hello, everyone. i'm kate bolduan. here's what we're watching at this hour. not cooperating. new questions about uvalde's school police chief. refusing to work with state investigators. cnn speaks to him exclusively. wrong on inflation. biden's treasury secretary admits she was wrong about the soaring prices, the white house scrambling to find a solution. and it just keeps breaking records. the same inflation leading to gas, hitting $8 a gallon in cali california. thank you for being here, everybody. a cnn exclusive. the uvalde school police chief is fighting back against plans that he is not cooperating with investigators. in an exclusive interview with cnn, chief pete arredondo insists he's in touch with the department of public safety.

clarifying another key detail of what happened that day. a teacher say he did close the door that the killer used to get inside the school but the door was not locked. this contradicts an earlier claim by police that the teacher had left the door propped open. the town of uvalde is also continuing to honor more of the victims today. funerals today for a teacher who died protecting her students and also one of the young students killed. let's begin with cnn's shimon prokupecz who is live in uvalde. shimon, you spoke with the police chief. what more did he say about all of these questions that are swirling? >> reporter: well, he's not answering the key questions as to why he made the decision not to send officers in to take the gunmen down, right, the dps, head of the dps, the department of public safety who was running this investigation told us on friday that he was the on-site commander, that he was the one making decisions, and he was the

one who ultimately decided that the police officers should not barge into that room waiting almost over an hour until they finally went in that room. we asked them those questions. when i saw him this morning coming here to his office, i asked him why he made that decision. he wouldn't answer those questions. take a listen to what he said. >> just to let you all know -- >> i know you do. >> just to know, we're not going to do anything, we have people grieving in our community. we're going to be respectful. >> -- that you were responsible for the decision to go to that room. how do you explain yourself? you have an opportunity to explain yourself to the parents. >> and just so you know, we're going to do that eventually, whenever this is done, the families quit grieving, we'll do

that obviously, and just so everybody knows, we've been in contact with dps every day, just so you all know. every day. >> they say you're not cooperating. >> i've been on the phone with them. >> they say you're not cooperating. >> just so you know, we've been talking to them every day. you all have a good day. >> what is your reaction, sir? >> reporter: of course, kate, the investigators telling us yesterday on the record, the department of public safety saying that they've had follow-up questions for the chief, that he has not been returning their calls and that, essentially, he has not been cooperating in that investigation. so they have, certainly, a different take on this. again, as you can see there in the interview, he was dodging the central question here, the decision that he made. he has not been at any of the press conferences. today was the first time this morning we saw aaron cooper at his home and that me and my

producer came here to try and ask him some questions, and sure enough, he showed up here in the back of the building here, and that's when we asked those questions, and of course, you know, kate, talking about the, he's going to wait until the families, you know, finish their grieving, that's never going to happen. and certainly, from the people who we've been talking to out here the last few days, they want answers, kate. they want to know why he made those decisions. the school has yet to answer so many questions, and that's why we are still here. just a short time ago, the school told the police on the media that's gathered here, they want us off the property. that's why you could see the police presence here behind me. we're not going to stop. there's still a lot of questions that we need answered. the door issue, other questions about the police response. so we continue here to ask those questions. we hope to learn more by the end of the week where we're told that the dps who's running this investigation may be releasing a report, kate. >> yeah, i mean, most importantly, it seems that dps

also has a lot of questions they're still working through as we can very well see. thank you, shimon. appreciate it. let's go to the timeline. police in uvalde are forced to correct details on what happened once the shooter entered the campus, this time having to do with whether a teacher allowed the killer to get inside. and also new saudio of the schol district's message to the parents. nick valencia live in uvalde with more on this. hi, nick. >> reporter: hi, kate. there are shifting details when it comes to this case and it's frustrating to us. you can only imagine for those families at the center of this tragedy, and our affiliate, ksat gives us new audio with insight what was going on in the first chaotic moments last tuesday. this audio message sent by the school to uvalde parents while officers were at the school and at least two children were on the phone with 9-1-1 begging for

help. >> uvalde isd parents, an active shooter at robb elementary. law enforcement is on site. your cooperation is needed at this time by not visiting the campus. as soon as more information is gathered, it will be shared. the rest of the school district is under a secure status of a precautionary measure to keep our students and staff safe. we appreciate your cooperation at this time and we will share more information as it becomes available. thank you. >> reporter: we know that many parents made their way to the school anyway, and what can only be described as a chaotic scene ensued as they were held back by law enforcement from going into the officials themselves because they saw the inaction from the police officers that were on the scene, and just quickly just to underscore the shifting

narratives here as far as what happened, starkly different from what we heard last week. the door that was supposed to be, you know, that was initially said to be left open bay teacher we're hearing from the lawyer that the teacher was actually shut, but it didn't lock. we don't know exactly why, kate. >> nick, thank you. so two of the victims of this horrible murder will be laid to rest today. a funeral service is under way now for irma garcia, the teacher, one of the teachers who died trying to protect her students. and this afternoon, there will be the funeral for 10-year-old jose manuel flores jr. his father tells cnn he loved baseball, video games and always full of energy is how his dad puts it. there will also be a visitation and rosary services today for 10-year-old naveah bravo and all of them, you can see their faces.

beginning those processes of grieving for their parents and family and friends. a texas man by the named of trey ganum is donating caskets. he tells cnn he met with the family members to curate designs for each casket. the pictures of the process. the designs inspired by each of the victim's passions from softball to tiktok, and even to spider-man. let's get back to the investigation though at hand and continued scrutiny as we've been hearing this hour of the timeline of what happened that day. joining me now is cnn national security analyst, julia kayyem and cheryl dorsey, with the los angeles police department. julia, you saw this new video exclusive to cnn as we were talking to shimon. the police chief said he is cooperating, in touch with regard to the investigation with the department of public safety, but they had said that he is no longer responding to requests

for a follow-up interview. can both of these things be true? >> no. i mean, this is, i've never seen anything like this, so to some extent, we can criticize public safety response the day of the shooting. this is, as a public information operation, right, these are well known established protocols after any crisis, after any active shooter, you have a single point person representing all the different agencies that have been involved who can validate all the facts. instead, you have here, well, one, you have a lot of different people talking about information we don't know where they got it from. so the story about the door, why did we have an original story that the door was open, because someone said that it was true, and now we have a counterstory. you also have dps, the state, serving as both investigator and judge simultaneously. and i really, from the

beginning, i never understood the political nature of how the state is representing itself, whether it's the governor out in front alleging statements that were just, making statements that were not true to two days later, having to sort of make it about him and defend himself. so you have the locals who are under attack or maybe rightfully so, and dps, an unreliable spokesperson and doj coming in. it's remarkably unfair to the families, of course. it is not professional. there are processes in place. and finally, it means that a lot is going to be left to reporters like shimon and others with us and other agencies to figure out what in fact is reality and not, but i don't trust any of these spokespeople anymore, honestly. >> it seems a lot of people are kind of getting to that place. sergeant, this discrepancy, i don't know, suggests what to

you? does it feel, is it getting to a place where it feels that officials are protecting other officials when the other people that should be protected are the children, the memories and the names of these victims who deserve to have true answers to what happened? >> clearly, they're further victimizing the families of these young children who we've lost unnecessarily. the governor is complicit. the mayor of that town is complicit, and the police chief, he's inept. he's intellectually dishonest, and we can't believe anything they say. they're now protecting the organism, the entity of that department. i believe that police chief checked out emotionally and virtually long ago. we know that he was sworn in to their city council under a curtain of darkness yesterday. so he's a figurehead. he's a warm body on that department right now. and so what he's doing is only

further exacerbating what already should have never occurred and is a tragedy of enormous proportion. >> it's strange and surprising, really, to be quite honest. i mean, julia, the door. this element of the timeline and what was known about the date and changing and being clarified, propping up the door and close the door, the door did not lock. is this a small thing or something bigger when you have a series of wrong information kind of being put out there and what happened? >> so, and part of it is the natural progression of how we come to understand tragedies. i know that's hard for a lot of people who want the facts on day one, but i'm quite familiar with these narratives changing and often they change not because someone is lying or because of malfeasance, although that may be true in this case, but what one person believed to be true. it's like eyewitness accounts, ends up not being true when you hear other eyewitnesses. so this happens very often and

that's why you want an objective, independent investigation rather than everyone, you know, going essentially to their camps at this stage and lodging grenades across this narrative and this tragedy. the other thing, just made this clear every time i'm on about this. this public safety response, arguably, you know, the worst that we have ever seen, although i think we will learn more, hopefully, to understand the press and communication strategy is beyond unprofessional, unfair, and cruel. it's just cruel to the families at this stage. but the third piece is, there's a gunman who had access to guns at the age of 18, and we cannot get distracted from that because of the total malfeasance, negligence, incompetence of that agency. so both stories have to exist simultaneously.

>> great point. sergeant, quickly. the state senator who represents uvalde, roland guterres, he was on with me yesterday and he said he's expecting a full report by friday from dps on where each officer was and when. that is one thing that he says he's asking for and demanding. he is also saying that up next, he's going to be asking for radio transmissions because clearly, you knew children were alive in there. this was not a barricade situation and clearly, communications broke down in a very big way somewhere. how important is this information? >> listen, it's helpful. we already know what happened. it will be corroborated by a formal investigation within that state and also with the department of justice, but what i would like to see as a result of these investigations is some teeth behind their findings. not just recommendations. hey, it would be nice if you could do this going forward, but real teeth and substantive accountability for everybody who had a role to play from the

officers who stood outside the door from the dispatchers who didn't articulate information, and for the police chief who failed ultimately to act on the information that was known. >> cheryl dorsey, juliet kayyem. thank you. senate majority leader chuck schumer has given the bipartisan group of lawmakers who have come together on this one week to make headway. cnn's lauren fox is live on the hill. she's been tracking this. what are you hearing from lawmakers? >> reporter: well, yesterday, a significant zoom meeting happening with senator chris murphy, a democrat from connecticut who is leading these negotiations, as well as senator john cornyn of texas, kyrsten sinema, and tom tillis. that group of four had a productive meting, i'm told by aides, and then hammering out

the specific details of what they might be able to come up with. today, we have another zoom meeting, a different group of lawmakers, although this one also including senator chris murphy. that democrat from connecticut to try to have a larger discussion about what could be possible. because at the end of the day, you need every single democrat on board as well as ten republicans and that is where this heavy lift comes into play. the items they're looking at according to this aide that i talked to yesterday after this significant zoom meeting was just a smaller menu of options, things like incentivizing to pass red flag laws and safe storage laws, more school security. those are obviously not the kind of measures that some democrats had been pushing for the last 20 years. things like an assault weapons ban or limiting the size of magazines, but in the house on the judiciary committee, they're going to be advancing some of the proposals coming back to

washington to try to make it clear that they are going to be working toward this, that they do not want this recess to interrupt the momentum they feel but the package that may pass in the house, that is not going to stand a chance of passing in the senate, kate? >> good to see you, lauren, thank you for tracking that for us. coming up, biden's treasury secretary admitting she was wrong to downplay inflation. what she tells janet yellen about why next.

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now to the president's new urgency to tackle soaring inflation. treasury secretary janet yellen admits to cnn she was wrong when she downplayed the threat of rising prices last year.

listen in. >> i think i was wrong then about the path that inflation would take. as i mentioned, there have been unanticipated and large shocks to the economy that the boost in energy and food prices and supply bottle necks that have affected our economy badly that i didn't at the time fully understand. >> joining me right now, cnn white house correspondent, john harwood and cnn global economic analyst, a global columnist for the financial times. so john, what is the white house saying about this admission from the treasury secretary? how does that fit into this new push we're seeing from them to, trying to show people that they're doing something about inflation? >> you could see the annoyance in the statement that treasury put out after janet yellin's interview to say she was talking about unexpected events and

mentioned the war in ukraine. that sort of thing, but really, janet yellin was simply making a statement of the office. yes, she did not appreciate how much inflation was likely to rise as jerome powell the fed chair didn't anticipate it and many private forecasters. they said at the time in the administration that as they balance the risk, they thought the risks of going small were greater than the risks of going big. they went big. it does appear now that people like larry summers who warn that they were going too big were justified. more overheating of the economy than they expected. what biden has to do now, this is a political problem for him. the substantive handling of the issue is really up to the federal reserve, and so when biden issued his plan yesterday, number one, in about 90% of the plan was saying, i'm going to let the fed do its job.

he's got a political answer in the meantime. >> i want to ask you about that, because "the washington post" wrote about what kind of went on behind the scenes of this new focus and push from the president. here's one that stuck out to me. the flurry of activity comes after privately grumbled to top white house officials after the administration's handling of inflation expressing frustration over the last several months that aides were not doing enough to confront the problem directly. two people familiar with the president's comments said, if that's the case, i wonder how quickly the president expects this team, i mean, to turn this around is a pretty big ask. >> yeah, well, for sure. and look, i think we have to be honest with ourselves and say, you know, the white house takes the blame and the credit for the economy always and every administration, but frankly, it deserves little of either. i mean, the inflation we're seeing now, it's coming from

many variables. sure, you have the supply chain issues. yes, you have some fiscal stimulus. people could argue, maybe it was too much at the wrong time, but you also have decades of low interest rates, you have 15 years of really, just, tons and tons of money being put into the economy post-financial crisis by the federal reserve, so there's a lot of things going on right now, and the idea of a quick fix as politically nice as that might seem is really impossible. it's just not going to happen. also, i give janet yellin a lot of credit, frankly, for being able to say, hey, i was wrong. when was the last time you heard any treasury secretary say that? to me, that's the mark of someone who's confident enough to be able to admit mistakes and course correct. i know her well and she's that kind of person. >> were anyone in elected government or in a cabinet position admitting they're wrong, that's why it's so, i mean, you said it was a statement of the obvious which

is often the thing that's like the last thing to be said, john harwood, is stating the obvious when it comes to federal government. >> reporter: journalists as well as public officials, i would say. >> okay. i agree. you know, you're not looking at me. you're looking at me. >> reporter: i'm not looking at you. >> kidding. let me go to larry summers though. you mentioned him, critical early of the white house and predicted that inflation problems were coming and what we're seeing now. i want to play for you, he spoke, john berman this morning, i want to play what his prediction is now. >> here's the unfortunate, painful fact, and it's true of the u.s. experience and it's true of the experience of other rich countries like it. when inflation is above 4 and unemployment is below 4, you are almost certain to have a recession within the next two

years. now, we may somehow find a way of beating the odds and having a soft landing, but it would be an historic counterexample, not a historic norm, if that proves to be true. >> john, do you think the white house realizes this? >> reporter: sure. they see the risk, but i don't think they think it's more likely than not that there will be a recession, and many outside economists disagreed with larry on that point too. everyone agrees that the risk of recession is elevated now that the federal reserve is undertaking the challenge of trying to bring down inflation. there, the risk, if they're not, excuse me, if they're not skillful enough, they could push the economy into recession but i was talking to mark sandy earlier, the moody economist. he talked to the fed and said the initial moves they made made a strong impression on the market and more likely that

inflation expectations will be contained and make it more likely that the peak in inflation we may be experiencing now is going to be followed by a glide down that will avoid recession. nobody can say for certain what the outcome is going to be and the white house is in that position. >> good to have you here. thank you. coming up, president biden announces that the united states is sending more advanced weapons to ukraine, the assurances that the president required before sending them over. that is next. ♪ you had me at allison® 10-speed transnsmission. ♪ features available on gmc sierra heavy duty. premium and capable. that's professional grade from gmc.

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addressing, kate, some of those concerns that have been coming from the kremlin. a clear red line that the kremlin had made clear it was placing with regard to the range of the multiple launch rocket systems that ukraine has desperately been pleading for some several days. because it has seen all along the line from which i'm speaking to now, separates russian-held ukraine from the rest of the country, russian positions are about 30 miles down the dnipro river where i am now, they've been desperately pleading for these long range weapons systems because they feel the tide of the war is turning against them. the town of donetsk to the north of where i'm standing are falling even as we speak. we heard the confirmation from secretary blinken that what they're sending here are the kind of range missiles that can hit targets within 49 miles and nothing more, and that is crucial because it means that they cannot be directed towards those parts of russia that are within the borders of russia itself and that's something that

antony blinken spoke to specifically a moment ago. >> specifically, with regard to weapons systems being provided, the ukrainians have given us assurances that they will not use these systems against targets on russian territory. >> reporter: so it is about giving ukraine what ukraine needs to fight these battles to win this war, kate, all the time, sending the signal to moscow that they are not seeking to escalate in any way that would worry moscow or allow it to trigger a response, kate. >> good to see you, melissa, thank you for that. joining for more on this, cnn military analyst retired general wesley clark, a former nato supreme allied commander. good to see you, general. first of all, can you tell me about these advanced rocket systems, what can they do and what are their limitations for ukraine? >> well, they're going to extend the battle space for ukraine so ukraine can hit deeper russian targets inside ukraine. also so that these systems can

be moved further out of range from russian artillery. so this is very important. ukraine artillery is outnumbered 2 to 1 by the russian artillery and they're fighting a desperate battle to hold on to donbas and it's an artillery battle. so these systems will provide crucial ability to strike accurately against russian artillery, keep it off the ukrainian troops and enable ukraine to hang on and maybe even regain some of its territory in eastern ukraine. >> you heard the secretary of state saying there that, echoing what the president said in announcing this that one key to this agreement is getting assurances from ukraine, so that ukraine wouldn't be using this to fire into russia and russian territory. what do you think of those assurances? >> well, i think they're good assurances and i think they're appropriate in this case because, as the president has said, we are not trying to start a war with russia. they're making a lot of irresponsible threats to the

west, but the united states and nato are not responding to that. but what we are determined to do is to help ukraine defend its own territory, maintain its territorial integrity, and be politically independent. that's our obligation under the united nations charter and the obligation that the united states is fulfilling. >> the russian spokesman that responded already to this announcement, probably not surprisingly, and the way the kremlin spokesperson put it was that the u.s. is purposefully and diligently adding fuel to the fire. this is one thing that president biden kind of clearly wanted to address in his opinion piece announcing these new weapons because they're very clearly trying to say that they're not trying to, as you're talking about, provoke russia. let me read what he wrote in part to the opinion piece. we do not seek war with nato and russia. as much as i disagree with mr. putin, and find his actions an outrage, the united states will not try to bring about his ouster in moscow. do you think these new weapons

systems heading into ukraine, do you think this has a chance of provoking russia further? >> absolutely not, but it certainly is going to be used by russia in the information war to blame the united states and there's nothing new about this. they've blamed the united states from the beginning. the target for the information war is europe, and the european public opinion, but the united states has to lead nato, it has to have a strong response and our nato allies have to come on board and follow the united states' lead in this and this helps them deal with their own public. there's a battle going on for the public opinion. it happens every time with russia, but the president is showing the right kind of leadership in holding nato together and in supporting ukraine. >> general, i have heard some suggest that they believe these weapons heading over now is too little too late at this point in the conflict. what do you think about that? >> i think it would have been better if we had them like a

month ago or six weeks ago. i've been saying on cnn for the last six or eight weeks, we're in this kcritical time but the united states have done better, but the trouble, kate, they've taken heavy losses there. how heavy, we don't know, but substantial. you can't stay under the county of russian artillery, and not expect to take losses. so these weapons and the other american reinforcement of artillery is absolutely necessary. i wish we could have gotten it there sooner and we have to get this there as soon as possible, but one of the things that's held the biden administration back, of course, the nato leadership and we have to coordinate with our allies on every one of these steps, and the real strength of this is nato. so really important, right away, but not more important than nato consensus and the support of our allies. i think the administration has

done as much as it can reasonably do at this point thinking about all the other constraints. now the question is, how quickly can we get them there and will we follow up the initial with more because we need to keep ukraine in this fight, they want to regain their territory. as the president said, there's going to be no pressure from us on ukraine to negotiate and give away ground. ukraine's going to go as far as it can go, and hopefully, we're there supporting them. they're democratic, they want to be aligned with us, they're fighting nato's battle. this is really important for the united states. >> it's good to see you, general. thank you very much. coming up for us, gas prices jumped 5 cents overnight into a new record high and california is seeing the definition of eye-popping numbers. $8 a gallon gas. details with a live report next.

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what are you hearing about this? >> reporter: it's all relative, right, kate? so we're at this quiktrip gas station in atlanta where the price for unleaded is $4.19. not bad considering it's quite below the national average, as you mentioned, which is $4.67 a gallon but then we've got to compare it to the same time last year, but prices per gallon for regular gasoline was hovering around $3 mark. but i did speak to a handful of drivers here at this gas station. we met one woman who said she had a road trip planned to florida, but she's going to cancel it because she simply can't afford these sky high prices. look, there are seven states here in the country. mostly on the western part of the u.s. where the average price per gallon for regular gas is hovering around the $5 mark. california, of course, as usual in a league of its own. the average price per gallon there is $6.19, and look at

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a new study about a critical covid-19 treatment, researchers taking what could be the first real look at rebound covid where people treated will get better and then rebound again. are they infection? researchers find, yes. joining me for more on this is the chief of staff and lead author. thank you for being here. can you take me through what you found in your study? what's most important here? >> sure. i think the most important thing for people to learn is that this is actually something that happens. it seems to happen relatively often. how often, we don't know. what we see people around nine-to-12 days after they have been diagnosed and treated with

packslovid begin to experience symptoms again, even if they have been symptom-free for as long as a week. at the same time their symptoms come back, the viral load also builds up again to the same levels they actually had initially and that really raised concerns that they may become infectious a second time, even though they're now outside the usual window for being able to transmany it to others. >> this is really important information when we learn more about what we are supposed to do about it. what do you think people should do? should people think twice before taking it if they are infected? >> so, first, we continue to recognize that packslovid has been remarkable in desuppressing

severe illness for people at rivenlg. we don't in anyway discourage people from taking it. we simply want them to be aware if they do take it and their symptoms clear up and then come back again, that they shouldn't have immersed in symptoms that have been mild. the real importance of this as we are looking at it is that we know that the virus now can be cultures. some of our colleagues have done that from people during rebound. we documented a couple of instances where people have transmitted to others during their rebound and so the message really should be that you should restart your isolation clock even if it's now ten days, 11 days or 12 days in rebound to protect others from getting infected as you go through this second cycle of virus building up and then coming down again. >> do you have a theory on why this rebound is happening?

>> so, there are a lot of theories out there. i think it's enough to learn more. first, it's not completely clear to what extent anti-virals are responsible for this. when pfizer's were published by the fda, they showed there was some rebound boat in people who had never been treated as well as in those who had been treated. but that was during the delta era. and we suspect that omicron may be behaving a little bit differently. so some thought is that maybe because packslovid works so well the immune system doesn't get a good look at omicron and doesn't have the same opportunity to develop immunity that it might if it were packslovid. >> sorry. this is information and so much amazing start. thank you, doctor, i appreciate it.

thank you all for being here today. "inside politics" with john king continues after a break.

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