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for the first time ever fans will be in attendance adding even more pressure. brady told me he's going to be the most nervous on that first tee. if he can get through that without hitting anyone he will be good to go. be sure to tune in early. the match gets started 6:30 eastern on tnt. welcome to our viewers in the united states and all around the world, it is wednesday, june 1st, i'm john berman with brianna keilar. the investigation into the school shooting in uvalde, texas, is taking new turns this morning. police say a teacher there did close a propped open door shortly before a gunman used it to get inside, but it did not lock. now investigators are trying to determine why. this is yet another new version
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of events, just a few days ago officials said the door had been left ajar. there are also new questions about the police response. ksat has obtained audio of the school district's message alerting parents of an active shooter incident. >> parents, there is an active shooter at robb elementary. law enforcement is on site. your cooperation is needed at this time by not visiting the campus. >> both the school's facebook post and the audio message according to ksat came during the time that officers were inside the school and apparently believed the situation had become a barricade situation. cnn has learned that chief pete arredondo has stopped cooperating with investigators, failing to respond to a request for a follow-up interview, but he was sworn in as a city council member on tuesday. also funerals will be held for
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irma garcia and 10-year-old joée manuel flores jr. family and friends will also gather today at visitation and rosary services for nevaeh bravo, jayce luevanos and jailah signature row. >> joining us is michael fanone. what does it tell you that chief arredondo has stopped responding to questions? >> yeah, i mean, that's bizarre. i would assume that, you know, in the not so distant future the chief is going to be compelled to provide details about his experiences that day and to have to make account for his decision-making and why he made the decisions that he did on scene that day. >> he is, you would expect even if he's not cooperating. this decision to -- before we
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talk about obviously the phone call and the message that parents were getting, this decision by the police commander on scene to treat this as a barricade situation, can you just talk to us about that at first. should this ever have been in any world a situation where he says, this has now transitioned, short of neutralizing the suspect, this has now transitioned from an active shooter situation to a barricaded shooter situation? >> i mean, that's not the training that i'm familiar with. active shooter protocol is very clear in that the active shooter threat classification remains as such until that threat is neutralized. there is no transitioning to a barricaded situation or, you know, anything other than remaining an active shooter. >> so do you even though there was a lull in the shooting or there were lulls at certain points because we know there were gunshots and then maybe
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there would be a period of time where there weren't, that's not sufficient to then consider it a barricade situation rather than an active shooter? >> not in the training that i received for active shooter. you know, i can't speak to the tactics that were used, i think it's important that we wait for the incident report, but the momentum should be to engage in a shooter and neutralize the threat regardless of, you know, the moment to moment circumstances. >> you heard that recording, mike, of what the parents were told while this was going on. did it raise any flags to you in terms of the discrepancy there between what the parents were being told in realtime and then the explanation we have received since? >> i mean, it does. i mean, it's clear to me that it was an active shooter. i think it's clear to the public. i mean, you heard the director of the department of public safety in texas come out and say
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pretty early on that he felt that mistakes were made and that it was the wrong decision to declare that a barricade situation. i will defer to him, he clearly has more facts than the rest of us i would hope. >> we learned initially or we were told initially by law enforcement that a door had been propped open by a teacher. now we've learned the teacher had opened the door to bring food in, but once that teacher heard the commotion of what was going on had closed the door and it didn't lock. what do you think of that? >> well, first, i think that speaks to the importance of waiting until the conclusion of the investigation. these little details start to trickle out and, you know, we're starting now to get a better sense of exactly what happened, but, again, you know, it's important -- these protocols are put into place for a reason, it's important that everyone
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obeys the protocols even if it may be inconveniencing and this is just a stellar example of why we need to make sure that that is adhered to. and it's also important for law enforcement to get the facts straight before they release information to the public. >> we're seeing the chaos that not doing that has caused in this particular case. mike, thank you so much for giving us your expertise here. we appreciate it. >> yes, ma'am. thank you. new york governor kathy hochul announce ago slue of new bills designed to tighten gun laws across new york state. lawmakers say it could close loopholes that could have contributed to a mass shooting in buffalo last month. athena jones joins me with much more. >> reporter: this pass package of ten bills it set to pass the legislature and it would among other things raise the age to buy a semi-automotimount automa rifle, required new pistols to have micro stamping technology,
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a gun's fingerprint on each bullet it fires, it would ban civilians from buying bulletproof vests, bullet resistant vests and body armor like that and would broaden red flag laws, expanding the list of people who could file for a special protective order that allows courts to temporarily seize weapons from someone deemed to be a dang for themselves or to others. now, governor hochul says this is a step new york is taking, one of a few governors making this push at a state level but she wants to see federal action. she said new york already has some of the toughest gun laws in the country but clearly we need to make them even stronger. as new york once again leads we continue to urge the federal government to seize this opportunity and pass meaningful national gun violence prevention laws. kathy hochul says as long as illegal guns are out there, they make their ways to the streets of new york city often through what officials call the iron pipeline so guns and gun parts illegal in new york, magazines
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that hold more than ten rounds they make their way from pennsylvania into new york. she said she wants to see federal national action. >> other states tightening restrictions. a lot of stuff happening around the country. thank you very much. so what's happened at the state level after these mass shootings in recent years? i want to brink in audi corn initial who has been doing a deep dive into some of this. i know that you looked into what states did in a year following a mass shooting. what did you learn? >> there is a study out from ucla and harvard that depending on the party leadership in your state, that affects what kind of legislation is passed. so, in fact, there is gun policy legislation that has passed in states after mass shooting events, but since the majority of state houses are republican run what you actually see is an increase in the number of laws that actually loosen gun
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restrictions or boost protections for gun owners. you had states like obviously colorado, new jersey, virginia who at times have passed gun restrictions, but actually the research is showing that after a mass shooting event you do see a flurry of action that is correct flurry is action is most effective meaning moving from proposal to enactment in states with republican leadership and that that direction is not in the direction of restriction. >> what does that look like, deregulation? what kinds of measures are you seeing? >> there's been a movement for permitless carry or constitutional carry, again, kind of affecting some of the rules in terms of who can carry, when and where. but i think what's significant is that with each shooting event often the debate hinges on the
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par particulars of the event. the conversation became about the confederate monuments flag, after the las vegas shooting the conversation became about bump stocks which were the devices allowing semi-automatic weapons to happened fire. the trump administration did actually put in an order that put restrictions on those devices, but in this case you're already seeing and you heard this morning there is a lot of focus now on the human error. what was the police response? who propped open what door and what happened after? what is the protocol? none of these things are systemic or preventive and i think for the gun restrictions lobbyists, which is a growing number of active groups, they are looking for something systemic and that's when you hear it the conversation go to what's going to happen at the federal level? because it's pretty clear at the state level they are not going to get the change they're seeking. >> what about in florida where you saw a red flag law passed because it seemed pretty obvious
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that that shooter should have been flagged and should not have been able to obtain a weapon. is that potentially a model in other places? >> yes, and those have become more popular, more politically palatable and you can see why. you have sort of republican support and usually after a mass shooting event inevitably someone says there should be mental health something something, they sort of trail off and nothing ever comes of it. red flag laws i think are appealing to people in the middle because it allows the folks who say, hey, maybe there is a few bad apples and bad actors and if we flag them early we can prevent something from happening and the people who want bigger systemic change to say, look, now we're making progress, taking some bites of the apple in drawing back the ability, people, to have access and access is where all of this hinges. if you are a second amendment supporter and booster and a litmus test voter, access is everything and if you are a gun policy -- if you want
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restrictions, if you want draw back on access because of all the data you've shown on air about how many guns are in this country then you also are trying to find ways to nibble away at access. i think the country has not come to a conclusion about what is the right amount of access to weapons. >> it's so important to answer these questions that you're looking at here and counterintuitive, i think, we're seeing some of the answers that you're finding. thank you for sharing that with us. >> thank you for having me. >> of course. president biden announcing a new security package for ukraine n it -- >> and why were warnings from a former treasury secretary missed. >> we have more of an inflation problem than many people realize. >> i do think we need to recognize as people are starting to that inflation is a serious problem. >> larry summers will join us ahead. ♪ ♪
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house announced a new $700 million security assistance package to ukraine. in a "new york times" op-ed the president writes, we have moved quickly to send ukraine a significant amount of weaponry and ammunition so it can fight on the battlefield and be in the strongest possible position at the negotiating table. that's why i've decided that we will provide the ukrainians with more advanced rocket systems ammunitions that will enable them to more precisely strike key targets on the battlefield in ukraine. one part of the package is longer range missiles which would give ukraine the ability to launch rockets almost 50 miles. joining me is the white house principal deputy national security adviser jonathan finer. thank you for being with us. we're talking about the high
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mobility artillery rocket system and you're long with that sending the capability to shoot rockets basically 49 miles, not 200 which the ukrainians requested. so why did you make that decision? >> so at every point this have conflict starting at the very beginning when we were focused very much on anti-tank and anti-aircraft systems we have tried to get the ukrainians exactly what we think they needed to be able to fend off this russian assault on their country. that worked in the early days, the ukrainians were able to win the battle for kyiv and drive the russians away from their capital, now the conflict has shifted to a different phase in the south and east of the country where you've been supplying the ukrainians with significant amounts of artillery for this phase of the fight and we are adding to that the capability for the ukrainians to reach further, to reach russian targets as you said up to nearly 50 miles which we think will allow them to ring some of the more distant targets that we
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think will give them the ability to strike with precision russian targets on the battlefield and think this is going to make a big difference. >> 49 but not 200 which is what they requested. i also read in the "new york times" that you had a promise from ukraine not to use even the rockets that go 49 miles to shoot into russia. is that accurate? >> so first of all i looked carefully at the ukrainian reaction to this system. this is a system the ukrainians have been requesting, we believe that this does meet their needs, we believe they are very satisfied with what they are providing and, yes, as you indicated we have asked the ukraine yns for assurances that they will not use these systems to strike inside russia. this is a defensive conflict that the ukrainians are waging, russian forces are on their territory, there are significant targets that are not reachable to them with the munitions that they have to date so this will enable them to strike those targets we think will make a big difference in this phase of the conflict. >> russia is shooting into ukraine from hundreds if not thousands of miles away in some cases as far away as the caspian
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sea. they made no such promise to shoot from such far distances. the kremlin just responded moments ago saying that this weapons deal adds fuel to the fire. what do you say to that? >> look, we don't negotiate our security a assistance packages to ukraine with the kremlin. they have not been pleased by the amount of security assistance we've been providing to the ukrainians far before this most recent phase of the conflict began but president biden warned president putin directly and we said so publicly as well that if russia launched a renewed invasion of ukraine the united states would increase the amount of security assistance we were providing including new and advanced systems. with err doing exactly what we said we would do and russia has brought this on itself by launching an invasion into a sovereign country from its territory. we have been very clear and transparent about what we are going to be doing, it has been effective for the ukrainians thus far and we think will continue to be. >> in terms of warning to putin
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in this op-ed the president says we do not seek a war between nato and russia. as much as i disagree with mr. putin the situates will not try to bring about his ouster in moscow. i want to play for you what the president said when he was speaking in poland on march 26. >> for god sake this man cannot remain in power. >> how do you explain the discrepancy between those two statements? >> i don't think we see a discrepancy there at all. what i think the president was saying at the time and what he has said since is that he was expressing a preference but not a policy. we do not have a policy of pursuing regime change in russia, never have, but we have been very clear to russia that as it continues to launch this invasion we expect that this is going to leave russia worse off not better off. the president laid out our war aims, our objectives for this conflict in a long piece that he wrote in the "new york times" yesterday and one of those is to
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make sure at the end of this the international system is stronger not weaker because of what russia has done and a big part of that is showing within you perpetrate a crime of aggression like this war is that russia is launching you don't end up better off. we think so far russia has been weakened tremendously by the fact it has gone into ukraine in this way, it's been weakened on the battlefield, its losing standing in the international community and that is one of our objectives to make sure russia does not end up as seeing this as not a strategic success but a strategic failure. >> in terms of putin is it fair to describe the policy that the president would like to see him gone but the united states will not try to do anything about it? >> the president has been clear what our objectives are, he laid out three, first -- >> i was just talking specifically -- >> i'm going to answer the question about our -- you asked that. the second is to avoid a conflict between nato and the united states and russia and the
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third that this ends up a strategic failure for russia. this is not a personalized policy, this is not about president putin this is about ensuring that russia fails in its objective of trying to dominate and subrogate ukraine. >> in severodonetsk our reporting is its about 70% of russian control, the expectation is that it could fall soon to the russians. what the impact of that? >> so i'm not going to get into the sort of incremental gains and losses that are going to take place in this phase of the conflict. we expect that that is how this is going to play out over a period of weeks and months and perhaps even longer. this is going to be a difficult phase of fighting. these are pitched battles, very heavy on artillery and other -- what the military calls indirect fire, high rates of casualties on both sides. our objectives is to get the ukrainians exactly the material they need to be able to stay in this fight and to be able to take the fight to the russians
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for this phase of the conflict and for the long haul. the isn't clear we are going to stay with them as long as they need us. >> in this phase of the conflict do you feel that russia is making gains? >> there have been some incremental gains made by the russians, some incremental gains made by the ukrainians. i'm not going to handicap the play by play here. we are focused on the strategic situation, on getting the ukrainians what they need to be able to defend their country and i don't think it's valuable to look at a snapshot one day or the next. this is going to play out over quite some time and we are going to be in it for the long haul. >> what you are getting the ukrainians do you believe it is enough to eject russia from the country? >> we think that the security assistance that we have provided them up until now has been successful. they were very successful in the early phase of the conflict. this phase of the conflict is going to play out over a longer period of time. again, weeks, months perhaps, even longer and i think for now we believe that we are getting them what they need to be able to defend their country. we will assess this every single
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day, more often than every single day and as the needs on the battlefield change and the situations change we will adjust our a assistance accordingly. we believe we are getting them what they need for this fight. >> thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. calling a truce, the new reporting on brian kemp's efforts to tame tensions with former president trump ahead of the november election. and a new admission from treasury secretary janet yellen. >> well, look, i think i was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. >> former treasury secretary larry summers who has been sounding the alarm for a year will join us next.
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it happened right here on cnn, treasury secretary janet yellen now saying she was wrong about how serious inflation would be. >> i think i was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. as i mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that have boosted energy and food prices and supply bottlenecks that have affected our economy badly that i didn't -- at the time didn't fully understand. >> joining us now larry summers, the former treasury secretary under former president clinton and former director of the white house national economic council under president obama. he has been warning about inflation for more than a year. mr. secretary, when you hear secretary yellen say unanticipated shocks, is that a fair statement? because you've sort of been anticipating the heck out of
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this. >> look, i think the consensus last spring was wrong. the consensus didn't see the overheating risk. i've been wrong plenty of times in my life, but i did see that there was a very substantial demand pressure that was building and it seemed plausible given that that there would be bottlenecks, but i think in fairness to secretary yellen and in fairness to the federal reserve, what they were echoing was a consensus view of economists at that time. that consensus has turned out to be wrong and i think that does require some rethinking of conventional models among the economists who do these forecasting, nowhere more important than the fed, which is why i talked about the need for some institutional soul searching there. but i think the important issue is looking forward and i was
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gratified by what secretary yellen said about the primisy of the inflation problem. i thought the president's orientation and his comments yesterday to inflation is our central problem and to monetary policy is the first line of solution in a completely depoliticized way were just right. >> is the fed acting enough quickly enough? >> i hope so. i'm not certain. i think the test is going to come over the next six months. the temptation is always to stop the antibiotic as soon as you feel better and that can often be the wrong thing to do that makes the problem come back later and something similar is true with respect to monetary
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restraint. i think we need to be very careful to make sure that if we have a few good months on inflation that are better and a few months when the economy looks a little bit weaker that we don't ease monetary policy or stop tightening it too rapidly. here is the core fact, we never stopped an inflation without raising interest rates by considerably more than inflation went up. inflation has gone up a lot, by some measures it's gone up 4%, there are even measures where it's gone up 6%. so far from rates have only gone up by less than 1%. so i think that in all likelihood to contain inflation we've got substantially more interest rate increasing ahead
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of us. that could turn out to be wrong because it could turn out that the economy weakens much, much more in the next few months than most observers now expect, but i think that's what we've got to keep in mind. what's been necessary in the past to contain inflation. >> it sounds like what you're saying is that to contain inflation we need either a recession, which is not something that most people, most consumers certainly want to see, or raising interest rates as much as 4% from where it is, which would be an enormous increase. >> i think that is the lesson of history. here is the unfortunate painful fact and it's true of the u.s. experience and it's true of the experience of other rich countries like us, when
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inflation is above 4 and unemployment is below 4, you are almost certain to have a recession within the next two years. >> how bad? >> we may somehow find a way of beating the odds at having a soft landing, but it would be a historic counterexample not a historic norm if that proves to be true. >> when you are talking about a recession coming, how bad do you think it could be? >> i think that people have an impression of a recession like what happened with respect to the pandemic or what happened in the great financial crisis. i don't minimize the pain associated with recessions, but i don't think we're talking about anything like double digit unemployment necessarily. i think -- and i would not expect that. i think the risk is that if we make the mistakes we made in the
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1970s and don't confront this squarely and firmly and immediately with respect to inflation, then we're setting the stage for a really large problem. >> do you think tax increases should be on the table? >> i do think that taking back some of the huge windfall that president trump conferred on the corporate sector would be a good idea. i think it would tend to help better balance demand and supply. i think if it was done in the right way it would foster international tax cooperation that would cause more investment to take place within the united states and go after tax havens. i think a great thing that secretary yellen did was drive the effort to have a global tax treaty so that the biggest companies and most profitable companies in the world couldn't
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go hide in tax havens and escape paying taxes, but that treaty is going to languish unless the united states passes the necessary legislation. so whatever happens with respect to all of build back better, i certainly hope that we will do that. it would be good for inflation t would be good for fairness, it will be good for international tax cooperation and it will be good for strengthening the domestic economy. >> former treasury secretary larry summers, we appreciate you being with us this morning. thank you. >> thank you. so georgia's attorney general has received a subpoena and the investigation into former president trump's efforts to overturn the georgia election results. and a new shipment of baby formula headed to the u.s. from australia. this one cnn has learned enough to fill two planes.
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former president donald trump. according to the atlanta journal constitution kemp's camp is hoping for a detente that could at least scale down the vitriol ahead of a november matchup against stacey abrams and the likelihood that trump will return to georgia to real for herschel walker and bert jones, but is team trump hook to make amends. joining us now perhaps to answer it is atlanta journal constitution political reporter patricia murphy. tell us about your new reporting here on this and if trump is amenable to some sort of, you know, kumbaya here. >> right. well, after brian kemp's really huge victory win last week over david perdue who was donald trump's hand-picked candidate to
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bring brian kemp down, there have been efforts and discussions among kemp's allies to try to approach donald trump and at least create some sort of truce or detente between the two men ahead of the november elections. there is enormous anxiety here in georgia among republicans that donald trump will start to attack not just brian kemp but also georgia's election apparatus and have a replay of the 2021 runoffs here in georgia when two republican senators lost their seats when those trump candidates and the trump voters, rather, stayed home and didn't back the two republican senators. the kemp camp is trying to find ways to avoid a replay of that, but it seems that donald trump is not quite ready to have a truce with brian kemp just yet. >> it is puzzling, patricia, that kemp wants this considering trump is facing a criminal probe in georgia, he is still insulting kemp and he's obviously still lying at this point about primary fraud,
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potential primary fraud. >> yeah, they don't really necessarily want any sort of an endorsement from donald trump, this he don't expect an endorsement from donald trump and don't even know that that would help in the general election, but they do want donald trump essentially off the stage, they don't want him out in georgia coming to georgia attacking brian kemp from a rally stage which is exactly what he's done earlier this year he came to georgia and said that stacey abrams would be a better governor than brian kemp. so for those republican voters who still like donald trump, still listen to him, even if they are not the majority of republican voters here in the state, brian kemp needs their support and doesn't need donald trump trashing him here in the state and trashing especially the elections and continuing to sow doubt in the elections and convincing those republican vote towers stay home. brian kemp can't afford that and his allies understand that. >> we've seen what happens and how effective donald trump can be in convincing republican voters to stay home in georgia
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and the impact certainly that it can have. patricia, thanks for sharing your reporting. we appreciate it. brianna mentioned the investigation into former president trump in georgia. the fulton county district attorney has subpoenaed georgia state attorney general chris carr in this investigation into trump's efforts to pressure georgia officials to overturn the results of the 2020 election. with me now to discuss this cnn senior legal analyst ellie honig. first of all, i want to start with the basics here. this is a grand jury investigation. >> yes. >> what does that mean versus a jury trial. >> very important to understand. a trial jury and a grand jury are different things, starting with what they do. a trial jury of course hears evidence and delivers a verdict guilty or not guilty. a grand jury can investigate, usually by issuing subpoenas which require somebody to testify or produce evidence, the other thing they can do if they choose is to issue an indictment. now, this grand jury down in georgia is a special gorand jur,
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they can make a recommendation in which case it would go to a regular grand jury which could indict. the mechanics are different. a trial jury 12 members, have to be unanimous, the proof standard is beyond a reasonable doubt, the highest standard we have in our system. a grand jury is 23 members, you only need a majority, 12 members in order to indict and the standard is much lower, probable cause. last, john, a trial jury operates in public, anyone can watch a trial, sometimes tv cameras, but grand jury proceedings are secret but that only means the prosecutor in the room can't talk about it, the grand jurors are not talk about it, however, witnesses are free to say i got subpoenaed, i just testified about this. we will not know exactly what's happening in the room but we will have a good sense of who is getting subpoenaed and perhaps what they say. >> what do you think the crimes are that are being investigated here, the possible range? >> the da in fulton county put in her letter to judges that she has reasonable probability that the state of georgia's administration of elections in
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2020 was subject to possible criminal disruptions. now, she didn't specify what crimes, however, if you dig a little into georgia law you will find it is a crime under georgia law to solicit, meaning just to ask, for election fraud, including willfully tampering with either votes or the certification of who won. of course the primary focus here will be on the infamous phone call between donald trump and the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger back a few days before january 6 where trump infamously said all i want to do is this, i just want to find, keyword, find 11,780 votes which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> is the legal hinge here whether or not this constitutes an ask, a solicitation. >> it's definitely a solicitation, the hinge listen donald trump's state of mind. prosecutors will say but why find, that's a strange word and
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why one more vote than he would have needed to one. >> we know ravnsffensperger has been subpoenaed as well as five other members of the georgia secretary of state's office. the most interesting one to me is frances watson who was an investigating who donald trump also called her, that's the lesser known recording but there is a tape of this and he says things to this investigator like i won georgia i know that by a lot and the people know it and something happened there, something bad happened. he says to her if you can get to fulton, fulton county, you will find things that are unb unbelievable and says to this investigator when the right answer comes out you will be pra praised. the attorney general chris carr has been subpoenaed because donald trump asked him, hey, do me a favor, don't object to our lawsuit challenging the results, carr did object. we also could see lindsey graham subpoenaed, he called down to georgia a few weeks before, brian kemp we know donald trump called brian kemp and asked him
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to call a special special of the legislature. rudy could get subpoenaed as well. rudy went in front of the georgia legislature and he lied. that's a crime in itself. he lied about there being election fraud. >> sounds like there's major acts left in this play. >> for sure. >> thank you so much for that. so a major blow in the trump/russia investigation investigation. hillary clinton's campaign laura quitted of lying to the fbi. we have new reaction next. plus this just in, gas prices in the u.s. hitting a new record this morning. and one hand holding his baby, the other a foul ball. a dad making a risky one-handed catch. miss allen over there isn't checking lesson plans. she's getting graded on her green investments with merrill. a-plus. still got it. (whistle blows) your money n never stops workig for you with merrill, a bank of america company. ♪ we could d walk forever ♪ ( ♪ )
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supposed to finally come down. i'm talking, of course, about the much hyped long awaited verdict in the durham investigation. but instead it was time to cue the sound trombone soundtrack as there was an acquittal for michael sussmann who was charged with a single count of lying to the fbi. this is after more than three years of investigation, by a special counsel whose major accomplishment to date in the probe is getting a former fbi lawyer to admit to doctoring an email. with employprobation and commun service. the mueller investigation took less than two years and had prison sentences for five members of the circle, including paul manafort and roger stone, both of whom trump later pardoned and michael cohen. just to refresh your memory, the durham investigation was created by former attorney general bill barr, and pumped up relentlessly by trump as the crime of
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century. the goal was to investigate the investigators, weaponized by the power of the presidency. the folks over at fox news obligingly hyped up the durham investigation big time. according to alexis next ous transcripts, they mentioned it 625 times on their air since 2019. the repetition reflects the alternate reality that gets created by partisan echo chambers. as it became evident the trial was going sideways, right wing media was primed to explain away an acquittal, blaming the jury is biased and saying it contained hillary clinton donors. it wasn't a close call. it was a fast six-hour deliberation followed by a unanimous verdict. this fizzle should be a big blow to trump land's alternate reality as new york magazine's jonathan chate wrote, they tried to prove trump's russia gate theory, instead they debunked it. the verdict undercuts the whole lock her up chant we have been hearing for years.
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it wasn't even the only smackdown delivered yesterday. last night buzzfeed news got the results of a freedom information act showing a trump era doj investigation found no evidence of improper interference in unmasking general michael flynn who briefly served as national security adviser. another baseless accusation, breathlessly described as being worse than watergate bites the dust. or it should. but the reality based media and partisan media played by different rules and there are still a lot of partisan dupes who are committed to the belief that russia's interference in the 2016 election was a hoax. if you meet one of those folks and i'm sure you have, remind them this isn't a matter of opinion, it is an established fact. if they don't believe you, refer them to the five volume report authored by the gop led senate intelligence committee which independently established russia's attempts to influence the election on donald trump's behalf. because lest we forget, russian interference is the big offense here, not reporting, however
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unsavory the details might be, after all, politics -- criminalizing political opposition research related activity of this type serves no criminal justice purpose. now, one key question is where the durham probe goes next. remembering that it continued its efforts under the biden administration, presumably because of a desire to depoliticize the doj and the belief this investigation would run out of steam on its own. it is an honorable approach, but i would be surprised if it succeeds in stopping the conspiracies. because the alternate facts crowd has their own echo chamber, that's why these partisan accusations without evidence should be treated with extreme skepticism, and why actual verdicts must be recorded. because otherwise, the misinformation dominates the debate, and we have got to find a way to operate from a common sense of facts again. so we can reason together as a self-governing nation.
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and that's your reality check. >> john avlon, thank you so much. and "new day" continues right now. welcome to our viewers in the united states and around the world. it is wednesday, june 1st. i'm brianna keilar with john berman and the investigation into the school shooting in uvalde, texas, is taking new turns this morning. police there is a a teacher did indeed close a propped open door shortly before a gunman used it to get inside, contradicting what we were initially told that the door was propped open. but we have learned the door did not lock. now investigators are trying to figure out why. this is yet another new version of events from what we heard just days ago. there are also some new questions about the police response here, cnn affiliate
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ksat obtained audio of the school district's message alerting parents of an active shooter incident. >> uvalde parents, there is an active shooter at robb elementary. law enforcement is on site. your cooperation is needed at this time by not visiting the campus. >> both the school's facebook post and the audio message according to ksat came during the time that officers were inside the school and apparently believed the situation had become a barricade situation. cnn has learned that chief pete arredondo has stopped cooperating with investigators, failing to respond to a request for a follow-up interview, but he was sworn in as a city council member on tuesday. also funerals will be held today for irma garcia, the heroic teacher who died protecting her students and 10-year-old jose manuel flores jr. family and friends will gather for visitation and rosary services for 10-year-olds nevaeh
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bravo and jailah silguero. let's join shimon prokupecz in uvalde, texas. the fact that this chief is now not cooperating, what does that tell you? >> reporter: so, two things, certainly, you know, the fact he was called out and sort of singled out as the person responsible for why the police did not go in and burst through that door and stop the gunman certainly perhaps has irritated him and he's chosen not to cooperate now in the investigation. look, it is significant. the fact that the texas rangers and the dps, the department of public safety, were leading this investigation, have wanted to go back and ask him questions, follow-up and he has refused to answer those questions, that's pretty significant. but others are pointing to the fact that he wasn't only the senior level person on scene, you had the sheriff, the local


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