tv The Situation Room With Wolf Blitzer CNN May 27, 2022 2:00pm-3:01pm PDT
first, we need to gain the information about exactly what happened at the school to find out the extent to which those laws were complied with, to find out what extent they were not complied with, to find what shortcomings allowed this to occur. second, we need to have a discussion to make sure our schools are safer. second, as i was discussing two days ago, you can expect robust discussion and my hope is laws passed that i will sign addressing health care in this state. there is an array of health care issues we face as a state in general, but there are an array of health care issues that relate to those who commit gun crimes in particular. those need to be addressed. whether it be the health care issues that i talked publicly here about with the mayor two days ago and would affect the community in general, or whether it be laws that address the
challenges that are now surfacing that this killer had in his life. that lead to someone doing what he did. and then there will be all other kinds of issues, but there will be committees formed. there will be meetings held. there will be proposals that will be derived, many of which will lead to laws which will be passed in the state of texas, because let me make one thing perfectly clear. the status quo is unacceptable. this crime is unacceptable. we're not going to be here talking about it and do nothing about it. we will be looking for the best laws that we can get passed to make our communities and schools safer. go ahead.
[ inaudible question ] . >> let's be clear about a couple things. that show that these background checks, if everyone wants to seize upon a particular strategy, and just assume, well, that's the golden strategy right there, look at what happened in the santa fe shooting. a background check had no relevancy whatsoever, because the killer took the gun from his parents. look at what happened in the shooting in sutherland springs. there was a background check that was done. it was done in a flawed way that allowed the killer to get a gun.
and so anyone who suggests, well, maybe we should focus on background checks as opposed to mental health, i suggest to you is mistaken. if there's anybody here who thinks we have perfect health care in this country, in this world, they're wrong. if there's anybody who thinks we can't do more to address mental health care, they're wrong. they can. we can. and we're going to. go ahead. yes. [ inaudible question ] >> what i have been told about that is several things. one is that this is an ongoing
investigation, and there have been obviously new facts and information surfaced revealed as a result of that investigation that are different today than they were two days ago. second, there will be an ongoing investigation that detail who knew what when, who was in charge of what strategy, why was that particular strategy employees, why were other strategies not employed. bottom line would be why did they not choose the strategy that would have been best to get in there and to eliminate the killer and to rescue the children? >> i can't hear you. go ahead. >> would you consider a ban on 18-year-olds buying an ar-15. >> antonio, how are you doing, man? >> in a very respectful way,
would you consider, would you consider at least a ban on 18 years old being able to buy an ar-15? that's what i'm asking. >> so, it's my understanding that ever since texas has been a state, an 18-year-old has had the ability to buy a long gun, a rifle. right. and since that time, it seems like it's only been in the past decade or two that we had school shootings. so for a century and a half, 18-year-olds could buy rifles, and we didn't have school shootings. but we do now. maybe we're focusing our attention on the wrong thing and we're focusing it on --
>> we have been talking to senate democratic lawmakers who asked for gun control. i'm asking you now. i apologize for interrupting you at the pres conference, but i have been here for three days. the mayor, the intelligence people. i don't know how to express -- i know you see it, too. we have to do something. an 18-year-old shouldn't have this type of gun. >> next question. i can't hear you. speak up.
[ inaudible question ] >> what is the status of his employment? >> can i -- i was unable to hear the first part of your question. would you restate it? >> the school's police chief, chief arredondo, the police who stopped police from going in earlier, is he specifically under investigation and what is the status of his employment? has he stood down pending the investigation? >> so, every act by every official involved in this entire process is under the investigation conducted both by the texas rangers and by the fbi. every act of all of those officials will be known and identified and explained to the public. but i cannot overemphasize
enough, we need to get that information to the families of all these victims who deserve to know the most. as far as his employment status is concerned, that's something that is beyond my control and i have no knowledge about. >> go for it. sure. [ inaudible question ] >> you know, as the governed, i'm not in law enforcement. i have not -- i am the mayor of the city, but once we know what took place, what went down, we'll get to the bottom of it and see. i have been just as confused as you are because as the governor was, i got the same information that the governor got until yesterday afternoon, i was blown away, and then again this morning. other information. so i don't have an answer for you yet. but i can tell you, if we need to make changes in that, we
will. >> if you're just joining us, welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world. wolf blitzer is off tonight. i'm jim acosta in "the situation room." let's discuss what we just heard in that news conference with the texas governor, greg abbott. he said he was misled about the police response to the school massacre, as authorities are now admitting mistakes were made. we're joined by cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz on the ground in texas. shimon, what stood out to you? obviously, hearing the governor of texas say that he was misled and that he's livid, i suppose, with law enforcement officials about what he was told earlier this week is obviously big news. but he did seem to be dodging some questions as well, again, we're heading into the evening with more questions really than
answers. >> right. and he i think is saying he wants every action to be investigated by every official who was involved and suggesting that it's going to be the texas rangers. but then he's also talking about the fbi being involved in this investigation, which right now they're not. they have been just assisting authorities here. we need to get some clarification, certainly from the fbi on that. is he saying he wants the fbi to now come into this investigation? i'm not entirely sure of some of the nuance on that. that's something that could potentially be interesting. i don't think i heard him talk about the department of public safety. this is the head there, steven mccraw, he's the one who took to the podium today and revealed all these new facts, the fact that 19 officers were in the hall of this building, of this school behind me, as the shooter was holding children, teachers captive inside this classroom
where several children have been shot. by the team police had entered into this hallway, and big questions have been, why didn't police storm that room? why didn't any of those 19 officers go towards the gunfire and break into that room and try and rescue those children? the other thing, of course, all this stems because really, the moments when the governor briefed the public about the shooting, he spoke about the bravery of officers, saying how they were running towards gunfire, that it could have been far worse. obviously, we now know that was not the case. he says he was misled. he said he was in a room with law enforcement officials, he took notes, and this is the information they gave him, there same information that they have been giving us now for several days until today. so the next steps here, certainly it does sound like the governor wants those actions,
the information, the inaccurate information that was released and given to him and then released to us in the public, he wants that investigated. so we'll see what happens. we'll see if that actually happens. certainly significant the governor is asking for that investigation because today, jim, i was asking the head of the dps here, steve mccraw, if there was going to be an independent investigation. so maybe perhaps we're heading in that direction. the other questions, of course, surround the chief. the chief of the police here, the school police. peter arredondo. where is he? he wasn't at the press conference. there were questions about whether or not he should be -- whether or not he should resign, whether or not he should sort of take a leave of absence. we don't know where that stands. we have no information from him. he wasn't at the press conference, so we have not been able to ask him questions. >> and i guess, shimon, we don't know exactly who misinformed or
lied to the governor of texas. we didn't get that straightened out, did we? >> here's the thing, no, we didn't, but here's the thing, jim. the dps, department of public safety here, it's the largest law enforcement agency. it's kind of an arm of the governor's office, right? they report to him. it runs through the state. so presumably, it would have been people in that agency. keep in mind, jim, just two days ago, i was outside the high school where the governor was given the briefing. and he sitting next to him was steve mccraw, the head of the dps here, who also then said that there was a public safety officer here, the school police officer. that doesn't turn out to be the case, so still a lot of questions, jim. >> all right, shimon, stand by. i want to bring in ed lavendera just coming out of the news conference. what stood out to you?
the governor was very defensive, didn't have a lot of answers. >> no, and as you heard, insisting he was misled, but before he made his comments on wednesday that in his words that the shooting would have been a lot worse because of the actions that law enforcement took that day and that the officers showed amazing courage, running toward the gunfire. and obviously, to some extent, that might be true, but by and large, what we have heard today after the news of 19 police officers inside the hallway of that school, as the gunman was still inside the classroom, as children were calling 911. you know, all of those facts we have learned today kind of fly in the face of what the governor said on wednesday. and he insists he was livid and misled. there was also some opportunity, the superintendent of the school district here in uvalde was also inside. the mayor, he was asked toward the end, not sure if it was
clear for everyone at home, he was asked about the future of the police chief here in this city. and it's not exactly clear whether or not the mayor is going to take any action in terms of asking for the resignation of the police chief or call for the resignation of the police chief at the school district. so kind of stunning, and after the press conference, i went up to both the mayor and superintendent to try to ask those questions again about the fate of those two police chiefs here in uvalde. they walked away without answering or continuing to answer any of the questions that we had. so it's not clear where that stands here at this point, jim. this comes on a day where we have learned just some dramatically emotional stories of what exactly unfolded inside that school. >> it was a wrong decision, period. there's no excuse for that. >> the director of the texas department of public safety makes a stunning admission. that police were wrong in waiting to go in and eliminate an active shooter.
after he had started killing students and teachers. >> texas embraces active shooter training, active shooter sto certification, and that doctrine requires officers, we don't care what agency you're from, you don't need a leader on the scene. every officer lines up, finds where the rounds are being fired at and keeps shooting until the suspect is dead. >> the decision to back down from an active shooter was, according to officials, made by the chief of police. >> the incident commander at the time, it's believed, that in fact it was a barricaded subject and we had no time. there were no kids at risk. >> the admission comes after he laid out the timeline that day. at 11:27 a.m., a teacher, he said, had propped open a door to go outside and grab her cell phone. then the gunman fired shots at two people near the school grounds. >> multiple shots fired at the school at 11:32. at 11:33, the suspect begins shooting into room 111 or 112.
he shot more than 100 rounds based on the audio evidence. at 11:35, three police officers entered the same door that the suspect entered. all three work for the uvalde police department. the three initial police officers who arrived went directly to the door and two received grazing wounds at that time from the suspect, while the door was closed. 11:37, more gunfire. another 16 rounds was fired. one at 11:37, 11:38, at 11:51 a police sergeant and agents began to arrive. 12:03, officers continue to arrive in the hallway. >> gunfire continued while agents were still in the hallway, but they didn't go in the classroom until a janitor brought the keys. >> both of the classrooms he shot into were locked when officers arrived. they killed the suspect. >> second grader edward silva was in his classroom when the shooting started. >> at first, they sounded like something like was popping.
kind of like fireworks. >> just after 12:00, the 911 calls began from a child inside the classroom. where shots were fired. >> she identified herself, whispered she's in room 112. at 12:10, she called back, and advised multiple dead. 12:13, again she called on the phone. 12:16, she called back and said there are eight to nine students alive. 12:21, you can hear over the 911 call, three shots were fired. at 12:36, 911 call, lasted for 21 seconds. the initial caller called back. student child called back and was told to stay on the line and be quiet. she told 911 he shot the door. at 12:43 and 12:47, she asked 911 to please send the police now. >> 11-year-old maya serillo was inside the classroom with the gunman. >> she got some blood and put it
on herself and pretended she was dead. >> law enforcement says they are now looking at all the missed warning signs. >> ramos asked his sister to help him buy a gun. she flatly refused. that was in september of '21. on march 1st, 2022, there was an instagram he had with four people, a chat. he discussed him buying a gun. ramos replied, just bought something. on march 14th, there was an instagram posting by the subject in quotations, ten more days. a user replied, are you going to shoot up a school or something? the subject replied, no, and stop asking dumb questions, and you'll see. >> the shooter bought two ar-15 style rifles and a trove of ammunition. >> he had purchased and had a total of 1,657 total rounds of ammunition, 350 of those rounds were inside the school. >> his mother is now responding to questions about her son. >> translator: i have no words.
i have no words to say. i don't know what he was thinking. he had his reasons for doing what he did. and please don't judge him. >> and jim, you know what really makes a lot of this so much more dramatic in the last three days and the way the stories are changing. you have to remember in this community, law enforcement agencies are some of the largest employers. many of these families that are victims of all this have family members, friends who work in the law enforcement community. many of the families we have spoken to, these are people who wanted to believe what they were being told early on. and so these changes is also very hard for them to comprehend and understand. jim. >> absolutely devastating. all right, ed lavendera, thank you. let's get more analysis from cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz alongside law enforcement analysts jonathan and peter. peter, let me start with you first. this is a texas-sized mess that they have on their hands down there. the authorities now say it was
the wrong decision not to breach the classroom. but there are still a lot of unanswered questions including the governor saying he was misled about all of this. and that he's livid. i mean, doesn't seem -- it seems like there's a lot of finger pointing going on. >> yeah, jim, absolutely. a lot of finger pointing. there's no reason for any of that. you know, obviously, the texas rangers, dps have started to peel back the onion a little bit and get to the truth. you know, there's a saying, the first forces on the battlefield are greatly exaggerated. people want to embellish and cover for some of their mistakes. just by a simple investigation that dps and in suggestion with the fbi, they're finding out the initial stories were fabricated or exaggerated. and they're getting to the truth now. the truth is just, you know, i have listened to that press
conference by colonel mcgraw earlier, and the truth is it's actually frightening. it's very disturbing. >> it is very disturbing. and jonathan, the incident commander treated it almost like a hostage situation rather than an active shooter. doesn't it run counter to everything officers are taught about how to respond to something like this? the other question i have is does it matter either way? why not charge in either way? >> jim, let me just first start off and be very blunt. this could turn out to be one of the worst police failures in modern u.s. history. and there needs to be accountability because the incident commander on that day made the wrong call. you know, we have to investigate why that call was made to deal with a barricaded subject as opposed to what is a well known, well trained policy of active shooter response, hostile intruder response by law
enforcement, which is going to the threat and neutralizing it as fast as possible. even under fire, officers are trained to go to that threat because every second counts. and what we saw here was that delay cost children their lives. full stop. we know that. we heard that today. and the press conference we had, shimon asked the right questions and pressed hard to get the answers that were necessary. now that we have them, they're stunning. i'm almost at a loss for words at what i heard law enforcement do in those moments. >> shimon, you did an excellent job pressing for answers there earlier today. this incident commander was actually the police chief for the schools district police force. i know you were talking about this earlier. presumably he knew the school. does it make any sense to you he would assume kids were no longer at risk when the gunman was inside two adjoining classrooms full of students? it doesn't make sense to me.
>> no, and i don't think it made sense to anyone who spoke here today, including the head of the dps here, steve mccraw, or any law enforcement official. this is not the way you conduct these kinds of operations. and we don't know why he did this. peter arredondo is the chief. he did speak briefly after tuesday when this happened. it was a brief statement, was not seen or really heard from him since. he was not here today. we don't know why he wasn't here today. and so as a result, we're really not getting very specific answers, jim. >> absolutely. and parents down there, that whole community down there, they have every right to be totally irate with this situation. shimon, peter, jonathan, thank you all very much. coming up, we'll bring you an exclusive account from one of the young survivors of the uvalde massacre. stay with us. you're in "the situation room." with merrill. s
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we're beginning to hear truly harrowing accounts from students who survived the texas gunman's rampage. lucy cavkacavanauv joining us. tell us what's you're hearing. >> that's right, jim. i mean, what these kids went through is truly too gruesome to imagine. i mean, they were trapped inside that classroom watching their beloved teachers, their closest friends, their classmates in their final moments. the bloodshed that they saw, the sounds that they heard, the carnage all through the eyes of 9, 10, and 11-year-olds. these kids are certainly lucky to have survived, but the scars
they will be carrying will remain with them the rest of their lives. my colleague, nora, interviewed one 11-year-old, mia, who was inside that classroom. the kids, she tells cnn, were watching the movie lilo and stitch when the gunman burst into the room. she described the harrowing moments to nora. >> he says the shooter looked one of her teachers in the eye, said good night, and then shot her. then he opened fire, shooting the other teacher, and a lot of maya's friends. mia's friends, and she heard screams. and then heard him shooting in that classroom. heard a lot of gunshots. after the shots stopped, though, she says he started playing music, sad music. i asked how would you describe it, she said it just was sad. like, you want people to die. she says she actually put her hands in the blood from her friend, who lay next to her.
she was already dead. and then smeared the blood all over herself, all over her body, so that she could play dead. she told me she assumed the police just weren't there yet, but afterwards, she heard the grown-ups say the police were there but waiting outside. and that's the first time that she really started crying in the interview. she had been pretty stoic up until then. that's when she started crying, saying she didn't understand why they didn't come in and get her. why wouldn't they come in, why wouldn't they come in? >> and mia managed to get her dead teacher's cell phone and dial 911. she told the dispatcher, please come. we're in trouble. obviously, they didn't come in time to help her friends. that's just one story. two other boys interviewed by cnn who survived the shooting, they spoke to our network. jaden perez is 10 years old. he says he never wants to return to class. he watched all of his closest friends die on tuesday.
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after 19 children and 2 teachers were murdered by a gunman, armed with an ar-15 style assault weapon in uvalde, texas. the national rifle associate is kicking off its annual meeting in that same state, in houston just a few hours' drive from the massacre. ryan young is following this for us from houston. ryan, what's the latest there? >> jim, the emotions here are very raw. so i'm going to apologize in case someone starts cussing in front of the camera. people have been screaming across the way at people going inside the convention. you can see the heavy police presence. every time someone seems to stop, the protesters here gather and start chanting and screaming at them. we know they had a large gathering earlier. more than 1,000 people seemed to show up, and hear beto o'rourke talk about how he wants to see
things change in the state. but this is where the emotions of what happened just a few miles away from here have boiled over. we have seen people crying, people nearly come to blows in the street. police have been very responsive to make sure that hasn't happened. but you can feel the raw emotions. i had one mother tell me she is tired of standing by on the sidelines and she wants people on the inside to know that she wants this to stop. listen to ted cruz and how he framed this day and why he's here today. >> we must not react to evil and tragedy by abandoning the constitution or infringing on the rights of our law-abiding citizens. now is not the time to yield to panic or intimidation or fear. now is not the time for lies. it is not the time for empty political gestures. now is the time for unity. >> time for unity, but you can
see there is a pro-gun rights person over here and they're being surrounded by the crowd and being shouted down. this is happening over and over, jim. it's kind of sad to see, but at the same time, you understand why the emotions are so high. jim. >> absolutely. looks like a very volatile situation. ryan, thanks very much. ryan young in houston there. >> joining us now is jeh johnson, the former homeland security secretary in the obama administration. how galling is it, do you think, to see republican leaders meet at the nra convention there in houston just days after 21 people were killed at an elementary school? >> jim, two things. and thanks for having me on. first, ted cruz and i both know that there are almost no constitutional rights that are absolute. the freedom of speech is not absolute. the freedom of religion is not absolute. the second amendment is not an absolute constitutional right.
there is a right to bear arms in the second amendment. that does not mean, however, you get to keep a surface-to-air missile in your garage. nor should it mean that a demented monstrous 18-year-old should be able to walk into a store someplace in texas on his 18th birthday and buy a weapon of mass destruction. we can regulate gun sales. we can regulate who gets a gun in america consistent with the second amendment. we have done so for mile lifetime. the other argument that the nra continues to make, and it's just an argument, the view there seems to be that if i give an inch on this particular piece of legislation, that i'm giving up my entire right. that is so not true. i cherish my driver's license. but that doesn't mean therefore that i'm willing to permit the freedom to drive if you're intoxicated. for matters of public safety, i
want better regulation of driving while drunk. i don't understand why members of the nra, who for the most part, are responsible gun owners, they're careful gun owners. i know some of them. i don't understand why the nra does not simply embrace the position that we cherish the right to buy a gun if you're capable of buying a gun, and we deplore loose gun environments in which someone like this murderer, this monster is able to on his 18th birthday walk into a store and buy an assault weapon, a weapon of mass destruction. i don't understand why the nra doesn't embrace that position. to make themselves more credible in crisis circumstances like this. >> and what is your message to the politicians who obstructed action on gun violence in this country? the governor of texas, greg abbott, was just asked about raising the age for buying an ar-15 style assault rifle. he essentially said he was against it, didn't sound open to
other new gun control laws. what is your message to the governor of texas and others who essentially say the same thing? >> raising the age of -- for the ability to buy a weapon of mass destruction is the least we can do. apparently in the state of texas right now, you can buy an assault weapon at the age of 18, but you can't buy a six-pack of beer. that makes absolutely no sense. and you know, the big picture problem here, and the reason i mourn for america today, is because of our inability, our unwillingness to do anything about this plague. it happens over and over and over again. we're getting to the point now where it's happening almost weekly. and we fail, we refuse to address the problem. and the problem to put the label on it plainly, is the prevalence of guns in america. i don't deny the right of a responsible gun owner to have a gun. there are circumstances where a responsible gun owner should have a gun.
i do, however, have a serious problem with the inability of our lawmakers to even address the most basic simple gun measures. and i hesitate to say this, jim, but i think that we need a game changer here to change the political environment. maybe we do need an emmett till moment. now, for those of you who don't know who emmett till was, he was a 13-year-old boy in mississippi in 1955 who had the temerity to say something sassy to a white woman, which you don't do if you're black in mississippi in 1955. he was lynched, he was tortured. he was beaten, he was shot. his mother wanted the world to see what his murderers had done to her son and she had an open casket funeral. there were photos. it changed the world, it probably sparked the civil rights movement. you know better than me that photographs say a million words. whether it's this incident,
whether it's rodney king, whether it's george floyd, whether it's the vietnam war. and i hesitate to say that it's somehow the public obligation of a mother or a father to display the autopsy photos of her murdered child, but on the other hand, look at it this way. the child you just had on, the 11-year-old who witnessed the execution of her teacher and who will go to grief counselling for the rest of her life, was forced to witness up close and personal that tragedy. why is it that that child has to see this but lawmakers who threw their inaction or action permit this environment to exist can walk away and not have to see vividly the consequences of their actions or inaction? and so i think we need something dramatic here to finally make a difference. otherwise, this is going to go on and on and on. >> these children are changed.
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gut-wrenching trauma of tuesday's shooting. >> still sad about some of my friends died. >> who were your friends? >> tess, annabel, basically some of them. >> what would you tell your mom? >> i left my water bottle. >> she hugged me first, she was like yeah! >> our chief psychiatrist for texas at the children's hospital. karen, watching those kids is incredible how strong they are and recounting something that's absolutely horrific. you are leading a trauma response team, you will be helping these uvalde survivors, these kids who have been through so much. what do they need most right
now? >> right now they need the adults that are in their lives to be able to provide stability and support, and comfort. to be able to answer questions that they have but also not push too hard to have them talk about things that are really incredibly difficult. >> 19 children, two teachers gone. what is the most important thing at this stage for their loved ones, would you say? >> i would say for the adults for the loved ones to get support where ever you can get it, whether it is from your extended family or partner or community, making sure you have somebody who's helping you to take care of yourself so that you can also take care of other family members who also experienced this terrible tragedy. >> and these school shootings, they shape parents and kids across the country. what do you have in terms of advice for the caretakers out there wondering how to reassure their kids right now and
whatever age they are. i am sure parents across the country have had the conversations with their kids as we speak. >> i think the most important thing is what you just said, have the conversation. unless you have a very young child assumed that they have heard something or know something, even if it is something terrible that happened. make sure you let them know you are open to having the discussion and answering any questions they have, to share your own feelings about it in a development tally and appropriate way. as parents, we are sad and scared and worried. some of us are angry and all of those feelings are okay. >> what about the long-term consequences for these generation of students lived through these shootings. it is hard the get your head around for what they'll be living through for decades. >> absolutely, their lives are forever changed and the lives of
their family is forever changed. that does not mean a life sentence struggling to function or to have a wonderful and happy life down the road. it is about what do we do now to set kids up to recover and resilient but also identify children who are struggling more and who needs the help that they need. >> a lot of these young people will be fighting for change. they'll be putting their feelings into action. >> karin price, thank you so much for jyour time. we appreciate it. coming up, g governor greg g bo abbott says he was absolu absolutely --
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breaking news, the texas governor declared he was misled after police making a damming mistake of the school shooting. officers made the wrong call when they failed to confront the gun panman gunman. young survivors mourn ed th deaths of two teachers and the students. how the teacher looked at the kids in the eyes and she was shot. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around
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