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in ukraine, president volodymyr zelenskyy tonight saying russia has lost almost 27,000 soldiers in its unprovoked war. >> today, we can report only 200 downed russian aircraft. russia has not lost so many aircraft in decades and russia has lost almost 27,000 soldiers. >> need to tell you cnn cannot ip dependently confirm that number but it would be a stunning blow for russia. and just look at this. ukraine says it blew up a russian helicopter on snake island. famous for that now-classic russian warship go eff yourself exchange. that, as vladimir putin may be getting exactly what he doesn't want, meaning finland and poe ten shlly sweden moving closer to joining nato, amid fears of russian aggression and in the face of that, a warning from lloyd austin to all of russia urgently calling for immediate cease-fire in ukraine.
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meanwhile, one challenge on top of another for the president of the united states, joe biden. ukraine, inflation, the markets, and now a nationwide shortage of baby formula. the president pushing back when asked if he could have acted sooner. >> if we had been better mind readers, i guess we could have. but we moved as quickly as the problem became apparent to us. and we have to move with caution, as well as speed because we got to make sure what we're getting is, in fact, first-rate product. >> so the baby formula shortage coming in the middle of worldwide shortages of grain and cooking oil. what can we do to make food supplies more stable in an unstable world? and we have got shocking video tonight. watch what happened -- this is jerusalem -- it is at a funeral of an al jazeera journalist who was shot dead while she was reporting. cnn's atika shubert was there. >> reporter: as the funeral procession began, israeli riot police first blocked the coffin from moving forward, then
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charged. hitting several pallbearers with batons. the coffin nearly falling to the ground. the procession tried to walk out out, israeli police did not allow it. >> we have more from atika's report coming up but i want to get to nick paton walsh's report from just outside the northern city of kharkiv, where russia's retreat from the area is revealing the brutality of the war. >> reporter: charred, chewed, northern kharkiv's scars seem infinite. putin's troops breathing artillery fire down the neck of this city of a million for two months. but even still, it's shock to see just how close the russians got on the other side of this road. we are told this is from demining, a controlled blast. yet, here everything is fluid.
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ukraine stopped russia's advance here on the first day of the war, killing two soldiers by this armor. three civilians, shot dead in this car then and their bodies recovered only two days ago. >> you can see the colossal force used here. the village lies ahead, liberated days earlier. people are starting to go back, he said, but they are still shelling it. two women died two days ago when they walk on to tripwire traps set in the village, and even around these factories, special forces here warn us a soldier was wounded by a boobytrap three days ago. still a deranged sign of their collective insanity even two
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months on. why do they do this? >> they say they reclaim this area about a weak week ago but look around here. there is really not much left to make safe. these civilians evacuated from the next village, just two kilometers away. it is a nightmare, she says. desperation takes different forms here. and caught by another kind of survival is dmitry whose wife moved away a while ago. bringing back food for his six dogs. i haven't really left home for two months he said. i cross the fields, past the bomb fragments to get the food. his gentle stroll in the open, a sign how long the violence has sweld here, not that it is slowing. now, don, we understand that
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tonight, as in previous nights, that village has been shelled by russian forces. and it is part of a pattern that we are seeing here. yes, the russians retreat. they pull back closer towards their border but they shell the things that are in their wake, making ordinary life very hard to return here. but there is no question that russia i russia is being pushed back toward its border and regaining control of large swaths of the areas around kharkiv's north. there are, too, it seem, ukrainian forces pushing east and that may threaten some of russia's key supply lines, particularly those that go down from inside ukraine that is kind of near belgorod, one of the main cities russia has on the border here from luhansk all the way down to izyum, one of russia's key fronts on their bid to exercise greater control over donbas. and, don, you just got to ask yourself. here we are so far into the sort of second phase, the reset, if
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you like, of russia's unprovoked invasion. no move really for hem in the south, to speak of. nothing significant. stalemate there. in the east, maybe some incremental moves forward. slowly perhaps, yes. even ukrainian officials accept that. but here, to the north of kharkiv, frankly, something which i am sure russian military plans would have thought would be easier to take early on, supply lines are potentially at risk. when russia controls of its narrative here again, i don't know what we are looking at here is a stalemate, if not slow collapse of their positions, don. >> nick paton walsh, thank you very much for that. new tonight. defense secretary lloyd austin speaking with his russian counterpart for the first time since russia's invasion of ukraine started. here to discuss, former defense secretary william cohen. good evening, secretary. thanks so much. ukraine president zelenskyy tonight claimed that 27,000 russian soldiers have been killed. if that is true, that is a huge loss for the russian military, no?
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>> it would be a major loss for the russians and coming in such a short time. if you compare the number of soldiers they lost when they were in afghanistan, in the period of time during ten years, would not amount to what's happened in just two months, more than two months. >> the defense secretary, lloyd austin, as i said in my introduction to you, speaking with the russian minister of defense, sergei shoigu for the first time since february 18th. austin urged for an immediate cease-fire, so take us inside that conversation, if you will. just how tough would alwustin b with his russian count part? >> i don't think it would be a tough call at this point. the most important thing is the secretary of defense made -- took the initiative, and has as i understand it taken the initiative to try and send some message or establish some line of communication with his counterpart and that is a good thing to do if we can because the longer there war goes on,
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rather than special mission, the longer this war goes on, the more likely it is or probable it is that we are going to have some miscalculation and, therefore, expanded into much wider war than it is today. so it was a good thing. i think the secretary of defense and they only talked for a short time. by the time you get through the translation, cut it in half and, therefore, it was a short conversation. i think the secretary austin can judge from the tone of the general on the other side or his minister on the other side of the -- of the phone call -- he can tell by tone perhaps whether there is any anxiety, any -- any real sense of, um, an ability to communicate going forward. so, you can learn something in a call like that but i don't think it was a call, hey, we want a cease-fire and you better have a cease-fire. i don't think that is the kind of call. i think he is saying it is a good thing if we have a cease-fire and stop the slaughter that is taking place, and talk about ways in which we
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can resolve all of our differences but i don't think it is a call where you call up in a harsh tone saying you better do this. it's just not the way it is done. >> the pentagon, secretary, is saying if congress does not pass that $40 billion ukraine aid supplemental by next thursday, that it will start impacting the united states' ability to provide military aid uninterrupted. so rand paul blocked it saying he wants more oversight before he will vote yes. what is the impact of this possible delay? >> time is of the essence. every day, every hour, every day, someone is in danger of dying. some ukrainian citizen or soldier is in danger of dying, so time is of the essence. i don't think anyone questions whether you need to have more oversight with inspectors general. but the timing here is critical and i would point out the -- the inconsistency of those who are holding this up how rand was holding this up. go back to may. i think it was may of 2020.
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donald trump fired five inspectors general in a period of six weeks. and the inspectors general in the department of defense, intelligence, transportation, health and human services, those and others, i think, were fired and very little criticism coming from republicans. maybe one or two or three. i don't know if senator rand paul was part of those who objected, but it seems to me, when you are talking about firing inspectors general, rather than here where we are trying to get as much material, food, ammunition, fuel, everything that has to go to carry this war on, time is of the essence and you delay this until next week or thereafter, you are putting everybody's on our -- on the -- um -- ukrainian side, to be sure, putting them at risk. and you are putting them behind the curve, in trying to quote wa weaken the ability of the russians to carry on this war. >> speaking of what is going on, the ability to go on with this war. senior-u.s. official says
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ukrainian artillery is, quote, frustrating russian' efforts to advance in the donbas and there is a lot of fighting but not a lot of progress for russian forces in key-eastern cities. what happens if russia cannot meet any of its goals in the east? >> well, i think they will continue. i don't think russia's going away. they -- as i have indicated before, i think putin might try to call a cease-fire at this particular point. something i don't think president zelenskyy could agree to. but nonetheless, that would put the burden on west of the west and those who were support ug crane to say perhaps there is a way to negotiate an end to this on a more timely basis. um but i think at this point, putin is not going away. i don't think he can afford to be seen as losing it, not only not to mention losing it in its entirety. i think it will be a crushing blow for him, call into question his leadership, and perhaps even stimulate some kind of a -- a reaction amongst the russian people. criticizing what he has done,
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mistakes he has made, and the barbarity with which he has pursued this war. the barbarity of the futility of it all, and the insanity of it all. so, i think he has a lot to account for to the russian people. >> there is stunning video of the fighting at that steel plant in mariupol. let's play it and then we will talk about it. i mean, the first thought i hear is damn. the situation on the ground is brutal.
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it is like something out of world war ii. what do you think when you see ukrainian forces, what they are up against? >> well, they are up against great odds. the russians have far more soldiers, more capability, in terms of arms and -- and supplies at this point. but what they don't have is the will to fight that the ukrainian soldiers are are demonstrating. after this two and a half months, they are still fighting and they are vastly outnumbered and these soldiers have been under that plant for all of this time with limited food, with limited ability to fight, and they are carrying it on. it's something that the russians, i don't think have the same will to fight that they do. so, all we can do is say these are real martyrs who were determined to fight to the death and we need to do all we can to help get -- help to them, those who are wounded, to get them out. and to those who are still there and want to fight, continue to supply them if we can. >> thank you, secretary. be well. see you soon. >> good to be with you.
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a lot of big political stories on the agenda tonight from the white house, to the campaign trail in pennsylvania and georgia. lot to discuss with cnn senior political correspondent, abby phillip. political commentators, paul begala and charlie dent, former republican congressman from pennsylvania who, by the way, abby says is showing off because pep pen is in the spotlight right now and i must agree with her as well. good evening to you. i am going to start with abby. abby, the white house is really facing etore muss challenges. inflation, baby formula issue, plus the republicans looking like they are about to overturn roe. does the white house have a handle on all this? >> i think it'd be hard to say they really have a handle on it because some of it is completely outside of their control. they can't do really anything
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about the inflation issue. they really can't do anything about what the court might do on the issue of roe. all they can do is take the hand that they have been dealt, and try to turn it to their advantage as best as they can. i think the one thing about this baby formula crisis, in particular, that i think is so conc concerning from a political perspective for the white house is that it almost has become kind of a symbol of the larger problems in the economy, and the larger problems that american families are facing. things that people need are not knot where they need them, when they need them and that isological is really the heart of the matter and discontent and that is why you have seen the white house moving so urgently to try to address this issue to stop it from getting worse before it becomes even more of a political football. >> paul, then, there is house republicans. they want payback after the january-6th committee subpoenaed five of their -- their members.
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cnn is reporting tonight if they win back the majority, they are looking to subpoena house speaker nancy pelosi, other top demo democrats. how messy could this get? and we don't have all night because i know it could get pretty messy but go on. >> it could get awfully -- what are they so afraid of? i am in austin. i was visiting university of texas, where i went. main building there, etched in step, ye shall know the truth and the truth shall set you free. well, apparently, the truth will scare the daylights out of you. why are they so afraid about simply telling the truth about what happened on january 6th? i think we have a right to that. we pay their salary. we, citizens. so i am really -- it's very curious a dog will bark. terrible worries over on the republican side. >> as a southerner, the phrase is a hit dog will holla. got it? >> i got to bring you in. can we talk about the
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former-vice president mike pence? i mean, he is going to campaign for top-trump target, georgia governor brian kemp, while trump is endorsing his opponent, david perdue. is he trying to make a clear break a year after the maga mob sicked on him? >> mike pence is going down there to endorse the likely winner of the primary, and donald trump has already endorsed the likely loser of the primary. so this may make pence look much stronger than trump in this case, and look, pence really has no future or not much of a future with the maga movement. they are still mad about him about january 6th. you heard all the hang mike pence chants in the gallows. so he figures he might as well try to drive a contrast with the former president, wherever he can, and especially when in this case, he is going to be on the winning side. >> abby, the president has
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started slamming republicans and their what he called ultra-maga policies. listen to this. >> under my predecessor -- the great maga king -- the deficit increased every single year he was president. i never expected the ultra-maga republicans who seem to control the republican party now to have been able to control the republican party. this maga crowd is really the most extreme political organization that's existed in american history. recent american history. >> okay. listen. abby, my question was for you but i got to say, paul, were you wincing when he answered that? when he said the ultra maga crowd? was that a wince from you? >> no, that was a smile. i think when ole joe is in there throwing some punches. he needs to connect to people's lives. those maga people are against child tax credit, they are against universal pre-k, they are against cheaper prescription
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drugs. tell us, mr. president, why that -- those maga crowd -- why they are so, um, damaging to the middle class. and he is -- he is doing that and i am very happy with how he is doing. >> but really, "the washington post" is reporting this shift stems from months of polling which found in battleground states, more than twice as many voters said they would be less likely to vote for a maga republican than they would likely to be to vote for someone else or another republican. will this tougher talk work? >> yeah. i mean, what the white house is recognizing is that the generic republican -- if you are a generic republican, you could be literally anybody in the world, you might perform better than a generic democrat in this environment. but what, you know, their researchers and pollsters are arguing is that if you slap the maga label on them, they stop being a generic republican, and start becoming something else that has negative connotations to a lot of voters. i was interested to see, you know, one of former-president
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trump's advisers telling "the post" that maga is the most successful political brand in -- in american history. and that might be true, but it's also a political brand that lost the last election. and so, that is what the white house is keying in on. maga is associated with trump, which is -- was the loser the last time around. and i think they -- they believe that if they can make this a real choice, not between two generic candidates but between the status quo and something that has negative connotation, they can beat back some of the environment that is really, really bad for democrats all over the country right now. >> charlie, if you want to get in there, you have to get paul's facial expressions because abby was talking, looks like he wanted to jump in. people are hurting, struggling with gas prices, paul, food shortages. biden is going to look like he is just about focused on politics trying to distract from issues that they care about that he can't seem to solve, no? >> no. the reason that -- that stuff -- some of it is snagged is because
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the republicans won't support it. every single -- almost every single republican voted to send $2 trillion of our tax money to corporate america who wh donald trump was president, even though they were at a record high. now, those same republicans are against helping middle class, helping with childcare, and pre-k, and prescription drugs, and health insurance and community college. so, i think it is a great contrast. he got lelkt elected not so much left-right. itself up-down. and the voters he needs think much more in terms of the populist messages than the left-right messages analysts focus on. >> charlie, "the post" -- i want to get this question in for you -- some trump followers are embracing the ultra ma ga label. representative elise stefanik says she is ultra maga and proud of it. what do you think this will mean for both sides as we are discussing here? >> well, i think biden is probably right to try to draw a contrast with some of these
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really extreme maga types. look in tpennsylvania, gubernatorial candidate, doug mastriano, and this senate candidate, kathy barnett. they are oh way on the fringe and the democrats are salivating, hoping they are nominating because this the gubernatorial race, they will win. they will win a race and likely win the senate race, should she be nominated. so yes, anytime you get these candidates so far on the fringe and most of them aren't, by the way. but -- but in pep nnsylvania, i is like we could have a terrible double-nightmare scenario going into this election. while the wind is in the democrats' face and i disagree with paul a little bit. i have been to scranton many times. i don't think biden is doing so well up there in the county because of where they have been on the economy, especially with, you know, inflation. prices going up and supply shortages. and i think they went too big with build back better on top of
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6 trillion in spending so i think there real challenge force them. >> tuesday night, you said it could be a double whammy? what did you say? >> yeah, it is a double disaster. this is -- the gop is in full-panic mode. it's full-panic mode. this mastriano. this guy is way out there. i mean, don, you guys have done stories on him. same with this kathy barnett. she is un-vetted. and she is -- she is -- this is a train wreck that could happen, should -- should she win and he win, and they have endorsed each other to make it even worse. so, josh shapiro, the democrat gubernatorial candidate has got to be thrilled to pieces and will likely face john fetterman in the senate race which is -- he is going to be a tougher candidate for democrats to get through. >> somebody knows pennsylvania' politics. thank you, all. abby was right. he is showing off. thank you, guys. thank you so much. >> he is ready for tuesday. >> ha, ha, ha, yes, he is. we all are. see you guys on tuesday leading our coverage. thank you so much. have a great weekend.
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what they need to feed their babies? formula stockpiles are 43% lower than normal. the white house announcing efforts this week to address the shortage, including importing more formula from overseas, and calling on the ftc to crack down on any price gouging. so, president joe biden pushing back today on criticism for not acting sooner, saying the administration moved as quickly as the problem became apparent. joining me to discuss, the senior food and agriculture reporter at "politico," who has been all over this story. hey, helena, thank you for joining us. it is fascinating. i am so glad that you are here, so good evening to you. president biden sounding somewhat defensive about whether his administration could have done something sooner, and you have been covering this crisis for weeks now. could they have done something sooner? done more sooner? >> well, i think it's important to note that this has really been brewing for months, if not years. so, infant formula supplies were
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actually pretty tight last summer. they got worst, stocking rates got worse over the holidays. i was already hearing from parents complaining about supply, and then we had a massive recall of some of the biggest brands in the country in february. so this has been -- i am calling it a slow-moving train wreck. it has been building for a long time. um, but part of it was, you know, in response to a safety concern. so it's hard to say whether or not, you know, biden himself, you know, acted -- didn't act here. certainly, republicans are seizing on that. and you are hearing just relentless attacks from republican lawmakers trying to pin as much as blame as possible on the president directly. clearly, they see some political points to be gained here. >> so that massive recall you spoke about is from -- it was abbott nutrition, that was in february. but manufacturers are now saying they are producing at full capacity. so, why is this shortage still as dire as it is, helena? >> it is a really good question. i am not sure we have that fully
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figured out. there are a lot of questions here. the fda is saying that, actually, we are producing more formula by volume than we were before the recall, so it is not actually that we don't have enough formula. it's that it's very unevenly distributed. it is clearly not getting to the right places fast enough. where you live and what retailer you shop at, it makes a huge difference here. so, i am seeing a lot of variability. some places, the out-of-stock rates might be over 50%. other places, it is 80%, which is a little bit more normal. so it's really hard to get a grasp of the national picture here, but certainly parents are stressed about this. they are struggling to find the exact type of formula they need, and really folks with special-medical needs are very, very -- um -- worried about the supply of some of these formulas. this plant had a near monopoly on a certain type of formula that is used by thousands of folks with metabolic conditions,
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and other unique medical needs literally to survive. so i have been on the phone with parents just crying, very stressed about when this is going to get resolved. >> and it is not just baby formula. we are seeing disruption in shortages of grain and cooking oil due to the war in ukraine and other factors as well, helena. how bad could this be for the global-food supply, including here in the u.s.? >> yeah, i think world leaders are very concerned about skyrocketing food prices. uh, war in ukraine -- russia's war against ukraine has really exacerbated what was raialready tough situation. food prices were already increasing. we have been seeing inflation broadly and supply-chain disruptions and, you know, labor tightening throughout the pandemic. and this -- this war has made things much, much more serious. prices are going up sharply. cooking oil, wheat. some of these staples are
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really, really important, and ukraine, you know, was a major supplier, particularly for the middle east and africa. and folks are right to be very concerned about this. >> yeah. you just mentioned it but i just want to make it clear. let's put back up -- that full screen back up. food prices are spiking. they are up 9 point -- they are up 9% overall, excuse me, in the last year. margarine is up nearly 24%. eggs up nearly 23%. are there other causes than the war causing these huge increases? because, you know, the biden administration's saying oh, it's a war and it's -- but it's got to be other things, it's not just the war? >> you know, global food prices are actually up a lot higher than that. so, we are -- we are a little bit more protected from commodity prices here in the u.s. um, we are very blessed with an abundant and, you know, relatively affordable food supply. so, we're more insulated from inflation. inflation, certainly, is hitting
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food prices. there is no question about that but we are not seeing the really intense spikes other parts of the world are contending with. one big issue here, though, and we are going to hear more about this is -- is the question of consolidation, and how resilient are supply chains really are. we are seeing this with infant formula. democrats are now asking a lot of questions about the infant formula so consolidated. four companies control nearly 90% of the market and that is true across a lot of different agricultural or pieces of the food and ag system, if you will. fertilizer, seeds, meatpacking is really consolidated so i think you are going to hear more about this, as we see prices go up and as we see supplies, you know, supply chains continue to be disrupted. >> i have to run to report something else but do you see it ease at all? is there any help for anything we discussed? >> yes. yes, i think, you know,
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global-food prices are much more urgent concern in terms of, you know, making sure that we can get the grain out of ukraine. and i know a lot of leaders are working on that trying to get ports functional, and get grain and other commodities out in other ways so this is a really urgent concern but i think in the u.s., i think the infant formula situation will improve. there is a lot of focus on this and i think parents can expect things to become much more normal in the coming weeks. hang in there. do not make your own formula. talk to your doctor if you are having trouble getting formula for your child. >> that's why we have helena on. thank you. really appreciate it. we will have you back as this continues. thanks so much. so the next story i want to talk to you about is that this -- we reported on it a little earlier this week. but thl women's lacrosse team at a historically black college, not backing down that they were racially profiled by a traffic stop.
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body cam shows going through personal items, even though the sheriff says that it didn't happen.
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so this is one of the stories -- just going to play the video for you, and let you decide. because tonight, there is new police body-cam video backing up claims by the women's lacrosse team that georgia deputies searched their bags during an alleged traffic stop violation. the sheriff claims a search of personal items did not take place. now, we are learning the university, historically black college, will file a civil rights complaint. i want to bring in cnn analyst areva martin, and joey jackson. boy, oh boy, oh boy. hello, to both of you. to, areva, a sheriff said this didn't happen but now this body-cam video, clearly showing officers going through the girls' bags and luggage.
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what is your reaction to this? i mean, why would the sheriff say there is no search when it is right there on video? >> couple things, don. we have to assume that maybe those officers that were involved in this illegal search relayed that inaccurate and false information to their boss. or maybe, their boss knew it when he was making that inaccurate statement. we have seen many police officers come forward once a crime or once some kind of incident has been committed regarding officers, and give the public a false narrative. so, this isn't the first time we have seen this. and it really makes it very difficult i think for young people in this country -- particularly, young people of color to have any trust in law enforcement when they come forward and and make such a publicly false statement that is contradicted by this body-cam video. this whole incident, don, is so disturbing. we learning about it weeks after it happened, and thank you for covering it but it wasn't
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getting a ton of national attention and i think it deserves a lot of attention. >> thank you, areva. thank you. let me jump in, though, because i dant jua you didn't think it was legal. not legal. meaning not legal. >> base on what we know, i don't see where there was any probable cause. obviously, the constitution protects individuals from unreasonable searches and seizures. if car is involved, there has to be consent given to search that vehicle. there has to be probable cause that a crime has been committed and we heard about bus driving in a lane where buses weren't supposed to drive and that was the alleged cause for the stop, to begin with. but beyond that, we see and we being told by these young girls, these officers started making all these serious accusations against them in terms of having drugs on their possessions, and start this very invasive search. but no evidence as of yet or statements by the police and i don't know if we could believe even if they were told to us but
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no evidence suggested they had probable cause for this. >> i was -- the way -- looking at the officers going through these things, i would be hot. if this was me, if it happened to me, i would be furious. by the way, cnn reached out to the sheriff, got no response. i spoke with one of the student athletes on the team' bus, watch this. >> like my coach pamela jenkins, i also felt violated and in the moment, i felt very inferior. i feel like there was nothing we could have said or done to change their actions. as delaware state women's lacrosse, we were compliant to their neesd. they said they were going to search our bags. we didn't give them any hard time. we let them do as they did. they took their k-9 and started going through our personal luggage and belongings. >> that bus was originally stopped for a minor traffic violation as areva mentioned there. no indication of any drugs on board the bus. again, the question, was this an illegal search? >> it certainly looks that way, don, good evening to you and
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areva. listen, the police certainly have the ability to stop a bus if it is engaged in any infraction, be it wrong wane or otherwise, that is one thing that is not disputed. what is disputed is the intrusion thereafter. what gives the officers the ability, thereafter, to go and be so intrusive, wherein you are looking through bags, you are plucking and doing other things. what basis did you have? what facts were there to suggest that you had reasonable suspicion of criminal activity? and so, when you have these young, brilliant ladies who are college athletes representing their school with dignity and grace going to georgia on a trip to compete, should they be subject to that humiliation? the constitution protects us all. it should have protected them. so in the event that the police got onto the bus, if there was criminality that the police noticed at that time, that is one thing. but when you see people of color and make the determination, you didn't even show the tape yet, don, i don't know if you have time to, where the officer is
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indicateling well, you know, there could be drugs here and chaperones are going to be very dispointed in the event that we find them and we know there may be something here. what gives you the basis to say that other than you see people of color who are on the bus? and so, again, to areva's very good point, absent other information presented to me, which would be clear, specific, and arctic you labl facts, there lacks probable cause and that lacking of probable cause gives the police no basis, whatsoever, with regard to searching bags or doing anything else other than giving a citation for the bus driver, saying, ladies, nice to see you all, have a nice day. it is humiliating. it's frustrating. and to the young lady's point who what was made before, brilliant student athlete who you just showed. you can't even imagine how she is feeling, her parents are feeling, how her teammates are feeling. it should not happen. we are in 2022. >> thank you, both. areva, thank you for saying we
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will continue to cover it because the story does sterch attention and we will follow it to the very end. appreciate it. see you soon. a funeral for palestinian american journalist turning violent in jerusalem. israeli police hitting mourners with batons. there it is right there. coffin almost falling to the ground.
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stricken about her death claiming she was killed by israeli schoooldiers. we have more on today's violence. >> reporter: muslim prayers a the a catholic hospital, a display of palestinian solidarity. as the funeral procession began, israeli riot police blocked the coffin from moving forward and charged sitting several paul bar berries with batons, the coffin almost falling to the ground. >> trying to walk out of the hospital gates. israeli police did not allow it. they threw tear gas and flash bombs to disburse the crowds and now it appears the hurst, the car is being brought here to try to bring the coffin out.
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israeli police insist they acted against stone throwing by mourners providing this video as evidence but cnn didn't see stones but did witness dozens of plastic bottles being thrown at police. what is clear, is that israeli police ultimately used force to try and contain this outpouring of grief and anger. she was beloved by palestinian viewers for giving them a voice and chronicling their struggles. born and raised here, jerusalem was her home. >> she meant everything to me and clearly to everyone we can see. she made a huge impact on palestine and all the people. she left her fingerprint on evening's heart. >> reporter: israeli authorities did finally permit the family to bring her coffin to the church by car. thousands of mourners were also ultimately allowed to swell the streets, carrying her atop a river of grief, anger and defiance to her final resting
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