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warm that has become all too familiar. the president and first lady trying to comfort the city grieving from a mass exodus. the first lady knelt to the images of the innocent smiling 4th graders who were murdered in their classroom. the president caressing the face of one child's photo. just 12 days ago, the bietdens w bidens were in new york for a recent attack in a supermarket. yesterday, vice president kamala harris comforted the oldest victim of that attack. across the country this weekend, there have been another explosion of gun violence. today in texas, the president was met with shouts of "do something." >> do something.
do something. >> president biden responding to the shouts of "do something" with quote, we will, we will. of course, we are covering all the angles, lucy cavanaugh is focusing on a country seeking answers. let's begin with you, lucy, at that memorial, uvalde's town square so many families are suffering with trauma and heart break. how did the community respond to the president and governor? >> reporter: well, the focus, people la, is really on the victims, the 19 little boys and girls who lost their lives alongside the two teachers. you mentioned the word trauma. i have been thinking about these concentric circles of trauma that get formed in the aftermath of a mass shooting like this. not just for the victims and their families. for the community as well. we have seen people streaming in all day in the 100 degree heat to pay respect to those who lost their lives. also on the unsung heroes.
the first responders, trauma nurses and doctors who are tasked with keeping the drivers alive. my team and i were able to get access to the trauma unit keeping the victims alive as we speak from the uvalde shooting. it's taking a personal toll. these are very well trained doctors and parents. yet as parents and humans, they are impacted. for them, pam, it's not their first mass shooting. >> get the glide scope in there, please. >> reporter: at san antonio university hospital. >> all of us were in there when they came in. >> reporter: doctors and nurses prepare to receive the most critically wounded. it's one of the busiest trauma centers in the nation. >> you have your light? >> okay. perfect. >> reporter: and cnn got exclusive access inside as pediatric members and the team
demonstrated preparations for a mass casualty event. >> anesthesia is here. go ahead, get up there with kelly so we can back her up in case it becomes a difficult airway. >> reporter: this is a drill. >> this is one of the teams that we formed on the day of the mass casualty event. we formed multiple teams such as this. >> reporter: but it wasn't a drill on tuesday when the teenage gunman in robb elementary in uvalde, texas, murdering 19 children and two teachers, injuring at least 17 others officials say. >> it's devastating. i think the same thing that every other person in this country is thinking, you know, how horrible their last moments were. right. and what that scene looks like. >> reporter: the trauma unit prepared to receive dozen of uvalde's wounded. >> the blood has been checked. >> reporter: the nurse davis recalled the agony wait for patients and overwhelmed
realization. >> after a while, you start realizing more aren't coming. you realize why, the weight of that sets in and it stays with you the rest of the die and all the days after. >> reporter: four of the victims were brought right here to university hospital. three little girls and the shooter's grandmother. the doctors, nurses, working here, it unfortunately wasn't their first mass shooting. less than five years ago, a gunman slautsd 26 people at the first baptist church in southern oaks springs, 34 miles southeast of downtone san antonio. >> none of us anticipated that we would be involved in yet another mass casualty event. it's not something we imagined. >> reporter: trauma nurse christa flores was working alongside in 2017 as patients wounded in the church massacre began to flood in. she can't believe it's happened
again. >> i immediately like got this horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. basically, it was even in the same location where we >> reporter: she is haunted by the lives the team couldn't save. >> keep repaying things in my brain why what if they got here 30 minutes after the first notification? probably would have saved a lot of people why what ifs. what ifs. >> reporter: like many of the colleagues, flores is also a parent. >> just turned 6 and in kindergarten and today is his last day of school and i have a 1-year-old. it is hard. >> reporter: the doctor says she copes by focusing on the good. the team, her family and little ones. >> that's what you want to amplify. at a time like this is amplify
being grateful and the kindness that the world shows rather than focusing on the negative because that can really put you in a wrong place moving forward. >> reporter: she breaks down when talking about the invisible scars the surviving children will carry. >> i kind of thought back to -- when i was 10 years old. and -- so when i was 10 years old my family emigrated to this country. and my biggest challenge was learning to speak english and you just can't imagine what these children are going through. and it is really unfair. it is really unfair. >> reporter: pam, the trauma centers across the country
support each other. you see the huge banner from aurora suffering a mass shooting in 2012 signed by the nurses and doctors in support. they themselves sent out banners across the country including to florida why the pr woman at the hospital breaking down in tears off camera saying i don't know how many more banners we have to make. >> we'll speak to a doctor about how parents should talk to kids about this. how can kids process this. all the questions as we just field the strong emotions from this awful shooting there in uvalde. thank you. we have seen evidence that gun violence never stops in america. cnn is tracking it all. what is the latest?
>> speaking with the gun violence archive this group keeps track of mass shootings. when four people or more are shot in a single incident, that's a mass shooting. we are already at at least 220 mass shootings including 2 that happened over this weekend and also tracking two officer-involved shootings. let's talk with taft, oklahoma. police saying they have now a suspect in custody following a person shot and killed, seven others shot and all happened a the a memorial day weekend festival with some 1500 people. it was supposed to be fun. a suspect in cust did. within the last half hour. then chattanooga, tennessee. just a mile from the tennessee aquarium six people were shot
including two with life threatening injuries. listen to the mayor about who's involved. >> here's the bottom line. teenagers acting out and getting into trouble is not new. kids have gotten into scuffles. it is a tale as old as time. what's new is they have access to handguns and firearms. >> there seems to be so many people on edge right now because of the shootings and ones most recently. look at this scene inside the barclays center in new york city. you can see people yelling and running. right? people were saying an active shooter. new york city police department telling cnn there was not a
shooter. there was a sound disturbance and people thought that they were in the mid rs of an active shooter. that is what's on so many people's minds right now. pamela? >> it is. nadia, thank you. patrick hickey was working at a uber driver in chattanooga. he was on the ground administering aid to a victim and police are looking for the person that fired the shots. thank you for joining us. walk us through what happened. >> it was just a normal night for me. i was waiting on the knicks ride and 45 to 50 yards behind me it sounded like a shot and then two dozen. there were young kids and teenagers. running, some tripping on the
ground. not knowing if they were hit themselves. after that settled down and the shots started i got out of the car. one of the victims about 15 feet from my car. grabbed a shirt from the trunk and started to put pressure on that victim and somebody said there were two more victims around the corner. one with a head shot wound. >> it was a regular night for you. picking up customers and then this. i think there's distress and disbelief about the shootings. one after another. you know this personally. did you think you would be in this situation? >> not at that part of chattanooga in the day. there are thousands of families out there, women and children, out there playing near the river
park enjoying the day. that point of night you don't expect it with the night life that chattanooga has and it was a shock to me why not a rough part of a neighborhood. it was pretty much right there in the heart of chattanooga. it was a surprise not just to me but other people as well. >> no one is immune from being involved in some capacity in a mass shooting. you were helping to treat the victims. but you know, you could have been in the wrong place at the wrong time, too. that is the reality we are living in. do you have a message people? >> it's just watch around you. stuff like this at schools and grocery stories and in the heart of the vibrant city of tennessee something like this happening,
just talk to the family and the kids. teach them respect about weapons and respecting other people and pressure the politicians to get something done. it is hard to take the guns from the criminals but there are steps to take to make sure that something like this doesn't happen again and i don't want it to sound like a broken record. something needs to be done. >> it does. i myself remember several years in a nice part of town that like you said always families out and about. nighttime and there was a shooting a block away from me and we thought is that what we think it is? sure enough it was. once you go through an experience like that you realize, wow, like it could happen to me no matter where i am and the time of day. just awful that this is the
reality. patrick, thank you for coming on and sharing your story. >> thank you. have a good one. >> coming up, a conversation all parents need to hear. ho the director of the national center for school center and bereavement joins us now. next.. grillin', chillin', spillin', dillin'. bec-ing. never brie-ing. smokin', yolkin', flippin', dippin'. if you're not oozing, then you're losing. tater totting, cold or hotting.
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one of the children trying to cope with the trauma of what they went through. many parents around the country are at a loss how to talk about another mass school shooting with the young children. dr. schoenfeld at children's hospital in los angeles is here to help us with that. hi, doctor. over 30 years you have traveled to schools as part of a recovery effort. what have you learned to parents that wonder if they could talk about the violence with someone so young? >> certainly. first thing is they should talk with children about this particularly because most have heard about it. and so we want to make sure they know the adults provide support. >> is there an age though? starting at age 6, 7?
do you have any advice on that front? >> i tell people that as long as children are old enough to have a conversation they should have the conversation. >> okay. >> i responded to this shooting that happened in colorado in the theater and worked with the school system and the question came up about what age to start with and i remember there was a parent working there and she had a young child about to start kindergarten and didn't want to let him know and didn't have a conversation over the summer and then mentioned at dinner they could see a disney film and the son said there's someone shooting and killing people there. he told her that he had overheard it at a swimming lesson in the pool. so the point is you can't
protect children from information that everyone is talking about. you can only protect them -- not really prevent but prevent them from coping. >> the first inclination is to try to ease the fear to tell them everything will be all right but kids face the potential threats that can't be brushed aside. there will be another school shooting. what should a parent say instead of don't worry? >> first off find out what the child is afraid of. because if we try to offer reassurance without asking then really all we are doing is tell them why we aren't afraid. start by finding out what the child's fears might be.
they can be different than the parent and i would avoid saying don't be worried. if they worry we need to allow them to have the feelings and we should help them figure out how to cope with the distress. >> so very quickly what would you say to the little boy on cnn who said he was at the school there in uvalde and heard the shooting and probably said there will be another shooting and what kind of coping mechanism do you advise? >> it's obviously more complicated and significant when the child is involved but parents need to try and express overall a hopeful perspective why they need to acknowledge they have fears themselves and talk about what they do to deal
with them. parents need to realize while the events should never occur they are still fairly rare events and so you emphasize what's being done to keep children safe epa why you feel it is okay for them to return to school and then go back to how do you feel about? whalgd make you feel safer? >> thank you so much. that's helpful. >> thank you. after the tragic shootings people say things need to change. we never see it. a reality check on guns. can republicans and democrats find common ground to get something done to stop all these mass shootings? man with peach. words s of wisdom. a millllion custom framed piecs and counting. you can framebridge just about a anything. (fisher investments) in this market, you'll find fisher investments is different than other money managers.
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once again the pressure is on for lawmakers to do something about america's gun problem. that's not new. it happens every time there's a mass shooting and seen a lot of them in this country but there's something about the incident in uvalde showing us possible cracks in previously staunch positions. >> i'd like to see a restriction on assault weapons. improvements on the background checks and a red flag law. if somebody exhibits to law enforcement to a probable cause to commit an act of violence against themselves or others that they can have the weapons taken from them for a period of time. >> 99.9% of people that ars won't walk into a school and do this but for those that support
the second amendment we have to come to the tables to mitigate the 18-year-olds. i have opposed a ban fairly recently. i'm open to a ban now. >> is it too much to hope that there's room for compromise on capitol hill this time around? joining me now for this discussion is alice stewart and keisha lance bottoms. former mayor of atlanta. in the conversations you have with democrats do you sense an opening here to work with republicans with moderate steps to prevent future shootings even if it's not what democrats ultimately want? >> i do think there is an opening. my sense is that everyone recognizes that there will have to be compromise on both sides. we know that previously the
senate passed an assault weapons ban. 1994. that was passed by then senator joe biden. i would be very surprised if we get that far this time but i think everyone recognizes that the country's calling for even the smallest steps of improvement whether in background checks or other areas to agree on and it's important to signal that congress is willing to work together. >> there's second amendment posturing in your party. let's listen about the attempt to expand red flag laws. >> we are trying to do with the red flag law is enforce the law before the law is broken. it's difficult to assess a threat. if they threat with a weapon already they have broken the law
so why do you need another law? >> is most of the party with crenshaw? this is obviously a key thing that lawmakers are looking at. >> most of the party is in the understanding that we are in a new era and new time and need to make changes and encouraged we had mitch mcconnell to take the lead. and they do want to see change. i'm reminded of very compelling statement that mayor bottom said last year with a mass shooting in atlanta. when there's a crime against a community there's a crime against us all. republicans i'm talking to say yes we need to come to the table. there are discussions being made. emails distributed.
conversations had by members of the gop. they are not in session right now so nothing can happen until they're in session but looking at this not as much of a gun control issue but recognizes this is a complicated problem that needs a solution and looking at certains a -- aspects of this but mental health. making schools safe and law enforcement train jg willing to negotiate and needs to be a compromise on both sides to have a change. >> we'll go back to what gun control measures could be on the table. keisha, what are the issues that democrats are flexible about? do you think this is a different time? republicans and democrats talk and then the time passes and the
attention goes elsewhere. so nothing happens. do you think this time is different? >> i do believe this time is different and the country is fatigued. we had a mass shooting in buffalo, we saw a mass shooting in chattanooga yesterday evening and almost now a daily 0 kirns and with children involved it is a different level. this is the moment that leaders are elected for, to make difficult decisions. it is difficult to speculate on what will be compromised on but the american people need to understand the notions will happen behind closed doors and is sometimes appropriate with complicated issues and optimistic that something positive will come from this
awful tragedy. >> alice, we have a listing of mass shootings with legally purchased guns. several recent mass shootings from people under 21 buying ah-15s and engaging in a mass shooting. where could republicans be most flexible? >> there are many areas that they have already agreed in prift to look at. expanding background checks. an integrated system with the mental health community as well as the law enforcement community and there are shared intelligence with people that are selling guns and making sure that there are background checks dub at gun stores and gun shows. that's an important come pro- innocent and looking at there have been already in some state it is red flag laws that i
support. i think that's a good first step. more at the state level and banning bump stocks i think is important and looking more closely at the sales of ar-15s to people that are 18, 19 or 20. these are all issues that could have an impact and make a difference and most republicans that i talked to said they're willing to have the conversations because enough is enough. >> there's a federal law that says you can't buy a handgun until you're 21. dan crenshaw was on basically saying, look, it is a slippery slope raising the age to 21. will you raise it then when a 22-year-old engages in a
shooting? >> i would just remind people as it relates to assault weapons that if the assault weapon ban had been in place then this shooter would not have access to the weapon. they are weapons to kill in the way that this gunman carried out the killing of innocent children and teachers. >> i would just say real quickly i believe if a mad man wants to get a gun and commit such a tragic incident they will do so. we need to make sure to take every step to make sure that they don't get guns but law abiding citizens have the second amendment right to bear guns. >> 400 million guns in this country. this conversation will continue. thank you. we'll be right back. problem so
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russia invaded. but when the bombs started to fall she kept rolling and keep a video diary of what they were experiencing. she and the kids moved into a basement shelter and never knowing if they would survive through the night. i met her a couple weeks ago in kyiv. when i realized the video she shot it was an extraordinary thing. it is very intimate and poignant and personal and she is lovely and caring. this is a brief clip. in the morning against all odds kyiv is still in ukrainian control. >> the latest update is that we are alive. i am alive.
this is katerina. she is sleeping. on the floor. yes. some other people in the shelter woke up. it is already morning. more than 7:00 in the morning. katia and connor is sleeping on the sofa. it is very important that we survived this night. now the day has come. at night everything looks much more scary for people. so as you can see even many people left the bomb shelter because it is more than 7:00 in the morning. >> reporter: many in kyiv are leave jg long lines of cars clog the roads heading west. train stations around the country filled with families trying to get out.
elaina decides she and the kids will stay. >> i feel safe here. the chances for us to die here in kyiv are equal to the chances for us to die on the road. so we are. and another thing. i want my children to be alive, of course, but both physically and spiritually. i want them to be strong and free. >> reporter: her husband brings supplies for his family. he's volunteering to fight despite having no military training. he leaves quickly to rejoin his unit .
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that, you know, people who are struggling to pay the bills, people who live in rural communities, communities of color, young people, are going to have the hardest ability to get access to care. >> well, the mississippi court case that will decide the fate of abortion in the u.s. is still pending at the supreme court. the late culinary icon julia child has been inspiring at-home and professional chefs with her unmistakable voice and light hearted approach to cooking for decades. the new cnn film "julia" tells the story of the legendary cook who techanges the way people people about women and the chef. here's her story. >> she is beloved and fascinating and so entertain, but what i think what drew us to this story was julia unexpected
importance. when she burst on to television with the french chef in the early 1960s she really blew america's taste buds and americans' minds. she was introducing us to whole new worlds? she certainly was. >> betsy, one thing viewers might not have an appreciation of is just how much food and cooking in america changed because of julia child. what did a typical dinner in america look like right before julia took off? >> well, i can tell you from personal experience, a lot of frozen food, you know, canned mushroom soups, salads, processed food, and not very good ingredients. americans were not eating particularly well before julia child came on the scene. >> and given julia's emphasis on fresh ingredients and fresh technique, you might expect her to take cooking very seriously, but reality is, julie, she wanted cooking to be fun and
approachable for everyone, right? >> well, yeah. she really struck that balance so well. on the one hand she was so entertaining. she would make mistakes. you'll see it -- you'll see it in our film. things areifying all over the kitchen, tasting as she goes and cracking jokes. she's hilarious and approachable, but that said, behind it, if you were watching that show, you were really learning serious stuff about the technique of food preparation. french cooking and all of the basics. you know, she was really serious about food and a great teacher as well as an entertainer. >> thanks to julia cohen and betsy west. tune into the all new cnn film "julia" that premiers tomorrow night at 8:00 p.m., 7:00 eastern right here on cnn. you are in the cnn newsroom on this sunday night. finally we pay tribute t to the
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♪ ♪ e the war r in ukraine is the largest conflilict in europe sie world war ii. the russian invasion to overthrow ukraine's government and take control has become a grinding war of atrying. tonight we want you to see the war through the eyes of one ukranian mother. her name is olena gines. she's 36 and lives in kyiv. she was a tour guide before the invasion and posted videos about her life and country on a utube channel she called "what is ukraine?" when the war began, she continued to dock you'll her family evenings appearance sleeping in a basement shelter, never kn