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we hope you see you back here tomorrow at this time. hello. i'm ana cabrera. around the nation flags are flying at grieving americans reel from the mass shooting in texas. as we relearn more, we have vid that shows the shooter before he ran into robb elementary school. >> oh. where are -- >> the bystander captureed this video moments later that shooter would run through an unlocked door with two police officers right behind him. he shoots both officers and then once inside a fourth grade classroom, he slaughtered the two teachers and 19 children. the students nine and ten years old. one of those kill, the father
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shared his daughter's best friend says amerie was killed while calling 9-1-1 on her brand new cell phone. >> i just want people to know that she just died trying to save her classmates. she just wanted to save everyone. >> we have more video now that's tough to watch. it's from outside the school while the gunman was inside. these are the cries of grantic parents who heard the gunshots inside the school and are demanding the police storm it. despite the overwhelming police response, it may have taken as long as than hour for them to breach the classroom and take down the shooter. >> we're trying to establish every single timeline, as far as how long the shooter was inside the classroom. how long did the shooting take
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place. as of now, we have not been able to establish that. we want to provide facts as opposed to just providing timelines that are preliminary. we estimate anywhere from 40 minutes to an hour. >> right now i want to bring in my colleague alisyn in uvalde. it is now about two days after this horrific, horrific massacre. how is the community holding up? >> reporter: well, it's hard. this was supposed to be the last day of school here at robb elementary. instead, this is the front page of the uvalde newspaper today. it is all black. it says the date, may 24th, 2022, and the entire thing above and below the fold is black. and that's the feeling of the community. we see all sorts of families and their children around. they're coming here. they're coming to the memorial. it's in front of the school. 21 little white crosses with the victim's names. there's tons of flowers and stuffed animals, and we see lots
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of families and their kids coming and going. sometimes they come and want to talk to us. more often than not, they don't. everyone looks grief stricken. it is a very, very tough town to be in right now because of all the raw grief. and as you were just saying, part of the issue is what happened. they still don't have enough answers about what happened and why law enforcement wasn't able to go into the school sooner. let's bring in crime and justice correspondent shimon. having covered these, my impression was law enforcement in the drills that they are forced to do all the time have realized you have to get into the school as fast as possible. there used to be a debate about it. now we know you got to get in there. >> right. you form a team as quickly as you can, and you get inside and neutralize the threat. that's what they're taught. we're not getting a lot of
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answers from law enforcement officials. it's kind of coming piece by piece. some of it murky. some of it contradictory. that's what we're waiting for. neutralize the threat and try to save the children. so hopefully at some point we'll get that timeline. what's really -- what has everyone asking so many questions really is because it -- the gunman was in there for an hour, more than an hour, while police were trying to figure out how to get inside this classroom. >> and while parents were beseeching the police officers, get in there, storm the building, let us storm the build, fathers said let us get in there. obviously it would be chaos. obviously there's a fog of war once you get in there. and i understand why police have to move in such a meticulous fashion, and let me say these are unanswerable questions. had they been able to get in
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sooner, who knows who would have been saved. it sounds like they heard gunshots minutes after going in. >> right. what were police seeing? how were they gathering? what efforts were they making to get inside? they have told us that they had a hard time breaching the door. the police lieutenant this morning told us that there may have been a locking mechanism on the door which would have made it difficult for police. >> which also is confusing because it appears the gunman was able to get in with an unlocked door maybe. >> that's the other thing. you're right. the back door to the school was unlocked. and that the police said that he entered unimpeded. so those questions, how is that possible that in this day and age, with the threats at schools across the country, that the door was unlocked? that is something that is part of the investigation? and you're right. parents showed up here.
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and the minutes after there was word of a shooting here at the school, wanting to know what was going inside, the father's seeing the officers outside. you can understand the frustration, wondering why they weren't inside. but hopefully we'll get an account from the officers here, a more thorough timeline, and a recreation of really what went on here in those really, like, minutes. the first minutes are critical here, and then obviously as we know, the fact that he was in there for an hour, perhaps. certainly significant. >> okay. shimon, we'll wait for more reporting on that. thank you very much. ana, back to you. >> i want to bring in analysts to talk to us. thank you both for being here. anthony, we don't have clarity on what took so long to end this massacre, but now we've heard from law enforcement, confirming that the shooter was inside the school for up to an hour before he was killed.
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and we have these new accounts from eyewitnesss that parents were coming on the scene and pleading with officers, yelling at them, urging them to go in. what's your reaction to that? >> my reaction is that this sounds like a complete failure on behalf of the officers on the scene. i can understand if an officer or two officers are down, you get them medical treatment, but we still got to go in. if fellow officers are down, that does not stop us from trying to stop an active shooter. get them out. get them extracted. let's go. let's push. wherever there is sound of gunfire, if there's a little lull in the shooting, where do you hear the screams? push. you go. and the parents outside screaming for officers to go in, they were right. the officers have to go in, into
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danger in these situations. and 40 minutes, 60 minutes, whatever that's too long, and the stuff with the door, there are things for breaching doors in difficult situations. and it doesn't sound like they were prepared. i believe the training collapsed, or just internal failure on the officers there to take the appropriate measures. >> tim, uvalde is a small town, about 16,000 people. so there were a number of different jurisdictions outside agencies, different law enforcement responding to this scene. do you think that could have created challenges in terms of trying to streamline the response? >> thank you for having me on here today. yes, so in an active shooter situation, it's all hands on deck. everyone in the area, you got a badge, you got a gun, you're on site, and that's what happened here. i've been in active shooter situations in the past.
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that's what happened. you get there. you put a plan together. and you enter. in this situation here, they're on site. however, there is security measures that are put in place that are to actively protect the facility which in some cases impede the emergency response. we're also looking at officers on site looking at containment and evacuation as well. and the plans were put into place evidently on site for that. >> you talk about what security measures may have been in place, and minutes ago we learned the school district invested heavily to make school safer a couple years ago, spending $450,000 for security and monitoring, hiring four police officers, hiring a company to monitor social media for threats. and more. the plan outlines 21 different security measures the district says it has undertaken. and yet, anthony, it couldn't
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prevent this horrific massacre. >> well, look, even if it's outside jurisdictions or we don't know each other, ana, if you showed up and i'm there and you're from one department and i'm from another, we're going in. we're a team. i'll take point. you have my back. watch my back, and we're going to press. and we're going to find this shooter regardless of what badge we're wearing, what patch. we go. so all of this money invested has been a waste. because it just failed all of these little kids, and the teachers that died under this -- this attack. -- >> it's so painful to think about. about the children and the teachers and just the people who were in that room with this gunman for up to an hour.
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and we know there are survivors from inside the room, thank god, but to think what they were going through for up to an hour. tim, i want to pivot the conversation for a moment, because there are sill i think a lot of questions about how an 18-year-old could get his hands on these ar-style weapons, and it was legal there in texas for him to purchase these weapons. we're told he passed background checks. and so there has been focus in congress on strengthening background checks as a way to help prevent gun violence. how thorough are federal background checks currently? >> well, yeah. obviously the fbi operates a background check system nationwide which was in effect here where you apply for a background check when you want to buy a firearm. if you have a felony conviction. if you have a mental health
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issue that's been adjudicated, that's been put into the system. you know, that will ping on it and you'll be denied a firearm. however, the data in the system is only as good as what's put into it. the states are responsible for putting that into the system. there could be things that happened in the military which may not have made it into the system. things that may have happened which had not been adjudicated yet as far as mental health issues which would not be in the system, and which would not send up a red flag and keep an individual from getting a weapon. but here they're obtained legally because the fbi runs a system, and if the red flag doesn't go up, they're going to befirearm. >> could there be additional information given to maybe make each background check or each requirement a little bit more robust? >> it's a good question.
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coming from law enforcement and coming from -- i'm a threat management professional, not a legislator. right? this is what the tools that law enforcement are given right now. work with them to keep the guns out of the hands of bad guys. work with what you have right now. that's my response. >>. >> thank you for the conversation and lending your expertise and insights. so as 21 families face the agonizing task now of planning funerals, the community of uvalde comes together to mourn the children and teachers. ♪ last night there was a community prayer vigil for all of them, and people were as you can see, grief stricken. cnn's lucy kavanaugh is at a
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hospital in san antonio. tell us the latest on the patients being treated there. >> reporter: that's right. we know that four patients are being treated here as we speak. separately from the two other adult victims of the uvalde shooting being treated in san antonio both in serious condition. but as for the patients here, university health, we have the grandmother of the shooter. we know that from officials. 66 years old. she was shot in the face by the gunman. brought here in critical condition. it improved to serious yesterday. no change as of this morning. but we also know that three young children are being treated here. threw little girls. two of them a ten-year-old and a nine-year-old are listed in good condition this morning. another one is still fighting for her life. her condition remains serious. the university of health pediatric trauma medical director said the little girl sustained very serious injuries. she described them as destructive wounds.
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these are large areas of tissue missing from the body. emergency surgery. there was a lot of blood loss that these girls experienced. and you have to keep in mind that this gunman used an ar-15 style rifle. the wounds we see, the little hole, does not happen from this kind of a gun. the wounds that are sustained from this kind of a weapon shred tissue, destroy the human body, let alone the body of a young child. i know it's graphic to think about,en but this is the reality the doctors and patients and families are dealing with. those that survived. the girls are doing relatively well, but a doctor, the director of the university health pediatric trauma medical center, got emotional when thinking about the little kids who did not make it. take a listen. >> i think that's what hit us the most. not of the patients that we did receive and we were -- we are
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honored to treat them, but the patients that we did not receive. that i think that that is the most challenging aspect of our job right now. >> in its trauma for the whole community here. the doctors at this hospital also treated victims from the 2017 sutherland spring shooting. some children. the girls recovering, they're expected to make it, but for you it does remain a waiting game. >> yes. as you point out, these are weapons of war. and the idea -- it's hard to think about even the impact on ten-year-old bodies. thank you very much. as you just heard, i mean, the ripple effect of everyone who is traumatized by this from the community even to the doctors training. >> yeah. and we know this country has more guns than people. but most americans back tougher gun laws. other nations have cracked down and see results. so what's stopping lawmakers in
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d.c.? and the psychological impact will last long after the physical wounds have healed and the victims have been buried. how to talk about this tragedy with your children, ahead.
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the horror that happened in the elementary school just behind me is only the latest evidence of the gun violence epidemic in the u.s. but there are potential signs that the devastation of these 19 children being murdered may lead to some compromise on gun reform. lauren fox is live on capitol hill for us. i understand you just spoke exclusively to mitch mcconnell. what did he tell you?
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>> well, mcconnell making it clear to us that he met this morning with senator john cornyn, the senior senator from texas, who was just back in his state yesterday talking to legal officials and grieving families, and he said he made it clear to texas senator cornyn that he wanted him to engage with democratic colleagues, people like senator kyrsten sinema as well as chris murphy to try to find a solution that is directly related to what transpired in texas. now, this negotiation really could signal the beginning of very important talks, because for months murphy and cornyn had tried to find some consensus on background checks and just couldn't get there. it's important to remember that mcconnell often doesn't issue eddics to his members. he likes members to get to con cus collusions on their own, but it's important that you have
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your leadership's blessings when talking about gun reform legislation. this has limits on it. it is not necessarily carte blanche to negotiate every bit of gun reform. it's the smallest opening that something may be moving on capitol hill. >> that is really interesting, and it's a big development. lauren fox, thank you very much. and just to be clear, there's no country in the world that has more firearms than americans do. cnn's tom foreman joins us with the staggering numbers. tom, what have you seen? >> lawmakers want to deal with this, it's a big hill to climb. 120 guns for every 100 americans. every single person you see, imagine a gun and for every fourth or fifth one, add an extra one. that's how many guns. more guns than cars. that's one way of thinking it. compared to other countries, 120.5 in the united states. 62 for every people in the
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talkland islands. and in yemen, 53 per 100 people. compared to global ownership overall, big numbers. 330 million people in the united states. 393 million guns. the rest of the world, 7.4 billion people, and they're just edging the u.s. out collectively. the total number of guns. >> reporter: and tom, what about the process to buy a gun in the u.s. compared to other countries? >> this is one of the chief targets of people concerned about this. look what happens in canada. yes, a little different province to prince, town to town. as the general rule, you have to obtain a license after a waiting period, have a photo guarantor, saying it's somehow. you have to go to a gun safety course and pass written and practical tests. you have to complete a background check. questions of whether you pose a risk, including whether you post dangerous threatening things on the internet.
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you have to provide references, and you have to have some checkback on the people that you have lived with or been around in the past couple years to make sure you don't pose a threat to them. all of this so you can get a gun in canada. in the united states, in general terms, again, different state to state, maybe, but pass an instant background check if buying from an authorized seller and no restrictions if you're buying from a gun show or from a private seller. huge, huge difference. the u.s. continues to have some of if not the most liberal gun laws in the world. they certainly fit into that category. that's why making changes here at the law level, any other way, cultural way, it's big. it's hard. there are a lot of guns out there. >> tom, that's really valuable context. tom, thank you very much. as i said it, back to you, we're preparing for a press conference that is going to be coming from officials here in half an hour. we're getting ready for that. >> okay. we're going to let you prepare for that and you'll bring us new
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details as you learn them on the ground. bipartisan talks are underway about possible gun violence reform. the congressman from rhode island is going us. tom laid out how the u.s. compares to other countries. it's clear america is failing when it comes to gun violence. what do you see as the solution here? >> well, there's no question when children cannot go to school safely and go to school and return home alive, we have failed them. the house passed two pieces of legislation to expand and strengthen criminal background checks, and to close the sharlton loophole that allows people to buy a gun even if the background check is not completed in three days. the first, pass the bills and get them to the president's desk. we need to make sure people who are dangerous to themselves or others don't have easy access to a firearm or access at all. the red flag laws. we have dozens of bills, we need
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to bring them to the house floor, pass them and send them to the senate. i think the american people are sick and tired of the rituals. of the lowering the flags, of the prayer vigils. of the ringing of our hands. they expect congress to act. our republican colleagues have stood in the way of something as basic as background checks. i hope the most recent tragedy will begin to change their attitude and they're work with democrats to enact safety measures. >> you have republicans reporting that this shooter had no criminal or mental health history. lindsey graham says he feels no law could have prevented the massacre. >> i can't assure the american people there's any law we can pass to stop this shooting. this man had no criminal record. he shot his grandmother in the face. he lawfully purchased a gun. i don't know how -- i can't tell
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people that i can think of a law that would have stopped this particular shooting. are there other things we can do? yeah. >> what's your response to that? >> first, that's always the argument of people who oppose common sense gun safety legislation. there's not one law that is going to end all gun violence, but it's a combination of laws that will reduce the gun violence. one law that would have prevented what happened is an assault weapons ban. he wouldn't have been able to buy the gun he bought that day. second, we don't know enough about the mental health of this individual. whether there were any mental health providers that would have prevented him from buying a gun had a red law flag been in place. 3.5 million gun sales have been denied since background checks were put in place. we've had over 200 mass killings in this country this year alone. 27 school shootings. we have a gun violence epidemic.
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we have a lot of proposals that can make a real difference. we need our republican colleagues to understand we can no longer live in a country with this level of gun violence. this is an american problem. a gun violence epidemic that doesn't exist anywhere else in the world because it's too easy for individuals, particularly dangerous individuals and criminals to get their hands on guns, particularly assault rifles, assault weapons. and we have a lot of proposals in the house. my view is we need to bring them to the floor, pass them and send them to the senate and hold people accountable who are not willing to support common sense gun safety legislation. >> we're discussing the realm of possibilities of what can be taken, you proposed a bill that would ban military style assault weapons. doesn't have any republicans on board, and some have expressed openness to other measures like mitt romney who says expanding background checks is something to look at. he argues banning weapons like ar-15s should be left to the
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states. >> well, look, we know as the president said in his remarks when we had an assault weapons ban in place, it worked. mass shootings declined dramatically, and when it expired, they tripled in number. we know it works. we have a number of proposals. the red flag laws, strengthening background checks, banning high capacity magazines. there are a number of proposals. we should get as much done as we can to reduce gun violence in the country. and our republican colleagues won't even pass criminal background checks that have been languishing in the senate for months now. but they need to come to the table and recognize that the american people are demanding that congress do something to respond to this gun violence, and we can't have thoughts and prayers and another moment of silence. people expect action. we've been fighting hard on the house side. and we've sent over two bills. i think we'll send more. our republican colleagues particularly in the senate need to understand they're going to be held accountable by the american people in the midterm
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elections if they don't do something to reduce gun violence in the country. >> quickly, are you encouraged that mitch mcconnell it sounds like encouraging and urging cornyn to talk with chris murphy? >> absolutely. and it's important to remember the background check bill is supported by 90% of americans. the red flag laws are supported by 84 % of americans. the political risk is to not do something. these are broadly supported, enthusiastically supported by the american people, and i am encouraged. i hope it will result in real progress and getting bills to the president's desk. >> i hope you're right. i hope there's room to compromise here and do something to stop more deaths. any deaths. right? >> absolutely. >> congressman, thank you very much for your time. >> my pleasure. we're following other developments today. you're seen the video. rioters chanting hang mike pence as they storm the capitol. now new details are emerging from the january 6th committee on how president trump reacted. 's an innovator in all of us.
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chants of hang mike pence during the rye car-- riot. ryan nobles is on capitol hill. what are you learning? >> reporter: we're told that two different witnesses to the january 6th committee described what president trump's mood was like as the rally was unfolding. particularly how he responded to the way the crowd ruz reacting to the vice president mike pence. and, of course, we knew at that time that president trump was trying to encourage and pressure mike pence to stand in the way of the certification of the election results. and he was firing up the crowd that was here in washington on that day to put that pressure on mike pence. listen to what he said earlier in the day. >> mike pence, i hope you are going to stand up for the good of our constitution and for the good of our country. and if you're not, i'm going to be very disappointed in you. >> reporter: you can hear how the crowd responded to what trump had to say. pence did not comply with trump's direction. he did not stand in the way of
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the certification of the election results. and that's part of what led the mob to come here to the capitol and create all that chaos and violence. we're told according to this witness testimony that people inside the white house on that day saw trump reacting favorably to the calls for things like for mike pence to be hanged by the individuals that were in the crowd. some that were displaying gallows outside of the building. and this is a key part of the investigation, because what the committee hopes to demonstrate is the lack of attention that trump had in terms of trying to quell the violence here and getting his supporters out of the building. in fact, as things were going on, and leading up to this time, the president tweeted on january 6th. he said this. quote, mike pence didn't have the courage to do what had to have been done to protect our country and our constitution. giving states a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify, usa demands the truth.
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and this tweet was sent just minutes after vice president mike pence was rushed off the floor. according to this witness testimony, trump was upset that pence was forced to be pulled out of the situation and was questioning why it needed to happen. this, a key part of this investigation, and the question, ana, will it be a part of the hearings coming up in the month of june? >> and june is just a week away. less now. thank you, ryan, for that reporting. we have this just in to cnn. ray liota known for his role in "field of dreams" as died. his publicist says he was working on a project in the dominican republic when he passed away in his sleep. he was 67 years old. we'll be right back. in a lot of pain.o bad e i was unable to eat. itit was very hard. kimberly came to clearchoice with a bunch of missing teteet, struggling with pain, with dentatal disease. clearchoice dental implants solved her dental issues.
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minutes from now an update from officials on the deadly texas massacre. as we're learning, guns are now the leading cause of death among children in the united states. with us now are nationally known psycho therapists robbie ludwig and daniel bishop, a survivor of parkland where 17 students lost their lives.
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thank you for being here. daniel, four years have passed since you lived through a mass shooting. how are you feeling in the wake of the latest tragedy? >> i'm heart broken. as a survivor, as an activist, as someone who constantly sees the effects of gun legislation and gun control or lack thereof in this country, i'm just devastated. and especially someone that wants to go, as someone who wants to go into the field of education, i'm just -- i don't know what comes after this. you know? like, i don't know what comes next. and i don't know what more we can do as citizens to try to urge our lawmakers to defend us. i'm just heart broken. >> on a personal level, when you hear of these shootings, does it take you back? do you have some kind of an emotional response and put yourselves in the shoes of the children having gone through it
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yourself? >> of course. yeah. of course you think about all the things you thought when you were in that situation. right? but what i constantly think about in these times, i think, like, this can happen to anyone. there's nothing special about me. i happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. that can happen to anyone. even the people who refuse to pass legislation in order to support gun control. and children like are we going to put children's lives in front of profit? are we really going to put profit in front of chirldren's lives? it doesn't make any sense to me. i don't know what comes next from here. even with people in office that want to pass legislation, it still can't get done. it breaks my heart. >> this n this case the victims are so young when you think about nine and ten years old,
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those who died. even younger children at this school who had to go through the fear of being in there and thankfully escaping. what do you think those survivors are going through right now? >> i am sure it is extremely traumatic what they had to see, and they will experience probably post-traumatic stress disorder. it's horrific for the parents as well, and very scary. and hopefully their community will provide the opportunity for them to talk and have the feelings and figure out ways that they can be part of the solution during dark times. we need to tell both ourselves and our children that they can work toward a change that's very powerful. and i think when we shift from feeling like there's nothing we could do, that's not accurate. and focus on what we all can do or what we can do, those small changes can make a huge impact,
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and that's what i think is really important to focus on. >> and so, daniel, if you could speak with any of these young survivors of this latest shooting, what would you tell them? >> it's hard to say, because they're so young. it's hard for them to even understand the full -- the big picture here. but i think the most important message i would try to get across is there are people that are thinking about you, that are praying for you and care about you that are going to work for you from here on in to make laws to protect children just like you. and i think that's important to remember, that there's always from now on, there are always going to be people thinking about them, and want them to prosper after such a tragedy. >> they had this whole community there that they know, so intimately, but then there's this broader community around the country lifting them up and
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with them through this horrific tragedy. robbie, i have two elementary-year-old children, a ten-year-old and six-year-old. i have taken the approach of largely shielding them from the news the past couple days. i don't want them to have fear of going to school to know that this nightmare is a reality. how should we as parents be talking to our children about this? >> well, if your kids are in school, they can hear what's going on. so parents may want to stay on top of this. traumatic events happen, and you want your kids to hear it from somebody they feel safe with, and they trust. if they hear it from other children, maybe they won't get accurate information, and it could be scarier. so it's okay for a parent to say i heard about this story in the news. it's very sad. what have you heard? and then give them an opportunity to talk and share their feelings or what they know about the situation. >> that's such useful advice. thank you for being here, both
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of you. i really appreciate both of your perspectives and what you shared today. we'll be right back.
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beijing. he called china the most serious long-term challenge to the international order. blinken's speech comes as officials try to walk back president biden's comments earlier this week in tokyo about u.s. willingness to defend taiwan. cnn's kylie atwood is at the state department for us. what did the secretary say? >> reporter: well, listen, ana, he really honed into the idea of competition with china, talking about how the united states is investing at home and aligning with allies so that they can really compete with china on the world stage, particularly because of that threat that china poses to international world order, as you said, but he was also very clear in saying that the united states does not want that competition to lead to conflict, said the united states isn't seeking a new cold war with china, can you not want a conflict of any kind and was very clear in saying that the biden administration isn't trying to overturn the political order in china. they're not trying to sever the
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economies of the united states and china, but he was also clear in saying that the u.s. will clearly articulate opposition to certain things that china is doing, things such as their continued support for putin's war in ukraine. and talked about the need to really focus on that just for the united states but globally saying in the indo-pacific, that support for putin's war in ukraine should raise alarm bells. when it comes to the indo-pacific, i also want you to listen to what he said about u.s. policy vis-a-vis taiwan. >> on taiwan, our approach has been consistent across decades and administrations. as the president has said, our policy has not changed. the united states remains committed to our one china policy, which is guided by the taiwan relations act, the three joint communiques, the six assurances. we oppose any unilateral changes to the status quo from either
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side. we do not support taiwan independence, and we expect cross-strait differences to be resolved by peaceful means. >> reporter: now, of course, those comments come just days after president biden caused some confusion, talking about the united states being willing to intervene militarily if china were to attack taiwan, which of course isn't exactly in line with what secretary of state tony blinken and what decades of u.s. policy on taiwan have been, where they have essentially tried to create some confusion over what the united states would do if there was that conflict. but the secretary of state being very clear in saying that that is the policy and the united states doesn't support an independent taiwan. ana >> the policy of strategic ambiguity. kylie atwood, thank you for that update. our coverage continues after a quick break. who are positive for acetylcholine receptor antibodies, it mayay feel like the world is moving without you.
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