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hello, everyone, i'm kate bolduan. what we're watching at this hour, decision day. georg georgia's primary could say a lot about former president trump's influence on the republican party. voters head to the polls right now. baby formula manufacturers will be in the hot seat facing questions from congress for the first time since the major shortage set in. the congresswoman in our leading hearing is our guest. monkeypox.
anyone can get this disease, but one community may be more at risk right now. thank you so much for joining us. it is election day in america. voters are heading to the polls in five states today. much of the attention right now is on georgia. the key battleground state in 2020, sure to be important in 2024, and right now it is a test of donald trump's sway with american voters. the represent can primary for governor is its current governor, brian kemp, versus former senator david perdue. it's also basically turning into a mike pence versus donald trump matchup as well. and in the final minutes, there is a question today of what is david perdue trying to do, really, on camera making racist remarks about the democratic candidate in this race, stacey abrams. let's get to it, let's start there. kristen holmes is live in atlanta for us.
kristen, early voter turnout has been huge and today is the day. >> reporter: this is huge. it has become a proxy war between the maga election denying the republican party and the republican establishment including former vice president mike pence. this is really a day of reckoning for former president trump. one, he has poured more than $2.5 million into this race, more than he has put into any primary this cycle, and also because of the big lie and that test to the big lie. perdue has made this a cornerstone of his campaign, and today we see whether or not republican voters are ready to move past that. now, i do want to touch on what you mentioned yesterday that happened during the campaign, one of the only things perdue said wasn't related to the 2020 election and election fraud, and that was these racist remarks when he was talking about stacey abrams. he essentially skipped over kemp altogether and started talking
about abrams who will be the democratic candidate for governor in the fall. he said that abrams, who is black, was demeaning her own race and that she should go back to where she came from. one thing to note here, kate, particularly with that last part is she is from georgia. she has lived here since she was in high school, she was just born elsewhere in the united states, so clearly just blatantly false. but toi want to play what abram responded when she heard those remarks. >> the challenge that i have is the answer for republicans and our former governor is to fight me instead of fighting georgia. i ask that you pay less attention to me and more to the rhetoric and the results. i'm here to provide results for the state of georgia. >> reporter: clearly not directly addressing the racial element of that speech. perdue seems to have been
referencing remarks that abrams made back in 2018 when she said people shouldn't have to be in hospitality or agriculture to make a living in georgia, but certainly a controversial way to end a very controversial campaign, kate. >> exactly. good to see you, kristen. thank you so much. let's turn now to alabama where the focus is the senate race and the republican primary where donald trump gave and then rescinded his endorsement. cnn's dianne gallagher is live for us in huntsville, alabama this hour. dianne, what's happening there? >> kate, actually mo brooks just walked into his polling place right across from me here to cast his ballot. losing that trump endorsement may have inadvertently helped mo brooks revive his campaign from what many thought was dead, and that's because these two opponents, former aide to retiring katy britt and mike
durant have spent the last two months beating each other up. you can barely turn the tv on here without watching them really attack one another. it seems that has created a lane for mo brooks' campaign. in his words he called it to become a modern day lazarus. it still remains to see if that will happen, but he had ted cruz here campaigning for him, although brooks has not completely distanced himself from trump even though he has attacked brooks the last couple months. he didn't say whether or not getting that nomination today would mean more because he didn't have trump's endorsement. >> i believe that every endorsement matters, and certainly president trump's endorsement is a bonus. but at the same time, the people of alabama, they're conservative, particularly in a republican primary, and they're looking at the difference in the records. i have one, the other candidates
do not. >> reporter: so it's unlikely, because this is such a fractured primary, we'll have a winner tonight. alabama requires somebody to win a primary. they have to get 50% of the vote. if they don't, it goes to a runoff next month. kate, that's likely what we may see in the governor's race as well. governor kay ivey, it's sort of been this run to the right. she has eight people running. it's a lot of people there. it is tightened up in the weeks leading up to today, so she may be able to fend off those challengers, but it may be very tight tonight, kate. >> a lot going on. good to see you, dianne. dianne gallagher on the ground in alabama for us. joining us, co-anchor of "state of the union," dana bash. good to see you, dana. >> you, too. happy primary day. >> thank you. happy primary day. people are voting on decision day, we love it. voters are voting. what are you looking for today?
>> what i'm going to be looking for is whether or not this strategy, which is way beyond georgia, but georgia is kind of the climax of this strategy, among the incumbent republicans led by the republican governors association and people associated with that, to keep incumbents in place and focus on the more traditional conservative values, issues that they believe the voters really care about in order to fend off the trump endorsement tour. and they were successful in that. if you look back at nebraska, the incumbent governor who is actually term limited, he was successful in fending off the trump-endorsed candidate, was successful last week in idaho, and the real question is whether or not that is going to be true in georgia today. the polls show that that is the case, that the incumbent governor, brian kemp, is going to do very well against the man that donald trump wants, david
perdue, the former senator, but we'll see what happens. but the fascinating aspect of this to me, kate, is the fact that this isn't just happening by accident, it's not just happenstance, that there is a very concerted effort by republican governors across the country to fight back against trump and trump's attempts to tie the republican party to 2020. they want to make it about the future. >> our good friend david challen pointed out that president trump seems more committed to this race than any other so far in the primary season. to your point, if his preferred candidate in this governors race loses, what does that say about the concerted effort you're talking about here? >> that is such a good point. there is no race that matters more within the republican field
and the republican primaries to donald trump than this one. this is the ultimate when you look at his grievances and his lies about 2020. he believes that he is not president largely because of what happened in georgia and because brian kemp, the incumbent republican, did not heed his calls. others as well did not heed his calls to find votes out of the thin air to make him the winner there. and that is the reason -- it's not just as if david perdue woke up one day and said, i'm going to run for governor. donald trump recruited him, begged him to do this. if he's not successful, you know, you're already seeing some statements from the former president. well, it's hard to beat an incumbent. well, you know, at least he's going to get some votes. you're already seeing him lay the groundwork for a loss, his loss. david perdue's loss will be donald trump's loss. but to your point, it will be
very telling about where this whole divide goes in the future. >> so an interesting part about this is it is exactly what you're laying out, but in addition to that it's kind of a proxy battle between trump and mike pence in georgia. mike short has been advising pen kemp's campaign, he was asking if this represents a full break from donald trump. here's what mark short said. >> i think mike pence is here not for any sort of broader message, he's here because he supports brian kemp. i think mike pence is here because brian kemp has been a friend, brian kemp as hay great record. he's plowed to be here and brian kemp is on his way to win again for four more years. >> do you think that's all pence's endorsement here means? >> no. it's some of it. it's part of it. if mike pence didn't like brian
kemp, if he didn't have a former relationship with him as governor himself, mike pence was governor of indiana. if he didn't believe in his issues, he wouldn't be there. but he also wouldn't be there if donald trump hadn't shoved him out of trump world on january 6, 2021 because the vice president refused to do, again, what trump wanted him to do which is not certify the election results of 2020 which mike pence announced as he was walking into the chamber that he did not feel that he had the power to do, which most legal scholars agree with. >> absolutely. and today being the most exciting day of covering any campaign, the day that voters have their say. good to see you, dana. thank you. >> you, too. thank you. >> dana will be part of cnn's special coverage of election night in america that begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern tonight. coming up for us, president biden is wrapping up his big
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president biden on his way back to the united states from his multi-day trip to asia. on the way the president is having to explaining his own comments that the u.s. would defend taiwan militarily if china were to invade. biden now saying he has offered no change in policy by saying that. kaitlan collins is live for us at this hour in tokyo. it's good to see you, kaitlan. where do things stand with this now?
>> reporter: the president seems to be trying to temper his comments from yesterday where he did come out and seemed to suggest a change in u.s. policy by going where presidents typically don't go when it comes to this idea of strategic ambiguity. if you're not familiar with the term, it basically means that presidents are warning china against using force in taiwan, but they wouldn't lay out exactly what the united states would do should china actually do that. that changed during that press conference when the president said, yes, he would get the u.s. military involved if that situation were to arise. but he said he doesn't believe that would actually happen, that china is planning to attack taiwan. today when he was asked about those comments and whether this idea of strategic ambiguity is over, this is what the president said. >> mr. president, is strategic ambiguity toward taiwan dead? >> no. >> could you explain? >> no. >> mr. president, would you send troops to taiwan if china
invaded? >> the policy has not changed at all. i said that when i made my statement yesterday. >> reporter: so you have heard from officials repeatedly. they say the policy has not changed here, but kate, it is a change for the president to say, yes, he would get the u.s. military involved because that goes a step further than what they said previously which is should that attack happen on taiwan, the united states would provide them with defensive weapons. all of these questions, of course, still following the president back to washington. we should note this is about the third time the president has made comments like this when it comes to taiwan, so it's pretty clear where he stands and how he views this. it has taken on a new urgency since the invasion of ukraine. now to russia's war of ukraine, the head of the european commission saying she expects a deal on a russian oil embargo in a matter of weeks. but poland's prime minister telling cnn a ban is, quote,
unquote, a contentious point. clair sebastian is with us now. what does it mean about this oil embargo? >> we don't exactly know. poland is right, it is a contentious issue. we do know that germany is looking to get this done, to show unity in this time of aggression. they are to approve all oil product by the end of this year. the eu commission president said it would happen within weeks. the german vice chancellor said to cnn and davos that he believes it could be days, but we still have serious opposition from hungary saying it really needs guarantees for its own energy security before it commits to any sanctions. it relies on russia for about
60% of its oil imports. the prime minister hinted that there might be funds coming from the eu budget to sort of pay for infrastructure in countries like hungary to compensate them in some way, but now i think attention turns to eu leaders and a meeting happening at the end of this month. there is focus on that to see if they can get something done then. >> moving fast but not so much at the same time. it's good to see you, clare, thank you. let's turn now to the critical situation on the mexican border. the rule known as title 42, that that court ruling will not slow border crossings. migrants remain determined to come to america no matter what. cnn's matt rivers is live on the mexican side of the border with more on this. matt, it's good to see you. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: kate, well, yesterday we got a chance to
visit a shelter here which is just across the border to my left from el paso, texas. what we saw at that shelter was basically a microcosm of what's happening across the border from texas to california. this particular shelter is completely full. it has 80 people. if one person leaves, another person enters. they cannot accept any more people. there are bunk beds next to bunk beds, people are sharing bunk beds at this point and that is happening across the city. the interesting thing there is the majority of people in that shelter are not from the northern triangle. they're not from el salvador, honduras or even here in mexico which is traditionally where a lot of migrants have come from. the vast majority of people in that shelter were haitian, and that follows trends bwe're seeig here at the border. those in the month of april were outside the four countries i just listed. and the other thing is the numbers keep going up. we have seen a steady increase
across the border and here of people continuing to arrive. i asked the director of that shelter is the fact that title 42 not expiring dissuading anyone from coming? he said no. in fact, he is planning on more people arriving. he's building a new structure at his facility and he said even when that's done in a few months, he still won't have enough space to house all the migrants he's expecting. kate? >> matt, thank you for that update. still coming up for us, a second shipment of baby formula from overseas will soon be on its way to the united states. this is just as lawmakers are preparing to drill the fda and manufacturers of this baby formula over this crisis. i'i'll talk to the chairirwomant will be leading that heariring, next. up a notch with smoky- baja chipotle sauce?e? yep, they're constantly r refreshing. y'all get our own commercial! subway keeps refreshing and-
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about this shipment? >> reporter: kate, what we're learning is this is another hypoallergenic formula, and that's because many parents in the toughest situation have children with allergies or other medical conditions, not able to find that specific kind of formula that they need. trucks arrived here yesterday. today still more to arrive full of this formula. together, along with the shipment that happened on sunday, it's 1.5 million 8-ounce bottles, the equivalent of that for american babies. now, the big question the parents have is, okay, is it going to start being easier to find form ula on store shelves? the answer is probably not any time really soon. much of the shipments, these two shipments, if not all of it, is going to hospitals and pharmacies and doctors' offices. some of it may go onto store shelves, we're not sure yet, but in either case it needs to be inspected first because it's an import from a foreign country, so that's going to take some time. plus, 1.5 million bottles is a
lot, but think about it, there are millions of babies across the united states that drink formula, so this is not going to be nearly enough. other steps being taken by the biden administration, other steps that are being taken by other companies to ratchet up their manufacturing, hopefully all of that together will help, but still, parents shouldn't expect to see a really significant difference for many weeks. kate? >> and how many weeks continues to be a key question. elizabeth, thanks for that. joining me right now is congresswoman diana degette. she is holding the hearing of baby manufacturers all scheduled to testify. congresswoman, thank you for being here. i think it's important that the makers of these formulas are going to face some real questions. what information do you want most from them? >> well, i'd like to know, number one, what they intend to do to safely get the infant
formula supply replenished in the u.s. people can't just be driving around and around looking for formula for the next two months. and i know that some of the other manufacturers besides abbott have started ramping up. we need to get that happening, and abbott also needs to get some of its other facilities producing formula. but also, this particular facility in michigan has been a problematic facility for over a decade. i want to know where abbott let these problems languish knowing that it was producing 45% of this nation's formula. >> well, this also gets to a key question because the fda has testified and is also going to be at this hearing as well. from what you've seen so far, do you think the fda moved too slowly to respond and see this crisis coming? >> well, you know, the fda is the food and drug administration, but yet they put a lot less effort and money into the food part of that, and the
first complaints in this case were made way back in september, but yet the consent decree wasn't entered into until just last week. you have to wonder, especially when you're talking about something so credital like baby for formula, why did it take so long? why did it take from september to now end of may to get this recognized and taken care of? that's one of the issues we'll be exploring as well at the hearing. >> it does deserve exploring, because i had the hhs secretary on, and he said with the information he has before him now, he thinks the fda moved appropriately, so i think that is a key question. you talked about two months. you just said people can't be driving around for two more months looking for formula. the administration so far has not provided an answer on what the timeline is that they are working with for things to be back to normal. the hhs secretary, as i mentioned, he says when he was on my show, he says that the
timeline is on abbott. do you expect that these manufacturers will provide you with a clear timeline, especially abbott, tomorrow when this will be over? >> when the consent decree was negotiated, what abbott said was it would take two weeks to do the cleaning of the facility, which i support that. but then they said it would take six more weeks to ramp up the supply, and that's where i come up with the two months, which is unacceptable. so what's going to have to happen is a couple of things. it's an all hands on deck situation. number one, abbott's other facilities are going to have to start producing this formula. number two, other companies are going to have to step up, and number three, we're going to have to continue to try to get safe supplies from other companies in europe, like we're doing right now. so it really is going to be all hands on deck, because for these little infants, for all of the little infants who rely on
formula, there is just to substitute. you can't go down to your kitchen and whip something up. it's not safe for them. so we're going to have to really treat this like the emergency it is, and we just can't rely on the manufacturers to say, well, it's going to take a couple months and then maybe we'll get it back. we need product for these families right now. >> and people need answers, because as you said, this is an all hands on deck. this is all hands on deck in terms of the manufacturers, in terms of the administration, and in terms of what congress can do. the transportation secretary, pete buttigieg, he calls this industry a series of monopolies, and he has said that it is something he thinks the administration should take a look at. but what about congress? should abbott's dominance in this market be investigated? >> absolutely, and that's another question we're going to look at, because one of the reasons why abbott has a 45% share of the market is because they get a preferential contract
under the wik program, and that's for low-income women and families. we have to look at is that really a good way to proceed in a crisis and should we be doing other things. another thing to look at in congress is are we giving enough authorities and enough money to the fda to have a robust food safety inspection program? this is something my subcommittee has worked on for years because we feel like food safety has been neglected at the fda. not just now but for many, many years. >> i will say this is where oversight -- this is where congress' job becomes most important, oversight, especially when a crisis that should be avoidable, when a crisis like this unfolds. very much looking forward to what answers -- the tough questions that are asked and what answers these manufacturers can provide tomorrow. congresswoman, thank you so much for coming on. >> thank you, kate. appreciate it. >> we'll keep a close eye on
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county election officials in pennsylvania have until 5:00 p.m. today to hand over their official vote tallies for last week's primary. the republican primary today is what people are keeping an eye on because it has been a nile biter. mehmet oz with dave mccormick and kathy barnette is happening now. first and foremost, how many other uncounted votes remain? >> there's still a few uncounted ballots that remain. right now counties are canvassing provisional ballots, military and overseas ballots, so it's not a large number, it's a very small amount.
we will have unofficial returns today at 5:00 p.m. that's when all 67 counties will be sending me a document they signed with the unofficial returns. >> cnn's best estimate right now is there's fewer than 10,000 left to be counted, somewhere between 4,000 and 7,500 votes left to be counted. does that track? >> that tracks, and some of them are also undated ballots as well. the department issued guidance to all 67 counties earlier this morning telling them that the department's position is that those undated ballots should be counted. so that's part of that number as well. >> and that's an important change in guidance, or maybe just clarity in guidance, because david mccormick's campaign has actually gone to court to ask that even these ballots with missing dates be counted. it has to do with an unrelated race from last year. in this guidance you said count them and set them aside. how many ballots is that? >> sure, so we sent a survey to
all 67 counties on friday when this court decision from the third circuit came down, because it's important in my role as acting secretary of state to support the counties and give them as much guidance as possible. so we sent out a survey, and right now it's looking like there are 62 counties that have responded out of the 67 counties, and they're around 4,400 undated ballots. the breakdown is currently around 7600 democrats and 700 republican. it sounds like we'll be heading for a countdown in the senate race in pennsylvania. >> i was going to ask you, not that you go on your gut when you're counting votes, but your gut, in what direction is this helded now? to a recount? >> our gut is that it's very likely headed towards a recount. in pennsylvania the recount law
is when the margin is within half a percent. right now we're within 1%. as far as timeline, as we mentioned, today at 5:00, counties will be sending me the undated returns. then tomorrow, wednesday at noon, that's when candidates can waive whether or not they want to have a recount. then on wednesday, tomorrow, i'm also expected to announce the recount and issue an order on thursday with the recount to start as early as friday of this week. >> secretary, neither campaign is insinuating anything wrong has happened, anything unfair or illegal is happening with the vote count so far. the reason i say that is because the former president, donald trump, he has weighed in for some advice for his preferred candidate mehmet oz, and i want to read what he said in a
statement. he said dr. oz should declare victory -- he said this the day after the election -- dr. oz should declare victory. it makes it harder for them to cheat with the ballots they just happen to find. what's your response to that as the person overseeing this vote count and calling this election. >> you know, votes are still being counted. the certification deadline isn't until june 6. so it's premature to declare a victory. counties have not gone through a recount. so what i want to say is at the department of state, you know, it's important that we are counting every eligible vote in this election, that every pennsylvanian's voice is heard. the election is not over because of the recount, so we need to let the process play out. i am grateful for all 67 counties, all election off officials, all staff that have been putting in extra time to make sure we have an accurate vote count in pennsylvania. that's what really matters, and it matters that every vote is counted in this election. >> and to anyone, be it the
former president or anyone else, who is trying to suggest already that something untoward is happening or will be happening with regard to the vote count in this election, what do you say? >> you know, our elections are fair, they're accurate, and election professionals have been putting time to put in the work to make sure every vote is accurately counted. one thing that i would say is it goes back to the need for reform, legislative reform in pennsylvania for pre-canvassing. it's something we talked about on this show last week is that in pennsylvania, we're not allowed -- county officials aren't allowed to start opening and processing those mail-in ballots until election day. that's why it takes so long for the process to play out here. but the legislature can make an easy fix. they can change this by allowing us to pre-process ballots at least two weeks before election day, like states like florida do, so we can make sure we are
providing election results on election night which will then improve voters' confidence in our election system. there is nothing wrong going on, this is just the process and we're very grateful to election officials who are working hard to make this an accurate count. >> an accurate count and one that is likely helded to the recount, according to the secretary of state of the commonwealth. thank you for being here. i really appreciate it. >> thank you, kate. coming up for us, the cdc issues a new warning about monkeypox, how it's transmitted and who is most at risk right now. we're going to discuss that next. - common percy! - yeah let's go! on a trip. book with priceline. you save more, so you can “woooo” more. - wooo. - wooo. wooooo!!!!! woohooooo!!! w-o-o-o-o-o... yeah, feel the savings. iceline. every trip ia big deal.
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a new warning about monkey pox. all americans can get the virus, but they're saying riergt now that the lgbtq plus community should be especially cautious at the moment ahead of the pride festivities coming next month. the cdc is reporting many of the cases so far are among gay and bisexual men. though the disease can be passed to anyone. there's one confirmed case of monkey pox in the united states and six presumed cases. joining me for more is a pediatrician at colombia university's irving medical center. the cdc has put out this warning that the way they put it is, quote, there's been a notable fraction of cases that are happening among gay and bisexual men, but anyone can get this no matter your sexual orientation. what is this warning stemming from? >> i think the cdc has a responsibility to notify the
public and physicians when they see a trend. as you mentioned, anyone, anyone can get this and can spread it. but i think it is important to know that right now there seems to be some sort of higher exposure level in the lgbtq community. pride festivities are coming up. it's important for people in that community to be aware this is happening. it could happen here.though the right now in this country. to put us on alert, but can happen to anyone and it's important not to stig mytize the illness. >> it's good to note, and experts seem aware but not overly alarmed about monkey pox. this is not as contagious as covid. so what should people know about transmission and the symptoms? >> yes. definitely not covid-19, what we're dealing with here. it is a new virus. it's old. we're seeing it used to spread in africa. we're seeing it in other parts of the world.
important to know it starts as a normal viral illness, usually does, fever, chills, body aches, some swollen lymph nodes and can progress to a rash. the rash turn s intoblisters and the blisters sort of scab over. it's important to know you are contagious when you have actually a day before you develop the rash and until the blisters, the rash scabs over. important if you develop the symptoms to seek medical attention and to remain home if you can. >> on covid, i wanted to ask you, the fda's vaccine advisory committee has dates set to meet and consider the latest round of vaccines for kids. the dates are june 14th to discuss moderna's eua request for 6 to 17-year-olds and june 15th for pfizer for kids as young as six months old. what do you think about how they've combined that consideration of the vaccines for youngest kids? it's been a lot of discussion leading up to this.
>> so much discussion. and i think the most important thing that i want people at home to know is that the delays, the discussions, the back and forth have happened to make sure that this is effective. there has been no question about the safety of these vaccines in young kids. we just want to make sure that it is effective, that it works, that if we're going to vaccinate children, and i hope that we can soon to protect everyone, including my own son, we want to make sure this is effective. so the companies have said they now have data showing that it is effective, 8 0% effective. we haven't seen that data. i'm excited. it's going to be a marathon couple days. i'm excited for them to release the data for us to see it and hopefully to have approval soon. >> approval soon. it seems as -- the approval soon has been coming for quite some time. it has been a marathon trying to get this to point to get a vaccine for youngest kids here. it's good to see you, doctor, thank you for coming in. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> be well. thank you for being here with us today. i'm kate bolduan.
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