tv New Day Weekend With Christi Paul and Boris Sanchez CNN May 28, 2022 5:00am-6:01am PDT
good morning and welcome to your new day. we appreciate you starting your weekend with us. it is saturday, may 28th. i'm boris sanchez, joining you this morning live from uvalde, texas. >> and i'm christi paul. and boris, i cannot get over the scene behind you and the conversations you are having with people as we just try to reconcile what's happened in the last ten days. >> it is incredibly heart breaking, christi. yet at this point, utterly predictable. we begin with the nation reeling from two mass shootings in just ten days. the nation coping with dual, senseless tragedies that defy reason and infuriate those pleadings with lawmakers to do anything to prevent them. today vice president kamala
harris attending memorial service for one of the victims in the mass shooting in buffalo, new york. ruth whitfield was one of ten people gunned down at a supermarket. authorities say the gunman in that shooting was motivated by racial hatred. and just two weeks after visiting the site of that shooting in buffalo, president biden coming here tomorrow to robb elementary school in uvalde, to yet again console the family's of victims at the scene of the latest heart breaking mass shooting. this morning, we're also learning minute by minute excruciating details of the tragedy that unfolded here with 21 dead, 2 teachers and 19 children, most no older than 10 years old. investigators now admit that mistakes were made in the response to this attack. including waiting to confront the gunman who opened fire inside of a fourth grade classroom.
80 minutes passed between the first 911 call, reporting that there was a man outside the school with a gun and the moment that a tactical unit finally entered the classroom where the gunman was holed up. we've learned that as many as 19 officers were in a hallway right outside the classroom as terrified students were calling 911, pleading for police to breach that room and confront the gunman. to bring us up to speed on the investigation, let's bring in cnn national correspondent jason carroll. been here from the beginning. what's the latest in the investigation? >> as you know, boris, it took a lot of pushing first of all to get authorities to finally admit that mistakes had been made. parents were out here asking, pleading with officers, saying why are you waiting to go in there? those of us in the media were out here asking some of the same questions. why were you waiting?
then yesterday finally we got some answers from steven mccraw, the texas department of public safety who basically explained why this incident commander, the person who was in charge, why he decided to make this decision to wait. saying that basically he had decided it was no longer an active shooter situation. that it instead had turned into a barricaded subject. and because that decision was made, they waited to breach the door. what they did was they waited to get tactical backup. and waited to get the keys from a janitor. >> decision was made that this was a barricaded subject situation. there was time to retrieve the keys and wait for tactical team with the equipment to go ahead and breach the door and take on the subject at that point. that was the decision. it was a wrong decision, period. >> again, admitting that that was a grave mistake.
while they were waiting, we do now know that children were calling 911 from inside that classroom, pleading, begging for officers to send police. and so now, boris, of course the question is that we're hearing from parents is accountability. who is going to be held accountable and what that accountability is going to look like. >> it's that discrepancy that i think deserves the most scrutiny, where parents outside pleading with police to rush into the building say they heard kids screaming. they heard what was happening inside that classroom. and yet the decision was made that this was now a barricaded subject scenario, not an active shooter. a lot of questions still to be answered. we appreciate you walking us through all of that. let's turn now to florida congressman, democratic congressman ted deutsche. he knows this all too well sadly. marjory stoneman douglas shooting falls in his district.
congressman deutsche, we appreciate you getting up early for us. i hate that we have to chat under these circumstances. but there was a lot of scrutiny over the law enforcement response in parkland and similarly now there's outrage in this community. i wonder in the context of your experience in parkland, what's your message to this community about the way that officials here responded? >> well, i know what the community is feeling now from the families that i've gotten to know so well in parkland. this is going to be a long process and day by day things are going to come out that are going to raise people's emotions. i hope that people of uvalde understand, just like my community came to understand, the way the country stood with them. ultimately they're going to want to make sure that there is accountability, if anything
wasn't done correctly, they're going to want to make sure that there's a full understanding of everything that happened today that led ultimately to the tragic deaths of their kids and loved ones. but, while that plays out, we can't afford to fall into this trap where we skip from subject to subject and miss the opportunity that we have to do something significant that can help prevent the next mass casualty we have, the next mass shooting. there's an opportunity right now for us to come together. we have to take advantage of it. that's what we've got now. and i know that the community will feel this pain for some time, but these -- all these years, almost five years later in parkland, the families are fighting everyday to make sure that laws are put in place that prevent another family from feeling what they felt or tragically what the families in
uvalde and too many other places around america feel so often. >> let's get into that congressman. there's been more than 30 mass shootings in schools just this year in the united states. you watched, as you noted, what happened in parkland, where there was outrage in the community. there was national outrage that led to this widespread effort to affect change, but it ultimately failed. how would you console the loved ones of victims we heard from here in uvalde who want substantial change who say they want to make this political when it's not clear that it's ever going to actually happen, the pattern is going to break. >> right. well, first of all, i want to respectfully reject the notion of failure after parkland. the state of florida, which is hardly known to be the most progressive state in america, passed meaningful gun safety legislation because people came together to do it.
in this case, it's pretty straight forward. we know what the issue is and we just can't get into this trap where we let the gun companies say that it's not about guns. it's about something else. it's always about something else. the answer is it's about everything. governor abbott is right. we need to surge mental health professionals into uvalde and every underserved community in america for mental health access. that's true. but at the same time, we've got to be clear if you have a violent history, you don't get to walk into a gun show and leave with a firearm. but if we don't check, we don't know. and then all of our kids could be at risk. that's why the senate should pass hr8. that's what it does. it's supported by the american people between 85 and 90%. and in florida, we know that just as you can't buy a handgun nationally if you're 18 years old, in florida, the age was raised to buy any gun to 21.
well, in this case especially, why should someone -- why should an 18-year-old who can't buy a handgun be able to walk in a store and buy an ar-15? so, we ought to raise the age to buy a gun to 21. that's got broad support. just one other one, the fact is that when a shooter is able to shoot off 30 rounds at a time, it's the most horrific thing that we can imagine. and we've seen it play out over and over. so we should limit the size of these magazines so that a shooter, god forbid they get into a school, has to change cart cartridges. it gives people the opportunity to try to save more lives. every time a shooter needs to reload, there's another chance to stop him and save lives. we could do that now, too. and last thing, if you've got firearms in your house, and you have small kids in your house, then you should keep your gun locked up. that's what safe storage laws are.
these are all things that are straight forward and they're not partisan and we can no longer let the gun companies convince, try to convince people that this is some big partisan issue. only in washington is this a partisan issue, not in the real world where people are dying on a regular basis because people who are a threat to themselves and their community are getting access to terrible, deadly firearms. >> congressman, i think that part of the reason that legislation has failed on a national level is because there are people out there who believe that access to these weapons is enshrined in the bill of rights. i'm wondering what your argument is to those who say that this is in the constitution and it is a right, not a privilege. >> no one -- no. that's the -- the biggest false statement in this whole debate.
the fact is that everyone understands people with violent histories shouldn't be allowed to get firearms, to buy firearms. there's no constitutional right for a dangerous person to have a firearm. we have laws in place that require a background check if you go buy a gun at a gun store. so, we have to close the loophole that says -- >> but yet, congressman -- forgive me. forgive me, congressman. i appreciate that you're saying if someone has a violent history they shouldn't have access to these weapons. the shooter in this case, those laws, any background check wouldn't have prevented him from getting those weapons. he got them legally and we can list a number of cases where background checks were either passed or either flaws in the background check system. i'm thinking of another shooting here in texas at a church just a few years ago. are background checks enough to prevent these kinds of massacres? >> no. here is what we always do, and it pains me when this happens
because it happens every time, we're always debating how we could have prevented the horrific loss of innocent life that just happened instead of thinking how we can prevent th next one from happening. no. background check law isn't going to save every life. it's not going to prevent every shooting. but people understand that if you can pass a law that will save lives and it will, may not have prevented this shooting but will prevent others just as the background check system prevents people with violent histories right now from getting firearms, we ought to do it. you know what would have prevented this, if you had to be 21 to buy a gun, then this shooter wouldn't have bought it. so let's do that. if that's the answer to that question. but again, it's everything. we ought to be doing all the things i talked about and we ought to be focussed on mental health and we ought to be keeping our schools safe and
having a clearinghouse where people can have access to the best information on how to keep their school safe and we ought to be using scientific data to help identify threats before they happen. so much of this is bipartisan. it's the same arguments that are being made by the gun makers every single time. thoughtful, rational people, which is frankly what most people in our country are when they listen to this, they get tired because they think it's all about politics. it's not about politics. it's about gun makers trying to protect their profits and the rest of us paying the price. that's what we have to come to terms with and then come together to do the things that every poll, includiing one from just a couple days ago, the american people want us to do. >> i certainly hope that even though these shootings appear to be coming more common and larger and more savage even in their scale and frequency, that people
don't lose hope that something could be done. that's it's not normalized. that it's not just another news cycle that comes and goes and perhaps something can actually come out of congress that will prevent the next one. congressman ted deutsche, we hope you come back soon and get into the weeds with us on this debate. we have to leave it there. we appreciate your time, sir. >> thank you for having me. >> of course. the end of the school year is supposed to be a time of celebration, but in uvalde, texas, just two days before the summer break, 21 families are preparing for funerals as an entire community is in mourning over the massacre at robb elementary school. >> reporter: three days after 21 innocent lives were taken, we're learning more about the loved ones this small town is grieving. >> don't forget them, please.
do something about it, i beg you. >> reporter: miranda mathis was 11 years old. a friend of her mother's told "the washington post," miranda was a fun, spunky, bright little girl. 10-year-old torres, his aunt telling ksat he was a, quote, very intelligent, hard-working and helpful person. he'll be missed and never forgotten. rodriguez, also 10 years old. her mother anna said she dreamed of becoming a marine biologist and wanted to attend college at texas a&m. in a touching facebook tribute, anna calls her daughter, quote, sweet, charismatic, loving, caring, loyal, free, ambitious, funny, silly, goal driven and her best friend, other victims names have also been confirmed. layla salazar, 11 years old. el rod, ramirez and carmelo, all just 10 years old. and in a tragic twist, the
husband of irma garcia, has also died. according to the arch diocese, joe garcia suffered a heart attack after news of his wife's death and passed away on thursday. the couple had been married more than 24 years and were high school sweethearts. >> they came to mass every sunday. >> father eduardo morales of sacred heart church in uvalde knew the family well and greeted irma on sunday morning. the couple were a fixture in the communities and leave behind four children who he privately consoled shortly after jo's death. >> i told the community that in my own family when we've had a death, that it's the church and prayer that has gotten us through all this. and not that it takes the pain away. >> reporter: the garcia, among a list of names of lives cut too short. eva mireles, anna rodriguez,
jacqulynn casarez, nevaeh bravo. elijah torres, names that will forever be etched in the memories of those touched and affected by this horrible tragedy. >> stay the nation. >> show him to the world. >> when he died. i died part with him. >> before we went to break, we wanted to leave you with the images of all 21 victims, always in the hearts of this community, always to be remembered, and hopefully the beginning of a change in this country. we'll be right back. stay with us. ♪
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♪ even amid the devastating tragedy in uvalde, the top gun lobby in the united states, the national rifle association, pushed ahead with its annual convention held in houston, just a few hundred miles away from here. texas governor greg abbott cancelled his in-person appearance and instead his remarks were prerecorded for the event. >> yeah. former president donald trump and other gop leaders that did attend rejected efforts to overhaul gun laws. actually mocking democrats along with activists who are calling for change. here is cnn's ryan young who is in houston with more. >> reporter: yeah, boris and christi, the emotions are running high outside the convention center. more than 1,000 people showed up for a rally to show their support for banning assault weapons. you can feel the emotions from
those folks who say nothing is going to change. ♪ ♪ proud to be an american ♪ >> reporter: former president donald trump rallying with the national rival association as it holds its annual meeting after 19 children and 2 adults were massacred in uvalde. >> the existence of evil in our world not to ban law asiding citizens can protect a lot of people. the existence of evil is one of the best reasons to arm law-abiding citizens. >> reporter: instead of new gun laws, the former president calling for more focus on mental health and school security. >> what we need now is a top to bottom security overhaul at schools all across our country. >> reporter: those arguments echoed by others who addressed the nra's annual convention in houston, including texas senator ted cruz. >> we must not react to evil and
tragedy by abandoning the constitution or infringing on the rights of our law-abiding citizens. >> reporter: the nra condemned the uvalde shooting but decided to press ahead with its gathering. though several musical performers and elected officials cancelled appearances in the wake of tuesday's shooting. >> nra- >> go away. >> nra. >> go away! >> reporter: across the street a crowd of protesters gathered outside the convention center. >> i'm looking at you, the nra today. i don't want any more of my peers to die in a school. >> reporter: outrage over the high profile republican speakers the meeting attracted. >> shame on you. shame on you. shame on you. >> reporter: former texas congressman beto o'rourke, the state's democratic nominee for governor, joined those outside the venue calling for action. >> the time for us to stopped uvalde was right after sandy
hook. if you have done anything good, it is the fact that you have brought us here together and that we are committing ourselves to act. >> reporter: texas governor greg abbott was initially scheduled to appear in person but sent a video message instead. >> there are thousands of laws on the books across the country that limit the owning or using of firearms. laws that have not stopped madmen from carrying out evil acts on innocent people and peaceful communities. >> reporter: yeah. you can see some of the signs that protesters left behind. look, they're tired of all the talk and back and forth. they said they want to hear more concrete answers for how things can change, but that hasn't happened as of yet. and those emotions kept running high as the night went on. boris and christi? >> ryan, thank you so much. republican senator john cornyn, who is leading republicans in bipartisan talks with democrats in congress to find a middle ground on gun reform legislation said thursday that discussions among the group
were, quote, just getting started and democratic senator joe manchin, who was in on that meeting, said so far it's been, quote, very encouraging. cnn's daniela diaz on capitol hill this morning. are you getting a sense from senator manchin that something is different this time around? >> reporter: he said it himself when he talked to reporters after meeting with this bipartisan group on thursday. he said, of course, you just quoted him. he called it very encouraging. but he compared to talks after sandy hook shooting, also very horrific. he said, quote, i was here in 2013 after the sandy hook shooting and getting people to participate back then until pat toomey stepped forward wasn't anyone jumping forward. he's really implying that republicans weren't eager to start discussions with democrats on some sort of gun safety legislation or some sort of legislation that could help combat any future, horrific shootings. a pattern in this country that we've seen again and again. of course, this comes after
senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, the top republican in the senate gave his blessing to senator john cornyn, the senior senator from texas to start these discussions with democrats. democrats of course being very eager to pass some sort of bill in the senate, but they need at least ten republicans to sign on to any legislation to break that 60-vote threshold for the filibuster. other than that, if they don't have the ten republicans to sign on with every democrat signing on, no bill can pass. now, i do want to reference that there is such a contrast between what senator john cornyn is doing, of course, participating in this bipartisan discussion on some sort of gun safety legislation versus what senator ted cruz, the other senator from texas, is doing. texas, of course, being where that horrific shooting took place at that elementary school. take a listen to what senator ted cruz said was to blame about this shooting, not faulting guns but everything but. >> ultimately, as we all know,
what stops armed bad guys is armed good guys. we must not react to evil and tragedy by abandoning the constitution or infringing on the rights of our law-abiding citizens. >> reporter: christi, i really want to emphasize this shows there's still such a divide within the republican party on how to handle gun safety legislation with, you know, senator ted cruz and senator john cornyn really showing that divide with cornen, of course, participating in the bipartisan talks and senator ted cruz still saying that gun legislation does not need to happen, that everything but is the reason to blame for the shooting. so it's going to be a really uphill climb, a long shot, for democrats to be able to get ten republicans on board. but they're going to try any way. christi? >> daniela diaz, thank you so much. and you highlighted ted cruz.
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shooting at robb elementary school, texas governor greg abbott insists the focus should instead be on mental health and providing resources for different communities. even though that doesn't exactly jive with his track record. cnn's nick watt explains. >> reporter: governor greg abbott isn't talking at all about gun control, but he does talk a lot about mental health. >> anybody who shoots somebody else has a mental health challenge. period. >> reporter: this is the press conference the day after those 21 murders in uvalde. >> we, as a government, need to find a way to target that mental health challenge and do something about it. >> reporter: nearly five years ago after 26 were slaughtered in a baptist church in sutherland springs, he told cnn this. >> one of the challenges we have to deal with is not just evil but also mental health challenges. >> reporter: today nearly five years later, mental health
america 2022 access to care rankings puts texas dead last. governor abbott clearly has other priorities. just a month ago he diverted half a billion dollars of mostly covid relief surplus funds to what he calls the disaster at the southern border while taking a political pop at president biden's open border policies. and he said this, texan's safety and security is our top priority and we will continue fighting to keep our communities safe. but, undocumented immigrants have substantially lower crime rates than native-born citizens states a recent academic study of texas, the most aggressive immigrant removal programs have not delivered on their crime reduction promises and are unlikely to do so in the future. to be fair, operation lone star does also target illegal drugs, seeping into texas, but in the
meantime, at least 388 people have been killed in mass shootings in texas on governor abbott's watch, while he has rolled back gun restrictions. so, briefly back to that nearly half billion dollars diverted down to the border in texas, it was taken from various different government departments and they were essentially then reimbursed with surplus covid relief funds. now, the governor took more than $200 million from the department of health and human services. and that led some people to say, hang on, is he taking money away from health care? his office tells me that is, quote, completely inaccurate. the department itself tells me that all of their healthcare programs are fully funded. budgets for health care, men tal health care have shown a modest uptick over the past couple years. the governor's spokesperson also tells me he works hard to increase funding and access to
mental health care in texas, but don't forget that league table, texas ranks last in the united states for access to mental health care. nick watt, cnn, los angeles. >> thanks to nick watt for that report. listen, we're going to get some more insight from experts on the investigation into the shooting, including questions surrounding the delayed police response. that's going to be all day right here on cnn. we're also going to be sharing stories of survivors and honor the victims by hearing those who loved them most. stay with us. "new day" continues after a quick break. ♪ tart my enclave. starting your r buick enclave. i i just love our new alexa. dad, it's s a buick. i love that new alexa smell. it's a buick. we need snacks for the team. alexa, take us to the nearest grocery s store. getting directions. alexa will get us there in no time.
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♪ 42 minutes past the hour. the defense production act has been invoked for a third time this week in an effort to get baby formula back on store shelves. nestle for one says it plans to ship 40% of a ger ber formula for baby who are allergic to cow's milk to retail stores by the end of the day tomorrow. dannon food company says half a million cans of its specialty formula should get to families in the first half of july. still a long time away. this formula shortage is a real crisis for my next guest as well. and here is why. i don't know if you heard about this, but two of her sons were born with a metabolic condition that requires them to be on medical grade formula.
that formula can only be supplied through the manufacturer. she says she's felt helpless because she found out it was on back order and she hasn't gotten any more just yet. those are pictures of three of her boys, two of whom have this problem. alexa is with us now. alexa, thank you so much for taking time to talk to us. listen, anybody out there who has had to be responsible for children understands the fear that would be coming to you day by day right now. help us understand the necessity of this formula for your children. what would happen to them if they didn't have access to it? >> yeah. so this formula is medical formula. it's medically necessary. they'll be on it the rest of their lives everyday. they have a condition called pku. they can't process protein. so, you know, everything has protein in it. so this formula has all of the other amino acids besidies the
one part they can have. this isn't anything anyone can find on the internet. it literally shipped to us from our dme, from our -- right from the manufacturer. however, that all works. but it's really important because within a few days they can definitely start losing their brain function. so, i mean, they can become severely impacted. their brain just acts like a neuro toxin and goes in their bloodstream and starts attacking their brain. so it's really important that they get it. and right now we don't have any. we have a two-week supply left. >> have you heard from the company in terms of when you might be able to get some of this? >> so, yes. i've actually, you know, we were in the "people" article and i heard from a lot of different companies. unfortunately this is just out. it's not available. even the director of north america of the entire company cannot get it for me. so if she can't get it for me,
nobody can get it for me. it's not just me. we're lucky we have a two-week supply left. there are other families i talked to that we sent some of our formula to that are on half doses, which is insane. she was telling me how her son was acting out in school and all these crazy things. no. you can't be on half doses. i'm going to send you what i can. so we're all pulling together to try to do the best we can, but we're running out. it's time -- the clock is running against the clock right now. it's really -- and they tell us it's about to be a month or so. it could be two weeks until it's ready and then another two weeks until we actually get it. for whatever reason. so, our clock is ticking for sure. >> but help us understand what you're feeling right now as a mom. because i'm nervous for you. i'm nervous for them. i feel helpless. how are you? >> it's a constant state of anxiety. you know, it's crazy. i think i've gotten a lot of gray hairs the past three weeks.
i mean, every day i look at them and i'm like, oh my goodness, what can we do for you? i've literally done everything i possibly can and everybody reached out and tried to do this. everybody is like fly to canada, fly over here. it's made in new jersey and shipped to those places. it is not -- it's nowhere to be found. so they're having issues with the raw materials or whatever it is they are having issues with. and it's not available right now. it's not even made. so, we're feeling the ripple effects. it's crazy. >> i was reading there is, some people have resorted to a black market community for this. is that correct? >> yes. so, i mean, our community has been very great to each other. like i said, we've shipped what we could to other people. you know, it's probably not the safest since this is medical food and it is medically required. and different things could be different amounts of protein. so it needs to be done under a doctor's orders. but you know, we're not going to let anybody in the community
have irreversible brain damage because of this. we're all banning together and all working hard and trying to connect what few of us there are. there are not many people in our community. we might be small but we're super strong and all trying to back each other up and trying to make sure everybody has what they need. but soon enough, there's going to be no more. >> alexa, please keep us posted. please keep us informed. we are praying for you and we hope those -- that little one is so sweet. just take good care of each other. yes. we're pulling for you. please just keep us posted. we want to make sure you're okay and your whole community is okay. cannot imagine. >> yes. thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> of course. thank you. alexa with one of her three sons there. we'll keep up with her, i promise. so this weekend, you know is the unofficial start of summer. temperatures are feeling like it in a lot of parts of the country. stay close. we'll tell you what's happening.
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