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it is just after 9:00 p.m. eastern time, 8:00 here in uvalde, texas, outside robb elementary school. the community held a prayer vigil tonight. i want to play you video that occurred a moment ago as people there listened to "amazing grace." ♪ [ crying ] ♪
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♪ ♪ >> a community in mourning. we've spoken with parents of some of the young children killed here. most of them ten years old. and told some of their stories. there's so much we still don't know. we don't know the names of all the 19 children who were murdered here. we'll try to bring them to you as we learn them.
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there is still so much we don't know about what happened behind me inside this school and outside, as the shooter first got on the scene. we don't know, we're not going to speculate. so, we begin the hour with what we do know and cnn's ed lavandera. ed, so, there is, as i said, a lot we don't know. talk a little bit about where the investigation is. >> one of the key things we learned today was just how long this event unfolded inside this school. and authorities tell us that this lasted anywhere from 40 to 60 minutes from when the time the gunman arrived here at this elementary school. so, you can imagine the horrifying moments that all of these people inside robb elementary endured. >> i'm going to shoot an elementary school. >> reporter: that was one of the chilling text messages the uvalde gunman sent to a 15-year-old girl in germany at 11:21 central time in texas, just 15 minutes before the
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shooting at robb elementary school. >> evil swept across uvalde yesterday. >> reporter: the 18-year-old gunman drove to the elementary school, where he would kill 19 children and two faculty members just two days before they were heading out for summer break. before the school shooting, the gunman wrote messages that foreshadowed the carnage he was about to inflict. >> i'm going to shoot my grandmother. i shot my grandmother. >> reporter: the suspect is described as a dropout of the local high school. after crashing his grand mother's truck in a ditch, officials say he entered the school building and classrooms, shooting children and teachers. >> officers with the independent school district, they approached the gunman and engaged with the gunman at that time. the gunman then entered a back door and went down two short hallways and then into a classroom on the left-hand side. >> reporter: investigators say from the moment the shooter engaged with the campus officer, outside the elementary school until he was shot and killed by
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a border patrol agent inside a classroom, it was an ordeal that lasted 40 to 60 minutes. police, state troopers, and even parents went around the school, breaking windows, trying to help children escape. this man has a nephew at the school. >> he saw a teacher get shot and another kid get hit in the face. >> he saw another classmate get shot in the face? >> a classmate from across the hall. >> reporter: the gunman barricaded himself inside the school. >> it was about 30 minutes after we arrived, after i arrived, that the shooter was neutralized. >> reporter: the gunman lived in his grandparent's home just blocks from the school. >> he crashed the vehicle at that point in time. he exited. he exited with a backpack. he took a rifle with him. he went toward the west side of the campus. >> he had two assault-style rifles purchased legally for his birthday days apart, within the last week.
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>> he used one weapon, which was an ar-15. >> reporter: he also bought 375 rounds of ammunition. one rifle was left in the truck. the other rifle was found with him in the school, along with seven 30-round manage zeens. investigators also found a backpack with several magazines full of ammunition near the entrance to the school. the gunman's motive is still unknown. >> the governor was saying that law enforcement engaged with the gunman. earlier we were told that they did not fire any shots at the gunman. so, we don't really know what that engagement was. >> reporter: it's still very unclear what happened in that initial moment. obviously a great deal of interest in that because people are wondering, could that have been stopped -- could he have been stopped before he entered the school. what we've been told by texas department of safety officials tonight is that the gunman arrived here at this school. the school campus resource officer engaged with him, and that he, in that moment, the
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gunman dropped his backpack and then ran into the school. why there wasn't a shot fired or some sort of more aggressive stance to be able to stop the gunman from going inside the school are answers we just don't have at this point. >> again, as i keep saying, it's a lot we don't know and it's important to point that out. i want to go next to lucy kafanov. he's outside the hospital in san antonio where three children and a 66-year-old were taken. i understand the 66-year-old victim is the grandmother of the shooter, is that correct? >> reporter: likely to be, anderson. the hospital, of course, not confirming that. but the grandmother, we know, is 66 years old and named as cilia, according to texas dps officials. we know that she was shot in the face by the gunman. she somehow managed to contact the police, reporting this crime, then ran across the street, got a neighbor. and then we understand she was medevaced here to san antonio in
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critical condition. the university hospital here in san antonio this afternoon revealing that the 66-year-old's condition had improved from critical to serious. but she is still fighting for her life, anderson. >> and what do we know of the condition of the others who are hospitalized? >> reporter: three other victims are hospitalized, four in total. we have the 66-year-old and three little girls, anderson, a 9-year-old and a 10-year-old, who right now are listed in good condition. but another 10-year-old arrived in critical condition yesterday. her state improved slightly. she's also in serious condition now. we know that all three little girls have family members with them as we speak. flags here lowered to half staff in honor of the victims, and the hospital releasing a statement saying that their hearts are breaking for the children and
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the teachers who were killed yesterday. they say it is truly tragic that we are responding to another mass shooting. and it is another response to a mass shooting for them, anderson. a lot of the doctors and medical professionals at this university hospital here responded to the 2017 sutherland springs shooting, the first baptist church there. so, this is a terrifying nightmare repeated all over again for them. but we know a lot of families are waiting to find out about the condition of their injured loved ones, those three little girls at the hospital behind me expected to recover but still fighting for their lives. anderson? >> lucy kafanov, thank you. devin perez joins us from washington with what he has been learning about the federal effort. evan, what have you learned? >> the way this is obviously a big crime scene, the texas rangers are focusing on the scene at the school, and the fbi is working on the home where he lived with the grandmother, the
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grandparents. and one of the things they're doing, what they spent their day today, anderson, is talking to neighbors, canvassing the neighborhood essentially trying to get information about the home life of the shooter to try to understand a little bit about what exactly may have triggered the events that happened yesterday. among the people they're trying to talk to also are friends, people who associated with him in high school before he dropped out as well as people he worked with at the fast food restaurant where apparently he was earning some money, perhaps which is what explains why he was able to pay as much as $7,000 for the arsenal that he assembled, that he was able to use at the shooting yesterday, anderson. >> what are investigators saying about the weapons they've recovered? >> well, right now what we know is that he bought two ar-style rifles. at least one of those appears that was one of the ones he was
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using -- that he used yesterday. they were bought on may 17th and may 20th. again, just days ago. he turned 18 just days ago. on may 18th, he bought 375 rounds of ammunition. some of these magazines were found there. they found seven magazines there at the scene of the crime. one of the things that, again, the investigators are trying to understand, how long has he been planning this? clearly this is not very cheap stuff that he bought. these are rifles that cost probably about $2,000 a piece. again, for somebody who, according to some of thens withes, some of his friends said he struggled with money and the family was not a wealthy family. again, all of these things are being put together, especially for the fbi. their profilers are going to help work on trying to, frankly, help us understand something that just can't be understood,
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anderson. >> yeah. evan perez, appreciate the details. joining me now, mr. garza. thank you so much for joining us. how are you doing? how is this community doing tonight? >> considering what took place yesterday, we're holding up. we're -- we're a resilient community and a community of faith, hardworking, blue collar, agricultural workers. and it's a sad day in our community. but considering, we're doing well. >> we saw a visual that took place in this last hour, a lot of people coming out. this really brought people together. >> you know, our community may have differences, but in a time of need and a time of crisis, people of uvalde unite. and that's what's good about this. if there's anything good about this, i think it's going to bring our community together. >> do you know -- what answers do you want about what happened
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here? >> well, there's -- there's a lot of questions still. there's, you know -- how did -- how did he gain access? you know, the school -- they're supposed to be locked. you know, an hour, supposedly, in there in one room. you know, why it took so long to get to the shooter? we don't know. there's just still too many questions. >> do -- obviously with active shooters they try usually to stop the shooter as quickly as possible. is it clear to you at this point if most of the killings took place right away and that's why he was able to stay in that classroom without them going in? >> it's not clear. it's not clear to me right now. i've been asking questions. haven't gotten any answers. and i know it's still under
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investigation. it's very preliminary at this point. but there are still a lot of details we don't -- we don't know about. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what resources are there for -- i mean, for the families who are facing this unimaginable loss? >> well, grieving counselors. there's people here with the billy graham organization. clergy from our local churches. we have over 30 churches in our community. and i know everybody's trying to do their part and comfort people during their grieving. >> is there anything else you want people to know about? >> you know, first of all, my heart goes out to the families, the victims. robb elementary school has produced a lot of great students. a lot of great students have walked through the halls of that school, went on to be educators, professors, doctors, lawyers.
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wonderful teachers that have spent countless years. >> one of the teachers killed here was here for 20-something years. >> yeah. she was a very dedicated teacher who had been awarded teacher of the year before. you know, wonderful teachers that have made such an impact on our students. this is a school in the body -- my dad taught here 1965 through 1970. there wasn't a single tree on the campus when he arrived. the first thing he did, he planted trees out of his own pocket. >> he planted some of the trees right here. >> yeah. >> is that right? >> yeah. the first day of school, he made an observation. went to the local pharmacy, brought a canister of chewable vitamins, brought it to school. and every student on a daily basis received a chewable
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vitamin because there was a lack of nourishment. and the most needy children, he would arrange for them to work during their lunch hour at the cafeteria so they could receive a free meal. >> a lot of history here. >> a lot of history. this one tragic event that occurred yesterday, you know, it -- it doesn't define our community. it doesn't define our school. we have a lot of great people here, a lot of people of faith. >> as you said, i think it's the response to what happened here that shows what this community is. >> yes, yeah. >> and we're seeing that. and you know what comes up a lot? i've interviewed yesterday, today. the fact that it was a small community. a tight knit community. so tight knit of a community that my two neighbors across the street, one of them lost a granddaughter. my other neighbor lost a daughter-in-law. you know, how sad is that that that's how close a community we
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are. >> mr. garza, thank you so much for your time tonight. i'm so sorry for what you're going through. >> thank you so much. when we come back, the role the border patrol played in response to the shooting. one agent was wounded. we'll talk about that and the role they play in this community. later, we'll tell you more about one of the young lives lost, lexie rubio. what we're learning about this beautiful 10-year-old. then you'. tater totting, cold or hotting. mealin',', feelin', pie-ing, trying. color r your spread. upgrade your b bread. pair it. share it.t. kraft singles. square it. like pulsing, electric shocks, sharp, stabbing pains, or aintense burning sensation. what is this nightmare? a painful, blistering rash that could interrupt your life for weeks. forget social events and weekend getaways. if you've had chickenpox, the virus that causes shingles is already inside of you. if you're 50 years or older ask your doctor
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allergies don't have to be scary. spraying flonase daily stops your body from overreacting to allergens all season long. psst! psst! flonase all good. members of the u.s. border patrol were among the first on the scene here yesterday and in force. as many as 100 officers finally responded overall here. one agent was wounded outside the school. texas governor greg abbott said today it was the same agent who fatally shot the killer. i'm not sure if he was outside or inside. thanks so much for being with us. can you just talk a little bit about -- there's a lot we don't know and i know there's a lot you still don't know. there was an engagement outside
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the school. what's your understanding of that? >> yeah, i do know that there were some local law enforcement officers that engaged the suspect outside the school. and then he entered the school. i know my team received a call in and around close to 11:30 time frame. and we responded from various locations. i had both on-duty, off-duty folks in a training environment all respond to this environment. >> we're talking dozens, there was 100 you said. >> we had between 80 and 100 officers respond to this location. we decided right away we needed to engage. i was really proud of the men and women. we have the special response team, some of the best trained agents we have. we use them quite often when we get the highest threat environments. and they're certainly qualified for that. >> so, it was a tactical team from border patrol that went into the classroom. >> so, we had three members of our border patrol tactical team. we also had one of our search and rescue responders in that team.
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and we had a couple other border patrol agents that were nearby. and we had some of the local officers that made that initial entry into those classrooms. >> can you talk about that tactical team? is that people who -- often in cities, tactical teams have to come from different locations. they gather at a scene and then they go in. how does that work? >> so, on the border patrol, we have 20 sectors. and almost every one of those sectors has a special response team. and these special operations teams, we use them for various search and rescue efforts. if we have an officer that's injured or hurt or even some of the migrant population we encounter out there. and then quite often we work closely with our state and local partners to make sure that we're able to respond to threats in these communities. quite often in these rural communities, we are the largest law enforcement agency. so, we train quite a bit. in fact, i was meeting with some of my officers earlier, and they were talking about some of their active shooter training they're doing in another location. there's 24 hours of active
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training that has to happen with border agents and we work with local police departments and sheriff's departments. >> when your people got on the scene, the decision was to go in as quickly as they could. >> yeah, that was the first thing we had to do is neutralize the threat as quickly as we can. they didn't hesitate. they came up with a plan. they entered that classroom. and they took care of the situation as quickly as they possibly could. >> at that point, do you know how long the shooter had been inside? >> i do not know the period of time but it was several minutes. as soon as the officers arrived at the school, they didn't hesitate. they knew what they had to do, and i was really proud of the work they had to do. >> one of the things you were telling me on air is that authorities develop a timeline, a tick tock of exactly what happened. we don't have that tick-tock. and there's -- do you know what stage that's at? how does that come together? >> certainly in a situation like this, there are multiple agencies that are investigating. certainly the texas rangers have
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the lead, but they're working closely with fbi, the local police department department, as well as our office of professional responsibility. so, there's a lot of information that has to be gathered from all the agents, all the officers that responded, as well as at the site. so, we're still working to make sure we coe late all that information and we get the best time line. >> so, everybody gets interviewed -- everybody writes a report or gets interviewed about their response and those are -- i think the term you used is deconflicted. they're compared to develop a timeline. >> exactly right. we want to know exactly what happened in this event. >> can you just talk about why there are so many border patrol in this area? i think that would surprise some people. >> yeah, uvalde is about 60 mile asway from the border. we have a check point about five miles outside of town here. i have 140 officers assigned to uvalde. and this is a populated area for the border region. so, i have agents that are stationed in other locations that may not have towns with the
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same types of services and amenities. so they live in these communities. they go to school here, they go to church here, their spouses teach at the schools. we're engrained in these communities. >> does the border patrol take part in the investigation or how does that work? >> we're going to take part of the investigation because our agents were involved. >> as witnesses? >> witnesses. >> got it. i see. in terms of the tactical teams, they will be interviewed -- or how -- does that interview process take right away, or do they get a few days off to regroup? >> a little bit of both. we want to find out exactly as much information as we can early on. but we want to give them time to process the information and everything they saw and witnessed. >> and your officers, customs and border patrol, you've got to see an awful lot. but seeing what goes on in a case for a case like this,
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there's not anything that's going to prepare anybody for that. >> nothing prepares you for a scene they saw and witnessed yesterday. >> i really appreciate what you're doing. i appreciate your time. thank you so much. more on a young life taken in this tragic event. her parents were there. they told her that they loved her, but they didn't think that would be the last time they saw her. what we're learning about this 10-year-old, next.
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because... yiu is for you. yiu is for you. exactly. yvonne yiu. democrat for controller. welcome back to uvalde. you're looking at a live picture outside the robb elementary school. a member of the border patrol laying some flowers there. all throughout the day, we have been seeing family members, community members, adults, many children bringing flowers, laying them outside that school. we have watched as that
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makeshift memorial has grown throughout the day. we're learning more about the young victims of this school shooting here in uvalde, texas. 10-year-old lexie rubio was in fourth grade, killed here yesterday, murdered. cnn spoke with her parents. >> reporter: their pain, unimaginable. the day it all happened, tuesday morning, was supposed to be a day of celebration for felix and kimberly rubio and their daughter lexie. she made all a honor roll at robb elementary, and her parents showed up for an awards ceremony to show how proud they were of her. then after leaving the school came word of the shooting. >> reporter: felix rubio is a first responder. he's a uvalde county sheriff's deputy. his first fear came true when he
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learned his little girl was among those killed. >> all i can hope is she's just not a number. hopefully something gets revolved. that's all i can ask. hopefully something gets resolved. >> what would you like to see resolved? >> violence, guns. i'm a cop, a kdeputy here in uvalde county. this is enough. this is enough. no one else needs to go through this. we never needed to go through this, but we are. >> reporter: the rubios shared this most recent picture of lexi in march. >> she wanted to go to australia. >> she wanted to go to australia? >> she wanted to go to law school. >> law school? >> yes. >> a little girl who wanted to go to law school. her father's a sheriff's deputy
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here. the fact that they were at the school to see their daughter get this award on that same day, it's just so -- >> and you know, it's the one thing, anderson, that her mother just can't seem to forgive herself. even before the interview started, as we were walking up, she came out of the house and she was -- obviously she was crying. but she kept saying over and over, it's my fault, my fault. it was my mistake, my mistake. i was the one that left her there. no matter how many times i kept telling her, it's not your fault. it's not your fault. >> she wishes she had taken her out of the school. >> she wishes she had taken her out of the school, and she can't seem to forgive herself at this time. that was one of the toughest things to witness no matter how many times you told her that. and you can imagine what he's going through as well. he's a uvalde county sheriff's deputy. so, when the call came in there was a shooting at the school, you can imagine what he's
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thinking as he's rushing out there wanting to save others and knowing his daughter is there. >> i'm glad you were there with that family. joining me is the former principal of columbine high school. frank, you and i have spoken at other sickening scenes like this. it's been more than 23 years since the murders at columbine, 12 students, one teacher, dave sanders. what was it like to hear about yet another incident, yet another murder? >> anderson, just devastating. it took me back to columbine but much more so it took me back to what i experienced when sandy hook happened back in 2012, december 14. i was still principal at columbine, and i remember my phone ringing and just seeking advice or wanted my input. and it just took me back to that day. and the information coming in was not accurate. and all of a sudden they said
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there were a few that had lost their life, and by the end of the day, the count just kept rising. and just retraumatized me, as i'm sure it did so many others yesterday. >> i understand you called and you left a message for the principal of robb elementary school. what did you want to say to her? >> that, you know, i made a comment right after columbine. i said, you know, i just joined a club in which no one wants to be a member. and i just want to reach out -- columbine happened 23 years ago. bill bond who was the high school reached out within a couple days and said, frank, you don't even know what you need at this point. but just keep my number. and unfortunately since columbine, i have called of these schools to just offer support. and not that i have all the answers. but i think when i talk to them and i say, i know what you're feeling, they realize that, yes, i do, because i was in that
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situation 23 years ago. >> you know, i mean, it's extraordinary that there is this network now of people who have been through this themselves who reach out time after time after every incident to those who are now a member of this -- as you say, this club who nobody wants to be a part of. sandy phillips, whose daughter was murdered in aurora, colorado, in that movie theater, her son who is a first responder came to this scene for his work. his sister was killed in aurora, colorado. it's extraordinary -- this has been going on so long, there is a network of people in this country, all of whom have been touched personally by this. >> yes. and i know i'm part of an organization the national association of secondary school principals. and they asked me a few years ago to head up something called
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the principal recovery network. and there are about 29 of us that have been involved in shootings within our community. so, we reach out and we have guides just to help them wherever we can. and it's not a one-time phone call. you know, i will be there every step of the way to help them just as people helped me in our community. >> this may be a dumb question, and ignore it if it is. you know, police have learned a lot since columbine. they learned what they need to do, what they don't need to do, what works, what doesn't, the extent that anything can work about getting in fast or not waiting for a tactical unit, getting in as fast as possible, not waiting, making a perimeter. what have you learned? in all the years, i mean, how do you see this now? >> well, i think there's so many lessons learned. you know, and i look at it. when i talk to people, you know, people will say, well, frank,
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you're out there speaking, but these shootings continue to happen. and they do. and one more death is one too many. but the thing that we cannot overlook is how many lives have been saved because of the things we have in place that we didn't have 23 years ago. you know, the only drills we did 23 years ago in colorado were fire drills. now these kids, from a very early age, are learning, you know, lockdown, out of sight. the response of police officers because most of these events are over within five minutes. and so it's -- just listening to the police talk prior to me coming on is just amazing the lives that they were able to save by getting there. but what's unfortunate -- i made a comment 23 years ago that i said i hope these are kids -- my beloved 13 did not die in vain. but these shootings continue to happen. we've got to come up with a solution. i think back to parkland, which
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occurred on valentine's day of 2018 and everybody was fired up and we've got to do things. and the students were stating, you adults have let us down. we need to do something. now four years later, we're having these same discussions. it's time to staop talking and start doing things. and the one thing that all of oour kids, whether it be colorado, connecticut, texas, all of our kids to experience what we have yesterday is just unthinkable. and i know last night there were -- every parent hugged their child as they came home last night, they put them in bed just wondering, you know, there's no guarantees. and we can't allow this evil to win out. >> for those families who now are facing with an empty bed in their home and what to do with their child's clothes and what do you do with their toys and what do you do with everything, what -- how do you -- what's your advice to get through the
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next day, the next two days, the next week? >> you know, i am so fortunate to work with a group called safe and sound schools. and it's headed up by michelle gay, whose daughter joey was tragically killed at sandy hook. she has started this program. she has several people that give parents ideas on what to do and just what they learned. and each situation is different. but michelle is an excellent resource in safe and sound schools. and it's just phenomenal. and she shares exactly what she went through with other families because there are lessons to be learned. and hopefully these families will reach out. right now, within 24 hours, they don't even know what they need. and, you know, what i'll do is wait to hear. but there will come a time that i'll reach tout to make sure that i can provide as much support as possible. and michelle gay is out there. so, we do have this network of
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support for them. >> frank deangelis, appreciate you talking tonight. thank you. coming up, we'll be joined but a republican congressman to discuss the mood among lawmakers, and if there's anything they can agree on to help avoid this from happening again. dad: hey boss. you okay? son: yeah, i'm good. dad: you sure? son: i said i'm fine. howie: since i was little, it was only like me and my parents.
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21? >> you know, i hope so. i think there's a lot of opeople that don't understand the gun laws from the perspective of this. in america, you have to be 21 to buy a hand gun and 18 in most states. there's basically no federal minimum of 21 for long rifles. so, you can -- when the law was made, you can understand, long rifles weren't ar-15s at the time because they kept the age at 18. you have to be 21 -- we just federally raised the age to 21 to buy cigarettes, by the way. when you tack a look at this shooting, the shooting before it, there's an epidemic of young men between the ages of 18 and 21 that are doing these kinds of things. i think one of the easiest things we can do to begin to do something is to say you've got to be 21 to buy a rifle in this country. you've got to be 21 to buy cigarettes. we need universal background checks. we need red flag laws with teeth. these are things that we can do to have that discussion move forward.
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but everybody just sitting in their corner and particularly in my party scared if they say anything they're going to have to face the wrath of the nra and gun owners of america. >> and that's what you think it is, the power of the nra? >> it's the power -- yes, it's the power of not wanting to speak out. like white people don't want the speak out against trump. there's this policebelief it wid to a slippery slope or nobody owns guns at all. nobody's intention is to take everybody's guns away. we are frozen to do anything. i say this to second amendment supporters like i am. we have to be the ones putting forward solutions for responsible gun ownerships. the answer to defend the second amendment isn't that we need
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open carry in every state. it isn't to take your ar-15 and occupy the michigan state capital because you're tough and you can. it's to come up things we can do to ensure that as many of these things we can mitigate, with doe. >> is there -- will any event like this sway members of congress though? >> i think, sadly, yes. it's probably going to ultimately take that but i'd say this to any member of congress or anybody who votes on this stuff, once you actually, you're pent up, you want to say let's raise the age to 21 or have red flag laws but you're scared to death. one e once you say it and get the angry text, you feel very liberated. i want more and more republicans
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to feel strong and passionate about the fact that we've got to do something. is this going to be the thing? i don't know. i hope so. unfortunately, there's going to be something because this is daily occurrence. it makes me, as i'm sure everybody, it's just awful. >> you are an active duty serviceman. you know about firearms. you are supporter of the second amendment. i want the make that clear, correct? >> that's right. it's about saying how can we make this a responsible thing. i'm gun owner myself. i have a license to conceal carry. you with carry an ar-15 in public. the only difference is right now the muzzle is pointed at the ground. i'm not a threat. in two feet i'm a threat. that's the only difference. this is insane. there's a gun fetish in this country. a fetish for guns. i believe in the right to keep
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and bear arms. i don't believe we need to worship guns. there's too many people that do that. >> congressman, i appreciate your time tonight. thank you. >> god bless. ahead, the world reacts and shares its sorrow for what happened here. be right back. if you used shipgo this whole thing wouldn't be a thing. yeah, dad! i don't want to deal with this. oh, you brought your luggage to the airport. that's adorable.
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tmpblts grief felt here in texas and nation wide tonight extends across the globe. the lieeaders paying tribute an sharing in this country's sadness. >> reporter: ukrainian president took time to offer his sympathy. >> i would like to express my condolences to all of the relatives and family members of the children who were killed in an awful shooting in texas. >> reporter: in his own condolence message, he tweeted
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children and teachers were killed in a cowardly attack. we share the shock and grief and the rage of those fighting to end violence. canada's prime minister wrote my heartbreak, i'm thinking of the families, parent, friend, classmates and the co-workers whose lives have been forever changed. canadians are mourning with you and are here for you. uk prime minister and the country's labor leader also weighed on the shooting at robb elementary. >> it's an unspeakable tragedy and our hearts are with the american people. >> reporter: london's mayor expressed his grief tweeting he is utterly heartbroken. my prayers are with the families anding london stands with uvalde. this was new zealand's prime
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minister on cbs late show with stephen colbert. >> when i watch from afar and see events such as those today, i think of them not as a politician. i see them as a mother and i'm so sorry for what has happened here. >> reporter: germany chance chancellor called it an inconceivable massacre for which any words with hardly be found. mexico's president sent a big hug to the families of the victims along with his condolences, pain and solidarity. from the vatican, the holy father. >> i'm heartbroken by the elementary school in texas. i pray for the children and the adults killed and for their families. let's all make a commitment so tragedies like this cannot happen again. >> cnn coverage of the tragedy
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in it can continues with don lemon tonight. don. anderson, it's really about remembering the victims of this and for all the family members who just really, the beginning of the grief, some of the interviews that you have conducted tonight are just -- it's heartbreaking to witness. >> yeah. we have all been through this before. we have all seen this before but it's just stunning and sickening and still a lot to be learned. i know you'll be going over what we do know. there's a lot of information to be learned about what went on here and how this was able to happen. >> anderson cooper on the scene for us. thank you so much. we appreciate that. there's a vigil tonight in texas in a town that many of us didn't know much about. we learned a lot


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