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>> hello, everyone. i'm pamela brown in for kate balduan. welcome to a holiday edition of "at this hour of the" here's what we're watching. outrage and mourning. a new video adds to the questions about the uvalde police response to the school massacre as the community gathers for services to honor the victims. momentum swings in parts of ukraine. russia emigresing a new strategy in the east hitting ukranian troops with strikes described as, quote, maximum intensity. and holiday headaches. gas prices hitting yet another record and creeping higher with millions of americans on the road. and we begin this hour with a new video and new questions about the massacre in uvalde, texas. this video obtained by abc news is from the scene of last tuesday's shooting, and it appears to include dispatch audio informing officer on the scene that a child is calling 911 for instance side a classroom in the school. take a listen.
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>> we have a child on the line. he is in a room full of victims at this moment. >> cnn has not been able to independently confirm that video, but source of this video sun clear, and it's also not clear at what point in the incident that audio is heard. cnn has reached out to authorities. but we do know that texas authorities, what they said on friday that there were at least eight 911 calls that day from at least two separate callers inside the school over a span of 50 minutes. this all comes as the justice department announces it will investigate the police response to the shooting. and meantime the community will hold its first services for two victims of the tragedy later today. we'll have more on that in a moment but first let's get straight to cnn's paula reed live for more on this investigation and the new doj's
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role. what do you know with the doj's involvement? >> that's exactly the kind of evidence that the doj will want to examine as it conducts its review. this is not a criminal investigation. the justice department has many tools at its disposal and they will analyze the law enforcement response to this shooting and try to figure out exact hi what wrong and make recommendations for best practices for other law enforcement agencies going forward. now, this review is actually specifically requested by the city's mayor. not surprisingly seeing how much scrutiny local law enforcement officials have been under for the response to this shooting and also these conflicting timelines and conflicting accounts that we've gotten in the wake of this tragic event. at this pain the "is really the only entity that can come in incredibly suss out what happened here. this review will be conducted by the office of community-oriented policing and it's conducted similar reviews into how police
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responded to the terrorist attack in san bernardino as well as the pulse nightclub shooting. now, pam, i reviewed both of those reports and here's what i think we can expect from this investments investigators will want to go to the scene. they will want to talk to any first responders. they will want to talk to people who witness who had was going on during this time. they are going to want to talk to victims. there are also likely to hold some group talks with members of the community to talk about the relationship between police and the community and then analyze everything they find and issue a final report, that it's unlikely that this again, not a criminal investigation, not even a civil rights investigation like they conducted at ferguson and chicago. it's unlikely that this will fully satisfy those who are grieving and those around the world. >> hopefully there will be lessons that they will be able to lay out. thank you so much. the first two funerals for the 21 victims in uvalde massacre take place today. there will be a visitation and
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rosary for 10-year-old anne marie garza and services for 10-year-old maite rodriguez takes place this afternoon. we go live to uvalde, texas. what more can you tell us, adrianne? >> reporter: we're learning so much about the 19 children who died on tuesday. specifically i want to talk about the two who will have visitation and their rosary services today. anne marie jo garza died with the cell phone in her hand that she got two weeks ago on her 10th birthday. she died by trying to call her classmates in 911. in the photo linked to her obituary she's wearing a beautiful violet dress but the fun, sweet, sassy little diva hated wearing dresses. however, she wore them. she loved meals from chick-fil-a and her favorite drink was a
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vanilla bean frappuccino from starbucks, almost like a milk shake, doesn't have coffee. she wasn't alone. her classmate maite rodriguez had a favorite drink from starbucks. hers was the mango dragon. her mom wrote on facebook saying her little girl was competitive, especially in physical education and she was ambition. she wanted to become a marine biologist and that's in part due to her love of animals and studying wildlife. she was recently named on the honor roll and had a fascination for school and study. behind me you see folks have gathered here at the memorial which is in the heart of the city just a few short blocks away from the school. we've seen people here almost every day before sunrise when we show up in the morning. they are here kneeling, and when
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they approach one thing that's easy to see is the glow of the candles. also, many of those candles are scented giving off a sweet smell that's perhaps healing for this community in deep sorrow. pam? >> adrienne broaddus, thank you. president biden is vowing to take action on gun reform but admits there's only so much he can do. his comments one day after he and the first lady met with the families of the victims in uvalde. cnn's jeremy diamond is live at the white house with details. jeremy, what is the president vowing to do on gun reform? >> reporter: listen, pam, president biden arrived in uvalde, texas, hoping to comfort some of the families that are grieving the loss of their chin in the wake of the mass shooting in text yeah, but he left vowing to do something about it as he was confronted by that community with calls for action in the wake that have shooting. todayp president biden reaffirming his desawyer to get something done on gun reform and
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expressing some very cautious optimism. >> the pain is palpable, and i think a lot of it is unnecessary, so i'm going to continue to push and we'll see how this works. i think things have gotten so bad that everybody is getting more ration balance it. >> reporter: even as the president has said there he believes people will get more rational about things, he hasn't yet talked to any republicans engaged in negotiations since that shooting in uvalde, but he did say that he thinks that there are some rational republicans, like senator mitch mcconnell, the majority leader an senator john cornyn, two of whom he specifically mentioned, who he think may be willing to get something done. we know that senator mcconnell directed senator cornyn to engage in the bipartisan negotiations led by senator chris murphy, a democrat from connecticut, and murphy seems to
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think there is potentially some movement here, at least more movement, more discussions with republicans than there have been at any point since that sandy hook shooting nearly a decade ago. pam? >> all right, jeremy diamond, thank you. joining me now is a former secret service agent and also with us, cnn national security analyst julia kaym, a former assistant secretary for the department of homeland secretary. good to see you both. julia, let's start with you. let's start with the new dispatch audio obtained by abc news. in it you can hear someone information officers on the scene that a child is calling 911 from inside the classroom where the victims were. >> yeah. >> what is your reaction to hearing, that confirmation that the dispatch operator was relaying those calls on scene? >> aware. this is what the review is going to determine is at what stage did that call come in? what did the dispatcher do actually and did that information get to the people on the ground, but it also i think
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confirms why active shooter protocols are as they are. i mean, in other words, 20 years ago as we learned after columbine but certainly in all the mass shootings since there's so much information, so much communication, so much room for error that the only thing we do know is that by elimination the threat quickly you will save the most lives, and i think in some ways all these -- this information, however horrifying, simply confirms that the original sin, well, the -- the gunman is the original sin but the original mistake was in not activating active shooter protocols which would have stopped all of the second guessing, stopped all of the decision-make, stopped all the did they get the phone call, did they get the information? we know that the situations are very confusion, so it -- it really does reconfirm that mistake in not treating this as an active shooter case in which
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it's just rapid response, you're not thinking, all else can be solved after, right? everything else can be solved after. >> yeah, jonathan, what's your take on this? what questions does this raise for you? >> well, pam, in modern policing, active shooter protocols are a basic tenet. it's caught in the academies and in in-service training. it's constantly reinforced because we know the successful outcome of a rapid response. the first priority of any responding officer is to stop the attack and the killing that's in proges. aggressive action by officeers is absolutely critical. why? because they need to move that gunfire. they need to shift it away from defenseless victims, children who are in a classroom to themselves. why? because they have the training, the tactics and experience to address that threat. those defenseless children in
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those classrooms had nothing. they were relying on the police. they -- the law enforcement has a moral and ethical responsibility to go in at all costs using any resources available to stop the killing in progress. >> and what strikes me, julia, and, again, we're waiting for the full report to come out and i'm sure there's much more to learn about this. it's in the as though -- you know, this was more than an hour that they had time to think about, okay, what can we do? there's a gunman in this room, you know. even if you think maybe the gunman, the children were dead, you have to assume, right, that perhaps some of them are playing dead or perhaps some of them could -- if they get immediate medical attention they would survive, and this leaves us with this haunting question of had they gone in sooner, could more kids have survived? >> yeah. >> on that note, tell us about doj and what it's going to be looking at in its review of the police response? >> right, in the reporting that
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led to us is absolutely accurate that the community-orienting policing office is the one that's doing it. it's essentially a training and grants office that has done these after action reviews, mostly in terrorism cases so this is going to be unique. as we say in disaster management or crisis management, this is just your typical, very atypical and horrific after action review and what it does is -- it -- honestly, it lets the dead speak in a certain way. we will learn how each individual child died, how the teacher died, when, what was the impact of various bullets, at what stage, you know, we're going to transpose that against the phone calls, against physical evidence, against the testimony of eyewitnesses and -- and, of course, the surviving children, so it's going to provide really i think just horrifying in some ways accounting, but we do it to learn lessons, of course, and -- or to reinstate the lessons we
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already knew which is there should be rapid response but also i think for the family members. it's not enough to say your child died with 16 others. i think we do owe it to -- to let -- to have each individual child sort of, you know, through this review, their story will be told, and it's -- it's a very difficult process, very emotional, of course, and that's why it's not linked to a criminal investigation because you want to be able to tell this narrative. in disaster management we tell you the lessons are on the headstone and that's what's going to happen and i think it's going to be very, very difficult and emotional but absolutely important and i was really pleased that the mayor asked doj to come in. >> jonathan, you told my colleague jim accost that, this could turn out to be one west worst police failures in modern u.s. history. could lives have been saved, do you think, if police had made different decisions that day? ma what needs to be done to make sure that something like this
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never happens again? >> well, first of all, i'll reinforce that. yes, i do believe that this is absolutely one of the worst police failures in modern u.s. history, and we have to take this -- this incident, and we have to learn fromterm and the left lessons and improvements that we can make are only going to come from the after action in this, you know, critical review, and it's -- you know, looking at every single law enforcement entity involved but also the entire public safety response, right, ems, other first responders, how did they communicate with each other? we saw the untrained eye just watching the raw video where you'll see confusion. that's just a catalyst for why we need this type of review because the incident command structure broke down. it broke down on many different levels, the concentric circles out from the critical site broke down. had you parents would were grieving coming very close to the critical incident site. all that have stuff needs to be
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reviewed, and we need to learn from it. we need to take this horrific incident and try to learn from it so we can prevent this from happening in the future and have a better response should it ever occur again? >> and the sad part is given the rate it will likely happen again. if you look at historically in the u.s. over the past several years, it will likely, but also, you know, let this not overshadow, as you pointed out, julia, the original sin of a troubled 18-year-old going and buying two ar-15s and going into that classroom and killing those cakes. julia kaym and jonathan wackrow, thank you. the uvalde consolidated school system has created a memorial fund to help families of the victims at robb elementary. you can find more information about how to donate to the fund at well, sadry there were several more mass shootings over the weekend, reminders of the crisis that our nation is facing over gun violence. in oklahoma, one person was
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killed and seven others wounded in a shooting at an outdoor memorial day festival. authorities say the suspect has turned himself in. and ins a adds, a shooting at a house party left one person dead and five others injured. residents in a phoenix neighborhood report waking up to a barrage of gunfire. six people were shot in downtown chattanooga, tennessee, leaving two of them with life-threatening injuries. police say it started after an altercation between two groups of people. and then in henderson, nevada, a shooting at an interstate in broad daylight left stefan people injured. police say the suspect is still at large. and coming up, russia is making advances in parts of eastern ukraine. an ominous development in the war as president zelenskyy visits the front lines of one key city. a live report live from ukraine up next. d, no matter how much i paid, it followed me everywhere. between the high interest, the fees... i felt trapped. debt, debt, debt. so i broke up with my credit card debt anand consolidated it
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a e turning now to the war in ukraine. heavy shelling in the southeast of the country as russian forces continue their brutal attack on the donbas region. russia's foreign minister says liberating the area is russia's top priority. cnn's matthew chance is live in kyiv. matthew, what's the latest there? >> reporter: yeah, a lot of fierce fighting, pam, taking place in the eastern part of this country, particularly in the northeast around the city of donetsk which has become a real focal point, russian forces deploying large amounts of equipment and force to overtake ukraine whose forces are holding on the at the moment but there's a progression of forces into
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that area. politically important for the russians because they will be able to say that once they capture donetsk, they control the whole of the luhansk region which is half of the donbas. the russian foreign minister said capturing the donbas sass military priority for russia. there's fighting take is place elsewhere as well. south of the country, the ukranians have launched a counteroffensive, so while the other fighting is taking place, ukranians are striking at areas that the russians have already captured, striking some quite bitter blows it seems against russian forces killing more than 60 russian soldiers, according to ukranian officials and capturing some territory and destroying some military equipment as well, and so there is a lot of fighting take place in the east of ukraine but it's eck and flowing between the two sides, between the ukranian and the russian forces. pam? >> all right. matthew chance, live for us in kyiv, thank you. joining me now is cnn military analyst retired general
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major dana pitard. what happens if russia succeeds in taking control of the donbas? >> good morning, pam, on this memorial day remembrance. if the russians take the donbas region that will be a huge whether to ukraine. as matthew chance just mentioned, in war momentum ebbs and flows. certainly the russians initially have momentum when they attacked in february but quickly lost that. their defeats around kyiv and kharkiv and now the russians appear to have momentum. as they have learned lessons, they have concentrated their forces at certain points. the ukranians cannot defend everywhere in the donbas region, so the russians look for weak points and they master forces and move through. the coordination the russians have with their agent, their ground and artillery and mechanisms equipment has improved greatly since the
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beginning of the conflict so the russians are now moving into the donbas region. they are trying to take the province of luhansk and right now the directions are hitting it from three directions, east, north and south. can the russians take all of the donbas region? i still think that is doubtful. >> hmm. tim us more about this key city, what is that so important in the russian strategy? >> well, it's a key city because it's the last largest remaining city in luhansk. it juts out, if you look at a map, to the east in luhansk. the russians are hitting it hard from the east, but they are trying two different pincor movements, one from the north and one from the south. if they are successful in taking the area, it will be very difficult for the ukranians to hold on to the rest of luhansk
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province. >> and then what do you think -- say russia is successful with -- with taking over at least some of the donbas region, what then, do you think? >> i think what the russians will do is claim victory, quote, unquote, victory, but it will be very difficult for them to hold on to the region. now, they certainly consolidated their gains from their attacks in 2014. in eastern ukraine but it will be very, very difficult for them to hold the terrain that they are attempting to capture. they will need more forces than they deployed to take the terrain, and the ukranians are never going to yield and allow their tear rain to be taken. they are just not going to stop. that's why they need more help. >> yeah, and you heard president zelenskyy saying ukraine will reclaim all russian-occupied
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territory. we've seen just how strong their will, is right, to keep their -- their homeland. do you think that's realistic? >> well, it's understandable. i mean, if someone took into, north carolina and georgia and south carolina, we'd be pretty upset and we would say this will not stand and we will ensure that we take that territory back so it's understandable what the ukranians' desire is and certainly their will. their ability to do it right now is -- is more limited. they are going to need assistance. they are going to need the equipment, they are going to need the multi-launch rockets, the mig-29 aircraft, need more support from the west and nato. >> we heard that this week or last week from the white house that it was considering sending these longer range rocket systems to ukraine, systems that could potentially fire into russia, and then this morning president biden told reporters i won't send anything that can fire into russia, so can ukraine
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win the war without these kinds of weapons? what's your reaction to that? >> i think it's doubtful that ukraine with win without those weapons and i think both the united states and nato need to stop the driblets and drips of equipment. they need to give them the equipment that will give them ability to take the terrain and send a message to russia that this will not stand. >> thank you very much, general, and thank you for your service as we mark this memorial day. >> thank you. coming up, millions of americans are traveling this holiday weekend and whether it's by plane or by car people are facing serious travel headaches. details in a live report up next. a brand new iphone 13. (dad allen) we've been customers for years. (dad brown) we got iphone 13s, too. switched two minutes ago, literally right before this. (vo) iphone 13 on us. on any unlimited plan. for every customer. with plans statarting at just $.
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recall chesa boudin now. millions of americans are hitting the road this holiday and facing record high gas prices again. the average cost for a gallon of regular gas is now $4.62. and that's not the only travel
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headaches for vacationers. airlines have cancelled over 2,000 flights since friday. cnn's pete muntean is live at reagan national airport. what have you heard from people traveling today? >> this is a huge test for the airlines, not only the first major travel rush where we did no have the transportation mask mandate in place but also airlines are cancelling flights because they are facing major worker shortages. look at the latest data from flight aware. 331 flights cancelled today and since friday, 736. the tsa has screened 2.1 million people per day. these numbers are about 90% of where we were back in 2019 before the pandemic, and the tsa says as the summer drags on we could see numbers actually higher than pre-pandemic levels. i asked transportation secretary pete buttigieg about it.
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listen to what he says when i asked him whether or not airlines are up for the challenge now. >> we saw a lot of airlines during the pandemic thinning out their schedules and thinning out their workforce not knowing when demand was going to return. now, faster than expected the demand has come roaring back and they are struggling to keep up. that's true whether we're talking about flight attendant crews, whether we're talking about pilots and so we've got to make sure that we've got short-term and long-term approaches. >> one of those short-term solutions, delta airlines is proactively cancelling flights in the month of july shedding about 100 flights a day from its schedule. remember though that memorial day is really more of a driving holiday. aaa anticipated 34.9 million people will drive 50 miles or more over the five-day memorial day travel period, and this is all coming as people are really shelling out for gas. the national average $4.62 for a gallon of regular, and even when you put that against inflation, we are at the highest level we
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have seen for a gallon of regular gas since 2012, memorial day ten years ago. >> wow. that puts it in perspective. >> pete muntean, thank you. we're also monitoring the first hurricane of the season. agatha is the first hurricane of the season. they will be active along mexico's fishing coast. some areas could get up to 20 inches of rain. coming up on this memorial day. hero moms doing their part to feed as many babies as they can as the nation's baby formula shortage continues .
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. major covid news out of china. authorities in both beijing and shanghai are now relaxing restrictions as local cases continue to drop. everything from malls to restaurants and museums are starting to reopen. cnn's selena wang live in beijing, so what's the latest there, selena? >> well, pamela, people here are
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feeling a mix of relief and caution because our lives here in beijing are still very much restricted even though you've got some public venues like these malls and parks starting to reopen. the capacity is very limited and visitors have to show proof of a recent covid test in order to enter and also in-restaurant dining is still banned. i've had a test daily and have had to scan a public health code in order to gain access. authorities through this health app which virtually everybody in china has, they can track our movements and easily contact trace when a positive covid case is later found. now it's worth keeping in mind that all these restrictions remain here in beijing despite the capital which has more than 20 million people reporting over a dozen cases on monday. china still very much sticking to its zero covid policy. in fact, officials just today saying that one new covid case
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in a beijing district, just one, led to 300 people in his building getting sent to government centralized quarantine. it led to 5,000 people in his community being forced to quarantine at home, and it led to 2 million people in his district being forced to work at home. still across china, there are more than a dozen cities under some form of lockdown impacting more than 120 million people and, of course, chang high which is china's wealthiest and most cosmopolitan city, that city is finally cracking open the seal on a two-month brutal lockdown and the desperation and hopelessness that people faced in shanghai for months is going to have a permanent scar. >> easing restrictions but not business as usual. thank you so much, selena wang. the world health organization announced this morning that there's no current concern that monkeypox will cause a global pandemic of right now 22 countries are reporting
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cases of the disease including 14 confirmed or suspected cases here in the u.s. biotech companies and health officials are now looking to make pcr testing for monkeypox more widely available to americans. labs currently use more generalized tests for orthopox virus including moaning ponks and smallpox and other virus us. they are looking at ways to get specific testing out to the states. and now a look at the baby formula shortage across the country. 70% of formula products nationwide are out of stock at some point during the week ending may 22nd. that's up from 45% the week before and about 5% at this point last year. well, desperate parents wait for store shelves to become full again, there are some moms that are stepping in to help with their own breast milk. cnn's seen medical correspondent elizabeth cohen joins me with all the details. tell us about this, elizabeth. >> pam, these women are quite
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amazing. they saw the shortage. they don't need formula. they are breast feeding their children or they are -- they have older children, but they are stepping up and literally giving of themselves, of their bodies in order to help these families, so let's first meet marie milan. she is a nurse in oregon. she's breast feeding her 6 moll, but she's pumping and donating to a milk bank to help families who can't find formula. in one day, in one day she donated more than a gallon of milk. hillary demon, a filmmaker and professor in pittsburgh sh. she's nom 1-year-old hillary. she said if i can pump i'll give to other people and cory callahan. cory is a very, very interesting situation. she has three daughters, but she stopped nursing the youngest a year and a half ago so she has not had milk for a year and a half, but with the help of the
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la leche league she's trying to re-lactate, trying to bring the milk back so she can donate near her home in missouri. she's pumping every couple of hours. she wakes up in the middle of the night, not doing this for her family. she is doing this for others who are looking for formula. let's take a listen to what cory has to say about why she's doing this. >> there are so many different ways that you can show love to people and what better way to help a mom feed her baby. this is just a way where i can, you know, give something to these babies and help moms out and show the love of christ, and it's just of like a whole thing for me. >> now any mom who pumps and that was me years ago knows what a pain in the neck it is. it's not terribly fun, but these women are doing it to help others. pam? >> it is a pain in the neck, that. i did it, too, elizabeth. these women are incredible. thank you so much. well, coming up, a preview of the new cnn film that takes
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do. you just have to have the courage of your convictions, particularly if it's a loose mass like this. that didn't go very well. >> if she made a mistake, she wasn't rattled. >> i didn't have the courage to do it the way i should have. but you can always pick it up on your own in the kitchen. who is going to see? >> she felt that making a mistake was a good thing just so she could show you how to fix it. >> any time that anything like this happens, you haven't lost anything because you can always turn this into something else. we'll pretend this was supposed to be a baked potato dish. kate bolduan spoke with bobby flay about julia child's legacy and impact on his own life. so i read that when you were younger you watched superheros after school, one of them being julia child. >> for sure.
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i was lucky enough to spend some time with her over the years when i first started cooking. i think the very first experience i had with her was 19 84, the very first week of the school that i was in had opened. i was in the very first class of the french culinary institute in 1984. the gas had not been put on yet, so we were actually cooking on little burners, like -- >> bunsen burners? >> exactly. and julia child called and said, i've heard about this french school. i want to come see what it's like. i want to do a story for good morning america. we cooked lunch for julia child on bunsen burners. she was the best. i had lunch with her one time. she ordered something i'd never heard of before. she liked to have a cocktail now and then. she ordered an upside down -- >> i like cocktails and never heard of that. >> i know. >> you can cook anything. you're amazing at your craft, but when i think of bobby flay,
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i don't think of a crepe, something delicate. >> what are you saying, kate? >> you're not a delicate man, bobby. your food is very nondelicate. >> okay. >> have you ever taken on -- have you taken on the challenge of mastering the art of french cooking? >> it's interesting because i -- as i was saying, i went to the french culinary institute. my training is really in basic french technique, and when you think about it, basic french technique is the basis of most cuisines in the world. not every. maybe not asian cuisine, et cetera, but for the most part, i put those practical fundamentals, that french technique to use almost every time i cook. by the way, i'm making sauces. i might be adding chili peppers and big flavors. >> to everything. >> at least you're paying attention. >> i am a good student. >> but at the same time, french technique is part of my life every day. >> that's amazing. >> yeah. >> what was it even at a young age that captivated you about her? >> she was fearless.
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and i think that clip that you guys showed, i mean, it really shows what it was like. it really reminded me of my first few years at food network. it was a long time ago now. we didn't have the -- the network had no money for editing. we had to cook live to tape, and you had to hit the marks from commercial to commercial. there was no editing. my first show was called "grilling and chilling". we shot 42 shows in seven days. six a day. one after the other. >> for anyone not in television, that is exhausting and insane. >> it's crazy. we called it live to tape. and that's the way we cooked. she did the same thing. >> she's had an impact on so many things. not only on food, but not only tv. i mean, on tv performance, if you will, and what it looks like to be a chef on tv, but also on culture. i mean, what is it -- what do you think her legacy is so much, but what do you take from her
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legacy? >> she set the tone. she set the tone, the bar, for people like myself who are able to play out my culinary fantasies on television. without julia child, who knows if that would have ever happened. and so many great -- like, so many great things that happened, it happened by accident. she just kind of happened to be in the right place at the right time. she pushed her way into the network, so to speak, and they were like okay, let's give it a roll. it caught on. but i will tell you this. here's the really important thing. it's one of the things that i've always thought of for my own career, which is that she cared so much about the food first. so that no matter what, the people -- like, the crew that was eating the food, they knew that -- they knew they were going to get a good meal because she cared about what the food was about. i think that's what gave her her longevity. not just that she was awesome on tv, but she had an amazing foundation. >> julia premiers tonight at 8:00 p.m. eastern on cnn. "inside politics" starts after a
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hello. welcome to a special edition of "inside politics." i'm phil mattingly in washington. john king is off today. it is memorial day. any moment over the course of the next hour, we are expecting president biden to lay a wreath at the tomb of the unknown
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