and so, we have to continue to ramp-up our efforts. now, since then, the president has overseen a plan to release 180 million barrels of oil from the strategic reserve. that's historic release of oil reserves that we can control. he's gotten the european partners to add 60 million barrels to that. he's out in the midwest today where he has waived e-15 ethanol
rules such that they can increase their supply of bio fuel additives to gasoline. that will increase the supply there. of course, he's working with our partners and other producing countries, energy-producing countries to make sure they hit their energy quotas. >> still, gas is at a record high. let's ask you about this potential gas tax holiday. 30 democrats on the hill who support legislation. right now it's 18.4 cents a gallon, states are creating this holiday. is that under serious consideration, supporting that brief respite, and maybe for the end the year for drivers? >> let me put that this way, victor, that is very much on the table, as is any other good idea that comes our way. to help ease these price pressures. i think the key thing for listeners to recognize is that
gasoline, oil in particular, is a global market. all right. the globe consumes 100 million barrels of oil per day. now, anything we can do at the margin, that is even 1 million barrels per day, that release from the strategic relieve, 1 million barrels per day for the next six months is going to help in that regard. but the president's been straight up with the american people about this. that we are trying to help the atrocities being perpetuated on ukraine. and that will put pressure on commodity prices. that said, every good idea is on the table. >> all right. jared bernstein, always appreciate your time, sir. thank you. >> thank you, victor. a crisis, that's what parents are calling the dire shortage of infant baby formula. so what can be done? next. oh hi caesarar. we were just talking a about y. yeah, you should probablbly get out of here. ♪ ringcentral ♪
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that your baby gets. when you get to the store, you almost cry. >> laura modi is the ceo of bobby, a company that makes baby formula. great to have you here. you heard that mom, how scared she is. we're hearing from parents how frightened they are. i have heard that some are resorting to water down the formula to stretch it farther. how big of a problem is that? and what are you hearing of parents doing? >> i mean, it's a problem. it's not just a problem. it's a crisis. and it's a crisis that's only getting worse. and to understand what is happening, you really just need to look at the industry which is the shortage we are seeing today, it's inextricably tied to the fact there is market concentration on this. when two formula companies own the majority of the market and one of them has a recall, we should not be questioning how do we continue to feed babies. >> i mean, obviously, this is on
some level, a boon for your business. i know that this isn't necessarily what you wanted. but you have your demand for your product has increased exponentially, but you say it's not like you can flip a switch and just create more formula. why not? >> yeah, that's right. there is tension between safety and speed. and for an essential good like infant formula, there's zero room for short cuts. you need to make sure that you're balancing both perfectly. when you look at the manufacturing capacity today, we're already at maximum runs. we can't push it any further. we made the decision as a company, which now in hindsight was an easy one to say, we need to prioritize our current customers. while stopping our growth. >> senator mitt romney has written a letter about all of this. he thinks it's such a crisis he's written to the fda and usda. i'll just read the second half. he says, i'm deeply concerned about the apparent lack of
mitigation strategy and urge both agencies to move as fast as possible to safely resolve this situation. do you think the federal government can do more? >> look, to underscore this, yes, this is a crisis. we have to do more. and this is far greater than any one company. or any one agency within the government. we have to come together to figure this out. that is the only solution. but there's the short term and there's the long term. and i think in the short term, we need to look beyond even the u.s. and we need to be able to put some in flexibilities to say, what are we doing to get more formula into this country, to feed babies. in the long term, we need to make sure we're finding solutions so we're not in this crisis again. >> in the meantime, what's the solution for parents? what should parents be doing right now? i just read all of the testimonials from moms who have driven miles and miles to find empty store shelves. their babies are crying.
some of them for whatever reason have dietary needs, specifics, their babies are starving. >> look, speaking as a mother, first and foremost, it is scary. and frankly, it's unacceptable. but watching some of the behaviors that are happening, we have to remain calm. we cannot have rationing. we cannot have theft. ke have not have mothers making homemade formulas in their kitchen. they need to consult with their pediatrician. while it may not seem ideal to make the switch, it is really the only solution right now. >> laura modi, thank you very much. we appreciate you coming on. your company is bobbie, and we'll see if we can get the formula on the store shelves soon, thank you. breaking news the vote on the abortions rights bill is happening right now in the senate. vice president kamala harris is there in the chamber. she will preside over the vote. this is expected to fail.
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ukrainians say they are retaking territory from the russians, specifically in the kharkiv area. ukraine's largest city in the east. there's drone video we have here that captures the destruction of a russian tank in that area. a senior interior ministry official said the russians are also very worried about ukraine's counteroffensive, to the north of kharkiv. at the same time, to the south, this newly installed government of kherson just asked to become part of russia. >> so, kherson was the first major city taken by vladimir putin's forces. and in response, an adviser to ukraine's president zelenskyy said, quote, the invaders may ask to join even mars or jupiter. the ukrainian army will liberate kherson, no matter what games with words they play. let's go to the anchor of out front erin barnett. she's in kyiv. now, erin, we understand the people are going to be given
russian passports? >> reporter: right, they're gist going to plow ahead with this. you quoted the ukrainian official there, you can ask to join mars or jupiter, you'll see what happened. president zelenskyy in ukraine made it clear that they're not moving from any territory that is ukrainian. they're not going to see this in any way, shape or form. but the leader of kherson said we're not going to bother with a referendum, we're just going to join the russian federation and issue passport. obviously, contested by ukraine and it will continue to be part of the fight that you see. you know, one interesting thing, i do want to say, as part of this as you were showing some of that drone footage. amazing to see so much by drone. and how important drones have been here. i was talking to a man whose house had been destroyed. he said the russians who were in his house were waiting and waiting for the ukrainians to come. and they didn't. instead, their drones came. and the russians didn't know what to do.
their commanders said they would give them extra cigarettes if they could shoot the drones down, they'd get a bonus in cigarettes because the drones are so effective. when you look at the footage now, it's important to emphasize, from every side we touch this and hear what the russians were saying what a crucial place in this war, victor. >> erin, let's go to the donbas region. what do you know about the russian missiles that hit slovyansk? >> reporter: so, slovyansk is a very important town strategically, victor. it's very important for the russians and sort of a major front for them. right now, we understand two missiles hit there. the mayor of the town says they're currently assessing the damage. they don't believe there's any casualties. there's a lot of unknown an this, what you can take away, those missiles are hitting and this is now a very strategic important city for the russians as they try to advance down in donbas. >> erin, what have you been
learning about the gas transport operations from russia. ukraine had been allowing them but now they've been disrupted. what happened there? >> reporter: you know, one of the great ironies about the whole situation of europe's complete reliance on russia for gas, is that put ago side nord stream 2 pipeline which is is not yet operational, it's from ukraine. so far, all of that gas that we've been talking, was russia able to send it, and europe piece going to pay for it, is europe going to sanction it? has all been going under ukraine without disruption until now. now, there's a big dispute over what's causing it. it was a 25% drop in gas supplies coming through. obviously, it's warmer now so there's not an immediate crisis. but this is significant. it could affect european gas storage. and the ukrainians are saying it's because of the russians. the russians and gazprom are saying that it isn't.
obviously, expect this to be resolved. it's the first time that we've seen the crucial pipelines that run underneath this company actually become involved. in that sense, it's very significant to watch. >> it sounds like it. erin barnett, thank you for the reporting. >> all right. favorite story of the day here, this is remarkable, this midair disaster avoided in south florida. >> you say passengers were on the airplane. >> that's correct. >> great job. >> no flying experience. >> that's right, a passenger with no flying experience made an incredible landing. up next, the air traffic controller who helped him tells us how they pulled off. no, no, no. they're both invested..... in green energy. and also each other. digital tools s so impressive, you just can't stop. what w would you like the power to do?
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so in the meantime, have you ever imagined what you would do if your pilot of the plane was incapacitated and you had to land the plane? >> no, i never imagined that. >> i do it all the time. >> really? >> yeah. >> no. i say a prayer for the pilot and hope we make it safely. this happened to a passenger on a single engine plane off the coast of florida. he had to figure out how to safely land the plane himself. step one, get some help from air traffic control. >> i have a serious situation here. my pilot has gone incoherent. i have no idea how to fly the airplane. >> maintain 333, roger, what's your position? >> i have no idea. >> what's the situation with the pilot? >> he is incoherent, he is out. >> 311 delta, roger. try to hold the wings level and
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