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would anticipate both injury of the fingernail and other parts of the finger. >> reporter: also testifying for heard, dr. david spiegel, a psychiatrist who is an expert in intimate partner violence. neither doctor has evaluated depp, but they did review testimony and medical records, spiegel concluded -- >> mr. depp has behaviors that are consistent with someone who has a substance abuse disorder and physical behavior, someone who say perpetrator of intimate partner violence. >> reporter: the jury is expected to begin deliberating on friday. "new day" continues right now. i'm brianna keilar with john berman on this "new day." polls opening across the country as voters cast their ballots in several high stakes primaries. cnn with special live coverage. and georgia's republican candidate for governor making an 11th hour racist attack against the democratic nominee.
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president biden wrapping up his trip to asia this morning, with concerns that china might be turning closer to russia. and why the biden administration is considering sending special forces to kyiv. good morning to viewers here in the u.s. and around the world. it is tuesday, may 24th. and a proxy war is playing out here on primary day and the future of the republican party is at stake. voters head to the polls in five states today, but georgia is really in the spotlight. the gop race for governor pitting former president trump against his vice president mike pence, who stumped for incumbent governor brian kemp at an election eve rally. trump is supporting his primary opponent, david perdue. kemp has been a top trump target. >> trump issued a statement that may be unprecedented when it comes to former running mates. mike pence was set to lose the
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governor's race in 2016 before he was plucked up and his political career was salvage. pence is parachuting into races hoping someone is paying attention. cnn reporters tracking the major primary contests. >> reporter: i'm kristen holmes in atlanta, georgia, where it has become a proxy war between david perdue and mike pence who is supporting incumbent governor brian kemp. the recent polls show perdue trailing to kemp and this will be a reckoning day for trump. perdue relied on the 2020 election lies as the cornerstone of his campaign. if he loses, it will not be a total watch for former president donald trump. herschel walker is expected to take that candidacy. >> reporter: i'm dianne gallagher in huntsville, alabama, all eyes are on the republican primary for the u.s. senate race and whether or not
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mo brooks can successfully bring his campaign back from the dead two months after former president trump rescinded his endorsement of the congressman. brooks' campaign has been surging in recent weeks, up against poll leader katie brit and u.s. army pilot mike durant. with more on this very important primary day, i want to bring in cnn anchor and chief national affairs analyst kasie hunt and we're also joined by cnn political analyst and white house correspondent and washington bureau chief for the grio appleril ryan. stacey abrams, the presumptive democratic nominee in the race in georgia, was saying that georgia is not the best place to live, for a number of factors including maternal mortality, the maternal mortality rate and other measures. perdue responded with this comment. >> hey, she ain't from here.
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let her go back where she came from, she doesn't like it here. the only thing she wants is to be president of the united states. she doesn't care about the people of georgia. that's clear. when she told black farmers you don't need to be on the farm, and she told black workers and hospitality and all this, you don't need to be -- she is demeaning her own race when it comes to that. i am really over this. she should never be considered for material for a governor of any state, much less our state where she hates to live. >> he's telling her to go back where you came from. what do you think about this, april? >> it makes me wonder does he know something about her 23 and me test if she took one or is he talking about madison, wisconsin. it is atrocious on so many levels and at the end of the day, on the face of it, you know, if you're a georgian, you hear her say that, you say wait a minute, but let's dig in the details. she's absolutely right about the number one ranking for the maternal death rate. and she's also right about
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issues of a living wage when she talks about issues of black farmers, as well as issues of hospitality. when you think of hospitality, can you make a living wage? no for the most part. he's talking about that being something that is insulting to black america, no, she's talking about getting a living wage. now being the help who is underpaid, and who is not making a living wage and then let's go to black farmers. the numbers of black farmers dwindled since the early 1900s. you can't even count, quantify the numbers right now and i heard that from shirley shirrod who is a resident who also happens to sit on the equity commission for the biden administration's agriculture department and she said there are a host of reasons why black farming has ciing has dwindled.
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they're not able to incorporate a lot of the new technologies to include genetic modification of foods, et cetera, et cetera. both of these industries have problems for a living wage for black people. let's look at the details instead of looking at the surface. >> what do you see happening here? we have to be clear what perdue said is a well worn trop used for people of color, and frequently said to them in a racist way. it is not something, you know, it is sort of something that goes off like an alarm when he says it. >> it is ignorant. >> yeah, well, so let's just underscore one point too that david perdue is on his way to losing an election, right? this is a losing strategy in addition to being all the things you have just laid out here. he is going to lose to brian kemp tonight, we expect. every poll says that's true. this after a prolonged, you know, battle between donald trump and the establishment republicans in georgia, after perdue spent this entire
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campaign focusing on something that is not true, which is this idea that joe biden did not win in georgia, because, they needed 11,000 plus votes. i think that context is important here because it is going to likely be brian kemp versus stacey abrams. >> that's right. >> i think if you are someone who is actually -- thinks you're going to win an election, you don't talk like this. it is going to energize the people that would -- would come out and vote against you in a general election. i'll be interested to see will brian kemp say anything like this? i think this is beyond the pale for a reason and also politically a loser. >> i love how you stay above board in describing this. let's call it what it is, it is a desperate attempt to reach out to the trumpers who do not believe that stacey abrams is qualified to be governor. he's reaching out to those trumpers who are into that replacement theory issue as well. so let's call it what it is. >> but it is not a winning message in georgia. >> it is not at all. it is not at all.
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>> let's talk about georgia and the other primary races we're going to see today. what will today say about this proxy war between these two factions represented in georgia over the last 24 hours by donald trump and by mike pence. >> i think it is going to be interesting. i think our challenge in covering this throughout the election season is going to be to make sure we are not necessarily dumbing it down or simplifying it so much that it is donald trump winning or is he not? i think in georgia, you have seen signs that the election denialism, the focus on 2020 just simply is not working, right? brian kemp is likely to win. he took on brad raffensperger, the last bastion of integrity, did two recounts, who told the press about the calls he was getting from the former president, donald trump, to try and find these 11,000 votes and change the results of the election. he's been primaried by a trump-supported person. everybody thought he was probably dead in the water as an
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electoral candidate, but instead he seems to be making a late breaking comeback. it seems like he may end up in a runoff with this guy, better than we thought, and may win outright. you'll see some signs here that people are over it. people are pretty miserable for a lot of reasons right now. joe biden's numbers are in the tank for a reason, inflation is tough, i don't think people really want to relitigate this and i think the results in georgia may underscore that tonight. >> and you hit a point, you talked about joe biden's -- democrats are looking to have a message that goes personally to persons, be it georgia, the five states in the primaries, all across the country, but i am most interested tonight to watch how mike pence has veered off and is standing on his own. georgia is just, i believe, the first piece to watch mike pence do what he does and going around the country, moving away from donald trump, the fraction is real, and it has happened. >> he's standing on his own.
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we'll see if he has much company. i think that is going to be the key here in the coming months kasey and april, thank you so much. as we are talking about here, it is election night in america. join cnn for live coverage tonight, beginning at 7:00 eastern. president biden wheels up from tokyo on his way back to washington at this hour. but not before using russia's invasion of ukraine to send a message to china that a similar attack on taiwan will be met with a fierce u.s. response. the president wrapped up his asia trip meeting with leaders from japan, australia and india, known as the quad. well, india has been reluctant to condemn russia's war in ukraine, president biden says he and his indian counterpart agreed to continue to discuss the brutal inuand unprovoked conflict. kaitlan collins joins us live from tokyo. what people wanted to see before the president left, would he add to his comments where he said that, yes, the united states
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would get involved militarily if china invaded taiwan. >> reporter: yeah, and, john, he added to them, but only with a few words. no lengthy explanation from the president, but he really said it all, of course, he made the groundbreaking commentes saying that, yes, he would pledge to get united states involved militarily should china ever attack taiwan. and that is a break from what you've seen other presidents do, because they have pursued what has been called strategic ambiguity, and if you're not familiar with the term, it is basically this practice where presidents warn china against using force in taiwan, but they have hesitated purposefully about what exactly the united states would do if china were to do that. if they were to invade or attack taiwan, which has become -- been a concern, more of a concern since this russian invasion of ukraine, with people watching to see is china learning from what russia's doing, and are they going to try to do something similar? and my colleague jeremy diamond pressed the president on this,
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trying to get him to go into more detail about what exactly he meant when he made those comments and this is what the president said. >> mr. president, is the policy of strategic ambiguity toward taiwan dead? >> no. >> can you explain? >> no. >> mr. president, would you -- taiwan if china invaded? >> the policy has not changed at all. i stated that when i made it. >> the president saying their policy has not changed. of course, saying that the united states would get involved militarily is further than where officials had been willing to go before when they said they would supply taiwan with arms should this invasion -- should this attack happened. they have not gone as far as to say troops would get involved as the way the president said during his press conference. we should note that russia has really been looming over the president's entire trip here in asia. his first one since taking office. and on his last day before he boarded air force one to come
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back to the united states, which is where he is now, he had these meetings with these world leaders that you were noting, john. a big one was the indian prime minister who has taken a very different stance than the australian prime minister, than the japanese prime minister, than, of course, president biden, when it comes to the russian invasion. he's been reluctant to call out russia, to call what is happening an invasion or a war. so officials inside the white house say they're trying to navigate this delicately, not calling out prime minister modi publicly, but talking with him behind the scenes, which they have described as these constructive conversations. but what we continued to see is russia not condemn -- i should say india not condemn what russia has done. they also continued to accelerate their oil imports at times, continuing with the oil imports while other countries have stopped them or made plans to stop them. so that is something that everyone has been watching. and, john, you can see it all in the readouts of these two meetings, where the white house said during president biden's meeting with the indian prime
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minister modi, he condemned russia's invasion. if you look at the indian readout, it does not mention the war in ukraine. >> kaitlan collins for us, thank you for being there and helping us understand what went on this very important asian trip. thank you. joining me now is journalist rhea ninen, as the president is now on his way home from asia, what do you think is different this morning than when he first got there? how have things changed now that he said what he said? >> he's made these sort of references three times during his administration toward taiwan, maybe not to this forceful way, but i have to say, if you look at the white house's stance over the past year on china, they have been aggressive about shoring up partnerships. i was here with you in the fall when we were talking about the military path between the uk, australia, and the u.s. sharing submarine technology and they managed to move australia from sitting on the fence on china to actually taking a
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ststand on this. they're shoring up allies, they're making it clear they're not going to sit back and watch china particularly gain traction in the ind o-pacific and that's what you've seen. >> how do you think china sees it? how do you think they perceive things differently now? >> an absolute threat and they made it very clear. when jake sullivan spoke with his counterpart over in china recently, they made it very clear that meddling in taiwan affairs is something they're not going to stand for. but when you look at the appetite, is war on the horizon on taiwan? even the president of taiwan has said she doesn't believe it. she right now needs to shore up his base, make sure that he's standing for the next few years, that's a priority of china right now. but when you look at american sentiment here in the u.s., over 75% of americans don't trust china. don't look at them positively. that's a recent pew study that
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has come out. on top of that, you look at the u.s. congress, 50 senators, bipartisan, signed an agreement asking the white house and this new indo-pacific economic framework to include taiwan in this. and then there is subtle little things that policy watchers who watch this taiwan issue very closely saw. on the state department website, there is a taiwan fact sheet, may not be so significant troeft to the rest of us, they moved to stopping independence and saying this is a democracy and technology powerhouse. >> what is interesting to me in this trip, while it was a trip to asia to meet with asian leaders, how ukraine hung over everything. it has changed diplomacy in this modern world. i think there will be pre-ukraine and post-ukraine and now the russian foreign minister has put out a statement saying that given europe's departure from economic relationships with russia, he says that russia, he says, our economic ties with china will grow even further. >> that's a partnership and you
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notice india went out of their way to make sure that russia was not mentioned. there are major military backer. they don't want to isolate russia as well. you spent time there in ukraine recently, john. you know what it is like on the ground there. people are watching to see what the situation in ukraine, how the u.s. responds to that, which has been very aggressively and forcefully. i don't think that situation dove tails with what happens in taiwan. it is very different militarily. you look on the ground and you've seen the pentagon come out over the past week and actually say we do have classified plans, we're not ready to telegraph to you, we're not going to telegraph to you if this were to happen, we have a plan of action in place. but you better believe it, people are watching that situation in ukraine to see how it expands. >> i will say, a russia with closer ties to china and india, the world's two most populous nations, it is not an isolated country if you're getting stronger ties to those nations. great to see you. thank you so much. >> you bet. could u.s. special operation
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kyiv. u.s. officials tell cnn the plans are at a very preliminary stage and a proposal has not been presented to the president at this point for a decision. joining me now is retired u.s. army major mike lyons. we're talking about the ukrainian capital kyiv, where the u.s. embassy is beginning to operate once again. and the idea that, look, every embassy has protection. whether it be diplomatic protection, u.s. marines, but special forces here what is the point of the special forces be there and what will the footprint be? >> these are not going to be guys that will be outside the wire necessarily, protecting that embassy or so. what they'll likely bring is jsoc forces that bring a higher level of skill set to the battlefield and they'll work likely with the ukraine government, normally security is responsible for the host nation. i think they want to offload that, they don't want the ukraine military to worry about it. you bring jsoc and special operators in, they'll do more than protect the environment. they'll be looking for asymmetrical fights that could possibly take place,
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intelligence comes into them, and they'll be more of a strategic overview of how the embassy will be protected. >> what would the russians make of this? is this something they would take? >> i'm surprised we announced we're doing this, but the question is, you can't have guys outside the wire, they could get caught downrange training. that's not something they want to do. it is about skill set. marines will focus on the internal side of the embassy and not worry about the outside, jsoc will take care of that. >> we're hearing from u.s. military officials about the u.s. troop presence in europe overall. that they're expecting to maintain a level above 100,000 troops there. what is the significance of that number? >> you got to look at history. go back, height of the cold war, we have about 350,000 troops in europe at the height of the cold war. soviet union falls, it all falls away. we go from -- we go from about 350,000 by 2005 at 100,000,
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obama brings it down another 20,000, we're at 80,000 troops. right now the troops are primarily in three places. in the uk, germany, italy, and now poland. poland has 10,000 troops in it. what i think the message is this we're going to forward base troops here and the baltics, in poland and also in romania. you're going to see u.s. forward troops. we had troops stationed in europe last time, they were well forward. we had the majority of the troops in western germany in case something happened. the same thing matters here. if we put ground troops in europe, they have got to be well forward. similar we have in south korea for them to -- >> putting them on the front lines of the russian block like they used to be on the front lines of the soviet bloc. i want to get your take on what is happening in the ground now in eastern ukraine. we're hearing the russians are making gains, slow gains around severodonetsk, this town in the far east. what kind of strategic value does this hold? >> so they need to close off this pocket so you can see it just on the map here. by doing that, they'll force
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ukraine military out. they still want to eventually get to kramatorsk, the area where all roads meet here. but they're making gains, inches at a time. and this is where the race is on to get that artillery to that location because the artillery could slow that down. but unfortunately the russians are showing they're willing to put material, willing to put men into the fight and they're gaining there very slowly. >> u.s. howitzers arriving on the scene. the question is soon enough and in numbers enough to make a difference. thank you very much. governor larry hogan of maryland says the republicans can, quote, course correct to a pre-trump republican state. could today's primary in georgia be a first step? governor hogan joins us ahead. plus, new this morning, what the justice department is now telling law enforcement to do in the wake of george floyd's death.
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key senate and governor positions at stake here and some experts are watching republican voters to see what direction they want their party to go after trump. joining us now is republican governor larry hogan of maryland. sir, thank you for being with us this morning. i know you, of course, in georgia, endorsed governor kemp and i wonder are you thinking that the outcome of today's races could be a turning point for your party? >> well, i really hope that it is. and i'm pretty kft that governor kemp is going to have a resounding victory today and likely avoid any runoff. and i think that will send a real statement. it won't be the first time. we have wouln the govern's race in nebraska and idaho and now georgia. it will be four in a row i think that president trump was attacking some of those republicans and they all are doing pretty well in their primaries. >> do you think trump will look at the outcome and factor that into his decision about what to do with his future?
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>> well, i can't really speak for what -- how he makes his decisions, but i think, you know, his influence while still very large in the republican party, i think it is diminished and will continue to diminish as he makes bad decisions about attacking incumbent governors and, you know, endorsing primary opponents who are not winning. i think it will become more clear in november and so i can't tell you how he's going to make his decision over the next couple of years, but it certainly is going to show he's not as strong as maybe some people thought he was. >> defense secretary, former defense secretary mark esper said that trump is a threat to democracy, he said that trump would be emboldened in a second term, that he would be less restricted by a cabinet in a second term, and i know you have some doubts as to whether trump would run again, whether he should. of course, it is possible, though. so what do you think a second trump term would look like? >> well, first of all, i don't think there is going to be a
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second trump term and so i don't want to speculate on what it might look like. i said for a long time i don't think he is going to run. even if he does run, i don't think it is any guarantee he's going to win. i have been pushing to take the republican party in a completely different direction and we got a long time between now and the '24 elections and we ought to get through the 2022 elections first before we decide what the future looks like. >> doug mastriano, for example, is the republican nominee for pennsylvania governor as you look ahead in the election. he's someone who is an adherent to the big lie, went to the stop the steal rally that preceded the attack on the capitol. are you worried if people, if candidates like doug mastriano win, that this could actually affect the outcome of the future presidential election? >> well, there is no question about that. i mean, electing kind of candidates that are outside of the mainstream that are conspiracy theorists is going to have an impact both in what happens this november and what
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might happen in 2024. luckily in most of the states and most of the races that's not happening, but certainly that's going to be an issue that the republican party is going to have to contend with. >> you, sir, are the co-chair of an organization that is called no labels. and this is an organization that is dedicated to promoting collaboration across the political spectrum. last week as you're well aware, no labels tweeted out a video with text that called the house january 6th committee a, quote, partisan exercise. do you agree with that? >> well, i didn't approve of that and didn't know that was going out. i thought that was a mistake on the part of the staff at no labels and i think they have recognized that. but, look, i want to make sure it is not going to be just a partisan exercise. i have had concerns about that. but i think that tweet was probably unfortunate. >> so how did it happen? >> i have no idea. some staffer at no label sent out a tweet and didn't have
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approval of anyone, i don't think. >> is there a discussion about that? i only ask because if you're talking about an organization that you're co-chair of, that is dedicated to collaboration across the political spectrum, there are some republicans obviously it is not half republican, for instance, on that committee, but for certain reasons, i mean, can you expand on that? >> well, our organization, you know, i'm the honorary co-chair with joe lieberman. neither one of us knew anything about the tweet and neither one of us agrees with the tweet. our organization is working together. that's one of the biggest problems we have in america is the divisiveness in our toxic politics and the dysfunction in washington. and, you know, that's what we're working to try to do something about, which is why we were so instrumental in getting the bipartisan infrastructure bill done and we're here to try to talk about how we bring people together rather than continue the divisiveness. >> you are talking to us from
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davos, connecting international business to maryland. as you're looking at the economic forecast, are you seeing a recession coming? >> well, i think everybody is concerned about a potential recession coming. that's been part of the dialogue here with people from around the world. but certainly it is something that we're very concerned about, there is inflationary pressures, and supply chain issues and, you know, it is -- it is a scary time right now, and as i think that's one of the major topics of discussion here with not just folks in america, but around the world. >> what are business leaders there saying to you? >> the business leaders here, i'll tell you a whole lot of the focus here has been on the situation in ukraine and one of the positives i think out of this conference is both all of the political and economic business leaders from around the world seem to be united. so as terrible as this situation is, with vladimir putin's aggression in russia, most of the world focused to standing up to that and uniting in opposition.
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we heard from the secretary-general of nato today and the president of the eu and many different leaders, we talked with the mayor of kyiv who was here, and i can tell you there seems to be one thing that it has done is it brought america and the world together in opposition to putin's aggression. >> as we understand, it is a very different scene, maybe you can tell us a little bit about that. there are no russian financial leaders, there are no officials there as you would be used to seeing. >> no, actually, russia was banned from the conference for the first time and kicked out. so there are no russian officials here. and the entire world has pretty much united against them. there is a place that typically here they have a russia house where they're promoting things, it is now called russia war crimes house. and it is focused on support for ukraine. so absolutely it is a different situation than we normally see here. >> i know you're focused on wrapping up business in maryland, but i want to talk to you about your personal future.
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and you are aware that your own state has a lovely state fair, right, that you don't have to go all the way to iowa for one, right? if you want to find a wonderful state fair. >> well, you know what, i love the state fair in maryland, i plan to be there as well. but, you know, the iowa state fair is special. they have pork chop on a stick and lots of great fried foods, but we have invited to join some folks out there and we're looking forward to that one as well. i'm not going to skip the maryland fair, you can count on that. >> you're going to hit both. what is your calculus right now on a potential run in 2024? >> i said over and over again, i want to focus on finishing out my term. i finished the people of maryland i would do this job until the end and i have this stage until next january. after that, mrthere is still plenty of time to think about what the future might look like. >> if trump ran, would you be more likely to run? >> i think i'll make my own decision independent of that. but certainly wouldn't scare me
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off from running. i think a lot of people would not be running if trump would join the race. that wouldn't impact my decision at all. >> governor larry hogan, thank you for being with us. we appreciate the interview, sir. >> thank you. still ahead, we're going to take you live to mexico where migrants are waiting for title 42 to expire. a covid restriction. they're waiting for that to expire so they can make their journey to the u.s. border. and our special coverage of election day continues. the key races to watch ahead.
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this morning, desperate migrants are anxiously waiting in mexico. many have been in rundown shelters for months, amid the legal uncertainty over title 42. cnn's matt rivers live over the border in mexico, with the latest on this. matt, tell us what you're seeing there. >> reporter: we're here in
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juarez, just across the border from el paso, texas, what you see is what you see all across the border, hundreds if not thousands of migrants who are simply waiting for the chance to try and apply legally for asylum in the united states. including one man who we met yesterday at a shelter here who said he's going to try to apply in the next couple of weeks with the hope they make some kind of exception for him at the border. here is a little bit about what he had to say. are you nervous that the authorities are not going to allow you to enter the country? >> si. >> translator: yes, very much so, more than -- is not knowing how long we have to be here. especially for the baby. he's a year and a half old. yes, it is difficult. >> reporter: thank you for your time. so his story there, very similar to other stories that we have heard in this shelter. this shelter is called the good shepherd heshelter and it is completely full at the moment.
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the majority of the migrants are haitian, but as you heard from that interview, he's venezuelan, there is people from honduras here, the shelter is now completely full. you can see just how completely full this dormitory is. it is just bunkbed next to bunkbed next to bunkbed. there are dozens of people that are living in this facility. most of whom are spread out throughout the facility. they asked us to respect people's privacy here. that's why you see empty beds there are people sharing bunkbeds here. we spoke to the director of the facility earlier today who told us that things can't continue like this. he's building another facility across the street, he says can house more than double of what he can hold right now and yet when that is finished in two months time, he already knows that there won't be enough people, enough room to handle all of the people that he says are still going to be in this area. now, i also asked that director if he thought that the fact that title 42 has been extended will stem the flow of migrants that
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are arriving to the border every day and the numbers of hundreds if not thousands of people arriving at the border. he said absolutely not. he hasn't heard that from anyone arriving. word of mouth is the key driver, bringing migrants from other places here and you have to consider, john and brianna, not only do you have people arriving here from other countries, you have people trying to go to the united states being turned away. two waves of migrants arriving here in these overrun border towns on a daily basis. >> all the other countries of people you're meeting there from haiti, venezuela, honduras, matt rivers thank you so much for giving us that look. appreciate it. voters in five states heading to the polls this morning. john king joins us next with the key races to watch. and perhaps john will weigh in on this video, the guy who didn't have to move an inch or his beer to catch a foul ball. hybrid work is >> oh, the deliciousness that is game-used beer!
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voters in five states are going to the polls today with plenty of attention focused on georgia, which is where the incumbent, republican governor, has former vice president mike pence rooting for him to win. here on what to watch for tonight is cnn chief national correspondent and anchor of "inside politics" john king. what are you watching and what is kind of shaping up to be a proxy war in georgia. >> it is. the thing that is most fascinating to me on the day that people vote, let's listen to the voters, what are republican voters telling us in this case, because there are mainly big republican contests what are they telling us about what they want. in georgia, i think they're telling donald trump this is still your party but it is not a cult. you cannot tell us to vote for david perdue if we republican
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voters of georgia think our republican governor has done a good joh good job. georgia democrats are ready to throw things at me because things are polarized. but if you're a republican and you look at brian kemp, you think, okay, this guy is a pretty good governor, donald trump, thank you, but no thank you, i think, but let's let them vote and see. one dynamic on a primary day, the polls show perdue way behind. ev the 2020 election is his biggest grievance. brian kemp did not help him cheat. brad raffensperger the secretary of state did not help him cheat. trump is still mad about that. the voters of georgia appear to be ready to say, sorry, but we'll see. >> if it is festivus, i'm curious to see what the feats of strength will be. let's continue this team ho the. who are you looking tonight to come out strong? >> if kemp is renominated in georgia, in a big way, if brad
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raffensperger by any chance can avoid a runoff, the secretary of state race many people think will go to a runoff. how strong do the candidates that trump is against, trump gets involved in some races, picks a candidate, his heart may not be in it, these ones he's in. what do the voters tell us about that. the bigger question, trump said yesterday that he thinks kemp can't win because people won't vote for him. early voting is setting records in georgia, donald trump attacked early voting for years. another signal that the voters are saying, sir, you may lead our party but we won't follow everything you say. what do the voters tell us here? how weak is trump in georgia is a good question to look at. depends whether you're looking at this november or beyond. georgia is one of the five or six states that will help determine our national politics for the next ten years including the 2024 presidential election. that will be studied more than the others but there are other
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interesting things on the ballot tonight. >> there is also this gop runoff in the texas attorney general race, right. you have george p. bush, jeb bush's son, who is trying to unseat ken paxton. i wonder what you're looking for there as he's trying to continue the bush dynasty. >> a, can you tell the bush name in today's republican politics. greg abbott was there before trump. sure, trump has some influence on it. what -- grassroot republican politics in texas are moving more to the right. can a bush succeed? george p. moved there. the most fascinating thing for me, however this goes tonight, what is thanksgiving dinner like in the bush family. donald trump savaged jeb bush, his son, george p. running in texas has given him a big hug. it would be interesting for people who studied these things, we had the kennedys, you know,
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we haven't -- the bushes on the republican side, do we have a cycle where there is no bush in office, no bush on the ballot, and what does that mean? one thing it means is the -- both parties are going through transformational changes now. and sometimes they take 10 or 15 years to go through them. the republican party is in the middle of one, not started by trump, but put on steroids by trump and we're watching it play out. can a bush -- what does a bush have to do to fit into that party? one of the tests. >> john, we need your magic wall-like analysis of something that happened at a baseball game last night. i believe this was in cincinnati. a foul ball -- >> money, and the whole thing went on the video board and egged on by the crowd. he chugged it! >> our banner covering it up there, catching a foul ball in your beer cup, and then drinking from said beer cup, john how
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woul would you break that down? >> think of the wine notes, it has a leathery bouquet as the hops go down. if you're a reds fan, i don't blame you for having a beer, you had a tough start to the season, you might want two, and 16 bucks a pop, you drink it. >> that's right. it is so expensive. it is so expensive. have you ever caught a foul ball at a game, john? >> a foul ball, no. i catch a david ortiz home run once on the green monster. off the chest, picked it up, 300 home runs as a member of the boston red sox. it is on the youtube thing. >> i think that counts. >> not graceful, but i got it. >> worth it. worth every cent. john, thank you very much. it is election day and will soon be election night in america. join cnn for our live coverage, it all begins at 7:00 eastern.
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good morning. i'm erica hill. >> i'm jim sciutto. right now election day voters in five states are headed to the polls. we're following several high profile primary races in georgia. alabama, and beyond. the peach state taking center stage once again, where former president trump's lies about the 2020 election are playing a key role. incumbent governor brian kemp facing a major battle against former senator david perdue who touted trump's endorsement as well as his false 2020 fraud claims throughout his campaign there. >> last night, former vice president mike pence pitting himself against his former boss and running mate, stumping for brian kemp at an election eve rally, prompting this response from donal


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