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what else is being done to hold immigration down or to stop it or to at least control it to some degree? nothing. >> reporter: roberto es coe bar will keep working his land and keep waiting for an immigration solution that seems lost in these fields. ed lavandera, cnn in the rio grande valley of texas. >> important report. thanks so much for joining us. thanks so much for joining us. "ac 360" starts now. -- captions by vitac -- in pennsylvania, the high stakes republican primary race is tight. we'll have more on that shortly. first there's breaking news in the wake of 2020 and the insurrection that followed. two potentially significant items. new signs the former attorney general william barr is ready to testify to the house january 6th committee. and evidence the committee says it has about a tour of the capitol that barry loudermilk gave on january 5th, evidence
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that contradicts republican denials in an ethics complaint about the allegation about the congressman himself. william barr has formally talked to the committee last fall. they want him to speak again, this time under oath. how likely is that? >> anderson, they have a tentative agreement for him to appear with the committee to do this interview under oath. so, we expect that this is actually going to happen. one of the interesting things with bill barr is he has spoken a little bit publicly doubting the committee and whether it's made too much of a big deal about january 6th. but obviously there's a lot of information the committee believes he has from the period before he left office. keep in mind he left office at the end -- just before the end of december. so, there's a lot of information he has from the period after the election that he can tell them about. >> the last time barr spoke with the community, conversation focused on interactions with president trump before and after the election. is that still the focus?
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>> that's right. he spoke about two hours with staffers, liz cheney, the republican who's the vice chair of the committee. and we believe that is exactly some of the information they want from him, again, this time in a formal manner. and look, he can tell a lot about his interactions with the president, including the fact that he's one of the first to tell them that there was no fraud in the election. certainly the justice department did not find evidence to support this idea of fraud. so, he has a lot of information of that period before, frankly, the efforts to overturn the election began gaining steam in those weeks after the election, anderson. >> appreciate it. thank you. now more on evidence the january 6th committee says it has about a tour of the capitol on the eve of the insurrection given by a republican congressman. paula reed joins us with more on that. what do we know about this tour? >> in a letter this afternoon, the january 6th committee send a request to fellow lawmaker barry
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loudermilk, republican of georgia, asking him to voluntarily provide information about a tour he allegedly gave on january 5th. days leading up to january 6th, and that some of those people allegedly went on to then storm the capitol. but anderson, we have a big discrepancy here because another group of lawmakers on a different committee of which representative loudermilk is a member, they say they reviewed the security footage, and they say they didn't see any large groups. they didn't see any tours. and there was no one wearing maga hats. republicans have denied providing tours in the days leading up to january 6th, and representative loudermilk has filed an ethics complaint against democrats accusing them of making these allegations without providing evidence. in response to today's letter, loudermilk released a statement saying the tour he gave was a constituent family with young children and that they never entered the capitol building.
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i'll note, anderson, in this letter, this tour allegedly happened around the capitol complex, which as we know is much broader than just the capitol building. we have two groups of lawmakers reviewing this same evidence and coming to different conclusions. today loudermilk and other republicans demanded that the u.s. capitol police just release the video footage. the capitol police has said they are not going to release any evidence while the january 6th investigation is ongoing. >> so, has the committee said what kind of evidence they think they have? >> well, this would have been a great opportunity for them to provide more specifics. and what's so notable today about the letter that they released, anderson, is it is lacking in a lot of specific details to really support this allegation beyond just saying we reviewed the evidence and our conclusion contradicts that of the republicans on the other committee. now, again, eventually, this video footage will likely be seen by the public. there would be a huge credibility problem for the
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committee if it turns out that this footage does not support their allegation. at this point it's unclear because of course we have not seen this footage. and it'll be interesting to see if this footage plays into the public hearings they're planning next month or their final report. >> thank you. coming up next, primary politics in a second night of overtime in a gop race that could decide who controls the senate next year. dr. mehmet oz, backed by the former president, hanging on to a little more than 1,000-vote margin over david mccormick. that said, the race tightened today again. the votes are still coming in, with a new batch expected shortly. so, how soon until we know if this race is heading for a recount? >> well, anderson, it could be several more days. here in lancaster county, they have just finished tallying the election day ballots and the mail-in ballots, the ones that have arrived that they're allowed to tally by law.
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you'll remember there was the problem with 22,000 ballots misprinted. they have groups of staffers working to resolve those issues to remark and scan those ballots. we have those results kachlt thy barnett, who is out of the running, won lancaster county. dave mccormick got 405 more votes than mehmet oz in this county. but it's important to note it could be several more days before we know the winner because not only are there other counties that are still counting ballots, but there are also going to be in this county and other counties, military and overseas ballots and provisional ballots. they can't begin to be counted yet. there's 589 of them in this county. when the race is this close, all of those votes matter and that is why it is hard to say how long it's going to take before we know the results. >> is there any way to -- is there any sense of how those outstanding ballots may affect the race? >> well, based on what the
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campaigns are saying and what we're actually seeing, what the campaigns are saying is being held up in the numbers. so, dr. oz is doing well in places like philadelphia and the eastern part of the state. and dave mccormick has been doing well with absentee ballots. they're hoping that continues because a lot of ballots remaining to be counted are the mail-in ballots. each campaign is kind of hoping and saying they have a path to victory, but we'll have to see who comes out ahead. right now, state-wide dr. oz is still ahead. of course if they're within 0.5%, there's an automatic recount. and at least right now that looks very, very likely. we just have to see how it shakes out. like i said, there are several counties that are counting votes and not all are being clear about how many votes are left. >> so, the newest votes that came in, what did they show again? >> well, the votes here in lancaster actually all day or for very much of the day, the split, the distance, the gap
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between dave mccormick and dr. oz has been about 400 votes. several hours ago it was smaller, maybe 360. but in this county, the last several hours, the trend has been a slight edge for dave mccormick. but we just don't know what's going otohappen in all the other counties, allegheny county, smaller counties like clair i don't know counties. these are small counties still reporting not even 99% of the vote in some of these cases. it's still going to be several more days until we get a clear sense of who came out on top in this initial tally and how close is that to determine whether there will be a recount. it will be a while and as you mentioned this is a high stakes race. who wins this contest in november will determine which party controls the senate. >> appreciate it. perspective from chief political correspondent dana bash, also pennsylvania's own michael smerconish, host of "smerconish" here on cnn. i'm wondering what do you make of what's happening in
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pennsylvania. it's fascinating to see how close this race is. >> it's so fascinating, and it is -- the whole notion of donald trump and trumpism, whether or not that is part of this race or any other republican primary, that's yesterday's news. we know the answer is yes because even dave mccormick, although if he does become the nominee, he'll run a very different general election race to win there than mehmet oz would be. he still was very much singing from some of the -- singing some of the trump lyrics during the primaries. but the fact that you have the former president, who put his name on the line, behind somebody who he clearly liked for lots of reasons, not the least of which is that he's a fellow tv star. and he's not -- doesn't have an outright win -- is very, very telling. and it is a reminder, certainly for people i talk to who are
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still in touch with the former president, that he shouldn't just do things impulsively. but good luck convincing him of that in the future. >> michael, how much do you think the outcome of the ongoing senate vote in pennsylvania will have? >> well, let me first say this has a "groundhog day" feeling to me of what we went through in 2020 where on election night it was donald trump in the lead. we all remember the red mirage and the blue wave. and it seems like mccormick is the biden in that analogy, in that there's a tick, tick, tick, whereby that margin gets smaller and smaller. and if the trends hold up in terms of how he's outperformed oz in absentee ballots to date, then i suspect he's going to surpass him. to answer your question specifically, something i'm wondering about anderson, is that if the one-loss record of the former president doesn't turn out the way that folks on his side would hope, maybe it
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forces him to spend more money in the general election on behalf of candidates to make sure that he's in good stead across the board with a lot of republicans. >> is the former president hurting whoever the republican nominee turns out to be by claiming the primaries to be illegitimate? >> could be. absolutely could be. the answer to that question depends on who the nominee is. if it's dave mccormick, maybe less so -- excuse me, if it's mehmet oz, maybe less so because there's no question that donald trump will change his tune if oz becomes the nominee. but if it's mccormick, absolutely, because what does mccormick need to be the next senator from pennsylvania? he needs not just swing voters, not just maybe so-called country club republicans, if there are -- many of them left. most of them are in the collar counties around the big cities. but he does need some of the trump base. he does. and if they are convinced by the
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former president, just like many of them are convinced about what happened in 2020, that this is not legitimate, it certainly might hurt. the other thing that i just want to add to what michael said is that so far -- in the contest so far, republican contests -- 70% of republican primary voters have voted for a candidate not endorsed by donald trump. so, if there is any math that goes into what the former president decides to do in the future, that might help. >> michael, i mean, had barnett not been in the race, would most of her voters, do you think, have gone to -- to dr. oz? >> i think in this race, there were momentum shifts. i think that initially it was mccormick who had momentum. then trump weighs in for oz. i think he saved oz because i think oz would have faded. that's just my view. and then $50 million gets spent combined on behalf of mccormick
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and oz, mutually assured destruction. it opens a lane for barnett. in the 11th hour, she finally gets vetted. and all of a sudden, her momentum goes away. so, it was very complicated, a lot of twists and turns. but in the end, it's very hard to know. a final thought, if i might, because we all like to keep score in terms of how well did trump's picks do? this could get recorded as a loss for trump if oz loses. but in my view, without trump's endorsement, oz would have lost. coming up next, we have more breaking news, new reporting about the alleged buffalo gunman talking to online followers just minutes before the shooting that took ten lives. later, my conversation with the young woman who documented the destruction of kharkiv, a city she was forced to flee. with russian forces driven out of the area, she talks about what going home is like for her.
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more breaking news tonight. we already know that the alleged buffalo mass killer was looking to spread his message of hate online. now we're learning more about the followers he was apparently communicating with just moments before the shooting that killed ten people. brian todd joins us with that. what is this information you've learned tonight? >> reporter: right, anderson. we have learned that at least 15 people joined the account that the shooter set up on the app discord in the minutes leading up to this attack. the 15 people, you know, they were invited by him. we have been told that already, that they were invited by him to join this kind of private online chat, this little forum on the app discord. and at least 15 people joined it. there could have been more who he invited, but at least 15 people joined it and were able to view his attack plans at least about 30 -- starting about
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30 minutes before the shooting. according to "the washington post," there was a header on the top of that forum that these people were viewing said, quote, happening, this is not a drill. we had previously reported that he had invited a select few number of people to join that forum, that little chat on discord, where he basically laid out a diary of the plans he's been making for the last six months, including the fact he had surveilled this store, he had come here three times on the date of march 8th to do surveillance, that he had plotted out how many black people were in this area, how many black people were in the store, and he planned the attack on march 14th but had to delay it several times. all of that was in the attack plan he laid out in the chat forum. the new information tonight is at least 15 people viewed it. and also when they viewed those attack plans, they had a link they could click on with the live streaming of his attack,
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anderson. >> did any of them -- is it clear who these people were, if the fbi plans to track them down? did any of them call law enforcement while the attack was happening? >> reporter: those are really good questions, and i don't think we have the answers to most of them. it is not clear exactly who those people were. i interviewed a former fbi special agent here in buffalo named jonathan lacey. he's pretty keyed into this stuff. and he said, you can bet that the fbi is trying to track down those 15 people. some of them, he said, are not going to go by their real names when they log in to watch this stuff. they might have handles. but they can find out from ip addresses and other things, maybe tracking of their phones possibly, who these people are. he said, you can bet they're going to track those people down, interview them, bring them in, and see if any of them might have been complicit in this attack. lawmakers in oklahoma late today supplying a preview of
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what large portions of the country might look like if and when the country overturns roe v. wade. t abortion providers with anyone who aids or abets them. the vote comes a day after hearing house judiciary committee. a louisiana congressman put this hypothetical -- make of it what you will -- to an alabama obgyn. >> do you support the right of a woman to have a an abortion seconds away from giving birth? >> i think the question you're asking does not reflect abortion care. >> in that scenario -- how about if the child is halfway out of the birth canal. is an abortion -- >> can you repeat your question. >> if a child is halfway out of the birth canal --
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>> i cannot even fathom that -- >> i can't imagine -- just like you probably can't imagine what you would do if your daughter was raped. >> just as a factual matter, abortions do not happen during delivery. the most recent cdc data shows nearly all abortions, about 93%, were performed less than 13 weeks into pregnancy. that said n some parts of the country, those who do perform abortions and those who want one are already deal being a po post-roe kind of world that could be coming soon. more cnn's kueng law. >> so, i'm going to sioux falls, south dakota, to the planned parenthood. >> reporter: the clock starts ticking in minnesota on the first flight to her neighboring state of south dakota. >> it is my pleasure to welcome you to sioux falls. >> reporter: dr. sarah has only today to see her parents who
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want abortions. greeted by private security, they drive new routes each time to the one and only abortion clin nick south dakota. >> how long have you been doing this? >> i've been doing it for about seven years. patients should be able to access the health care they need in the cities in the states they live in. and if there's nobody else willing to do it, this is what we feel like we need to do in order to give patients access to that care. >> reporter: she comes twice a month because no doctor in state will. >> they either won't because it's against their beliefs or they don't feel safe doing it because of the atmosphere and the climate in south dakota. >> reporter: that climate is why she only uses her first name in our interview. >> we're here. we're functioning. we're seeing patients, abortion patients. our schedules fill weeks it o. but that doesn't mean that it's accessible to everybody who ne needs it. absolutely is not. >> reporter: governor christie
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gnome has pledged to make -- >> as soon as roe v. wade is overturned, our state laws are ready to protect every unborn child here in south dakota. >> a conservative state, especially on abortion access, south dakota is bright red politically. it already has some of the country's most restrictive laws, dictating when, where, and how women can get an abortion. but roe v. wade still allows the doctor to continue her work. on this day, she sees 11 patients. >> we want to get them seen, get their ultrasounds, get their education in so we can time stamp their visit. >> it's then a state mandated wait time of 72 hours before patients can legally get abortions. >> tell me about these women. >> so, they come from all walks of life. young, old, never been pregnant before so this is their first pregnancy, and several who have
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multiple children. many of them travelled several hours to get here today. >> reporter: hanging over each visit, the supreme court's draft decision overturning roe. >> if the decision comes tomorrow, we would not be able to complete their visit 72 hours later. we would have to call all of those patients and let them know that they can't be seen and they need to go somewhere else. >> reporter: south dakota's trigger law would immediately end all abortion here except when the mother's life is in jeopardy here. >> it's heartbreaking this is not going to be available to them anymore. it's unfair. it's unjust. it's very frustrating to me that we are at this place because i don't think that bodily autonomy should be up for debate. and it makes me very fearful that we're going to see an increase in the number of people who are seeking out unsafe alternatives. >> reporter: the clock resets. 72 hours later, she will make this journey again to see those same patients for as long as the supreme court will let her.
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>> kim, we heard the south dakota governor say the state's trigger law outlawing all abortions except when the mother's life is at risk will go into effect immediately. do abortion rights supporters have any contingency plans? >> they actually do. they're going to make an immediate pivot from focusing on patient care to patient travel. yes, that south dakota clinic will immediately not be able to do abortions anymore. dr. tracksler will stay in minnesota. but instead her focus will shift to getting those patients out of south dakota. this is already happening in the state of texas. plans are underway to get this to happen in oklahoma. what you're seeing are these health care professionals instead going to become patient navigators, which is really just a fancy way of saying that they're going to become travel agents for these patients. women who want an abortion might call the clinic, but then that clinic would instead give them an itinerary. that could be via train, bus,
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plane to take them to states like here in california or colorado or other states they could get that access to an abortion, anderson. >> kim lao, appreciate it. back to politics and the grudge match for georgia governor between the challenger he backs and the incumbent, fellow republican, he's openly and repeatedly attacked. he's in n adelaide between his color-coordinated sticky note collection anand the cutest boxed lunch we have ever seen. and you can find him right now on when the world is your workforce, finding the perfect project manager, designer, developer, or whomever you may need... tends to fall right into place. find top-rated talent who can start today on lemons. lemons. lemons. the world is so full of lemons. when you become le an expedia member,s. you can instantly start saving on your trals.
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even if the votes are being counted and the dust is settling for primary note, they're gearing up for another primary round, most notably in georgia, where former president trump looms large on the republican side. more now from jeff zeleny. >> we're in a fight for the soul of our state. >> reporter: georgia governor brian kemp is also facing another fight for the future of the republican party. >> we need to win and win big on tuesday. and then we will unite and do what we have done again. and that is beat stacey abrams in november. >> reporter: the next big stop of the midterm election season is the georgia primary on tuesday. kemp is trying to project strength by looking ahead to a potential rematch with stacey abrams. but he must overcome vicious criticism from the loudest voice in the republican party. >> brian kemp is a turn coat, a
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coward, a complete disaster. >> reporter: he's never forgiven kemp and other gop officials for refusing to meddle in the election. >> brian kemp, he sold you out. he didn't look. he didn't want to look. he didn't want anything to do with it. >> reporter: trump convinced former senator david perdue to challenge kemp, a bet that is looking increasingly risky. 60% of republican primary voters support kemp, while 28% back purdue, a healthy increase in the governor's advantage since march. gone are the days where trump, perdue, and kemp were part of a unified republican party. deep divisions rooted in the big election lie are at the heart of the georgia primary. >> what i'm frustrated with is we can't get our republican leaders to investigate. they say we've audited thachlt have not. they have not done that. >> reporter: at rallies -- >> they attacked and cheated our elections and did it right here
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in georgia. >> reporter: and in tv ads. >> brian kemp let us down. >> reporter: trump blames others for his defeat. >> president trump has called you a turn coat, a coward. what do you say to georgian who making up their mind right now whether they should listen to him or listen to you. >> i can't control what other people are saying. they want somebody who's fighting for them, they're not worried about people around the country. >> reporter: kemp goes to great lengths to ignore the criticism. >> president trump has a lot to say about a lot of things. >> he tabs a band aid and put it over his lips. >> a band aid over his lips. >> yeah. he needs to learn to control his speech. and i am a trump supporter all the way. >> reporter: as he flirts with another presidential run, trump has plenty of reasons to keep georgia on his mind.
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he endorsed congressman jody hice to challenge brad raffensperger. he's supporting former football great herschel walker for senate. those two republicans, along with perdue, make up the trump ticket. >> we have to defeat the rhinos, sellouts, and losers this spring. >> reporter: the biggest question of all is after republicans will come together after the divisive primary. >> if you win on tuesday, will you seek his endorsement to help unify the party? >> the only endorsement i'm worried about is the people of georgia on tuesday. >> reporter: now, kemp is not only campaigning hard to win. he's trying to get more than 50%. that would allow him to avoid a june runoff election. one thing he's doing on the eve of the election, bringing in former vice president mike pence to campaign for him. anderson, it's the biggest split yet with pence and former president trump. >> interesting tuesday night. jeff zeleny.
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up next, as ukraine's top military commander gives an upbeat assessment of the war, i'll speak to a resident of ukraine. i'll talk to her. she was forced to flee. she's now returned to kharkiv. her thoughts on the city and the war when we come back.
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ukraine's top military commander today expressed optimism about the course of the war during a meeting with his nato counterparts. he said his forces have unblocked the sieges of kharkiv and nikolaev and are fights the direction of kherson. he also said they've managed to take away russia's strategic. along with the officials' optimism we're beginning to see some of the people returning home. anastasia, for one. we spoke with her. she was fleeing kharkiv two months ago. >> so, as my parents with no longer withstand it, the constant bombing, especially after last night, which was truly a terrifying thing, we are
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going to leave, if we live that long, of course. so, i don't want to leave, and i won't be leaving ukraine. we will be moving to somewhere just further away from russian border. i don't know why, but being bombarded is easier than leaving your home. >> anastasia recently visited kharkiv for the first time and joins me now. anastasia, we first met you right after you fled the city of kharkiv. you've now been back for the first time. were you nervous at all to go back? >> yes, i was actually nervous. i did not know for sure how i will feel when i see the city. i have not seen it for -- in two months. and yeah, most devastation was
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done when i was there, so i knew what to expect. i was seeing videos on my phone of pretty much everything that was destroyed. but seeing it live is entirely different. but the experience was good because city was much more alive. people were walking the streets. and some shops were working. it felt like some life was back, much better than it was when i was in march. so, overall, i felt good to see kharkiv again. >> your dad had left when you all -- when you left as well. but he had gone back first. itv cameras captured the moment that you saw your dad for the first time since you got back. i just want to show that to our viewers.
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>> that's you and your mom. that must have been just an amazing moment. >> yes. yes, it was really nice to see him after two months. we talked on the phone regularly, but it's the happiest i've heard his voice being in two months. and to see mom and dad reunite was also really special. and, yeah, nothing more to add. just glad to see everyone is okay. and together again. >> you visited your apartment. you got to see your apartment also for the first time since you fled the shelling. was it what you expected? >> no, nothing like expected honestly. it was -- i -- it was not sure
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again what i will feel. when i was leaving, it felt like a piece of me was left in that apartment. so, i was hoping that this piece will fit into place when i return, but for some reason, it didn't. maybe because i knew i will be going back to moldova. or maybe because it will not feel like home until the war will end is my fear is that this feel of home and security will come back only when i will truly know that the war is ended. so, it was not as feel-good moment as i expected it to be, i guess. although seeing my home in one piece, not exploded or destroyed, was definitely good, but not as fulfilling as i
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thought it would be for sure. >> because russian forces have been pushed back from that area, there's not the shelling that there was. there was a lot of damage done though, obviously. what is it like for people now living in kharkiv? are people still spending nights in the subway at all? >> yes. some people are still staying in subway, but soon it will end because subway will be used as a transportation again, not as a shelter. and the shelling is much less severe because, as i was there the entire day in kharkiv, i only heard two explosions very, very far away, not even in the city but outside the city. so, it's much better. it's not safe, of course. just today my mom told me that there was a pretty huge explosion in kharkiv in the morning. but it's better than it was when i was there in march for sure. and many people functioning
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there on the streets, spending time just like they used to. also many people are going to work. city transportation is starting to work again like buses and stuff. so, it's much more -- looks like a city that is -- that people live in, not as it was when i was living, like a dead city with no one around. >> it's really good to talk to you. i'm glad your family is okay. thank you so much for talking to us. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, president biden today reiterated his support for finland and sweden to join nato, despite more pushback from turkey and threats from russia. i'll talk to the ambassador to the u.n. next. whoa. geget 2.49% apr financing on the 2022 rx 450 hybrid all-wheel drive.. it's 5:00 a.m., and i feel like i can do anything. we've got apples and cabbage. 7,000 dahlias, vegetables, and
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senate passed today. during a white house meeting with finland and sweden, sweden's leaders today, president biden solidified his support for their bids to join nato, saying the two nations have the full backing of the u.s. so, the senate, quote, can officially and quickly move on advising on consenting to the treaty. this comes after turkey's president today reiterated the objection to the two countries joining the alliance. thanks so much for being with us. >> delighted to be here. >> how important is it for finland and sweden to join nato? >> i think for sweden and finland, it's really important. they have been threatened by the russians. and i think they feel -- they're feeling the pressure. and they have been strong allies to nato. they have strong armies. we think they will be great contributors to the organization.
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>> is it erdogan's resistance to it, is that something that could derail them joining? >> i don't think it will derail them joining it. it means that we will have to have more discussions within the alliance to work out the concerns that various nations might have. but our sense is we'll move forward. >> the war in ukraine is obviously taken -- i mean, it's been unpredictable, to say the least. though the u.s. did predict that the invasion would take place, many ukrainians didn't think it would. how do you see the situation now? >> the war is continuing, but what we've seen is that the russians didn't achieve what they intended to achieve. so, we were warned early. our allies, our partners, ukrainians, that we saw this coming down the pike. the russians had the sense they could go in a couple of weeks,
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defeat the ukrainians, and the ukrainians would wave the white flag. that has not happened. the ukrainians have stood strong against the russian aggression. they defeated the russians in kyiv, and they are continuing to fight. so, this is not an easy battle. and what the russians have succeeded in doing is unifying nato, unifying our european allies and really bolstering the resolve of the ukrainian people. >> there's been criticism of the u.n. for not doing more earlier, being in more on the ground in ukraine faster, but also for, obviously, with the security council, russia has a veto power on the security council and can stop anything the security council -- the other partners in the security council might want to do. >> we've heard that overand over again. but what we've achieved in security council, we've isolated the russians. and we were able to actually take the condemnation of russia
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in a resolution to the general assembly and got more than 140 nations to vote to condemn the russians. so, they are not succeeding with their veto in stopping us. their veto is -- it's not allowing them to achieve the goals that they want to achieve. >> food security is obviously a huge thing. you spoke about it yesterday. the world food program chief said, a failure to open the closed ports in ukraine to get grain out could be, in their words, declaration of war on global food security. >> it absolutely is a declaration of war. >> that's going to have ripple effects around the world. >> absolutely. what the russians are doing at this moment, contributing to this food insecurity crisis, some countries import more than 50% of their grains from ukraine. and because of the russian blockades and the black sea, because of russian attacks on ukrainian farms, because of the war, russia has created this
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food crisis that we have already been dealing with for a number of years. and what they're doing is making it worse. >> and we're going to see the ripple effects not just -- in some cases in the u.s. -- but in north africa, in the middle east. >> we've been having discussions with our african colleagues. secretary blinken hosted ministerial in new york yesterday in which we brought a number of countries from across the globe together. and all of them expressed concerns about the impact of this food crisis on their countries. and in africa, many countries, again, depend on more than 50% of their imports from russia, from ukraine, from this region. and all of them are being impacted now by this war. >> ambassador, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> it's a pleasure to meet you in person. >> you too. coming up, crewless in space. we'll explain why no one is aboard the long awaited launch
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we end tonight's broadcast with a sight that no matter how many times you see it is amazing. >> 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1, and liftoff. starliner is headed back to space on the shoulders of atlas, powered by a work force dedicated to its success. >> this was in cape canaveral, florida. liftoff happened just a short time ago. no one is inside the starliner spacecraft, built by boeing, long delayed is uncrewed. the plan is to have it reach the international space station, dock, and return to earth within
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a week. boeing is trying to shona sa the creek is ready to carry people. we want to land hinge things over to laura coates and cnn tonight. >> i'm expecting you one day to go up to space. i'm waiting for that to happen. he chuckles. i am laura coates and this is "cnn tonight." tensions are high over abortion rights, otherwise known as women's right. even as roe still stands, there is a state that's on the cusp of enacti enacting most restrictive abortion ban in the entire nation. oklahoma's legislature passed house bill 327 today which could ban from fertilization. we're waiting to hear the final decision. not from six weeks like texas that passed that case or