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remain in kyiv because we are waiting for great construction ukraine after this war. >> to rebuild. >> what can i say more? >> alexi's emotion rising unexpectedly. he's ready to rebuild. the day and his child are so beautiful. there is also a great and painful sadness here. "ac 360" starts now. >> less than a month before public hearings are scheduled to begin, the panel charged with investigating the president his
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a alleys has made an unprecedented move. five subpoenas were issued for kevin mccarthy as well as someone he tried to commit, jim jordan. in response, he said it wasn't legitimate. including calling the subpoenas a witch hunt and charade. none said whether they would comply or not. the move is unprecedented so it gets into unchartered waters constitutionally which we'll get into in a moment with john dean. just as a refresher, here's what some of the congressmen were saying leading up to and on january 6th. >> for americans know there was something wrong with this election. >> president trump won this election. >> they changed the rules. they changed the election law and they did it in an unconstitutional fashion. >> republicans will not back down. we will not wait the four years to change this. >> it was just six states. who violated the constitution. what if it's ten states next time? what if it's 15?
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>> everyone who's listening, do not be quiet. do not be silent about this. >> our ancestors sacrificed their blood, their sweat, their tears, their fortunes and sometimes their lives. >> we cannot allow this to happen before our very eyes. >> are you willing to do the same? >> we are the final check and balance. the shauthority rests with us. >> we are going the fight this now. >> today is the day american patriots start taking down names and kicking ass! >> in addition to that kind of language, previous statements by the committee give us a window into some of what they are hoping to discover starting with leader mccarthy, the committee said it wants to know about conversations he had with the former president on the day of the attack and specifically, a comment mccarthy made to his conference after the attack. comments that were recorded and published to the "new york times." >> let me be clear to all of you and i have been clear to the
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president. he bears responsibilities for his words and actions. no ifs, ands, or buts. i asked him personally today does he hold responsibility for what happened? does he feel bad about what happened? he told me he does have some responsibility for what happened. that he needed to acknowledge that. >> that's what he said referring to the former president. he said that he does have some responsibility for what happened. the ecocommittee wants to know e about that. he wants to know more about conversations with the white house. something mr. jordan has had a hard time recalling. >> on january 6th, did you speak with him before, during, or after the capitol was attacked? >> i'd have to go, i -- i spoke with him that day after. i think after. i don't know if i spoke with him in the morning or not. i just don't know. i'd have to go back -- i mean, i don't -- i don't know when those
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conversations happened, but, what i know is i spoke with him all the time. >> now the other members they've subpoenaed are scott perry. text messages from then chief of staff reveal perry had a key role in trying to overturn the election, including trying to get the cia director to baseless conspiracy theories and working to replace the acting attorney general. the committee has said they want to ask andy biggs what he knows about the purposes, planning, and expectations for that day. then there's mo brooks, the guy you saw in the video asking if they want to sacrifice for blood and kick some ass. the committee like lly wants to talk to him about that and an interview where the president asked him to quote, rescind the election of 2020. i spoke with kaitlan collins. what are you learning tonight? >> we're learning that v investigators have issued a subpoena to the national
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archives to get access to these classified documents that were taken to mar-a-lago after he left office. the national archives first found out about the documents back in january and once they were returned to the national archives, some were marked as classified. so what we're learning from the subpoena that's been issued that we've confirmed here is that this is the first signal there is some kind of ongoing investigation underway into the handling of this information. the subpoena is really the formal step taken by the justice department and investigators so they can get access to the documents. >> has the former president responded? >> he has responded through a spokesperson who said when he was in office, he handled all documents in accordance with law, regulation and this attempt to second guess that is a clear attempt at politically motivated actions by they believe these investigators. and we should note, anderson, that something like this, an investigation into the handling
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of classified information, doesn't normally result in criminal charges of any sense, but it does show that there is a higher level of scrutiny on how the former president had handled this classified information. remember there were reports about when he was in office, he would often rip up documents and aides would have to tape them together because you can't just destroy documents like that. but this shows there were questions about what was taken to mar-a-lago. why it was taken there and who did that and why. >> more on the committee's investigation from jamie. again, we don't know if any of the five republican lawmakers plan to comply with the subpoena. what more are you hearing? >> we don't. i would say the chances are slim to none. that said, there's been some suggestion that some of them might negotiate interviews behind the scenes. it's also possible that by issuing these subpoenas, the committee is giving cover to someone. maybe one of them who wants to testify. but that seems unlikely right
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now. i think what's important to remember is that today's announcement goes way beyond whether or not they testify, anderson. the committee knew this would be a political tsunami. they were laying down a marker but they felt it was important for history to go on the record and say january 6th rises to the level of doing something unprecedented, anderson. >> appreciate it. perspective now from dana bash, john kasich, john dean, former nixon white house council and cnn contributor. dana, if all five of these republican lawmakers refuse to comply, what then? >> well, the committee actually has more tools in its tool box with sitting members of congress than with others. like the former member who was of course chief of staff, mark meadows. they could, maybe the ultimate is to hold them in criminal
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contempt and refer back. they could say that they should be held in civil contempt and make that reference. but my understanding is the more likely if any or none of these five sitting republican congressmen do not comply with this committee's request, they could take more administrative punishment and they have tools like first and foremost, the ethics committee. if you're a sitting member of congress, you are still susceptible to the rules governed by the body of the house inside the ethics committee and by not complying with the committee subpoena that presumably would violate an ethics rule. and more administrative tools they could use. they could say, well, either the congressman or even the leader, kevin mccarthy, there could be a vote, a full house vote to restrict some of their money they used if their offices.
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they do have options at the ready. the ultimate, which i don't think anybody is going to use is something that hasn't been used in over 100 years, which is actually to try to offer vote in jail. which is a possibility, but nobody thinks that could happen. >> governor, what do you think is going to happen? just the idea that the person next in line to become speaker if republicans win back the house might defy a subpoena within his own chamber. is that, does that, has that ever happened before? >> anderson, you know, there are a lot of people that watch you and people say what about this january 6th? particularly people who are sort of trump like or whatever. think about this for a second because i'll never forget that day. there was a violent attack on the capitol to prevent the transfer of power. when i watch this january 6th committee, i've been impressed with the fact there have been
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few leaks. that tells me they don't have anything or they have something very big. and something that could go all the way to damaging donald trump. we're going to have to see. in terms of what they're doing here, they're going to do everything they can to get to the bottom of this and anderson, we have to get to the bottom of this. this was an unprecedented attack by americans on our own capitol to prevent the transfer of power in a legitimate election. you just cannot ignore this or just kind of go easy on it. we've got to get to the bottom. >> but it seems like all of these representatives, these are sitting representatives who were called. >> oh, i think they're probably going to ignore it. and then the committee as dana just went therough, has options but at the end of the day, they're going to continue to pursue, pursue, pursue. they've interviewed so many people. they have so many documents. i think if it's possible that this whole country may be fixed
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on that, those hearings that are going to occur. six days of hearings. and i hope that every, all the networks, everybody covers this because anderson, this is as serious as it gets in our country. >> john, we're only about seven months away now until the midterm elections. if republicans win back the house, investigation is likely to shut down or vastly altered. do you think the subpoena lawmakers would just run out the clock? >> i certainly think they'd try and it's very difficult to bring a lawsuit in this situation because it's so narrow what they could do. they can only do what's been tried before. which is to say the committee is not properly constituted. every time that's been raised as a defense against a subpoena, it's lost. they can say that the debate clause precludes it when the language in the debate clause actually says they can be interviewed by that body. so there's very little they can do, but that's one of the stalling techniques that's been
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pretty standard operating procedure. so i think they will try to run it out somehow. >> dana, all the stuff you mentioned, having their office budgets maybe, you know, curtailed or something, does, don't we live in an age where people just get away with, there is no shame anymore, so why would they respond to even though they're sitting members of congress and this is a commission on lawful subpoena. wouldn't they just not respond at all and in the end, what's really going to happen to them? doesn't seem like anything. >> yeah. it is the question in the modern age. you put things out there, things like a subpoena for a sitting member of congress. five of them, which has precedent that we can't find in modern time. and not that long ago, this would have been an earth shattering and a shuttering notion for each of these five members. >> right now, this is a fund raising moment.
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>> exactly. and if you think, precisely. if you think about kevin mccarthy in particular, he's somebody who looks like they're trying to get information from whereas some of the others, they think they might have been involved in what happened. but for him, if he defies this, which there's no indication he won't try to, let's say he becomes speaker of the house. how do you govern a house when you are constitutional officer, which is the speaker of the house, when you just six months ago or within the last year, defied a subpoena by a sitting committee? it's almost hard to wrap your mind around and yet your point is the exact right one, anderson. in today's day and age, what do they have to lose? >> yeah, governor kasich, is ruling really the concern there down the road for speaker mccarthy or is, you know, getting into that position in the first place and for that, you need donald trump and for that, you need not to testify.
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>> well, you know, anderson, it's appearing as though they're just willing to sell their souls in order to have power. and that's what's so sad. and that's why this is so important to get to the bottom of this because maybe some americans, maybe some americans will wake up. i'm not sure that not matter what they hear, some americans are going to say it was nothing. and think about it. i just saw a picture the other day of a couple of security guards who had guns aimed at the front door. i used to go through those doors. 18 years i went through those doors and there they are barricaded in there with pistols aimed at people who wanted to break in that and hurt people and try to stop the transfer of power. and what dana just said, when i was in congress, if you were giv given a subpoena or faced some sort of a transfer over to the justice department, you'd be run out of town. your people at home would just say i can't believe it. but you know what?
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it's a different time. but the pendulum's going to swing back. i'm telling you, at some point, this pendulum's going to swing back or the country's in deep trouble. >> john kasich, dana bash, john dean, thank you. something we don't get to see often while covering the war in ukraine in the last several weeks, up close, candid images of the fight in the east. it is very difficult for journalists to get access to the front lines. lindsey from "the new york times" who did. she joins us ahead. also later, covid in shanghai. if you haven't been following this story, it is just stunning what has gone on. david culver was finally able to leave his apartment after living for weeks under the city's incredibly strict lockdown. his story. you have to see this. when we come back. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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have been from the air. from drones, but this next video is different and that's why it's important. it is very up close. ukrainian defense from inside. it was posted today by the batallion who has been fighting there. russian forces have largely withdrawn from the area so we should note the fighting you're about to see the likely not recent, though the exact date is unclear. take a look. [ bombs ]
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that's said to be the steel plant. further east, forces are engaged in nearly constant combat. for that reason, getting images there has been increasingly difficult. it's been very hard to get access to the front lines by ukrainian forces. we have some images tonight taken by "the new york times" photojournalist, lindsey dario
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who was with the ukrainian military on the front. she joins us now. appreciate you joining us again. you were with ukrainian soldiers on the front lines in the east in the kharkiv region. what did you witness? >> reporter: i mean, this is pretty terrifying war because it's artillery. just getting to the front is, it's difficult because it's hard to get soldiers to actually take us up and when we get there, you know, there's always this preface that we have no idea what will happen. it's all unpredictable. there is shelling constantly. you know, the position we went to was about less than a mile from the russian forces and so yesterday we went to this position. we had to drive as fast as we could along an open road because russians shell that road routinely and they can see it with tank shells and any type of
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artillery. we got to a position, we had to run out of the car, run into this building and into a basement and it was incredible. the entire position is underground. the soldiers only go out a handful at a time to go if they have to sort of defend the position, but really the entire position is underground. >> in one of the photographs, there's a ukrainian soldier who is looking at surveillance, drone surveillance images. can you just talk about that a little bit? >> reporter: he was a drone operator. they film often the attacks that they do against russian forces so they have drones flying like the russians do. he was just going over the footage with, i guess, his guys because when we walked up, that was exactly the scene that i saw kind of as i came upon them. they were looking at this
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explosion that they had performed. >> in a number of the other photos, it just seems like soldiers are at rest, kind of you know, in a little bit of down time and you get a sense of kind of the life inside this bunker is the right way to call it, this position. they're smoking. they're on a cell phone. they're talking with each other. this batallion seems like it's a diverse unit with people from a variety of countries as well. >> reporter: yeah. it was interesting because when we first came up, there was a guy sleeping. you can get is sense that whenever they could, when you have the chance to sleep, you sleep. when you have a chance to eat, you eat. everyone was cleaning their weapons then relaxing and then at some point, a tank round hit the building and the whole building shook and then my colleague, michael schwartz came over and said there's small arms fire outside. i said that's impossible. like, i haven't heard small arms
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fire at all. and in fact, it sounded like it was literally outside, ricochetting off the walls and we were below ground. so a handful of guys went out. but essentially, the entire position is underground. so you know, there were soldiers, everyone put on their flap jackets and helmets and grabbed their weapons and were ready to go out if necessary, but it's so dangerous with tank rounds flying around and all the artillery that the russians are using that no one goes out unless they absolutely have to. >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you, when i saw these pictures, i just think it's so important what you're doing. i have this feeling that people are no longer as engaged, you kno know, in the u.s. and elsewhere around the world about what's going on in ukraine because they're not seeing images of what's actually happening. it's harder and harder to get images and images that are verified of what it is that you're looking at.
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it's why it's so important what you're doing. these images do give you a sense of being, you know, in that position with those troops. do you feel that sometimes when you're in a place, do you feel interest slipping away from back home sometimes? >> absolutely. especially now. i mean, you know, when i was here the first time around, i was here for six weeks and people were so engaged and i was getting all these messages from you know, people i know. people i don't know saying thank you for your coverage and really sort of engaged with what was happening to ukrainian people and on the front line. and now it's just sort of, you know, i think people have kind of moved on, as you said. and i think you know, our job, my job as a journalist, my job as a photographer, is to make people care, right, and to give them a sense of what's happening on the ground. sometimes it's easier with certain wars where we have good access and sometimes it's just not.
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>> thank you so much. stay safe. >> thanks, anderson. there is much more ahead tonight. the white house marking a somber milestone today. one million people killed by covid in this country. someone we've talked to more than anyone over the course of the pandemic, dr. sanjay gupta. ♪ if you find yourself on your feet all day, why not put a little spring in your step? it's time to try weathertech's new anti-fatigue comfortmat, for home or workplace. ♪
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staggering moment at the white house this morning. >> today, we mark a tragic milestone here in the united states. 1 million covid deaths. 1 million empty chairs around the family dinner table. each irreplaceable. >> a million lives lost. it's about the population of san jose, california. a once unthinkable milestone. in may 2020, the first months of the pandemic, more than 72,000 deaths were projected and some thought that would never happen. then just days later, doubled to 134,000 projected deaths and kept climbing higher. president biden mourned the 1 million deaths as he virtually hosted world leaders for a summit on covid. this comes as the president is calling on congress to authorize $10 billion in new funding to fight the virus. it's a scale down request after more than $22 billion was stripped from the spending bill. the white house estimates 100
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million people listen infected this fall and winter, though they aren't revealing their models. right now, covid cases are up in 44 states in the past two weeks. only five shown in yellow are steady, colorado in green is down slightly. joining us you, dr. sanjay gupta. so more than two years ago, sanjay, when this started spreading, the thought of 1 million deaths in the u.s., were people talking about that? i can't even remember that far back. >> i think initially, the idea of just how much mortality that would cause, was it a .5% mortality and if that was the case, then you were talking about more than a million people dying. but i think pretty quickly, people felt that we can certainly try and control things and after the vaccines came out at the end of 2020, i thought for sure you know people thought the models would come way down in terms of deaths overall. but i was just calculating, anderson. since the vaccines were
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authorized, close to 700,000 people have died despite how effective these vaccines are. i look at south korea only because the first patient was diagnosed there on the same day the first patient was diagnosed in the united states. they've had 23,000 people die over the same time period. they didn't have anything we didn't have. they just did things obviously more quickly and more consistently in terms of testing and masks. so it's a gut punch, anderson. i know so many of these families who have lost people and they don't like to hear that you know, 700,000 deaths. >> that's incredible. that more people have died since the vaccine than before the vaccine. >> yeah. exactly. i mean, and we know just how effective the vaccines can be. and remain and still to this point, we don't have enough people who have enough vaccine acquired immunity and we're learning more and more that
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infection acquired immunity can be effective for a period of time, but it wanes and that's why we continue to see these waves like the map you're showing now. a lot of people are looking at this in the rear-view mirror, but 45 states are heading in the wrong direction. >> what do you make of the estimate from the white house, the surge this fall and winter could result in new covid infections? >> these are models and as we've said, models are only as good as the assumptions you put into them. if you look at omicron, we were blind sided by it. delta surprised us. omicron blind sided us. it was about ten weeks where you had more than 100 million cases in the united states. so, yeah, i think that it is quite possible that within a five-month period, four-month period, this fall and winter, we could have a lot more cases. i think the big question is going to be, anderson, how much immunity, how much effective immunity will we have at this time? if you look at other countries where you get the huge spikes of
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infections, you get about three to four months of protection then another spike. so if people aren't boostered, if they don't have immunity going into the surge, that's going to be a problem. the virus is contagious. you've probably heard people who hasn't gotten this infection all along and are now getting it. it's that contagious. >> i lasted two years without getting it then got it. >> i know. it's tough. people, as careful as they may be, they could still get this. i think the big question is going to be how much immunity do they have at that time. even if you've had the vaccine, the protection from the vaccine does wane over time. i think that's become increasingly clear so are people being more judicious about getting boosters, especially going into a possible surge. >> appreciate it. thank you. up next, big surge in the pennsylvania senate race by kathy barnett has gotten the attention of many, including the former president and former talk
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getting guns off our streets. one democrat's determined to get it done. attorney general rob bonta knows safer streets start with smarter gun control. and bonta says we must ban assault weapons. but eric early, a trump republican who goes too far defending the nra and would loosen laws on ammunition and gun sales. because for him, protecting the second amendment is everything. eric early. too extreme, too conservative for california. fanduel and draftkings,
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too conservative two out of state corporations making big promises to californians. what's the real math behind their ballot measure for online sports betting? 90% of profits go to the out of state corporations permanently. only eight and a half cents is left for the homeless. and in virginia, arizona, and other states, fanduel and draftkings use loopholes to pay far less than was promised. sound familiar? it should. it's another bad scheme for california. fgloves are off in pennsylvania's senate primary. once unfamiliar names getting a lot of attention. kathy barnett, the army reserve veteran is elected, she would become pennsylvania's first
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black senator. she's facing more scrutiny. on the trail for us tonight is jeff szellny. >> for months, she campaigned across pennsylvania, drawing attention yet remaining largely an afterthought in the republican senate race. from the outside, the rate played out as vicious, two-man brawl. >> dishonest dave is at it again. >> fueled by big money and big names of tv celebrity, dr. mehmet oz and david mccormick. former head of the world's largest head fund. but less than a week from the election, barnette is sending shock waves across the gop and provoked this warning. she will never be able to win the general election against the radical left. tonight, she gently disagreed. >> i look forward to working with the president, so thank you so much. i would agree. >> in one of the most closely watched senate races in the
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country, which democrats offers the best chance to pick up a seat to hold their majority, a messy family feud deep inside the maga movement is spilling out for all to see. >> maga does not belong to president trump. maga, although he's coined the word, it belongs to the people. our values never, never shifted to president trump's values. >> a compelling personal story sparked interest in her candidacy. >> i'm a little black girl from a pig farm in southern alabama who grew up in a home with no running water, no insulation, an outhouse in the back and a well on the side. >> and her campaign roared to life as she pushed utterly false claims the election was stolen. she's linked her candidacy to the front-runner in the gop governor's race here. suddenly as polls show a three-way contest, rival republicans are in a mad scramble to scrutinize her background in hopes of slowing her surprising rise.
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>> she is a mystery person. we don't know much about her. >> an outside group backing oz also weighed in. >> meet crazy kathy barnette. >> a cnn review found she has a history of making anti muslim and anti gay statements. she also spread the false conspiracy theory former president obama is a muslim. it's an open question whether the criticism will animate or turn off the supporters. the conservative club for growth has her back, booking $2 million in ads to promote her candidacy. what drew you to her? >> she's an authentic person. >> when asked about trump's endorsement of oz and his blistering words, kristen dale had this to say. >> he had this one wrong. >> is there any wing of the republican party that isn't going after barnette?
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>> there's not. really from the establishment corner of the republican party to trump's side, they're all taking aim at kathy barnette. this is why it matters. the pennsylvania seat is an open seat. senator pat toomey republican is retiring. democrats see it as their biggest opportunity to pick up a seat in their quest to hold a majority. that's why this seat matters more than anything else. but she is popular among the republican trump base, if you will. talking to voters here tonight, they say they like what she says. she's authentic and real. the question for the next four days here has president trump unleashed something he cannot control inside his maga movement? we'll find out on tuesday. >> thanks very much. that is frustration and outrage and chaos for weeks in
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weeks in his apartment, bringing us stories of residents unable to leave their homes. here's the story of his journey now. >> reporter: leaving shanghai today is a one-time, one-way journey. i've not had this much freedom in 50 days. but here we go. off to the airport. heading out for the first time since mid-march, it all feels so strange. the people you see out and about, most of them are head to toe in hazmat suits. ropes are still blocking off sidewalks, stores, basically all closed. with the government permitted driver, we pass through check points. our documents thoroughly inspected including a letter from the american embassy. many expats like me needing diplomatic letters just to leave our apartments. once vibrant and rich with energy, shanghai was forced into
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an induced coma. the rolling lockdowns began in mid-march, but by april, this city of more than 25 million people, was under strict, harsh lockdown. most of us sealed inside our homes. community covid tests after test after test and in between, at-home covid tests. i've done quite a few of these. early into the lockdown, i packed a go bag for most of us would prefer to recover in the privacy of our home. in china's zero covid world, th that's not an option. shocking scenes of people shouting, "we are starving, we are starving" and people being reject of medical care and some people are dying.
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witnesses of shanghai's handling or mishandling reminded me of wuhan. it is the wildlife of seafood market. still fresh in my mind. some losing loved ones to covid early on. they risk their freedom to share with us their painful stories, furious with their government for not doing more to stop the initial spread. chinese officials maintained they were transparent from the start. and in recent days president xi jinping reaffirmed and praised his country's zero covid efforts. over the past two years, we lived through china's military mobilization, rapidly building hospitals and testing tens of
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millions one time and contact tracing system and sealing off their border to the outside world. wanting to keep on the story? i have not left china since 2019. making this departure a long overdue coming home visit. shanghai airport, once men the busiest in the world and is now the lonely experience. only two international flights elated to leave on this day. on the floor, sleeping bags, travelers camped out. they waited fear his or weeks o for a flight out. the near empty plane, it finally starts to feel real. the disorder, despair and the chaos and the anger, the exhaustion -- all of it feels so
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distance now. with a sigh of relief and a bit of survivor's guilt, leaving behind a country of unprecedented changes. i wonder if china's zero covid restrictions and rising tensions in the west will keep its shutter doors from ever reopening. >> i can't believe what you have been through. it is almost getting worse in some apartment buildings if one person tests positive for covid, the whole building has to go into quarantine or the whole floor. >> i am on my neighborhood group chats still and i am seeing them as they are expressing their frustration. it is a new policy that's come into effect. it is certainly been carried out. and if your neighbor is sick and if that neighbor is three floors up and have not left their apartment, the entire building is being taken to --
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>> when you said being taken to - take a look at this video they're coming for one family. it is like a scene out of "the shining." >> this is a scene in a zombie zone. >> what they're saying is roughly this is not america. you can't have it the way you want. we have to enforce these policies that we are being told and have to go in effect. they're doing it physically and they are dragging people in if they have to and however long it takes. >> i keep thinking, okay, you take a test and you can go inside. no, you are still locked in your apartment. what's changed now is the at-home pcr test. you take that to the community
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test and you have to have a negative antigen test. you struggle to find the common sense. >> where does the end point and where does it end? >> we don't know. that's where the hopeless comes in, too. >> you are not testing to get out. you are testing to be locked in. >> and you are nervous when you test and you don't know where the lights are going to come. >> it is so unbelievable and difficult for so many people. welcome back. the first image of the super black hole o of the center of o milky way galaxy. wealth is shutting down the office for mike's retirement party. worth is giving the employee who spent half his life with you, the party of a lifetime. ♪ ♪ wealth is watching your business grow. worth is watching your employees grow with it.
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ec ec for the first timever, a black hole is captured sits in the heart of the milky way, it is about 27,000 light years away
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from our planet. the picture shows the shadow of a black hole surrounded by a light ring which is light bent by the gravity of the black hole. it is four million times more massive than our sun. if we could see it at night, it would have been the same size of a donut sitting on the moon. it took astronomers to capture and confirm this image. 300 researchers from 80 institutions working with the event horizon tells us. the news continues. >> that was a donut sitting on the moon. very visual, that's what i took about that is and something about the milky way. anderson, thank you so much. i am laura coats and this is "cnn tonight." to be a fly on the wall in tha