tv CNN Newsroom With Jim Acosta CNN May 21, 2022 1:00pm-2:00pm PDT
you're live in the "cnn newsroom." i'm jim acosta in washington. president biden in the middle of his first presidential visit to asia. even there the ukraine crisis is a top try or the. today in seoul, he signed a $40 billion aid package from ukraine. the bill was flown in from washington showing how time sensitive every bit of military support is for ukraine. this next round of assistance comes after russia claims it destroyed a stockpile of weapons provided by europe and the u.s. near kyiv. russia has also unleashed a fresh round of air strikes. you're seeing some of what we're talking about right there, including a missile strike on a
cultural center. that's the ex-motion you saw a few moments ago -- actually seeing it right now. president zelenskyy calling this absolute evil. also, ukraine's last stand in mariupol appears to be over. the remaining fighters at the steal steel plant surrendered. it would be putin's biggest win yet in this brutal war. russians dropped insend dare munitions on a village near kharkiv. >> reporter: putin would choke the light and life out of here. we are driving into the smoke of an incendiary munitions attack, we're told here, against this civilian village. homes, fields, even the air itself torched. vera says she saw it staurling from the sky and her neighbor hit.
>> reporter: the incendiary munition which burns hot through everything in its path came after heavy normal shelling which makes you question, like so much here, exactly why russia needed to heat fire on top of heavy explosive. it hit just ten minutes ago, this man said, pointing the way. some left bewildered. others in the first moments of shock. valentina is very matter of fact as she describes what happened to victor in her neighbor's house. >> reporter: she shows us the
courtyard where a dead man lies, a large hole in his chest, an ear torn off. she points to the body just behind the tree and then says who he is. >> reporter: victor had rushed to check on their neighbor's home. russia occupied here for weeks and, as it retreats, these tiny corners of grief are where it visits its angry. up the record toward russia's last positions before the border, the shells land even closer. natalia's husband died in shelling weeks ago and her house is, like almost everything here, ruined.
>> reporter: for the weeks here when it was occupied, she lived across the street from an enormous russian base. our guides from ukrainian rapid response unit are cautious. fighting is intensifying up the road and they know the russians got comfortable here. their base even needed this aircraft warning device up high to tell russian jets it was friendly. >> this is their problem. each time they move forward, here they are in what was once a russian position. look all around you. impossible to know who is really in control of this area with the fight happening just on the other side of the hill. >> reporter: the smell of corpses among the pines. under every footstep the threat of mines. >> everywhere you look, fox hole, ammunition boxes, clearly
a significant russian base here. they're calling it a little town, using this forest as cover. but clearly hit really hard. >> reporter: the tomb of the unknown russian soldiers, this says. ghoulish relics here where it once buzzed with the task of sieging the city. smoldering in the trees here, but swallowed in their tall silence. nick paton walsh, cnn. cnn military analyst and retired lieutenant general mark hertling. general hertling, great to have you, as always. let's start with your reaction to the report we just saw. terrific reporting again from our nick paton walsh. also the russian incendiary munition attack, torching a village, killing civilians. we've reported on attacks on civilians before. this is again down right
horrific. are these attacks serving any purpose? we've asked you this before. it seems wanton destruction. >> it is a terror attack against the citizen, jim. but it's also an attempt to intimidate ukrainian forces, the constant artillery fire. i was thinking to myself as i watched nick -- that brilliant report by nick paton walsh talking and walking through the forest. during my career i've done what the army calls staff rides where you go to past battlefields and walk. that scene just reminded me of some of the places i've been in france, in belgium, where we've looked at battles of world war i, world war ii where the same kind of terror and civilian involvement was portrayed. where civilians were sucked into the battlefield amidst the killings, but the difference was that was maneuver fighting, forces were going through the
cities trying to attack one another. what seems to be occurring now is this is denigrated to a stalemate where russia is only attempting, not so much to hit the ukrainian forces, but to destroy the villages, the way of life and the culture of ukrainian people. that's what's so different about this and what is so horrific about the russian way of waging war. they also do this during world war ii to germany on the eastern front, but this is something where it seemed to be almost directly geared toward hurting ukrainian population and culture as opposed to obtaining any kind of military objective or military advantage. it just boggles my mind as a soldier. >> general, we've been showing this video throughout the program of this attack, this cultural center being just obliterated by a russian missile strike. president zelenskyy's office has
called this evil, but at the same time, a nato official has floated this idea that ukraine could recapture crimea and donbas. is that a possibility? and what should the viewers do at home, general, when they see these catastrophic bombing attacks. it obviously catches your attention and perhaps leads you to believe that, perhaps the russians can pull this out long term. at the same time you have nato officials saying, no, ukraine is still positioned well to hand the russians defeat after defeat after defeat. >> i believe the latter. this is just -- it is going again, jim, going back to assaulting the culture of ukraine, not attempting to gain any military objectives. when the russian forces do try and maneuver, they gain ground to a degree, but then they're
immediately pushed back. what we're going see is much like world war ii, we're going to see a little bit of a stalemate. i think what we're seeing is the advantage is tipping more and more towards the potential for the ukrainian forces to maneuver. do i believe as president zelenskyy said, they're going to regain the territory lost during the 2014 invasions by russia both in the donbas and crimea? i think there's a good chance of that because ukraine's forces are generating momentum where every indicator we see from the intelligence sector is russia is not only losing soldiers and equipment, but their morale is exceedingly low. in every kind of war crime we're seeing, ukrainian morale seems to get even stronger. they want to take back their sovereign territory which is their strategic objective. >> that leads me to my next question. russia claiming that the last ukrainian fighters have surrendered at the steel plant
in mariupol. it could mark a symbolic victory, i suppose, for the kremlin. is it substantial enough to really do much of anything to impact morale? again, are we sort of giving the kremlin maybe more credit than it's worth here? >> i'm giving the kremlin zero credit, jim. there were about 1,500 soldiers, plus or minus 100 ka, ukrainian soldiers in that plant. they held off, some estimates are, between 12 and 14,000 russian soldiers. this was a battlefield victory even though at the end the ukrainian forces had to surrender because of a lack of supply, food and water. they held out probably close to 20 bat tollian tactical groups that could have been used elsewhere in the fight and russia could not regenerate those forces to go into the donbas. this fight in mariupol is going
to go down in ukrainian history, i firmly believe, much like the battle of boston, the battle of trenton in new jersey. where there was seeming defeat that was later turned into victory. i think this is going to live on in ukrainian legend and heraldry hundreds of years into the future of what those fighters did in mariupol. >> i couldn't agree with you more. absolutely. they've fought heroically throughout all of this. general hertling, great to have you on again. thanks so much. we appreciate it. >> always a pleasure, jim. thank you. coming up, new emails revealing how the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas tried to upend president biden's election victory in the key state of arizona. she's getting graded on her green investments with merrill. a-plus. still got it. (whistle blows) your moneyey never stops workig for you with merrill,
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the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas urged arizona lawmakers to overturn president biden's win in the 2 2020 election. jenny thomas asked two as adds state representatives to set aside biden's victory and choose a, quote, clean slate of electors. the revelations have led critics to question her husband's participation in a supreme court case earlier this year that rejected trump's bid to withhold documents from the january 6th committee investigating the insurrection. thomas was the only justice to dissent. joining us, ana navarro and washington bureau chief for the grio, april ryan. ladies, always great to have you on, especially together. always a fun discussion. april, let me start with you first. how problematic is this for justice thomas? he's been on the speaking circuit lecturing everybody about this, that and the other thing and more information comes out showing what jenny thomas has been up to. it's just incredible.
>> right, the hypocrisy. i really wonder what kind of pillow talk these two have in the evenings when they're together. but what this does to all of these revolutions that the january 6th select committee is pulling out about jenny thomas is further -- calling clarence thomas into question about his integrity because of his close proxim to ginni thomas who happens to be his wife. once it deals with clarence thomas and the integrity issue, it moves over into the u.s. supreme court. how can he adequately lay down decisions, make decisions on various issues to include possibly january 6th issues when his wife has been said through documents from january 6th to have funded buses for january 6th. talk to mark meadows asking now revolutions about that the arizona numbers be overturned.
it brings into question the integrity of the kocourt and clarence thomas who is the husband of ginni thomas. >> ann, i want you to chime in. what took place in the pennsylvania gop primary this past week has been on my mind for days and days. trump is pushing the candidate. he endorsed dr. oz to in a primary when the other candidate mccormick was leading on election night, he wasn't saying stop the vote. now he wants oz to declare victory. during the 2020 election he was trying to say stop the count which would have disenfranchised republican and democratic voters. in pennsylvania he's trying to deny the will of republican voters in that primary. this is what the "wall street journal" editorial board is saying, if mr. mccormick wins
the vote, would mr. trump smear him as an election thief? trump could discourage republicans from supporting him, giving away a senate seat. what do you think of this? >> donald trump, we know, melania knows this, everybody knows this, cares about one thing and one thing only, donald trump. he's looking at his win and loss sheet. for him, it's not about mehmet oz. it's about i endorse this guy, therefore, it's my name, my record, it's how much i won, how much i matter, how influential, how relevant i still am, how much i own and still dominate the republican party. that's why he's pushing mehmet oz, to say there's cheating, to say this and say this, because it's all about how it reflects on trump. that's why you see him abandoning purdue in georgia
because that race and that -- was an obsession of trump's, right? we know he's been obsessed with georgia. we know he's been obsessed with settling scores with governor brian kemp because he thought he wasn't vocal enough and support enough during the challenges to trump's elections. he's now abandoned purdue because anybody with two eyes, anybody with one eye can see that purdue is losing. trump has walked away from it, is throwing himover board because again it reflects on one thing. it reflects on trump and the fact that this is going to go down in the loss column and how much does trump still influence republican primary voters. >> honestly, we were seeing this
with a different panel discussion in the last hour. i sort of feel like all this horse race talk is a distraction from what is really a much more serious issue, and that is just about every republican candidate under the sun, nobody is repudiating donald trump. i can't think of anything who is really repudiating donald trump, and they're almost all election denialists, april, with the exception of what's taking place in georgia. as ana was saying, it seems david purdue may have seen the writing on the walls, his campaign spending zero dollars on tv ads for the last week of the race. he even had sarah palin come into town. let's take a listen to that. >> kemp had opportunity to do something about the shenanigans that had gone on in this past election. i don't know why he was so hesitant, why he just went along to go along, and that's
unfortunate and we can count on david purdue to do opposite of that. >> what do you think, april? >> the shenanigans. the shenanigans of it all. at the end of the day, sarah palin is trying to play cleanup, since donald trump has moved on, she's trying now to make sure that her name is out there yet again for whatever she wants to do and run for and see if it does work, that she could help bolster purdue. at the end of the day she's saying the old tried and true thing, the them versus us. the democrats are hurting america. she's going back to what she stood on -- what she lost when she ran with john mccain for that presidential ticket, us versus them again. >> listen, the other thing is slal was there for the closing event of purdue's campaign. there's two huge events, really significant events, important when it comes to how they're portrayed in the media for a
campaign, the launch and the closer. that purdue closing event could have fit in a studio apartment in new york city and there would have still been room to spare. it tells you everything. >> it does tell you everything, but also look at what mike pence did. mike pence is now basically crossing the line again saying i'm standing with who? kemp, someone trump didn't want. the division within the republican party who stands for what is very interesting, whether it's closer, beginning, middle or end to watch the, quote, unquote, shenanigans is something to behold. >> marjorie taylor greene is spreading another conspiracy theory, just when you think it can't get more bananas, it can, the current monkey pox outbreak
to billionaire bill gates. >> back in 2003 they went ahead and started talking about something called money pox. this is something bill gates has certainly been talking about, monkey pox. bill gates, i want to remind everyone, he wants to grow fake meat in a petri dish and wants us to drink poop water. i don't know why we're letting bill gates decide our health decisions. bill gates is very concerned about monkey pox because this is something he can make a lot of money off of, him and his buddies, all the democrat do donors. >> i don't know about monkey pox, but i have a migraine listening to that. >> i hate the fact that we're talking about it and amplifying it. i think it's so hurtful and damaging when these ridiculous narratives are amplified. if you're getting your medical advice for marjorie taylor greene, you shouldn't be worried about monkey pox, you should be
worried about brain damage. >> she's up for re-election, april. is anybody going to be able to beat her? it's a safe red district. this republican primary. there are other candidates trying to take her out. what do you think? >> it's about the tolerance of that community. we'll have to see. but let me say this to you, what she's fearing about monkey pox sounds so familiar when we started with covid. what was it? a democratic hoax from the president of the united states. she's channeling what we have seen before, this theater that is detrimental to the health of america and particularly georgians. the question is what tolerance do they have from this speak from marjorie taylor greene and this awful rhetoric, this divisive, racist, harmful health rhetoric she's giving. that's the question. >> you saw the republican party knock madison cawthorn out of
north carolina, but they're not doing that with marjorie taylor greene. it's fascinating to watch. ana navarro, april ryan, great to see both of you. >> thanks. >> thank you. former trump attorney rudy giuliani has finally answered questions from the january 6th committee. friday's interview lasted more than nine hours. details from cnn's ryan nobles. former new york city mayor rudy giuliani may be one of the most important players in the investigation into what led to the insurrection at the capitol on january 6th. on friday he met for the first time with the committee and it was a lengthy interview. we're told more than nine hours he was deposed by investigators for the committee. this came after giuliani had a back and forth between the committee, had his deposition scheduled, he backed out at the last minute, because he wanted to record the deposition and release the information on his own. the committee wasn't interested in that. they backed off and had more negotiations that led to this deposition that took place on
friday. giuliani is an important player for a number of reasons. the most principle one being that he was at the center 06 this effort to undermine the 2020 election results, serving as the president's personal attorney. he worked with a team of lawyers from all over the country to try to undermine election results in several swing states. he also was behind some of the plots that involved trying to get the former vice president, mike pence, to prevent the certification of the election results, issuing a fake set of electors that senators could perhaps vote on as well as other attempts at the state level to convince legislators to toss out election results. it's important because the committee truly believes that activity, the time between the election in november and what happened on january 6th are definitively linked, that you don't have one without the other. giuliani was working on these efforts to undermine the election results right up until january 6th. giuliani has taken a different
route than other souts of the former president, including steve bannon and mark meadows who have defied the committee's request to appear. they're facing a criminal contempt charge. what does the committee do with the information giuliani provided to them? they have a series of high-stakes public hearings that will take place in the month of june. we'll have to see if what giuliani told them this week will be any part of that report. ryan nobles, cnn, washington. coming up, actress ellen bar kin taking the stand in johnny depp's defamation case against amber heard. >> he's just a jealous man, controlling. where are you going? who are you going with? what did you do last night? yeah, you'llll get used to it. this mom's depositing money with tools on-handnd. cha ching. and this mom, , well, she's setting an appointment here, so her son can get set up there
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erratic behavior. >> reporter: former friends and associates testified that their relationships with the actor has deteriorated and his career suffered as his substance abuse worsened. depp has alleged it was a 2018 opinion piece heard wrote in "the washington post" which did not mention him by name that falsely painted him as an abuser. he claimed that caused him to lose out on a multimillion dollar payday for a sixth pirates of the caribbean movie. >> are you aware of any decision maker within disney who has ever said they are not casting johnny depp in pirates 6 or any other role because of amber heard's op-ed? >> no. >> reporter: depp's former agent of 30 days says his alleged
substance abuse issues contributed to his attitude onset, including wearing an earpiece in order to be fed lines during filming. >> because his star had dimmed due to it getting hard are to get him jobs given the reputation he had acquired due to his lateness and other things. >> reporter: depp's former business manager said he became verbally aggressive when confronted with his dire financial situation. >> strained in his relationship with amber and the use of alcohol and drugs made my job more challenging. >> reporter: depp sued mandel's company in 2016 accusing it of mismanaging financing, settling in 2018. >> the ability to coordinate and find times when he would meet became more difficult. >> reporter: actress ellen barkin testified about how drunk was brief during their brief sexual relationship in the '90s.
>> mr. depp through a wine bottle across the room in las vegas. >> reporter: barkin also said he was jealous and controlling. >> i had a scratch on my back once that got him very, very angry because he insisted it came from me having sex with a person that wasn't him. >> reporter: another friend expressed concern about his drug and alcohol use and saying he had seen injuries on both depp and amber heard including a bruise on heard's upper arm. >> can you tell me more specifics about that bruise, what did it look like? >> it just looked like she was grabbed. that's all. that's what it seemed to be, finger marks. >> did you ever talk to amber about that bruise? >> no. >> reporter: depp testified he never abused his ex-wife. >> i've never seen them physically abuse each other, no. >> reporter: now, one of the standout moments from amber
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that definitely put a shrink on your profit. >> super appreciate you taking time out. >> reporter: if you talk to the people, many of them immigrants. malik is from senegal. we talked to others from mexico. they're just trying to make a living. it's not easy. over my left shoulder, there's a bakery called mommy helen's bakery. look at this staple. something like sugar, dramatic increase or the increase in peaches. it used to be about $5.20 a can, now it's $8.00 and something. that's for their staple peach cobbler. tough time at this farmer's market. >> as a result people cut back, tighten their belts. you can see how this is going to have a ripple effect across the economy. paul vercammen, thank you very much. tomorrow night stanley tucci goes to italy. here is a preview. >> speaking of family, angela's
mother juliana, aunt viv and uncle wren have arrived just in time to fill the unulini. >> all born here? >> yes. >> you get that great confusion between cultures of making pasta, drinking tea. it's crazy. >> this is the filling i made with stanley earlier, mom. >> you see what it's like? >> a bit more salt. >> i'm getting the sense in this family, angela's michelin star doesn't count for all that much. >> it's a system. >> it is a lot of work. this is what people did because you weren't doing everything else. >> everyone wants quick recipes. good recipes take time. >> a little less on the filling. >> don't go too big, mr. tucci. honestly, turn your back for one minute and it all goes to pot.
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year. there's no direct threat to residents who live nearby. afghanistan's hunger crisis is no longer just desperate. it's a full-on catastrophe. the united nations says about half the population of afghanistan is on the brink of starvation. as cnn's christiane amanpour found out, the children are suffering most. >> reporter: under a scorching sun standing patiently for hours in organized lines, hundreds of newly poor afghans wait for their monthly handout, men on one side, women on the other. here the u.n.'s world food program is delivering cash assistance, the equivalent of $43 per family. the coordinator says he's seen the need explode, and right from the start the stories are dire. >> a woman came to me and said i
want to give you my son for 16,000. she was really crying. that was the worst feeling i had in my life. >> are you serious? >> this is a serious thing during distribution on the first day. >> reporter: we've heard those stories but never heard from someone who has seen it. >> i have seen it. it's too much and it hurts me a lot. >> reporter: everyone we met is hurting. according to the international rescue committee, almost half the population of afghanistan lives on less than one meal a day, and the u.n. says nearly 9 million people risk famine-like conditions. >> reporter: this woman is a widow. they should let us work because we have to become the men of the family so we can find bread of the children. none of my six kids have shoes. with 3,000 afghanis what will i be able to do in six months'
time? >> you just want work. >> i have to work, she says. >> reporter: at this wfp distribution site you do see women working and women, mostly with their faces uncovered. outside taliban slogans plastered over the walls tout victory over the americans and claim to be of the people for the people. but while security has improved since they took over, the country is facing economic collapse, and that shows up all over the tiny bodies we see at the children's hospital. it's the biggest in afghanistan. now heaving under the extra weight. this doctor tells us that 20 to 30% of the babies in this neonatal ward are malnourished. suddenly he rushes to the side of one who stopped breathing. for five minutes we watched him
pump his heart until he comes back to life, but for how long. even in the womb, the decks are stacked against them. >> from one side, the mothers are not getting well nutrition. >> so it's a triple whammy, the mothers aren't nourished enough, the economy is bad, they have too many children and they're over working themselves. >> all those factors together make the situation to give premature babies. >> reporter: because they're under sanctions, the taliban is struggling to pay salarys. so the international salary of the red cross pays all the doctors at this hospital and 32 others across the country. that's about 10,000 health workers in all. look at this child, 2 1/2 years old. >> reporter: his name is mohammed. he's malnourished. >> how much food is she able to give her child at home?
why does he look like this? >> reporter: his mother says she's had nothing but breast milk to feed him, but can't afford enough to eat to keep producing even that. it's the same for shazia, her 7-month-old baby has severe pneumonia. at least she gets fed here at the hospital so she can breast-feed her daughter. back home we don't have this kind of food, she says. if we have food for lunch, we don't have anything for dinner. the electricity has gone out. it happens all the time. we watch a doctor carry on by the light of a mobile phone until the electricity comes back. we end this day in the tiniest dwellings amongst the poorest of kabul's poor. this couple has six children. he tells us their 10-month-old baby is malnourished. i always worry and stress about
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