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that people have it's because we haven't been unleashed. >> i got so fired up talking to marty because he's out there doing something. he talks about this problem and needing hard hats and, you know, steel-toed shoes to move this mass and actually get something done but he is not alone. the department of energy yesterday, john, announcing $3.5 billion of new spending on carbon capture on land, the biggest factory right now is in iceland moving about 10 tons a day. we need to get that to about 10 tons a second for this to work out, but it is encouraging that people are out there really thinking about big solutions. >> it's going to take that kind of energy, it's going to take that kind of creativity to make changes in this. >> i love this guy and i love this story. >> it's fantastic, right? a seaweed farm. who knew? >> i'm in. "new day" continues right now. i'm john berman, brianna is off, erica hill with me this morning on this new day.
president biden in south korea as north korea appears to be on the verge of testing a missile. and did a republican lawmaker lead a tour of the capitol complex on the eve of the insurrection? plus new cnn reporting this morning on rising tensions among conservative justices over roe v. wade. and u.s. health officials sounding the alarm on a new covid wave disrupting american life. we will get answers from the white house coronavirus czar. ♪ good morning to viewers here in the united states and all around the world, it is friday, may 20th and just a short time ago president biden speaking in seoul, south korea, kicking off his first visit to asia since taking office. biden joined the new south
korean president yoon seok-youl at a samsung semi-conductor plant. the main goal of this trip is to reassure america's asian allies of u.s.'s commitment to counter and contain china. the president will also visit gentleman on this trip. >> there is growing concern over what north korea may do next. bracing for the possibility that kim jong-un would conduct a missile test in coordination with biden arrival. let's bring in pentagon correspondent oren liebermann with the latest. what more do we know about the concerns? >> the u.s. has been watching this closely, now the u.s. assesses that north korea is getting ready to possibly fuel an intercontinental ballistic missile for a test and that's obviously a key phase because you don't leave that fuel in the missile for very long before you carry out a test. this went from possible to probable and now it looks like it might be imminent perhaps even while president joe biden is in south korea or in japan making that visit to meet with
allies in the region expressing the concerns about north korea. the u.s. has been watching this closely at a test site near pyongyang, the latest satellite imagery shows vehicles at the site, it doesn't yet show a missile or a launcher according to a u.s. official but that's what they're looking for. national security adviser jake sullivan said earlier this week the u.s. is ready for any contingencies. the u.s. has watched over the course of the last few months as it believes north korea carried out tests of this system but it has not yet launched it with intercontinental ballistic missile range and that's one of the concerns, that's what the u.s. is watching for now. sometime in may as the u.s. announced that north korea had carried out this test the u.s. said it would increase its surveillance of the region there of the sea in that area and sullivan said earlier this week the u.s. is ready to do so again to make sure not only u.s. interests are protected but also the interests of its allies as it looks to see if north korea does indeed carry out an icbm test. also worth noting the u.s. is
looking for a possible underground nuclear test from north korea. that perhaps not as imminent, not in the immediate future but no less urgent. >> oren liebermann, appreciate it this morning. thank you. we have new cnn reporting this morning about simmering tensions at the supreme court, specifically among the court's conservative majority and this is happening over the looming roe versus wade decision. i want to bring in cnn supreme court analyst joan biskupic from washington. what have you learned? >> clarence thomas is the senior justice in the block that would completely overturn roe v. wade and he recently took aim at chief justice john roberts and said something that he never had said before. clarence thomas prided himself never speaking critically about anyone on the court and he said specifically referring to the period just before john roberts joined, that was when we actually trusted each other. we may have been a dysfunctional
family, but we were a family and we loved it. we had trust. now, john roberts is the one justice who right now is trying to forestall the absolute overturn of roe v. wade at this moment. he favors upholding the mississippi abortion law before the justices which would prevent a woman from end ago pregnancy after 15 weeks, after 15 weeks of pregnancy but he did not want to completely roll it back. his greatest chance of making progress against what clarence thomas and the far right conservatives want is to pick off brett kavanaugh or amy coney barrett. clarence thomas' words certainly laid bare what might be happening behind the scenes in terms of progress roberts is making. one other thing, john, two years ago when john roberts cast the single most important vote to strike down a restrictive louisiana law, he joined with
the liberals there, something he hadn't done before, but, again, he really wanted to preserve something of precedent. clarence thomas writing for himself said roe was made up of whole cloth, it has no basis in the constitution, it is time to overturn t it was egregiously wrong. right now, john, i can tell you that roe v. wade will soon be overturned, the question is will it be done immediately over protests from chief justice john roberts or will that sort of action be slowed because of some compromise that roberts is able to do, again, over the criticism of those on the far right and specifically these days justice clarence thomas who is the leading senior in that block of justices. >> so, joan, is this a one-way street in terms of the where this is being directed? is roberts responding ought all? and also it's coded language but what is thomas accusing roberts of, not being on the up and up?
>> you know, it's funny you say it exactly that way because chief justice john roberts can be quite cagey about how he operates behind the scenes. i'm sure he wouldn't use that word on himself and would probably think he's trying to deal with his colleagues as an honest broker but he can be quite secretive. in times that he has pulled out a majority, essentially a rabbit out of a hat when it looked like things were not going to be his way or he wouldn't be able to broker something, an constitutionalist middle ground result which is what he has been aiming for, he did it by first working quietly, working in confidence with one or two other justices and that has built up resentment over time among the justices on the far right who have seen him kind of thwart the outcomes he wants, but what's different this time, john, is that clarence thomas went public. clarence thomas -- he may have had those kinds of feelings
toward the chief, but he has always kept them outside of the, you know -- his speeches. he has not been so overt in terms of his complaints. but that is the dynamic behind the scenes. so i think that it just goes to show just how much the tensions are ratcheted up. part of it is the disclosure they are all pointing fingers at each other who might have caused this, but the bottom line, the most important thing is how far they're going to go on roe v. wade and, as i say, it will likely be eventually overruled, it's just a matter of whether it's this year or maybe in the next couple of years, john. >> a good point. ultimately it may not be their feelings that matter as much as the actual policy and decisions that they make. terrific reporting. thank you so much. the gop senate race in pennsylvania still too close to call this morning. it is tightening, though, the gap between mehmet oz and dave
mccormick narrowing overnight. oz leads by a little more than 1,000 votes. joining us no you to help break down the upcoming georgia primary down david chalian host of the political briefing podcast. let's start there in pennsylvania. so we did see this lead narrow a little bit for dr. oz. it's still going to be a little while likely via a recount before we know the answer here. >> yes, but both campaigns are focused on getting to that final number before the recount, the likely recount gets launched. what you see here is that narrowed lead for oz, just over 1,000 vote margin, he's 1,088 votes ahead of dave mccormick. you see it's .1% difference and the law says anything within .5% difference automatically triggers a recount. what to watch for today, we are expecting in the 9:00 a.m. eastern hour that allegheny county near pittsburgh will release some votes, they are -- i think that county holds the
biggest bucket of still outstanding vote. we think it's fewer than 10,000 votes overall across the commonwealth that are still out there to be counted. so watch this morning to see if indeed mccormick can make up some of this ground out of allegheny county, which is a strong area for him. he may -- he may get this margin into the hundreds and that's what we may be talking about at the end of the day here, a race that is within a few hundred votes either way. >> and that really is close. obviously a recount, a few hundred votes, that may be close enough where the results could change over the next several weeks as we look at this. david, we are already thinking about next week, there are some big races to watch for next tuesday. what are you looking at? >> let's look first at that georgia gubernatorial primary on the republican side, this is a recent fox news poll. look at how brine kemp is performing against david perdue, the former senator that has donald trump's backing.
basically brian kemp has former vice president pence and the rest of republican establishment. he has got a 32 percentage point lead right now over david perdue and that is a lead that has grown since march. he had an 11 percentage point lead. so kemp heads into this primary with significant wind at his back and that is not good news for donald trump. just to show you other contests on tuesday that we're taking a look at, the alabama senate race, this also has a trump story line, one where donald trump unendorsed mo brooks, rescinded his endorsement because mo brooks was not strongly advocating for the baseless election lie about 2020 so we will see how this turns out on tuesday. on the democratic side in texas there is a runoff between henry cuellar the moderate incumbent democrat versus a progressive challenger. also they do not have the same position on abortion rights even inside the democratic party.
we've got more of an anti-abortion right, pro abortion right candidate here. roe v. wade has been playing into this race. and in arkansas the republican gubernatorial primary there, sarah huckabee sanders, former trump press secretary is the front runner in the race to emerge as the republican nominee on tuesday. a lot to come up next tuesday. >> david chalian, we know you will be a big part of it. thanks for joining us this morning. >> sure. so republican congressman barry loudermilk says the house january 6 committee is pushing a false narrative by asking for information about a tour he gave the day before the capitol attack. in a letter to loudermilk, and this is the news, this just happened, the committee chairs bennie thompson and liz cheney requested his voluntary cooperation saying they believe he has information about a tour he gave in the capitol complex the day before the insurrection citing reports that some rioters were gathering information about the capitol layout through tours ahead of the attacks, though the
letter does not directly connect the tour loudermilk gave with those allegations. joining us now very special guest dana bash, cnn dheef police cal correspondent and co-anchor of "state of the union." >> you should always have that introduction. >> follow me around in my life. >> that would be a promotion for me. >> also this lighting would help. >> what's the important issue here at this point? the committee is getting at something here, what exactly is it? >> this has been the unanswerable or unanswered question since january 6th, right? were there members of the congress, sitting members of congress, who were at all involved in helping rioters, helping insurrectionists, and what the committee said in this new letter last night was that they believe the answer is yes, despite a congressman loudermilk in this particular case, his denials, and the denials more broadly of republicans who produced their own report saying that they looked at all of the footage for 48 hours before
january 6 and there was no evidence of it. what the letter suggests is that there is evidence that the answer is yes, that congressman loudermilk did give a tour. we haven't seen that evidence, we don't know how critical it is and what we do know is that loudermilk is saying, well, what i did is i had a group of families -- excuse me, a family that they met at a church in my office. >> i have a direct quote, let me read a direct quote from the letter so you can see exactly what the committee is saying. republicans on the committee on house administration of which you are a member claim to have reviewed security footage from the days preceding january 6 and determined that there were no tours, no large groups, no one with maga hats on, however, the select committee's review of evidence directly contradicts that denial. >> that's going to be the key here because it's a he said/he said and if they do actually have evidence it's going to be up to the committee to produce
that. first and foremost perhaps to him in private so that he comes and talks to them before the public hearings, but then if that doesn't happen assuming that nothing changes, to show the public. >> right. and that's what -- >> and we don't have it yet. >> we will either get it before or if not hopefully in the hearings in june. we do want to also talk about this new law in oklahoma which would be the most restrictive abortion ban in the country and for people who maybe aren't familiar with it this morning it also very specifically uses language in the bill that defines an unborn child as a human fetus or embryo in any stage of gestation from fertilization until birth and that's what's key with this bill here. they're saying from the moment of fertilization except in a few very small instances there can be no abortion in the state. >> it is like you said the most restrictive law. and this isn't something that is even temporary or isn't
hypothetical because the reason oklahoma was able to pass this and did it the way that it did is because of what we saw in texas. this is actually separate from what we expect to happen with roe v. wade. a couple of months ago the supreme court decided that they weren't going to shut down a law in texas which gets around roe v. wade, which, again, might be irrelevant in a couple of weeks, by making it sort of a civil action. that people, regular people, can enforce this, and they use other legal mechanisms to do that. so the point is that with this law today, tomorrow, in oklahoma you cannot get an abortion at any -- you cannot end a pregnancy at any time after fertilization which for people who have gone through the process of getting pregnant and having a baby, that's almost impossible to know.
>> yes, it is. >> i mean, it is possible in some ways, but it's impossible to know in other ways. so it makes it incredibly restrictive and it's really unclear how this would be enforced. >> it's also interesting that the couple of carveouts that are there, the health of the mother n a case of rape or incest but those cases of rape or incest have to have been reported to law enforcement which adds another layer for the woman or perhaps young girl dealing with this. it's also interesting the civilian -- sort of the civilian enforcement aspect of it. there is a lot of concern about how that could extend beyond state lines. if somebody, say, in new york were giving money to a fund to help women in oklahoma there are now questions being raised as to whether that donor could then be in the target of some of these people maybe in oklahoma going after people who are helping a woman get an abortion. is that something we are going to see play out in other states, you think? >> possibly. absolutely. i mean, there are so many aspects to the change in laws that we are already seeing. one of course is the -- what
happens to the woman, what happens to her life, what happens to the life -- >> life of the child. >> of the child, all of those are understandably important questions, but then there's the criminalization of this as you mentioned. who is culpable? some laws explicitly say it's the provider, it's even perhaps somebody who helps them get to the medical professional to get what would be an illegal abortion. and then how are those -- those illegal acts, because they would be, how are they enforced? and then there's a whole question i know you were talking about with laura jarrett which has to do with modern science which is ibf because a lot of people have babies these days with the miracle of modern science and technology but it requires making an embryo. what happens to those embryos? >> a new legal wilderness really over the course of the summer almost definitely. dana, you have a big show on
sunday, who is going to be on "state of the union"? >> one of the topics that is definitely going to come up with the arkansas governor asa hutchinson, he will be on, his state, arkansas, is one of 13 that has a trigger law and they have -- would have as soon as roe v. wade is overturned one of the toughest anti-abortion laws on the books, then you see josh shapiro after he became the democratic nominee for governor in pennsylvania. >> circle it on the calendar. thank you. a texas border town fearing a surge of migrants as the biden administration prepares to lift border restrictions. we will go there live next. less ahead we will be joined by dr. ashish jha with the latest on this rise on case numbers we're seeing nationwide. plus -- >> three, two, one, and liftoff. >> liftoff finally, boeing's star liner on its way to the
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so with the white house set to end title 42 a tremp era pandemic border restriction next week, an already overwhelmed texas boarder is bracing for a surge in migrants that official fear could strain resources. cnn's priscilla alvarez live with the latest in hidalgo, texas. give us a sense of what you're seeing down there. >> reporter: john, border communities have seen the ebbs and flows of migration for years, but there is added urgency and concern now with the end of the trump era pandemic restriction known as title 42. i spoke with the mayor about the
concern he has that his city is going to have strained resources and his warning that the preparations by the biden administration just might not be enough. take a listen. >> i have confidence in the preparations, i don't think it will succeed. i think we really need -- and we always talk about a comprehensive immigration policy, they need to sit down in washington and i'm saying this now, i don't even want them here anymore to come take pictures, i don't care about the president being here for a photo op or the vice president or anybody, i want them to be in washington. >> reporter: now, there is also discord in washington, d.c. among republicans and even democrats about the end of title 42 and, again, this is a public health authority invoked at the onset of the coronavirus pandemic that allowed officials to turn migrants away at the u.s. southern border as a result of the public health crisis. now, the cdc said in april that it could -- that this authority was no longer necessary given
the access to vaccines and other treatments for covid-19 and had set the may 23rd date, that is on monday, for this restriction to end. we are still waiting for a judge to make a decision on whether the administration can continue with those plans or whether he will block the administration from ending title 42 as it intends. the justice department asking this judge this week to rule before monday because of operational challenges. j john? >> priscilla alvarez, i know you're tracking it closely. thank you so much. boeing's star liner spacecraft heading into space. >> three, two, one, and liftoff. >> the uncrewed test mission now on its way to the international space station. last night's launch comes after two previous launch attempts were marred by technical problems. cnn's rachel crane joins us now.
if successful this time boeing is hoping that nasa astronauts could fly on star liner by the end of the year? >> that's right, erica, but if history is any indicator boeing is likely to miss that goal not just because, you know, these goals and timelines in the space industry always slip, but because, as you pointed out, the starliner program has been plagued by failures and delays. yesterday's launch came after two failed launch attempts, back in 2019 in december they had a launch that had major problems, an internal clock was 11 hours off that caused thrusters to prematurely fire and that spacecraft never made it to the international space station. another launch attempt had valve issues. yesterday showed the third time was the charm for boeing, but it wasn't out -- it wasn't without some bumps in the road. shortly after liftoff boeing had a press conference where they revealed that two of the 12
thrusters on board the spacecraft and those thrusters are -- they are intended to control the maneuvers of the spacecraft, they failed. luckily, redundancies were in place and they kept that spacecraft on course to rendezvous with the international space station. boeing says they're confident that the mission objectives won't be interrupted as a result of this failure and the team is, you know, troubleshooting what exactly happened there, but, you know, boeing and nasa are really hoping that this test launch is successful. that's because, erica, over $4 billion of taxpayer money has been sunk into this program. spacex luckily has been flying our astronauts to the international space station for some time now. they've had five successful launches. boeing hoping to follow their lead. >> we will continue to follow it along with you. rachel, appreciate it. thanks. michigan secretary of state revealing for the first time that former president trump
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covid cases on the rise in most states across the country. health officials are blaming the highly contagious omicron subvariants. even still officials in cities including new york say they will not reinstate measures like mask mandates because of relatively stable hospitalization numbers and numbers for deaths. there is positive news, the cdc has expanded eligibility of boosters for children ages 5 through 11, vaccines for children under 5 still awaiting authorization. joining me now is the white house covid-19 response coordinator dr. ashish jha. always nice to see you again.
the daily case number at this point is 100,000 and that's probably an underestimate because of all the people testing at home and not reporting it. in terms of the wave we are seeing, how high do you expect the daily numbers to get? >> good morning, john. thanks for having me here. you're absolutely right, we are crossing that 100,000 threshold and i am convinced we are substantially undercounting the number of infections out there because of home tests. so we have a lot of infections, it's continued to rise and i expect that that number will continue to rise in the days and weeks ahead. we don't have any projections of exactly how high. obviously we want to keep that number down as much as possible but we are also tracking hospitalizations and deaths which thankfully remain pretty low and my hope is that it stays that way. >> one of the things we are seeing is people being infected for a second, third, in some cases fourth time. as we are two plus years into this pandemic, what are you learning about these repeat infections in terms of what it means for immunity and also the
severity of these infections? >> yeah, it's a really good question. first and foremost we can now dispense with the misinformation that if you get infected once you have immunity for life. a lot of people have argued that and we have always said that was not the case. the second thing we're learning is that the virus is evolving, it is evolving relatively quickly, trying to escape our immunity, but when people do get that break through infection after vaccines or that reinfection generally it is less severe and that's obviously a very, very good thing. we've got to keep working on building up the wall of immunity against this virus. >> what does that mean? does that mean we are going to be getting shots every six months? my wife just got her fourth shot? head her two initial shots plus a booster, plus a booster >> right now we are going to have to update our vaccines in the fall and winter because of what we have out there. i do believe that right now people who are 50 and above should go out and get the second
booster because we have so much infections. and in the short run, yeah, like we have had to boost people about every six months. over the long run i am confident we will develop more durable vaccines, the virus will also settle down and so my hope is over the long run this comes down to maybe a once a year shot but right now we're having to boost people a little more frequently because of how quickly the viruses continue to evolve. >> what about the people lucky enough to be younger than 50 at this point it's just 50 and older you're saying for a second booster, but if you are in your 40s at this point there are six months plus out from having the first booster, why hold off? >> yeah, it's a great question. this is something the fda is looking at right now. this is going to be a decision by fda and cdc as it always is. they are looking at the evidence and data and will make a determination about what to do for people under 50 and whether they should be eligible for a second booster or not. >> part of the good news is that when people are getting sick it tends to be less severe because they are vaccinated and boosted and you do have the antiviral
treatments, paxlovid, but being infected at this point it does basically give you a five or ten-daytime out from society. what are the considerations going forward about perhaps reimagining how we deal with this because it is a blow on businesses, it is a blow on schools if all of a sudden you're having to drop out for five days. >> this is why people who say cases no longer matter, infections don't matter, only hospitalizations and deaths do, i think this is one of the reasons they're wrong. obviously hospitalizations and deaths matter a lot and maybe that's what matters most, but when you have a lot of infections, as you said, you're going to be disruption, you will have people out of work, out of school. we don't want very, very high levels of infection circulating in our community. we've got to do what we can to keep those down for exactly that reason and obviously some proportion of people will go on to develop long-term complications as well. there are lots of good reasons why we want to keep infection
levels down. >> no one wants to get infected but do we have to rethink what happens to people who are infected in letting them be part of society more quickly? >> well, i mean, i think, you know, the question of whether you want to let somebody who is super contagious and knows it out and about, my general feeling right now given how much infection there is in the community is that that would only make things worse. so certainly right now i believe that if you are -- if you are infected and you are -- and you know you are, you really should be isolating until you are no longer contagious. >> dr. jha, i do appreciate it. these are the questions that a lot of people are asking right now as we are two plus years into this and i do appreciate the time you're giving us. >> thank you. coming up, an employee from the buffalo grocery store reveals a disturbing encounter with the gunman more than a month before the shooting that claimed ten lives. plus, what u.s. intelligence is saying about russian public opinion on ukraine and whether it could impact putin's actions.
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a shakeup at the top levels of russia's military command, according to a british intelligence report russia has fired senior commanders who performed poorly during the initial stages of the war in ukraine. suzanne malveaux is live for us in lviv this morning. what more are we learning about this report? >> reporter: this british intelligence report essentially not only conveys a sense of incompetence on the part of the russian military, but also this culture of cover ups and scandal and really finger pointing there. so they mention some details citing specific russian officials who had been suspended for various reasons, failures at
the beginning of the war, one of them who was suspended for the failure of actually capturing kharkiv, another one who they held responsible for the ukrainian sinking of that russian war ship, the mausk hav a. the report suggests there will be more chaos and confusion on the ground from russian military as they seek permission from their peer yors in terms of what direction, what they should do next on the ground. we should also let you know that there is some confusion and a lot of uncertainty in mariupol in that steel plant where there's still hundreds of ukrainian military, soldiers as well as the higher top brass that are inside of that steel plant, many, many social media messages that are coming out that cnn is collecting and trying to verify essentially from a soldier we heard earlier today on his instagram page saying this message that this is the place of my death and my --
to say good-bye and some sort of surrender. another higher level commander saying that they had gotten an order there up above not to defend the city, but rather to focus on themselves, suggesting that perhaps they will be coming out of the facility voluntarily. and then this message, this is a video message that was sent out by another military leader inside suggesting that there was more afoot. >> translator: my command and i are on the territory of the azovstal plant, an operation is under way. i will not give any details. i'm grateful to the whole world and to ukraine for support. see you. >> reporter: so, erica, you can imagine ukrainians all just watching and waiting to see what unfolds there, that potentially this could be a surrender situation or situation where you see more carnage. erica? >> suzanne, appreciate the
update from lviv this morning. we have new cnn reporting, u.s. intelligence officials believe that any change in russian public opinion even a dramatic one which honestly is unlikely would not be enough to make vladimir putin give up on the war. despite all that's happening in ukraine, this reporting says that putin is likely to remain it power. katie, you are part of the team reporting on this and i think there is really important stuff in here. what have you learned? >> john, putin has established a repressed media environment inside of russia, he has successfully created this false alternate narrative of the war through propaganda, he's cracked down on early protests and public dissent and maybe most importantly at least nor now he's been able to isolate his population from some of the worst bite of the western sanctiones in their day to day life. at least for now the war remains broadly popular inside russia and u.s. intelligence officials have skeptical that that is likely to change at least in the
short run, but maybe most interestingly officials that we spoke to said that even if there were to be this big dramatic swing in public opinion against the war, officials are doubtful that putin would have to be responsive to that swing. he would likely be able to move just to sort of crack down further on dissent and continue to prosecute the war as he sees fit. remember, john, this is somebody who is uniquely determined to carry out this war. he sees himself as fulfilling a kind of sense of personal destiny and bringing ukraine back into the russian fold as putin sees it and i want to share with you something that multiple sources familiar with the intelligence told us, which is that putin is sort of intimately involved in the kind of day to day decision-making surrounding this campaign, the kind of operational decisions like where tack lines are going to be that in western militaries would normally be reserved for much lower ranking officials. as a senior nato official told us, if putin isn't listening to his own senior military
commanders, own cabinet it's unlikely he will be responsive to public opinion in that way, either. >> intimately involved with even the minor details. also important because the u.s. basically has to plan for the reality that putin will be there for a long time, no matter what happens on the ground. >> precisely so, although, john, our reporting does indicate there has been some sort of early analytical work being done inside the intelligence community to look at what the end of a putin era might look like eventually. the consensus is there is a possibility that it could look pretty messy. >> raises a whole bunch of questions. katie, i have to say theyerrifi reporting. thank you. president biden in south korea this morning, what north korea might be doing to grab the spotlight. we're live on the ground coming up. also a michigan election official who faced threats of arrest and death allegedly from the former u.s. president himself. she will join us. - hey honey. - hey dad.
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one week ago, friday the 13th turned out to be the luckiest day for a 4-month-old baby. that's when a police officer went beyond the call to save him. cnn's nick valencia has the story. >> reporter: looking at senior patrol officer robert odin, you can tell he's a pretty tough guy, as part of the atlanta police department s.w.a.t. team, the 18-year veteran is trained for the most hostile calls. but on may 13th, a routine patrol turned him into one family's godsend. >> he's not responding. >> the family actually pulled in right in the driveway. >> knock on the door.
>> they're looking for help desperately. >> they're screaming help, help. >> reporter: you're looking at this 4-month-old who is lifeless. >> he was -- he's pretty pale in the face, his lips were kind of light blue, so i could tell he wasn't getting any air, no blood flow. i immediately started compressions. as i continued, i think after my second breath i gave him, his legs kind of curled up, so i felt, okay, we're getting somewhere. >> reporter: while wearing 20 pounds of s.w.a.t. gear, odin continued to calmly and delicately gift infant cpr. within seconds, the little boy started to show signs of life. when is the last time you put cpr to practice in your job? >> honestly, probably 15 years ago. >> reporter: and yet here you are, rescuing a 4-month-old. >> yeah, yeah. >> reporter: that's crazy. >> it worked. wasn't perfect, but it worked. >> reporter: odin himself a father of two says he empathizes with the family and is just grateful to have been of
service. the mother declined our request for an interview, but odin says they told him the boy d.j. is expected to fully recover. >> it took a minute for it to sink in, but, you know, it is a blessing to know that i was able to, you know, help this family. they're not mourning right now, they're celebrating. >> reporter: a celebration for one family, and for odin, a blessing. nick valencia, cnn, atlanta. >> infant cpr, to see it happen -- >> that's what i was thinking too, when is the last time you used it. infant cpr, yeah, great story. michigan's top election official alleging for first time in an interview with nbc that former president trump made threatening comments about her after she refused to overturn the results of the 2020 election. >> even the president himself called on me to be arrested and tried for treason, potentially executed. >> a trump spokesman denied
these claims, saying secretary benson knowingly lied throughout the interview. she joins us now. thank you for being with us. so what exactly did you learn was said about you, and how did you learn it? >> i received a phone call at a time when, again, threats were abundant in the aftermath of the 2020 election. this was right around the same time that people had showed up outside my house, threatening me as well, and so, you know, i received a call that this had happened and it was told to me that in the perspective of this is how bad things are getting, and my focus at the time entirely was just on focusing on protecting the results, the accurate results of the 2020 election. so my mind and my thoughts shifted completely to that, as i, you know, worked to just feel safe, but also feel that the truth is on our side, the law is on our side, and, you know, that
i wasn't going to back down to any threats from anyone, including the former president of the united states. >> you have been vocal about the threat that you received as we just heard, as john pointed out, a trump spokesperson telling nbc you were knowingly lying during that interview. why did you decide to talk about this particular moment now? >> because the threats to our election officials at every level continue to rise. and are escalating especially as we enter into a new election cycle this year. i want americans to know local election officials, state officials, democrats, republicans, independents, and cities and rural areas all across the country are facing a barrage of threats simply for trying to do our jobs with integrity. and it is time for all of us to make sure election officials are able to be safe in their homes, safe doing their jobs from everyone, and basically i feel this has to stop. >> in pennsylvania, the
republican party nominated doug mastriano to be their gubernatorial candidate. this is someone who worked to overturn the election results. unabashedly and publicly. what does it tell you that this appears to be happening now around the country? >> yeah, that again these threats that are directly tied to the misinformation emerging out of the 2020 election cycle, this election denialism that we now see candidates all across the country, including in michigan, pennsylvania, and elsewhere running on is linked to the direct threats that election officials are receiving. it is also important to know these threats aren't just threats against election officials, as awful as those are, these are threats to democracy, these are threats to the american people's ability to freely choose who governs them and hold them accountable. i think it is time for everyone, candidates, democrats, republicans, anyone to start telling the truth and to stop denying the results of the 2020
election, so that we can move forward and continue to protect and expand democracy in a state, in a country where every citizen deserves to know that their vote counts regardless of where they live or who they vote for. >> your opponent, christina karamo said in the past she felt as an overseer in 2020, an observer, she had seen some election irregularities. she said actually you should go to jail. she accused you of election corruption, awe know. what are the conversations happening right now on the ground in michigan? >> the conversations i'm having are with our election officials, with law enforcement, with lawmakers, are about how we can protect our democracy, and how we can protect those who run it in times like these. i myself allocated $8 million in security funding for our local election officials and clerks so that they can invest in improvements to the security of our processes, and our staff, and i've also called on our state legislature and lawmakers
to increase the penalties for those who threaten election officials, because, again, this has to stop, there is no place for rhetoric like this in our democracy and we should be talking about issues that affect our state, the american people, as opposed to continuing to spread conspiracy theories and lies about the 2020 election and about the security of our processes. >> michigan secretary of state jocelyn benson, thank you for being with us this morning. thank you so much. >> happy to be here. thanks. "new day" continues right now. i'm jn ohn berman. brianna is here. erica hill here on this "new day." president biden touches down in seoul amid the rising possibility that north korea could test a nuclear missile during his trip. the republican senate primary in pennsylvania gets even tighter overnight as president trump amps up the pressure. in the racist attack at the buffalo grocery store, a worker says she encountered the suspect
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