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hello, welcome to our viewers in the united states, and all around the world, i am michael holmes, appreciate your company. 77 minutes. that is how long it took police to end the texas school shooter's rampage, leaving 19 children, and to teachers debt. that is according to the timeline released by officials. it is going to the hallway, and the children inside the classroom, who is holed up, and called 9-1-1. top police officials, now, admit that it was a mistake to
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not engage the shooter, earlier. have a listen. >> why was this decision made, to not go in, and rescue these children? >> the on scene commander, considered a barricaded subject, there is time, and no more children at risk. of course, it was not the right decision, it was the wrong one, period. >> parents of the victims, outraged, understandably, at these missteps. with one father, telling cnn, he wonders if his daughter, and others, may have survived if authorities acted more quickly. we now know the names, and faces, of all 21 live shot to cut short, with funerals begun next week. this is going in and lavandera picking up the story. >> i was misled. i am livid about what happened. >> explosive reaction from the texas governor, to new reactions from law enforcement
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response in the days of the evolving shootings. >> the information i was given turned out, in part, to be inaccurate. i am, absolutely, livid about that. it is imperative that they're trying to happen, and is getting down to the very seconds of, exactly, what happened, with 100% accuracy. >> the governor's press conference, coming after the texas department in the safety said, police were wrong, and waiting to go in, and eliminated active shooter. after a certain killing students, and teachers. >> the wrong decision, period. this is an active shooter's certification. here, the officer lines up, stacks up, goes to find when those rounds are being fired at, and keep shooting, until the subject to state. period. >> with an active shooter, with according to officials, made by the school district chief of police.
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>> the answering commander at the time was believed, that, in fact, it was a subject in, there is no kids at risk. >> admission comes after he laid out the timeline, that day. 11:27 am, a teacher, he said, propped open a door to go inside, and grab herself and then, the gunman fired shots into people, near the school grounds. >> shots fired at the school, 11:32, 11:33, the suspect began shooting at a room, 1:11. three police officers, entering the same door that the suspect entered. >> gunfire continued, well as many as 19's in the hallway, but they didn't go in the classroom, until a janitor brought the keys. second grader, edward still, those in the classroom, when the shooting started. >> if there is something that would stop them. it's kind of like fireworks. >> just after 5:00, the 9-1-1 calls came from a child, inside
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the classroom, where shots were fired. >> identifying herself, she whispered, she's in room 1:12. at 12:10, she called back, and room 12, advised multiple were dead. 12:13, again, she called on the phone. again, 12:16, she called back and said there is 8 to 9 students alive. there was a 9-1-1 call, you could hear three shots fired. at 12:36, a 9-1-1 call, they lasted for 21 seconds. it is a student child, and she told 9-1-1 is approximately 12:33, and two police and the police. . >> it inside the classroom, her and said, she had to save herself. >> mia got him blood, she put it along herself, to pretend she was dead. >> by the time the tactical team breach the classroom, and killed the shooter, he had been in the room for more than an
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hour. >> the texas governor who's misled, and they would not say who gave him the bad information. it is going to reach the uvalde ist. the police chief, not being able to find him. they did us the superintendent with the city mayor, and the ist police chief should resign, or be fired. both will be answering that question. ed lavandera, cnn, uvalde, texas. >> we're tired of supervisory and special agents, steve moore. it is hard to know where to begin on this. -- >> one top i'm from the kids as gunshots are going on. kids are still alive. how could that even happen? >> it can't. if they had followed active shooter protocol, none of that
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wouldn't have been true. when you have three officers in the hall, the minimum you go, it is one. if you get to, you feel good, if you get three, you are doing well. those officers should have continued down, towards the sound of the shots, and eliminated the shooter. the problem with him saying, we didn't think more kids were alive, that was 45 minutes after they had stopped doing what they should have done. >> exactly. meanwhile, that was in the last of the shootings. what do you think that's kids died because law enforcement and neck properly? some are being shot, of course. but also, the wounded in their, are not being helped or being played out. >> let me tell you, i responded to one active shooter at a school, and the shooting was over, and the shooter had gotten off the property, almost immediately. i believe that 5 to 7 people,
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five of them shot, five of whom were five years old, and one of them wouldn't have lasted another five minutes. the rest of them, i doubt, would have lasted 30. so, for them to delay an hour, i find it hard to believe that lives could not have been saved. as you said, there's another round of shots at 12:20 or so. those kids would not, have even been injured. >> really, it justifies belief. . it's interesting. the press conference, today, as we all listened to, it was lengthy. the sobering fact is, it was shorter than the time the shooter was in those classrooms, shooting kids, while for much of that time, police were literally outside. what failures do you see, with how law enforcement responded? what needs to change? >> like you said, earlier, i don't even know where to start. there is a policy. by the way, i want to say, to steve macron, the director of
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dps for texas, thank you for being honest. thank you for being brutally honest, and painfully honest it took courage but, everything, everything was wrong they are all trained they are all trained an active shooter response. you go to the sound of the shooting, he stopped the shooting what do we do if the people we have trained will not go in? that is the main thing. why have a policy, if you won't follow it? secondarily, you could put higher power guns in the car, maybe some better ballistic protection, but, the main thing is, go do your job >> and the texas lieutenant governor, dan patrick, of the massacre, said that evil will always walk amongst us. that is true, and mental health, is almost always, raised on the situation. but, only in the united states does evil, and the mentally ill,
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have, virtually, unfettered access to military style, high powered rifles, high powered ammunition. can you see a need for that to change in the u.s.? he was equally matched with the cops. >> except for numbers, he had firepower superiority over them. but, no reasonable person can look you in the face, without giggling, to say we don't need to change this. obviously, the mentally ill, the schizophrenic, the violent, the felons, they cannot have access to any types of weapons, much less stuff like this. that must change we, as a nation, need to find middle ground. both sides have to move towards the middle, and we need to invent some ways of finding threats that are out there,
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prohibiting, and sequestering them, from having firearms. >> there are no semantics or minerals in the world, it's just access to guns. . we are going to hear, and the united states, but from all around the world, from those outside of this country, they do not understand the ease of gun access, the lack of rules, and things like that, like concealed carry. there are jurors in many states. teenagers by weapons like ar-15s before it is legal to have a beer. there are more guns and people in the u.s.. how do they convince their guns, and guns culture, an american society? the rest of the world shakes their head. >> i can understand that. >> i don't think quick i could, adequately, explain someone who has lived in the united states, and learned what our culture is like. i can't explain pick up trucks. i can't explain so much of the american society. but, this is ingrained. it is interwoven in our inner
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culture. now, many americans consider the thing that makes america free for them. it is part of their view of america. and it's ingrained in this society. everybody, around the world, has seen a western. those are just fictions based on the real world back then. >> so many of these mass shootings, and i tweeted at the time, i'm horrified. but i'm just not shocked anymore. maybe another one steve, we have to leave it there, unfortunately, good to see you, appreciate it. >> thank you >> a fourth grader, it is chilling detail, and would saw that tragic day. listen to cnn producer, norah news, who describes her exclusive conversation with 11-year-old me as surreal. >> she says the shooter looked one of the teachers in the eye and said, goodnight, and then
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shot her. then, he opened fire, shooting the other teacher, and a lot of her friends. she heard screams, and then heard him shooting in that classroom. heard a lot of gunshots. after the shops stop, though, she says, he started playing music. that music. i asked how you would describe it and she said, it was just sad, like you want people to die. she said, she put her hands in the blood of a friend who, late next to her, who is already dead, and then, smeared the blood all over herself, all over her body, so that she could play that she told me, she assumed the police just weren't there yet, but then, afterwards, she heard the grown-ups say, the police were there, but waiting outside. it is pretty stoic up until then, and they didn't understand where they didn't come get her. why wouldn't they come in.
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>> too scared to speak on camera, or to a man, by the way, after her horrific experience. entirely understandable. she did want to share her story, and hopefully, help prevent this from happening from other kids. >> urgently, it is firepower, to stop russia's advance. it is a battlefield in the west, and they agreed to send him, and the latest in the war. we'll be right back.
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local residents are readily identifying some of the russian troops they say are responsible. cnn's melissa bell with that. >> russian tanks entering the village of lupita in late february. now in charge here of life and death. six weeks later, now back in control of the village, ukrainian authorities begin counting the dead. i can't look, says one mother. it was only after the withdrawal that ukrainian prosecutors were able to start piecing together would have happened. they now suspect these men of crimes in violation of the rules and customs of war. >> on this street, nine soldiers of the 64th brigade
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imprisoned unarmed civilians. they detained and tortured them for ten days, inflicting bodily harm and carried out mark executions. >> we wanted to see for ourselves where some of these alleged crimes might have been committed. going door to door with pictures of the soldiers, we meet andriy who recognize as one of them. is it locked? he leads us down to a stellar where he says russian soldiers tried to kill a group of men and women who had been hiding. they used grenades and rifles, he says, but the civilians managed to survive by heading further into the darkness. this is the scene of just one of the alleged crimes of the men of the 64th brigade. it is littered with cigarettes and bullet casings. back in lupita, we show nicholas neck, a resident a picture of commander -- he recognizes him immediately. and invites us into what is
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left of his home. he and his family hit in the woods, he says, while his home was destroyed by the russian artillery that killed his neighbor. when he tried to come back he says the commander seemed surprised. he said what do you doing here? you should have been burnt alive. nicholas still doesn't know why he decided to let him live. >> -- they wanted to scare civilly ends. scare the citizens, towns, villages, cities. >> after withdrawing from the bucha area, the brigades men were promoted by moscow. the kremlin denies any involvement in the mass killings. the 64th brigade was created after the georgian war according to ukrainian intelligence. bob the soldiers of this
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brigade, he says, were noted for their robberies and rapes, but instead of bringing order to the brigade, the russian command -- with modern weapons and scented into ukraine. beyond working out exactly with the russian soldiers who occupy this area north of kyiv might have been responsible for, the big question for ukrainian prosecutors know is where they are. khan until they could figure that out exactly, of course, erica, they continue to gather >> internment camps, forced relocations and accusations of cultural genocide. that's all happening in the occupied parts of eastern ukraine, according to sources familiar with western intelligence. they believe hundreds of thousands of ukrainians are being sent to what russia calls filtration camps. suzanne -- there saga is nothing short of horrifying. >> people here and those who are able to escape the war, the
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war torn areas early, they say they are the lucky ones. their friends in their family who are left in the eastern part of the country are going through what is called the filtration process. it is a process of dehumanizing, humiliating in controlling the ukrainian people, who are in those areas now. they say, what they are doing is absolutely horrific. that family members are separated oral from other relatives. they are stripped, interrogated, beaten, fingerprints are taking, in their cell phones, as well as their documents, all of their social media is gone through. with the russians are trying to do is determine whether these individuals are sympathetic to the ukrainian government, to the ukrainian military. if, in fact, to the civilians pass this filtration test, they get a certified -- a certificate cross and perhaps visit with their family or come
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back. there are many who are still in these areas, now in the hundreds of thousands, is estimated, that don't get any explanation and are not able to get out. human rights watch, as well as western intelligence are confirming these reports, -- the state from human rights watch saying that ukrainians do not necessarily have to be thrown on a back of a truck but many are put in a situation where they don't have a choice. you get on the bus and you go to a filtration, and then to russia, or you die in the shelling. these are -- forbidden under the laws of war. they say, this is a violation of international laws, it's a war crime, and they continue to take place here throughout ukraine. >> susan malveaux there. more than 37,000 people are on the run following the latest fighting in the democratic republic of congo. the norwegian refugee council
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says they offered their homes over the past five days. that's when fighting picked up between government forces and m 23 rebels in the mineral rich eastern part of the country. the seemingly endless conflict has left more than five and a half million people internally displaced. there is outrage in brazil after a video in viral showing a man dying in police custody and a warning to viewers, this footage is difficult to watch. the video appears to show a man being this fixated inside a police car. and one of the clips, -- are seeing place -- into the trunk of their suv. and then, as you can see, with the rear hatch close, the vehicle fills up with an unknown gas or smoke as creams are heard. the widely shared video sparked a protest in the city of limbaugh on thursday. federal police say the 38-year-old man, quote,
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welcome back. our top story, there's outrage and confusion in texas, after officials again revised the details and timeline of tuesday's horrific shooting at robb elementary school. on friday, authorities revealed that 77 minutes past between the time the gunman entered the school, to win a tactical team finally enter the classroom, where the 18 year old gunman was hold up, with children into
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teachers. we've also learned that while officers were waiting in the hallway, students walked inside the room with the shooter, we're calling 9-1-1, pleading for help. officials now admit, mistakes were made, while the -- he's infuriated by the misinformation. >> i have a bit of hindsight, where i'm sitting now. it was the wrong decision. very wrong. there's no excuse that. i wasn't there, but i was telling you, from what we know, we believe there should have been entry as soon as you can. >> i was misled. i am livid about what happened. >> no, the two funeral homes in -- say they will cover arrangements for all -- 19 children into teachers whose lives were cut far too short by gun violence. now, despite the mass shooting
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days earlier in uvalde, the top gun lobby and rifle association forged ahead with this annual convention in houston just a few hours down the road. cnn's jeff zeleny reports, passions flaring inside and outside the event. >> shame on you! >> in the nation's bitter divide over guns, a tale of two americas is on display in houston. outside the convention of the national rifle association there's protesters of all ages, pleading for an end to the string of deadly massacres. outside the hall, thousands supported the second amendment and praised politicians who say guns are not the cause of the slaughter. >> unlike some, i did not support you by not showing up. >> some backed way from attending the meeting, but former president donald trump showed his support. he read a list of victims with a tolling bell between each name.
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trump took the stage to lead with god bless the usa. lee greenwood chose to stay away out of respect for the families, the site only 300 miles away from the nra convention in downtown houston. despite outcries of protest, the show went on, with trump leading the charge to change the subject. >> if the united states has 40 billion dollars to spent ukraine, we should be able to do whatever it takes to keep our children safe. >> texas senator ted cruz rejected new gun control measures, reiterating his call to fortify schools with police officers or retired service members. >> we must not react to evil and tragedy by abandoning the constitution or infringing on the rights of law-abiding citizens. >> fellow texas senator john cornyn declined to attend the
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nra meeting and has pledged to at least have an open dialogue with democratic senators searching for solutions to the epidemic of gun violence. former texas congressman beto o'rourke, now the democratic candidate for texas governor, said it was time for all americans to unite behind a solution. >> you are not our enemies. we are not yours. we extend our hands, open and unarmed, in a gesture of peace and fellowship, to welcome you, to join us, to make sure that this no longer happens in this country. >> while a majority of american support some form of tighter gun restrictions, the view of longtime nra member elizabeth thom underscores the sentiment echoing through many conversations here. >> i know this may be somewhat controversial -- and i certainly don't want to hurt anyone's feelings. but if any of those teachers had been armed, this may have ended a lot better. --
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>> -- they were the manufacturers of that ar-15 used in the shooting. there is simply an empty state with their vendor was supposed to be, where there stand was. the company said they did not think it was an appropriate time to be selling their merchandise. instead, it's replaced by popcorn stand. jeff zeleny, cnn, houston. >> ron brownstein cnn political medalist and senior editor with the inland take. he joins me now. good to see you, ron. let's talk about the republicans. mitch mcconnell has given us out the go-ahead to participate in talks on gun legislation. what does history teach us about what republicans actually do versus say, until, inevitably, the focus shifts away from the late is outrage? how much is short term fear to fend off -- >> that's exactly what it is. historically, we have been on this ride before.
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opponents of gun control -- one of their potent weapons is delay. to try and push back action, to engage in discussion that allows the immediate firestorm to dissipate. i would say, the overwhelming length -- this will -- these conversations in the senate -- if they do it will be something at the very bargain of ten dental evidence. they were not ten republican votes -- which is 90% supportive times. it's hard to believe that there are ten votes -- >> it's interesting. you mention that statistic. i was reading a 2018 poll by guns down america that advocacy group. if found, 67% of americans -- overwhelming majority, including republican support things like requiring a license
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-- even gun buyback programs. explain for those watching, why so many elected representatives who took that poll won't do any of those things. >> look, i think gun control really crystallizes a broader problem that we are experiencing in the u.s., which is the crisis of majority rule. as you note, there is broad public support for many of the stabs gun control advocates want to take. that doesn't mean people think that limiting access to guns is going to completely eliminate the problem of gun violence, but they think these are steps worth taking. two thirds of the country in poland, just this week, as well as last year, so not necessarily influenced by immediate events, supports a ban on assault weapons. roughly two thirds supports a ban on high capacity magazines.
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these ideas are supported not only by a majority of democrats, including democratic gun owners, by a majority of republicans who don't own guns. the only large group in the country that opposes these are republican gun owners. yet, what is happened, as the republican party, broadly speaking, has grown more dependent on rural and small town areas. more dependent on the culturally conservative supporters. the nra has essentially won the argument in the party that any action to restrict access to guns as a sign of disrespect for the cultural values of america. as a result, this -- the republicans dominate have a veto or a national policy with the fall buster to prevent the national majority of opinion -- >> ron always, good to see you. thanks so much. >> thanks for having me, michael.
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you are looking at pictures taken just outside robb elementary school in uvalde, in texas, where people have love flowers, plenty of flowers. you see the crosses as well. it's in remembrance of the 19 children into adults killed, when a gunman opened fire in their school. now, we want to keep our focus, of course, on the victims, their families, and those who have been affected by this horrific act of violence. have a look at those innocent faces. now, all 21 victims killed in the shooting have been identified in many of their funeral services are now set to begin next week. cnn's boris sanchez has their stories. >> three days after the 21 innocent lives were taken,
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we're learning more about the loved ones this small town is grieving. >> don't forget them, please. i beg you. >> miranda mathis was 11 years old. a friend of her mother's told the washington post that miranda was a fun, spunky, bright little girl. ten year old -- telling ksat he was a, quote, very intelligent, hardworking and help proportion. he'll be missed and never forgotten. -- also ten years old. her mother anna says, he dreamed of becoming a marine biologist and wanted to attend college at texas a&m. and touching facebook tribute, anna calls her daughter, sweet charismatic, loving, caring, loyal, free, ambitious, funny, silly, gold driven and her best friend. other victims names have been confirmed. leyla salazar, 11 years old.
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alicia romero has, and -- all just ten years old. in a tragic twist, the husband of irma garcia. one of the murder teachers has also died. according to the archdiocese of san antonio, joe garcia suffered a heart attack, after news of his wife's death and passed away on thursday. the couple had been married more than 24 years and were high school sweethearts. >> they came to mass every sunday. >> father eduardo morales of sacred heart church in uvalde knew the family well and greeted irma as she walked into service on sunday morning. he says, the couple were a fixture in the community and leave behind for children who he privately consoled shortly after joe's death. i >> told the community that -- when we've had a death, there was a church prayer that got us through. not that it takes the pain away. >> the garcias, among a list of
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some prominent figures in the sports world are being -- making headlines by taking a stand and demanding change after the horrific texas cool shooting. san francisco giants manager, gave caterpillar is one. he says he will no longer come onto the field for the national anthem. he told reporters that he doesn't think america is living up to its ideals. >> i don't plan on coming out for the anthem going forward, until i feel better about the direction of our country. that'll be the step. i don't expect it to be moving the needle but it's something that i feel strongly enough about to take that step. >> he's just one voice among many. cnn sports andy scholes looks at how other athletes and teams are demanding action from washington to --
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of gun violence. >> in the wake of what happened teams in sports figures have been using their voice to advocate for change. warriors head coach steve kerr was very emotional, demanding politicians do more. >> when are we going to do something? i'm tired -- i'm so tired of getting up here and offering condolences to the devastated families that are out there a. we are being held hostage by 50 senators and washington, who refused to even put it to a vote, despite what we the american people want. they won't vote on it because they want to hold on to their own power. it's pathetic! i've had enough! >> on wednesday, he did celtics held a moment of silence for the lives lost. in the public address announcer deliver this message. >> the heater diseases you to contact your state senators by calling two 022243121 to leave
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a message, demanding their support for common sense gun laws. [applause] you can also make change at the ballot box. visit slash vote to register, and let your voice be heard this fall. >> the warriors with a very similar message advocating for common sense gun laws before game five of the western conference finals. kerr again speaking out that day, saying, we need to think of gun control as a public health issue. >> for whatever reason, it's a political issue. but, it's really a public health issue. so, as soon as we can shift the dynamic to this being a public health issue, and then you get momentum. what i'm asking people to do is get involved in their local communities. i've got lots of friends who have democrats, republicans, all i know is that they all
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want gun violence to go away. >> the yankees -- meanwhile teaming up. instead of tweeting about their game, they presented facts about gun violence in our country. the rays adding, this cannot become normal. we cannot become numb. we cannot look the other way. we all know if, nothing changes, nothing changes. dodgers manager, dave roberts, says politicians have filled the country. >> how there can be a bipartisan consensus on an issue like this is very disheartening. it's very irresponsible by our nations leaders. something needs to be done, and be proactive about it. look everyone's said, enough is enough. one is enough enough? >> lebron james tweeting that there simply has to be change. has to be. while nfl networks rich eisen made a passionate plea for
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something to be done. >> we cannot give up. we cannot give up as a society, and we cannot give up on giving our two cents at keeping the pressure on those in power, who do nothing about it. children murdered in their classroom! murdered. in their classroom. and you're already seeing the responses from those in power, who refused to do anything about it, saying, it's about anything else, other than easy legal access to assault weaponry. >> sports teams and figures -- powerful to unacceptable change. they're once again using their platform to try and make a difference. >> andy scholes there. thanks for spending part of your day with me. i'm michael holmes. you can follow me on twitter and instagram at holmes cnn. stick around, all have more
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(camera shutters) the all-new lx 600. ready for any arena. ♪ ♪ hello and welcome to our viewers here in the united states and all around the world. i'm michael holmes. appreciate your company. 77 minutes, that's how long it took police to and the texas school shooter rampage, at a school that left 19 children and two teachers dead on tuesday. that's according to the latest timeline, released by officials. for much of that, time police waited in the hallway. even as a gunman fired more shots and children inside the classroom call 9-1-1 for help. as


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