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are you a christian author with a book that you're ready to share with the world? get published now, call for your free publisher kit today! hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. here is what we're watching at this hour. taking on inflation. president biden pushing a flu plan to try to bring prices down. meeting with the federal reserve chairman today. what does any of this really mean for consumers right now? one of biden's top economic advisers is our guest. searching for the leak. the supreme court going to new lengths to try and find who leaked a draft opinion about a landmark abortion case. we have new reporting on the investigation exclusive to cnn. and uvalde one week later. funerals are beginning for the children and the teachers murdered, and still major questions about what actually happened with law enforcement on
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the scene. those serious questions amid the grief. we'll get to it. thank you all so much for being here. today, the president and his administration are making a major push to refocus on the economy and defend his handling of it. in a new opinion piece in the "wall street journal," the president claims that the u.s. is in a better economic position than almost any country in the world. he credits his own policies can helping to achieve the strongest recovery in modern history. he's also facing public sentiment that's making clear americans don't feel that strength, not by a long shot. ga gallop's economic confidence reading is reporting this is likely the lowest public confidence has been in the economy since the tail end of the great recession in early 2009. biden's team is now outlining what they are calling a three-part plan to fight inflation and to turn this around. inflation will be number one, the number one agenda item when
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the president meets with the federal reserve chairman jerome powell this afternoon at the white house. and this meeting comes as we get the latest read on the health of the economy. new data out this morning on the housing market and consumer confidence. let's start with jeremy diamond, live at the white house, for more on what the president is saying and planning. jeremy, what is this plan from the white house now? >> reporter: well, kate, as president biden prepares to sit dune with the federal reserve chairman today, he and the can white house are launching a renewed effort to try to show americans, first of all, that he understands the pain they are facing with inflation across the country, but also to try to demonstrate what his plan is to combat inflation. in a "wall street journal" op-ed, the president outlining the three-part plan, the first of which is essentially to let the federal reserve do its job. trying not to unduly influence the fed, as he's appointed republican and democratic nominees to the federal reserve board. he's also talking about taking steps to make things more
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affordable for americans. a lot of those steps include policies that he proposed in his build back better framework that really have no way of moving in congress. everything from lowering prescription drug costs to lowering the cost of child care. then the president also talking about continuing to reduce the federal deficit. touting the efforts he's made to reduce the deficit and also talking about efforts to reform the tax code. again, those efforts also stuck in the build back better legislation that really has not seen the light of day. now, the white house says this is all part of what they call a months' long effort to promote the administration's policies aimed at combating inflation. even just today, 20 tv hits scheduled by administration officials to talk about this effort. it really is the latest attempt by the white house to do so. we saw the president earl yes t earlier this month,three weeks ago today, talking about his efforts on inflation.
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also criticizing republicans' plans related to inflation. expect to see much more of that this month as the white house tries to land its messaging facing the tough poll numbers you were mentioning. >> jeremy, thanks. really appreciate it. now, let's get to the new economic data that's out this morning about home prices. a new read on how americans feel about it all. cnn's matt egan has been looking at it and has new reports and is joining us now. matt, what do you see in the two reports today? >> reporter: it is kind of a consumer time for the economy because the jobs market is on fire. unemployment is historically low, and americans are shopping. as you mentioned, people are not feeling good right now. we saw new numbers today showing consumer confidence declined in may. it remains somewhat low given how strong ask jobs market is. 1 in 4 consumers expect business conditions to get worse over the next six months. this is really all about the high cost of living and the fact that consumer prices are rising at the fastest pace in 40 years, including housing costs. another report out today showed that home prices in the united
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states rose by 20.6% year over year in march. that is the fastest pace on re record, surpassing what we saw in the mid 2000s housing bubble. supply of homes not keeping up with demand, especially true in the sun belt. we saw massive gains for tampa, phoenix, miami. all of them 30% plus increases year-over-year for home prices. i think the big question is how long this will last. >> exactly. >> rock bottom mortgage rates fueled the housing boom. it's going away. the fed is raising interest rates. mortgage rates spiked above 5%. we could see home price gains cool off. i think one other thing that is important to remember with home prices is this is really a case of haves and have nots. if you own a home, this is great news. it means your net worth has gone up. if you're a first-time home buyer, it means it is harder to buy a home. this pushes up rental rates for everyone. >> thank you for laying that out. appreciate it. there is also one number that tells a lot of americans really everything they need to know about inflation, the price
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of gas. it is continuing to climb, hitting another record high today. nationwide, the average for a gallon of gas is $4.62, putting a real squeeze on millions of americans, continuing to put a squeeze on them, especially commuting to and from work. gabe cohen is live in washington with a look at this. what are you finding? >> kate, it's a hot labor market, so some workers are seeing the gas prices rise and they're asking for stipends or trying switch to remote jobs. not every employee has that obviously. for the workers commuting again, the new gas price, $4.62 a gallon, is up $1.58 in the past year. in some places, it is far worse than that. there are several stations in california where the price is higher than the federal minimum wage. with oil prices rising again this morning, gas prices are expected to follow.
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the average u.s. commute now costs an extra roughly $35 a month compared to pre-covid. much worse in certain cities. it's a particularly big burden for, one, people who live in rural areas who have to drive much longer distances to work or to run errands, and, of course, more lower income families. they're buying the same gas. they're often making the same commutes, but they have far less expendable income. i spoke with a couple in new jersey. they commute more than 100 miles per day combined. their gas bill this month was more than $1,000. the husband is eight years away from his pension, so he can't just quit, even if it means they can't retire in eight years as they planned. >> we didn't think at this age that we would be, i guess -- >> financially strapped. >> exactly. we didn't think we would be talking about money every single
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day. >> look, some employees are pushing back. in washington state, more than 100 employees contracted to work on google maps signed a petition refusing to go back to the office. the question is, will this become more of a factor as these prices keep rising and workers plan their future? kate. >> good to see you, gabe. thank you for that. let's get more from jared bernstein of the white house council of economic advisers. thank you for being here. i want to get to the opinion piece the president wrote in the "wall street journal." in it, he lays out this three-part plan you guys are talking about. he says in it that tackling inflation is his top economic priority. we have heard that from him. so should the american people judge the administration and judge the president on how quickly and how far you bring down inflation? >> i think the american people have every right to judge our administration and the president's words by looking at our efforts on precisely that issue.
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when the president says it is his top domestic priority, he means it. we have to show that to the american people. he's been doing so, and he be continue to do so. in fact, while we're certainly upping those efforts, especially in terms of our public-facing comments this month, if you listen to every speech the president has given on the economy, he's talked about not only what a challenge this is for american households, but what we have been doing and what we're going to continue to do. in areas of supply chains, lowering costs for households, in housing. every one of those, he goes through in his op-ed today. top domestic priority, he means it, we mean it. we're going to push on that until we see prices ease. >> you mentioned you judge him on his efforts, but what about the result? are you confident the efforts will bring results, that consumers are going to -- >> i'm very confident. >> yokay. >> yeah. very confident. look, every forecast we've seen has inflation growing more slowly toward the end of this
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year. whether we get down to -- you know, how far that goes is a matter of how accurate those forecasts are. you know, we're not in the forecasting business here. we're in the business of making sure those forecasts come to pass. how can we do that? we can ease pressure at the pump, as you just reported. one of the most important and tangible issues, not just for the american people, but this president grew up in a family where high gas prices were a dinner table topic of conversation. he feels that challenge in his bones, and he's always been very much relating to those kind of middle class families. the largest release of -- ethanol to increase the supply in gas stations that do that. and working with congress -- that he's proposed, that could save families $500 a year on their annual utility bills. >> jared, your shot is taking
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some hits. we're going to power through, and hopefully it regains strength, if you will. you said you're not in the forecasting business, but you definitely are in the setting goals business. as any leader needs to be. so what is the goal here? is it to bring inflation back to 2%, 3%? what's the goal? what is the measure of success? >> there's three parts to this goal. three parts to getting to this measure of success. one is to make sure the federal reserve has all the space it needs. that's a clear goal. what does it mean to get inflation under control? it means the pace of inflation -- aggressively pivots to its new interest rate stance. it means from our side, lowering the cost that families face at the pump, to prescription drugs, elderly and child care. as i mentioned, it may have gotten cut out, but the president is working with
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congress to pass clean energy investment tax credits that will lower utility bills to families by $500. then the third part, and this is on the books, this is a deficit that's on track to fall by $1.7 trillion this year. that's an historical record. that also takes pressure off prices. all of those, if you put them together, will contribute to slower growing inflation as the year goes on. which, again, is -- >> those are the steps you hope will get you to a goal, but is the goal 2% or 3%? would i be wrong to assume that would be a goal? >> well, now you're getting into the federal reserve's territory. we're trying to make sure that we underscore their independence. the goal is to get inflation down to around 2%. if you'll get their forecast, that's a goal that they see coming after a couple of years.
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our goal is to do everything we can to ease inflationary pressures. what i'm not going to do now is give you a number and date and say, "by this date, inflation will be this percent." there's too many uncertainties out there. our goal is not to forecast some kind of an inflation rate that we may or may not hit. our goal is to do everything we can to ease price pressures at the pump, when it comes to family budgets, and to bring down the deficit to also take pressure off prices. now, all of those together -- i don't want tos-- i want to be v clear about the direction of inflation. all of those should very much contribute to slower price growth as we get to the end of the year. but this is going to be something we will be working on consistently until we see inflation get to a much more comfortable level for american households. >> good to see you, jared. thank you for coming in. >> my pleasure. it's been one week since the
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massacre in uvalde, texas. new audio is raising new questions on how and when police responded to the shooting. details in a live report next.
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one week after the massacre at robb elementary in uvalde, texas, we're still piecing together the events of that day. today, cnn obtained new audio from the shooting. in it, you can hear what appears to be a child saying that they've been shot. cnn's nick valencia is live in uvalde with more on this. what can you tell us about this new video? >> reporter: good morning, kate. it raises more questions. it appears as though police may have been in touch with children who were victims of this shooting as it was unfolding
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and, yet, still did not go inside the classroom where the gunman was barricaded. this video we obtained from an individual who didn't want to be identified but said he was recording this on his facebook livestream. the audio you're about to hear is purportedly from cbp radio traffic. we don't understand or know why this was on or would be on cbp radio, but according to the individual who filmed the video, he said as soon as cbp agents realized he could overhear this conversation, which appears to be between an adult and child shot, they turned down the radio volume. we want you to listen for yourselves, but we want to warn you, also, this could be difficult for some of you to hear. >> are you in there? >> i got shot! >> reporter: we don't know exactly what point this shooting the video was recorded, but it gives us another piece of evidence to the chaos that was surrounding this shooting. now, another incident that
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was -- or another ceremony that was supposed to take place today is not going to. statement from the mayor here in uvalde says city council members were expected to be sworn in, including the controversial police chief of the school district, pete arredondo. he was the pone who made the decision to keep law enforcement back from going into the classroom where the gunman was barricaded. many parents and residents in the community blame him for that decision, for the dramatic loss of life. 21 individuals that were lost here in this community that's deeply wounded this south texas town of 15,000 people. and there is more grief and so much pain here still evident, just one week since this happened. two funerals are expected to happen later today for two of the smallest victims. we also know that at least three rosaries and visitations will also take place. you know, this memorial behind me continues to grow by the hour. we're seeing residents here with tears in their eyes coming here,
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trying to make sense of what happened, including small children who understand the gravity of what is going on around them. kate. >> nick, thank you for that. as more families are laying their loved ones to rest in uvalde, a bipartisan group of senators are actually going to be talki ing today in an attemp to find reform on gun safety. president biden, of course, this is following his visit to uvalde, he believes a compromise is possible. >> never absolute. i think things have gotten so bad, that everybody is getting more rational about it. that's my hope. >> cnn's manu raju is live on capitol hill with more on what these discussions even look like right now. manu, who is part of the talks, and what could be on the table? >> reporter: well, there are a small bipartisan group of senators that do plan to meet sometime later this afternoon virtually to discuss what could be possible, and there are
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various small changes to gun laws in which they'll be discussing. changes to red flag laws, in which an individual, if they're deemed to be a threat, they can get a court order to essentially take away that person's firearm, how to deal with that at the state level. also potential changes to background checks, including allowing more reporting of mental health issues into the background check system. also potential talk of seeing whether they could raise the legal age of buying an ar-15, assault rifle, to the age of 21. the senators who are planning to discuss what might be possible are four of them today. senators john cornyn and chris murphy, thom tillis, and kyrsten sinema. two democrats, two republicans to talk about what might be possible on the senate side. the house side, you're seeing provisions that are laid out in a house judiciary committee bill in which democrats plan to push forward on thursday out of the committee. a much more sweeping set of
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changes they're pushing in a bill they're calling the protecting our kids act. including, among other things, restricting large capacity magazines. now, the kchallenge for democras pushing the stricter gun control measures, they're likely to get the votes out of the house, but different animal, requiring 60 votes. 50 democrats and 10 republicans to break any filibuster, which is why the focus, in large part, is on what the small bipaurrtis group of senators can reach, if anything. something we won't know atill t the days ahead. >> and how long it'll take. that's unclear. thank you, manu, for the update. while congress is beginning what could be a lengthy negotiation toward gun reform, canada is. >> reporter: taking action. a bill to ban buying or selling or transferring weapons, capping the mark it.
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the new legislation would require long gun magazines, never holding more than five rounds. it'd increase penalties for gun smuggling. trudeau said the bill was part of his duty. >> as a government, as a society, we have a responsibility to act to prevent more tragedies. canadians certainly don't need assault style weapons that were designed to kill the largest number of people in the shortest amount of time. gun violence is a complex problem, but at the end of the day, the math is really quite simple. the fewer the guns in our communities, the safer everyone will be. >> now, canada has already banned 1,500 types of military style assault weapons, including the kind used in the uvalde murder massacre. coming up now, exclusive cnn reporting about the supreme court.
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now to a scene and exc exclusive. the spupreme court taking extree steps to find who leaked the opinion on what will be a landmark decision on abortion rights. joan joins me with more on this. tell me what you've learned. >> morning, kate. yes, they're really escalating this hunt for who might have leaked draft document to "politico." now asking law clerks to sign affidavits and to -- they're taking steps also to have law clerks turn over cell phone data. this is a pretty aggressive move, but it does show how seriously they're trying to take this breach after four weeks since chief justice john roberts launched this investigation. it appears they've made insufficient progress to do anything but ramp up to this stage.
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it is a pretty forceful move, and it's caused concern among some of the law clerks there. each year, the justices hire four clerks per chambers, and these are folks who are in there, you know, to do research, help writing opinions. some of them are saying, we didn't sign up for this. they're thinking, should they hire lawyers? should they obtain counsel? one appellate lawyer who knows about the recent demands on law clerks told me that for any other government investigation, it would be, you know, similarly situated, people would go out and try to hire lawyers, and that it would be hypocritical for the supreme court to say you can't go outside. now, you know, nobody is forcing anyone to do something, but, you know, in the employment situation, just to be asked to do it presents a bit of a dilemma. i can't tell you, kate, how tense it already is up at the supreme court. they're resolving, obviously, this major case having to do with abortion rights that date
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back half a century, and personal privacy protections, but also gun control is before them, religious liberties. several hot-button cases that all will be resolved likely by the end of june. then to have this intrusive investigation on top of it is certainly ratcheting things up, kate. >> really remarkable and unbelievable. it's been almost amazing reporting, joan. appreciate it. for more, i'll bring in chief legala analyst jeffrey toobin. officials taking the steps to require clerks to provide cell phone records, provide affidavits. has there been an investigation like this at the court? >> never. never like this. the supreme court is perhaps the last institution that i can think of that operates, more or less, only on the honor system. the confidentiality between law clerks almong the justices is something that has really been sacr sacrosanct.
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i've done reporting about the supreme court, but only with former clerks. it never occurred to me to talk to a sitting clerk, and i never knew of a journalist who had talked to a sitting clerk until this extraordinary leak. you know, at one level, it makes sense to ask people, you know, what's in their cell phones, but, you know, our whole lives are in these things. medical information. personal information. financial information. you know, i can understand why even innocent law clerks would say, you know, i did not sign up for it, as joan said. so i think this is going to present them with a dilemma. remember, they can be fired if they refuse to turn over their cell phones. you know, this is at-will employment at the supreme court. so it's really, you know, going to be an extremely tense issue for a lot of these law clerks, about what they want to do with turning over this incredibly
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personal information. >> that's what i was going to ask you. i mean, what happens if a clerk refuses to comply? i mean, you seem to have just said it right there. they could lose their job over it. >> they could. you know, i'm in the saying they necessarily will. you know, it's also a tense situation because the individual justices zealous in protecting their relationships with their own law clerks. they don't want others to ask how opinions circulate within a chambers, who has access. you know, some justices may take their law clerk aside and say, "this is overly intrusive. i'm not going to agree to have my law clerks investigated in this way." so what is the marshal who is conducting the investigation do then? i -- you know, most leak investigations end without an
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answer. i guess as a journalist, i'm happy about that because, you know, we seek out leaks to cover the news. this one may fail, as well, but there may be some collateral damage to some law clerks and other court personnel along the way. >> i mean, even on the most simple, most immediate question, getting to joan's reporting, the law clerks are considering if they need to retain counsel over this. do you think they need to? >> well, you know, i think if this were the department of agriculture and there was a leak investigation, and people started asking department of agriculture employees for their cell phone information, i would think they would be crazy not to hire a lawyer. this is incredibly personal information that is in our cell phone. you'd find more personal information about most people in their phones than if you searched their apartments or their homes. i mean, that's what our lives
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are like now. you know, the privacy interests here really are considerable. you know, i think hiring a lawyer is, frankly, the reasonable response to such a request. >> an unbelievable situation. good to see you, jeffrey. thank you. this just into cnn right now, president biden is meeting with new zealand's prime minister, and he just spoke out moments ago about what he saw when president biden, when he visited uvalde over the weekend. let's listen in. this video is just coming in. >> united states is, you know -- there is a an expression. too long of suffering makes a stone of a heart. there's an awful lot of suffering. i've now been to more mass shooting aftermaths than i think any president in american history, unfortunately. it's just -- so much of it is -- much of it is preventable, and
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the devastation is amazing. yesterday -- or the day before, i was down in texas. people sat in the room of about 250 of them, in a large room with me almost four hours. nobody left. they waited until i spoke to every single l pperson in that room. they waited until the very end. the pain was palpable. you've been one of our closest partners with a long history and friendship of 80 years ago, marines landed in new zealand before embarking into the pacific theater, world war ii. i think i told do you when i met my -- two of my mother's brothers, they were in the pacific. they used to deploy at the same
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time those day, in world war ii. one was shot down in new guinea, and they never found the body. you know, the history goes back a long way. a long way. and i want to, by the way, recognize new zealand's significant support for ukraine. as a lot of indo-pacific countries are doing now, and because this is more than just a regional war going on. so i look forward to our conversations today. we have a lot to talk about. really, really delighted to have you here. really. >> listening there to president biden and the prime minister of new zealand during their visit, which is starting right now at the white house. the president offering, as you heard, his impressions from his visit to uvalde on sunday. we're going to continue to follow this and bring you news of the meeting with the prime minister as it comes in. coming up for us this hour, eu's historic agreement to cut off money flowing to russia, a move they hope will hit the
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kremlin's ability to fund its war machine in ukraine. what the eu is getting ready to do, that's next. bonnie up on p, message, or video, all in thehe same app. oh... hey bonnie, i didn't see you there. ♪ ringcentral ♪ some people have minor joint pain, plus high blood pressure. and since pain relievers may affect blood pressure, tylenol® is the #1 dr. recommended pain relief brand for those with high blood pressure. may affect blood pressure, if you have questions on whether tynol is right for you, talk to your doctor.
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for a key eastern city. russian forces are focusing on controlling severodonetsk, which is being hammered with constant shelling at this point. the regional military leader there says parts of the city are now in russian control. let's get over there. cnn's matthew chance is live in kyiv for us with much more on this. matthew, what are you seeing there, and what does this fighting mean and look like in the overall battle for ukraine? >> reporter: hey, kate. it's significant because this city of severodonetsk is the last really big remaining city in the luhansk region, which is half of donbas. the russians say they want to control the whole of donbas. the capture of this city, which is looking imminent now by the russians, would give the kremlin the ability to say, we've nearly completed that military objective. they haven't congresmpleted it . there's been video of russians in the center of the city, but
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ukrainian military officials tell us that they've still got guys in there, too, holding out until the last man to make it as difficult as possible for the russians to, you know, declare victory in that part of the country. but want to step away for a minute. this equipment behind me is because i'm in the center of the ukrainian capital of kyiv right now. there has been this exhibition staged here. it's of russian military equipment that has been destroyed. it was destroyed north of the city a couple months ago when this war began. it's been put here so the people of dokyiv can come, take a look bring their children and see what has made their lives, their city, and their country so under threat in the course of the past four months. so really interesting sort of close-up look at some of the military hardware that's been destroyed by the ukrainians in the course of this war, kate. >> it is remarkable. it is like a real-time museum of what ukraine is living through right now, on display.
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that's remarkable, matthew. thank you for bringing us that. really appreciate it. also, with regard to the war in ukraine, the european union is poised to cut off russia's most critical source of funds. the head of the european council says the eu leaders agreed to ban more than 2/3 of russian oil imports, which they hope will cut a huge amount of financing for its war machine. anna stewart is live in london with more on this. what is this agreement, and what does it mean for europe and russia? >> reporter: it is really significant in terms of cutting off finance will russia. the eu spends $10 billion in russian oil every tssingle mont. eventually, this will reduce eu's russian oil to 10%. it is not a full embargo, which was hoped for, and actually announced by the eu a month ago, but there have been huge division over recent weeks with countries like hungary, slovakia, and czech republic saying they cannot do without russian oil. that was a concession.
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there will be russian oil flowing through a pipe to those countries, but the rest is off. you see other measures included in the sixth round of packages. it has taken a long time for this to get done, and there's been a lot of criticism that, in that time, russia will be able, of course, to find new customers for its oil. that was something that the chief diplomat in the eu was keen to point out. >> certainly, we cannot prevent russia to sell their oil to someone else. not so powerful. but we are the most important client for russia. they will have to look for another one. certainly, they'll have to decrease the price. the purpose is for the russians to get less resources, less financial resources to feed the war machine. this certainly will help that. >> reporter: he makes great points. the eu is the biggest customer for russian oil. shipping it elsewhere, well,
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already, russian oil is trading at a discount, $34 a barrel cheaper. it'll probably lose quite a lot of revenue from this. of course, the big move we're looking forward to, will the eu ever cut itself off from russian gas? >> stand by to stand by on that. who would have thought even two months ago that this would be in conversation, what we're talking about now. so this is -- these are the historic times we are living in in this moment. anna, thank you so much. coming up for us, funerals are beginning for victims of the ma massacre at robb elementary. the senator who represents that devastated city joins us next. my moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... ...the burning, the itching. the stinging. my skin was no longer mine. emerge tremfyant®.
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it is now one week since the horrific shooting massacre at robb elementary in uvalde, texas. today funerals begin. amerie jo garz a and maite rodriguez. 21 funerals in that traumatized community. at the very same time investigations are underway in some serious questions still remaining about the law enforcement response. joining me is texas state senator roland gutierrez who represents uvalde. grieving just beginning in uvalde. what does it feel like there today? >> thank you for having me. i'm looking at the pictures on the screen here, and every time i see the little girls and boys,
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i well up and my heart hurts for these families. i thought i was getting better every day. the pain that i'm feeling is multiplied a million times and just so much more profound for these families and this community. i can only hope there's nothing that's -- i can say we're going to be here for them. >> absolutely. and there's also so many questions that i know you have. you are not comfortable with many of the answers that you've received so far in terms of investigation and what happened on that day. answers that i'm sure these families want as well. i mean, you're asking texas public safety for a full ballistics report, and to also know exactly what time, what officer, and from what agency showed up and where they were stationed at the school. why do you think there is not a full accounting yet of what transpired? >> so ballistics was already
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coming. i'm not as concerned about ballistics. this piece about where each officer was is something that i specifically asked for as soon as friday evening and then in a conversation with steve mcgraw on saturday morning. i just got off the phone with him after sending our -- memorializing our letter today. i just got off the phone with him. he's saying the full report is going to be ready by friday. i said that's a little bit late for me. i would like to have it sooner. there's a lot going on, and i understand, and they're still unpacking a lot of these things. these families deserve the answers. one little girl, i won't say who, received only one gunshot wound through the lower back. the first responder told the family that she likely bled out. that little girl might have lived had law enforcement done their job. to blame the one cop on the scene with the six other cops that work for him isn't good enough. certainly, i don't know him.
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certainly there was an error there, but i think at every point along the way, you have superior forces coming in that should have said let's go in now. just like the cbp cop at one point says i'm done with this, i'm going in. and so at what point do people not use some common sense here, listen to 9-1-1 calls that are coming in, understand that kids are still alive inside, and know that they have to go in there, do their jobs under the active shooter protocol? just because one person makes a mistake, doesn't mean everybody else needs to compound on that. >> a couple questions i have on that. i want to get your take. you told my colleague dana bash this weekend the customs and border protection team that went in, they did not do so on command of the school police chief we're talking about but went in out of frustration on their own. is it your understanding that no command decision was ever made to breach the classroom? >> that is my understanding.
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what i have been told from law enforcement is that cbp finally took it upon themselves and said we're going in. that is my understanding, yes, ma'am. >> there's also this video which appears to include -- it appears dispatch audio telling officers on the scene that a child calling 9-1-1 from the classroom advising they're in the room and they're full of victims. this is going out on police radio. doing the chief or those with him in the school would have had that information in realtime, or do you think it's possible -- i don't know, they didn't have comms while they're standing outside the door? >> that's the failure in this entire system, in this entire process. we have multiple state agencies, federal agencies, localized agencies, and somewhere along the way, there's a communications problem. we're not hearing 9-1-1 disturbance calls. we're not hearing proper radio transmissions. i'm going to be asking for radio transmissions next. kids are alive.
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clearly they're alive. this is not a barricade situation, and the information is flowing in. why doesn't dps have that information, the sheriff's office, the federal guys, the local police? this is a failure at every level, and certainly a failure at a legislative level, and the failure has happened session after session. let's not forget that. >> there's so much to be learned. that's for sure. you are asking the questions. state senator, thank you for coming on. i appreciate your time. if you'd like to help the families of the victims, find out more information at thank you all so much for being here. i'm kate bolduan. "inside politics" with john king picks up after this.
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won't raise your taxes. vote yes on prop a for fast, safe, reliable transit. hello. welcome to "inside politics." i'm john king in washington. thank you for sharing your day with us. a frantic call from what appears to be a child shot in the uvalde school massacre as the community buries victims, more questions about the timeline. in washington, what if anything can happen on gun reform? >> there's an awful lot of suffering. we've been -- i've been to more mass shootings aftermaths than i think any president in american history, unfortunately, and it's just so much of it is -- much of


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