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before headed to the steps of the supreme court. the supreme court's initial ruling could be released in weeks. a new reality awaits if the opinion doesn't change. there are 13 states with trigger states that would indicate near total ban on abortion. and 23 states have laws that would create major limits. shimon prokupecz is in washington and polo sandoval is new york for us right now. shimon, what are the activists telling you? what are you hearing so far? >> reporter: most of them out here just saying that they want to keep fighting despite this leaked draft opinion. they're not giving up hope. they think that things can change and they can perhaps prevent the supreme court from issuing a final ruling that would obviously overturn roe. that is certainly on the top of minds of many of the people here.
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concern being that this ruling, should it stand, should this draft become the actual decision of the court, it would affect underserved communities, poor communities mostly and that's something that everyone out here certainly has talked about. also, the chants we're hearing out here today, abortion is a right, we won't give up this fight. we're talking to people who are happy to be able to be out together in this fight to be as a community. i also spoke to a man from ohio -- look, jim, there are people here from all across the country who have travelled here today to be here. and he said, why would we want to go back 50 years? he said, to go back living the way we were, who wants to do that. he said, that's why he's out here with his wife fighting for women's rights he says . as you can hear the chants just to tell you where we are, we're passing the capitol now, so we're a short distance here from
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the supreme court where all of the marchers here are headed to. jim? >> how long will you be there at the supreme court, shimon? >> reporter: so this is supposed to go until at least 4:00. at least that's the information that we have. certainly when we get to the supreme court, i'm assuming there will be some counter protesters. we've seen them along the marching line here, just on the corners, just a few of them, aall across the avenue here, constitution, that they've been gathered there, using megaphones to speak, but obviously the folks here in this march are focused on one thing, they're not getting into any kind of altercations with those people, just passing them by. but the big event here now after we left the rally on the steps of the washington monument is now at the supreme court. which is where we're heading. you can see, sadly we can't give
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you an overhead shot here, but there are thousands of people here, jim. you can see holding various signs, young people, older people, people who protested the vietnam war are out here. so it continues. and as the day has gone on, the rally started around noon or so, jim, and by 2:00, hundreds of more started pouring in to the area and then they joined this march. we're now headed up this hill here on constitution avenue as we approach the supreme court, people carrying their children on their backs. you can see this one woman here bringing her daughter here, carrying her on her back. these are the signs we're seeing out here, so many families out here in support of rallying together, marching together, jim, as we make our way to the supreme court. >> that is a big crowd moving
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through the nation's capitol right now. we'll check back in with you when you get to the supreme court. keep us posted. let's go to new york, polo sandoval is there for us. polo, what are you seeing there? >> reporter: you know, jim, the nypd basically cleared the way for the activists to march from brooklyn new york over the bridge into lower manhattan. we actually marched with this group, we were the head of the group earlier today. and we've been standing here and for the last hour we have seen the flow of demonstrators come off the brooklyn bridge and make their way into a park that's not far from where i'm standing to the right at the federal courthouse where this large rally is basically getting under way here. the message similar -- actually, identical to what we heard from our colleague shimon in washington. i would add, i spoke to a male participant who said he's here not only for his sister and his
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wife but also standing in solidarity with women living in states where lawmakers would immediately ban abortion should we see the reversal. that's another message we're getting here in new york city that perhaps might be different than what we're seeing from other parts of the country. regardless where you may stand on the issue, an impressive turnout here in new york city. a large group of demonstrators, started in brooklyn and the new york police department basically blocking off vehicle traffic on the brooklyn bridge so thousands of demonstrators, according to city officials here, made their way to this side of the bridge. so it's something that we continue to see. we've been seeing for the last several hours. this rally expected to get started here shortly and last for hours. >> polo, one of the things that obviously we've heard from people who want to see roe v. wade stay in place is that this is going to energize those
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voters come this fall. are you hearing those sorts of things when you talk to people out on the streets? >> reporter: it absolutely is. i heard it from people and even various lawmakers who also participated in the demonstration. i saw two democratic lawmakers that were participating in addition to them, we saw new york mayor eric adams as well leading the group. it's an issue they are aware of. understand that this will be a crucial issue, especially nearby states like pennsylvania and the senate midterm race happening there. i think that goes along with what you heard a little while ago and what i heard from the queens resident, this is a show of support for women in other states where the stakes are extremely high, more than perhaps here in new york state. so yes, the midterms are certainly heavy on people's minds. and you not only hear it in their voice but you also see it on the signs that they carry
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with them from one borough to another. >> it's certainly something you see on a regular basis, demonstrations, but a lot of passion out there. thank you both. my next guest is the eldest daughter of the woman immortalized jane roe. melissa mills joins me now. melissa, thank you for being with us. we really appreciate it. later in the show we're going to be talking with someone on the opposite side of this issue but wanted to get your reaction on what we're seeing on the streets of the u.s. today. i have to ask you, melissa, if your mom were alive today, what do you think she would say about the women out there marching for the same rights that she was fighting for 50 years ago? >> she would be so happy to see all of it, and she would be so happy to know that people are fighting back and they don't want to let go of their rights.
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she would be really happy, i know she would. it would make her feel good. >> i know you have said publically that her reaction was certainly -- be quite negative, quite aghast at what has come out of the supreme court in this leaked draft. >> yes, sir. >> that would overturn roe v. wade. tell us about that. tell us more. >> yeah. she wouldn't believe -- she would be -- yeah. she would be unbelieved about it all, i know she would. this is just setting us back so far. i know she would just be devastated, the things that can happen to all of these women 50 years and it would take us back, all the strides we made would take us back so far. and a lot of people are going to be hurt. it's going to affect everybody. not just the people it's happening to, but everybody else around us, too. if they could have fixed it,
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they would have already fixed it for the women that needed these things. they're saying in places that they're going to fix it for the women that do decide to have those kids. they would have fixed it before if we could. so we need roe, we need that autonomy. we need that for ourselves to be able to choose what our lives are going to be and how we're going to live our lives. and we need doctors and the women that it affects to be able to talk and take care of that, and nobody else should be involved. it should be that woman and that doctor and her family. >> and melissa, i'm sure you know this, 13 states have so-called trigger bans, these are in place that would almost immediately enact near total bans on abortion if and when roe is struck down, perhaps in a few weeks from now. before roe your mother sought an abortion when she was 22, single and pregnant for the third time, but it would have been illegal
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in texas so she went through with the pregnancy and gave the child up for adoption. how did that affect her? tell us about that. >> well, it affects any woman that -- you know whether you want the child or don't want the child. you know that child is out there. i mean, just part of your life is just always a mess. it always will be. she said the same thing, there needs to be realistic things for women. i mean, not use it as something that just -- you know, just to take care of things. but it needs to be for women that really need it at the time and that need to make those choices, because everything happens -- not every life is affected the way, you know, that it affects some people. and we have to see the differences in those difference times for other people. >> yeah. and i have to ask you, there is
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this bill in louisiana, i guess that was ultimately paired down, but it originally included language seeking to classify abortions as homicides and potentially allow for women to be criminally charged for terminating their pregnancies. obviously there was a lot of condemnation for this, caused a lot of controversy. what was your reaction to that? how would your mother have reacted to that? >> she would -- same thing, she would be mortified. yeah, this is nuts that it's happening and that a woman could lose a child at 6 months or 7 months and it's not her fault. but then they can investigate her and try to put that on her. things happen. just all types of different, you know, instances can happen, and it's like, i just can't believe a woman -- all the stuff that's out there, people are killing people, just walking up and shooting somebody, but a woman should have -- and a woman
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should have a choice on what she does with her body but they're making that woman a criminal and a demon or devil for taking control of her life and that's just unbelievable. it's just unbelievable. >> and melissa, your mother, she expressed regret for switching sides in her later years and doing work for the anti-abortion movement and she called this her deathbed confession. talk to us about that. why was that important for her to say at the very end of her life? >> like i said, i told a lot of people before, she was -- they condemned my mom for years for taking the role that she did, but also because she was -- her lifestyle and the way she lived. they wanted her to change. and that's just not -- that's not who she was.
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the pro-life people wanted to put words in her mouth. they wouldn't let her speak. and a lot of times she had to, you know -- you know, everybody wanted her, because of the particular role that she played with roe v. wade. but nobody wanted her to really talk the way she wanted to talk. and to, you know, take care of what she needed to take care of. >> did she finally speak her mind at the end, though, before she passed? >> she did. she did. she sure did. she said what she needed to say, and everybody knows that was involved in it, how it really played out. and she was trying to save her soul too because they condemned her all her life for her lifestyle and the -- her views and what she thought. and i'm glad she had the views she did and she fought for women's rights.
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and, you know, now we see why we had that and all the trouble that it was before to get that. and people are realizing now what we had that we might not have that, and it's crazy. i'm glad people are going out and taking -- you know, taking an active voice and i hope people start voting and they see where women need to be, not where we shouldn't be, you know. >> melissa mills, thank you so much for taking time with us, we appreciate it, talking about your mother, thank you so much. >> thank you. appreciate it. thank you. and as we go to break, some live pictures to show you of the protests happening all across the country. there you are looking at washington d.c. we were talking to shimon prokupecz about this a few moments ago. abortion rights activists making their voices heard in the wake of that supreme court leaked draft opinion. we'll check in on that, show you
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what would you like the power to do? marches and rallies in support of abortion rights are taking place across the country today. you're looking at live images right now out of the nation's capital as abortion rights demonstrators are making their way to the supreme court. we'll check in on that in just a bit. thousands of people are joining in. the bans off our bodies events from coast to coast. it comes in the wake of the leaked supreme court draft opinion that would overturn roe v. wade. camile is in los angeles for us where demonstrators have turned out as well. what are you seeing ? can you describe the scene for us? >> reporter: thousands and thousands of people, talking children, men, women, everybody here, to support a women's right to abortion. you're still seeing a lot of people out here in downtown los angeles. you see the signs, you see and
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hear people cheering because they are extremely passionate about this issue. this is an event that was scheduled even before the leak, but after the leak, organizers say they ramped up their efforts, trying to get as many more people as they could. they want to get people engaged when it comes to this issue. and all of these organizers and activists tell me that california is a key player, in a sense, in this whole issue because abortions are protected here in this state until a fetus is viable. so they believe there are a lot of women across the country coming to california, in fact, they say they're already seeing women coming to california in search of a safe abortion. i spoke to the founder of the women's right foundation, and here's what she told me. >> in los angeles, in california, the fight is to help our sisters in texas, in georgia, in missouri because we're safe in california, and we
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can't take that for granted because if no woman is safe across the country, how are we safe in california? we take that personal to make sure we fight for the other women across the country, fight with them for reproductive rights. >> reporter: now as a latina she told me she is particularly concerned about black and brown women, women of low income. she says that that's who we need to fight for in particular, but overall they say they're going to continue doing this, no matter what happens in the supreme court. jim? >> reporter: >> camile thank you very much for that report. coming up, krukraine forcesn advance. plus video shows a moment unarmed men in ukraine are gunned down by russian fighters. verizon has fast, reliable internet solutions nationwide. so you can power your business to do more.
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delegation has made it to ukraine's capital of kyiv. that's mitch mcconnell and a cohort of senators meeting with president zelenskyy. this as congress is trying to push through roughly $40 billion in crucial new aid for ukraine. while the show of solidarity played out in the capital. ukraine's forces have thwarted an advance in the eastern part of the country. you can see remnants of destroyed russian military vehicles. it's described as a disastrous russian attempt to get across that river this week. sam kylie is in eastern ukraine. yet another russian advance
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that's been stopped. this one is shaping up to be a blunder. what more have we learned? >> reporter: it's the extraordinary series of events, jim, if you go back to middle earlier part of last week, you recall the 60-odysseyvillians that are killed in an air strike in a small village very close to those pontoon bridges you're seeing in those satellite images. they were killed in a russian air strike during or just before the attempt to cross the donetsk river. the russians built some pontoons, the ukrainians already had kind of worked out that would be a likely crossing point they might attempt. they had artillery and other weapons lined up on that location and blew it up. rather typically of the soviet doctrine, they reinforced failure with another two
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attempts at least to try to get across that river, losing many dozens of men, the ukrainian figures are astronomical, up to 1,000 they claim we have no independent confirmation of that. with ukrainians saying they knocked out 70 russian tanks and vehicles during that process. similar attempts to break through the lines are conducted north of the city as well. indeed across the front line where i am because this is the city they're after, the last big city in the east, kramatorsk. >> we're also learning about the russians looting ukrainian grain supplies. what can you tell us about that? >> this might sound kind of an absurd story. but when the price of grain went through the roof across the middle east, mostly connected with drought.
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you saw international instability. the russian foreign minister leading for a call to the interruption of grain supplies coming from ukraine. there's a going to be a shortage because ukraine has most of the world market, and it's going to be difficult to get grain out of ukraine because the ports are blocked. and now russians are stealing grain. we've been able to trace, cnn, one ship carrying many thousands of tons of grain, exporting it to egypt and turning around and docking in syria, an irony there in that syria was nearly destabilized by their own grain shortage. so this in terms of the international implications of what's happening here is profound, jim. >> sam kylie, thank you for that
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report. new surveillance video obtained by cnn, shows russian soldiers shooting two unarmed civilians with their backs turned. the images in this report are deeply disturbing, we want to warn you. >> reporter: this is an example of a potential war crime perpetrated by russian forces. an example the world has not yet seen. russian soldiers shooting two civilians in the back. cnn obtained the surveillance video taken from this vehicle dealership that sits along the main highway to kyiv. the video is from the beginning as russians tried and failed to shell their way to the capital. the fight along this road was clearly fierce. but what happened outside this business was not a battle between soldiers or even soldiers and armed civilians. it was a cowardly, cold-blooded killing of unarmed men by russian forces. the soldiers show up and begin
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breaking in. inside of a guard shack, two ukrainian men prepared to meet them. one is the owner of the business whose family did not want him named. the other was hired to guard it. >> translator: my father's name is liam -- >> reporter: his daughter wanted the world to know his name and what the russians did to them. both civilians, both unarmed. we know this because the video shows them greeting and getting frisked by the russian soldiers and then walking away. neither seemed to suspect what was about to happen. that is when a member of the civilian fighting force who talked to the men a couple of days before the attack told cnn. he did not want to be identified for security reasons. >> translator: we came there earlier. warned people to leave that place. we also hope for the humanity of russian soldiers. but unfortunately they have no humanity. >> reporter: you see the two men
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walking in the shadows towards the camera. behind them the soldiers they were just talking to emerge. a few more steps and their bodies drop to the ground. dust shoots up from the bullets hitting the pavement. the soldiers have opened fire. minutes later the guard gets up. limping but alive. he manages to get inside the guard booth to make a call. this is one of those guys. a ukrainian truck driver turned civilian soldier. >> translator: first of all, we felt a big responsibility. we knew we should go there because a man needed our help. he was still alive. >> reporter: he's the commander of a team of civilians who took up arms to fight for ukraine and tried to save the men. when the guard called them, he explained what transpired with the soldiers. he said the soldiers asked who they were, asked for cigarettes and then let them go before shooting them in the back.
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when his men finally got there, he had lost massive amounts of blood. >> translator: one man from our group went there and the guy was still alive. he gave him bandages, tried to perform first aid but the russians started shooting. >> reporter: they tried to fight back but were unsuccessful. they didn't have the fire power to save their countrymen. >> reporter: have you seen the video? >> translator: i can't watch it now. i will save it to the cloud and leave it for my grandchildren and children. they should know about this crime and always remember who our neighbors are. >> reporter: her neighbors to the north, the russian soldiers show how callous they are. drinking, toasting one another and looting the place, minutes after slaying the two men. >> what were the last words you remember he said to you? >> translator: bye-bye, kisses. say hello to your boys. >> reporter: her boys will be left with a terrible lasting memory. the death of their grandfather
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after a mass shooting at a grocery store there in buffalo. we're told this happened at a tops market on jefferson avenue. police saying multiple people were injured, we have very limited information at this time. but new york governor, kathy hochul tweeted, i'm closely monitoring the shooting at a grocery store in buffalo we have offered assistance to local official. if you are in buffalo, please avoid the area and follow guidance from the law enforcement and local officials. the latest information is that a suspect is in custody at this hour and we'll bring you the latest updates on all of this as they come in. please stay tuned for that. in the georgia governor race, former vice president mike pence is picking sides against donald trump. saying he will campaign for brian kemp, calling him a friend and calling him one of the most conservative governors in america. donald trump is backing david purdue. trump urged the former senator to get into this race angry that
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kemp certified georgia's 2020 election result that is found that joe biden won the election. pence is not the only big name republican backing kemp. george w. bush will also headline a fund-raiser for him in dallas. three days from the highly anticipated pennsylvania primary and for republicans a last minute wild card in the senate race is causing serious headaches inside the gop. most of the race has been focused on trumped back dr. oz and david mccormick. but former radio show host kathy barnett has surged in recent polls leaving trump allies to say that barnett is not a well-vetted candidate. >> kathy is going to be a lot of trouble. i think she's going to be a lot of trouble. she may have a great future but she's totally an unknown and we can't have that. >> cnn's dan merika joins me
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now. kathy barnett has expressed bigoted views against gays and muslims. how will this affect that? >> reporter: this is what happens when an unexpected candidate rises like this. this has been a raise between oz and mccormick because the two were so focused on attacking each other, tearing each other down, barnett rose from the middle and kind of caught them by surprise on a mission that mccormick made to me yesterday. you're right, our team here at cnn went through the history of statements that barnett has made and did express a number of bigoted statements, made a number of bigoted statements about gays and muslims. listen to what she said. >> two men sleeping together. two men holding hands. two men caressing. that is not normal.
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>> you are not a racist if you reject islam or if you reject muslims because they are not a race of people. they are a particular view. they're a people that have a particular view of the world. and we have a right to discriminate against world views. we discriminated against hitler's nazi germany view of the world, right. that was a world view. >> reporter: jim this is all happening very late. a lot of this is usually litigated during a primary for months on tv. but this is happening late which republicans admit has ham strung their efforts to stop barnett's rise. she just started an event here, press was not allowed in, but i have to say she has a lot of energy behind her, jim. >> dan, weird how the press is being treated at some of the events in the pennsylvania right now. as you know, this morning, a late trump endorsement for
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another pennsylvania candidate, very interesting here, trump is now backing state senator doug mastriano in the primary for governor. this days before the race for a candidate who's already doing well. is that going to matter? is that trump feeling he might lose with his endorsement in the senate primary trying to hop on the band wagon of somebody who looks like he's going to win the primary race for governor? >> reporter: i think the term might be a band wagon. he looked like he was going to win and trump endorsed him in the last few days, trying to notch maybe another win here in pennsylvania. it seems like mastriano has it here in pennsylvania. he kept the press out, did not want media coverage of his events. this is when they want press attention but barnett and
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mastriano did not want attention. >> and we have to note that donald trump, who incited an insurrection, his endorsement is being covetted across the country by candidates everywhere. coming up, a major move by the january 6th select committee. subpoenas issued for five republican members of congress. plus discovery a side of d.c. beside the monuments. all new "nomad" with carlton mccoy hairs tomorrow nightht at 10:00 on cnn. wewe'll drive you happy at carvana.
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the panel has now issued subpoenas to kevin mccarthy and four other congressional republicans who have refused to vol tearily cooperate with the investigation. cnn's senior legal analyst, elie honig, joins me now. we know this testimony may be critical in all of this, but how likely are we to hear from them? >> well, jim, if there was a way to express probability as a negative percentage, i would use that. realistically, we are not going to hear voluntary or forced testimony. we know that in part because
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they've already been invited to testify. now, they say they have nothing to hide, but when they got the invitations, the response was sort sof anger and bluster. just because they won't testify doesn't mean they're in the clear or won't be the subject of the hearings. mccarthy, for example, maybe he won't testify, but the committee has recordings of him saying donald trump is to blame in his view, saying donald trump acknowledged some responsibility. maybe jim jordan won't testify. they have texts. other witnesses and that's going to be one of the tasks for the committee. you don't always get testimony from key players, but you can put together documents, texts. so i think these are going to be very much a focus of these hearings. >> and the committee is going to be getting interesting testimony this week. we have confirmed that a former aide to meadows is going to be appearing before the committee to give a deposition. that will be very interesting. but getting back to these five
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house republicans refusing to testify and comply, what legal options does the committee have? would they pursue those options? >> so, you and i have been talking for months now about the need for the committee to subpoena other members of congress if they have relevant information. the good news is they've done it. the bad is that they've done it in the middle of may with these hearings less than a month away. they have two options, but both are timed out. one, they can duoso a civil junl and ask for an order, but that will take well more than a month. that will take several months. two, they can vote to hold mccarthy and others in contempt. send it to doj for prosecution. but it's realistically too late to get that done. example, the mark meadows case has been sitting with doj for over five months. they've essentially timed themselves out. >> it's just ridiculous that you
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can have subpoenas and people not testify in something as important as this. i have to ask you about this. fbi investigators issued a subpoena for the national archives for access to these classified trump documents taken to mar-a-lago. i suppose they'll comply. but what does that tell you? >> yeah, it tells me that the doj at least has what we call predication. meaning some basis of fact is suspected that there might be a crime here. that's what you need in order to issue grand jury subpoenas. does not mean anyone will be charged necessarily. the key issue here is intent. what is in the mind of donald trump? did he know, did anyone know these documents were classified and did they remove them without authorization? if they did those things, you could have a potential crime, but the key here is intent. we know the documents were removed. we know there were classified, but who intended what. that's the question.
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