as you say, war time years in which the queen played a part in. for her, this is a real moment of reflecting of something she's done pretty much every year of her reign. >> she looks really well, doesn't she? bianca nobilo is me as well. there they are. kids as well. louis is waving madly at the helicopters. what a moment for him, the youngest of the cambridge children and they're looking out there and seeing what the future holds for them, a whole lifetime of royal engagements ahead for them and for george in particular, knowing he'll be king. charles left to of the queen will be the next king. you see so many optics about his transition in the primary role. but, still, this is really, isn't it, bianca, wouldn't you say looking back on the queen's reign, and celebrating all the positive parts to it. >> she's provided an incredible -- an unparalleled source of continuity for people in britain and across her realms

through extremely turbulent times, and she has remained constant. i think the respect and adoration that remains for her and it is widespread throughout all those huge upheavals is really testament to the way she's carried herself and responded to people throughout her reign. and it is a more respective representation of the monarchy's role to be custodians of the past but look toward the future. >> aircraft coming over, representing the battle of britain. we also have very modern aircraft as well. the military very keen to emphasize that everyone you see involved in the military today are working members of the military. and the ones that are on it in particular, the guards, are involved in the covid response. the queen is head of the armed forces. this is a tribute to her and it is quite something. this aircraft coming over us today, emily, i want to bring in

a couple of absences on the balcony today. when we talk about the core monarchy, ten years ago prince harry was very much part of that. and he's not part of that today. he resigned his royal duties as has meghan and prince andrew. but we're seeing a slight distinction between andrew and the sussexes today. explain that. >> what we have seen today, we haven't actually caught a glimpse of them, the sussexes attending trooping of the color, watching the parade from over the parade ground, not making a public appearance, but very much part of the family unit, where as prince andrew is not making an appearance. >> cast out all together. >> we're not expecting to see him over the course of the next few days. that's a huge moment, you know, as recently as thanksgiving for prince philip, he escorted his mother down the aisle of westminster abbey and i think the reaction to that was such that -- has been taken but he won't make an appearance. >> this is what the queen wants to see as the public representation of her monarchy, people who work, who contribute

to represent her as she is in the twilight of her reign. but she is in fine spirits as ever. she had mobility issues. she had to strip back some of her engagements recently. she was planning to go to the races tomorrow up at epson. she won't do that anymore. look at charlotte covering her ears, that's lovely, to protect her ears from the noise. >> and she seems to be explaining to them what's going on. >> and this is just the first day of four days of commemorations, how many public figures can command two days of the public holiday to give thanks really for their work to the nation. we're all building up really to the spitfires. that's always a big crowd pleaser. you'll see the smoke rising up behind them and they'll finish off this part of the commemoration. tonight they'll be lighting beacons around the commonwealth, a concert tomorrow night here at buckingham palace, and street

parties. louis there really enjoying the moment, i think, what do you think? >> he's a boy of 4. what's not to like about this aerial display. standing next to the queen, the most famous woman in the world and respect for his grandmother, getting commentary from her, that is going to be a very memorable thing. >> bianca, what do you think people who aren't necessarily signed up to monarchy make of what they're seeing today? >> well -- >> they're drowning you out. >> some are from countries from within the commonwealth, new zealand, australia, who are not as enthusiastic and less support for the monarchy then for example the united kingdom. it is this element that queen elizabeth ii transcends public sentiment. there aren't many leaders pushing to try and remove her as head of state while she's still in place. there is a lot of movement and agitation potentially after that

australia and then the new government appointed yesterday specifically for the republic of australia to pursue that agenda. so it is a turbulent moment. it is a challenging time for the future of the british monarchy. >> and, you know, these things are carefully laid out, thought about every single moment of them. to her right is her heir, prince charles, but also to his right is caxhil camille who will be k queen consult. this say representation, i think, probably of the fact that the public are ready to accept her as charles' queen. with diana obviously in the background. >> absolutely i think you have to look back to the -- >> sorry, 70 planes. this is the red arrows.

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seen. we're not going to see another moment like this in our lifetimes. a british monarch who served 70 years on the throne. her next two heirs, you know, unimaginable they're going to be able to achieve that. who knows what is going to happen in the future. but this was a crowd pleaser. if you look at the aerial views, there are huge crowds here and this is really the only time the queen gets a real sense of her doing things right. this is how she can measure how popular she is. she can see it in the eyes of her subjects. so this was a big moment for the queen and for the country, and bianca, would you say this is a big moment for the british people across the board as well as we come out of a difficult period of modern history? >> yes, i have been surprised by the level of cut through this had and people making jubilee plans, but in perspective, i was at a boxing gym yesterday and i was shocked that all those people were making plans for the jubilee as well. whether it is cake competitions,

drinking parties, street parties, it is something the country needs, it has been a difficult time with the pandemic, brexit, and the cost of living crisis. but i would say, max, something that struck me seeing the queen on the balcony there, quite famously noted winston churchill when he met queen elizabeth ii, she was a very little child, i think 2, noted she had an uncommon authority and presence to her. and it is staggering it see at 96 she still commands that balcony. >> she really does. and we will have more events now coming up, emily. what are going to be the highlights for you and the world? >> well, coming up next is beacon lighting. i think it will be moving indeed because the queen is playing a dual role with prince william at that, lighting the beacon symbolically from windsor while he does it at the tree of trees down the way here. i think thanksgiving service will be very moving for her. that's something that matters a great deal to her. >> we might see the sussexes as well. >> we're expecting to see the biggest contingent of the royal

family side by side for the first time. >> and the street parties and bianca has been talking about that. let's just talk briefly about the challenges that have faced the monarchy in recent times. apparently -- yes -- i heard word we're going to see harry and meghan, but i don't think that's possible. let's talk about the challenge they face because obviously these massive rifts behind the scene and prince andrew scandal as well and the queen does survive these things. she had worse before. is an event like this, a massive pr event, effectively, enough to heal that and make us push forward and potentially look ahead to successful reign of king charles or whatever he'll be known as at the time? >> that will be the hope. and the queen will successfully manage to remain above the fray for most of the scandals we have seen. it is interesting because even her reign itself was born out of possibly the greatest scandal of the british monarchy, the

abdication crisis. she would not be queen today had that not happened likely. and she has an incredible way of weathering this. she learned from what happened, whether the welsh mine disaster or princess diana that people want more from her than she may have anticipated and sometimes the british, her personal instinct to be more withdrawn, cannot always be well received. and she is definitely adapted to that as time has gone on. and had to respond to not only the scandal surrounding the sussexes, leaving for america, but i think a lot more crucially here in terms of british public opinion, prince andrew and his civil sexual assault case, excluding him as -- >> we don't know if we'll see him at all during any of the ceremonies but we'll wait to see. speaking to the sussex team last night, they are here, they're here with the kids, they were due to be at horse guards today in the building with the rest of the royal family. we didn't see them, but i've been told they were there.

emily, my understanding really is they have come over here to stick to the script and they are only going to be going to official engagements and not going to be organizing any parallel engagements. do you think this is them reaching out, trying to heal the rift of potentially finding a role in the family if not the working monarchy? >> i imagine that has been an agreement made between their team, between the royal ha household and members of the family. this is about the queen and showing a united front. it is very important to the queen that her family is seen to be one whole unit, you know, difficult as the last couple of years have to have a line drawn over them, i think. and they're absolutely going to stick to that script. >> it might be the first time i believe that queen elizabeth would meet lilibet, her namesake, after her pet name as a child. >> for the kids to meet, the cambridge and the sussex kids. >> absolutely. who doesn't want to see those photographs? >> i don't know what photos we'll see.

we'll take it as it goes. the atmosphere is buzzing. people are excited about having some good news and excited about seeing the queen look so well. she was beaming during that fly past. >> who isn't a big fan of an air show? thank you for sharing that with us, all of you, i appreciate it. back in the united states, there is new information on the botched police response to the uvalde school massacre. what the town's mayor just said about an attempt to negotiate with the shooter. and new shipments of baby formula about to arrive in the united states as president biden makes a surprising admission. and for first time, we're hearing from someone on the inside of the january 6th investigation, what he says he is horrified by what he found. hybrid work is here. it's there. it's everywhere. but for someone to be able to work from here, there has to be someone here making sure everything is safe. secure. consistent. so log in from here. or here. assured that someone is here ready to fix anything.

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very specific purpose. >> cnn's lucy kafanov is live for us in tulsa, oklahoma, with details. lucy, what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, that's right, brianna, you heard the police captain there, the gunman knew exactly where he was heading, the orthopedic center at st. francis hospital behind me, dispatchers receiving a call shortly after 4:50 p.m. local yesterday, initially about someone with a rifle, when officers responded to the scene rather quickly, they heard gunshots. that's what directed them to the second floor. now, according to captain richard meulenberg who you heard in your intro, he told cnn that officers ran up the stairs, the shooting stopped at that point, they entered the facility, they saw one victim, the first victim, then they found the next victim and then they found the shooter, the gunman who had apparently shot himself with a pistol, police say. one person was also shot at the

medical facility behind me transported out and died. so five people losing their lives in total, including the gunman. the suspect was found with two firearms, described as a semi-automatic rifle and a semi-automatic pistol. police say both weapons appear to have been discharged at some point or another. it was unclear whether the four people killed were medical staff or civilians, we know that authorities are still notifying the victims or were as of yesterday evening. no officers were injured at this time. police telling cnn multiple people were wounded, witnesses describing chaos, hundreds of rooms there, multiple floors, police having to search the facility, room by room, floor by floor, but at this point, five people dead, including the shooter. guys? >> all right, lucy, thank you so much for the very latest from tulsa, we appreciate it. uvalde, texas, four more young victims being laid to rest

today. and cnn has new details about the initial response to the shooting at the robb elementary school. uvalde's mayor says a would be negotiator frantically tried to get the gunman on the phone, but he didn't answer. >> the only person i have communication with when the negotiator was trying to get the shooter on the phone and so forth, i was in the room. the moment he went in that classroom, they started calling for him. i wasn't there at the initial, but at the moment he went in that classroom, they were trying to get numbers and call. >> joining us now from uvalde, cnn's shimon prokupecz. what did we learn from the mayor there? >> reporter: well, look, that is certainly interesting, it is not the first time, john, we're hearing about a negotiator being present. but it goes goens against all t protocols we have heard from law enforcement officials, people who study and teach people to deal with active shooter situations. it just goes against it. you don't bring a negotiator

into this. this is something that we need more information on. obviously everything we get here, john, as you know, has to be scrutinized now because the stories keep changing, the information keeps changing. the mayor obviously also talking about being in the room, being present during this time when the police were on scene during the moments of the shooting. he also talked about not hearing any of the 911 call dispatches, whether or not there is this question of whether or not the police officers on scene were getting real time information from the 911 calls that were coming from inside the classroom. we need to know more about that, john. >> and subject of what was going on inside the classroom. cnn affiliate ksat spoke to a dps trooper at the scene and happened to be a good friend of eva mireles, one of the teachers who died in the shooting. we're hearing more about her and the conversations she had. >> reporter: yeah, look, this is

obviously very emotional and very important part of this story. this dps officer, friends with her, he says he was with her in the final moments. also interestingly enough, her husband is a school police officer, she was on the phone with him, according to "the new york times," spoke to a local official. but, listen to the dps officer here, describing the moments he was with eva mireles. >> it was an honor to spend the last moment with eva as she left this earth and to a greater place. eva is a fighter. and she did everything she could to protect her babies. and that's her students. so we know she did everything she could. and she protected them to her last breath. >> reporter: and, john, certainly by all accounts, you

talk to people here, officials here who have been briefed and who know a lot about what was going on in those final moments in the classroom, they will tell you those teachers were heroes as they tried to protect the kids, the children from all the gun fire. but, john, again, there is still so many questions here in the hour when all the teachers and all those children were inside the classroom, the 911 calls, what was going on, what were officers who were standing outside that door doing, what information was being relayed to them? and what decisions were being made and why? we still don't know. it could become even more difficult to get that information now, john, because the district attorney here now is preventing officials from talking about this because she is launching sort of like her own investigation, and she's deciding on whether or not any criminal charges are going to come, so now officials are telling us, well, we have to defer everything to the d.a., so it could potentially become much more difficult to get information here, john. >> even so, i know you're

pressing for answers. shimon prokupecz, thank you for being there for us. >> reporter: oh, yes. the january 6th committee obtains evidence of a separate plan to overturn the 2020 election. one that can be used as criminal evidence. and coastal communities from maine to north carolina to florida are spending millions of dollars to maintain their shores. see the devastating and costly impact of rising sea levels.

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more powerful, one after the other. until a video like that goes viral. millions around the coastal residents around the world looking at that and thinking could we be next? how far away is this for us? we came here to the gorgeous outer banks to try to get some context and it is like walking through a slow motion disaster. >> this home we have been notified by the dare county buildi ing inspector is in a ste of imminent collapse. >> reporter: this beach ran hundreds of feet toward the horizon. >> i don't believe it is even high tide yet. >> reporter: now the water is at the doorstep in this part of north carolina's outer banks and a beach is eroding by a dozen feet a year. >> you expect next year 12 to 15 feet back and the next year and the next year and the next year. >> reporter: i see. while most locals understand that barrier islands move over time, few imagined this would happen this fast.

especially the new owner of this $275,000 getaway, who never got a chance to sleep here, before a immediate oaker storm took it away. or the half million dollar place that collapsed a few days earlier and spread nail-filled debris along 15 miles of public beaches. at least nine more houses on this stretch are condemned. and the sea is taking more than just houses. >> this is our heritage. >> reporter: look at that. wow. oh, my goodness. it is right there on the edge. as a proud daughter of the outer banks, dawn taylor spends her days trying to save the graves. >> we're missing the remains of our loved ones due to the tide up and down the coast. we have multiple cemeteries here that have met their demise due to the rising sea level. >> reporter: when you think about the lives, the history, the families, that we're talking

about, you put it in those terms, the fundamental question of the age of sea level rise is what is worth saving, and who can afford to save it? >> we watch the water bubble up through those vents into the house. >> reporter: down the carolina coast in charleston, they decided to raise their mansion with a system of hydraulic jacks. can i ask what something like this costs? >> my answer is many hundreds of thousands of dollars. >> reporter: right. >> it is something that will hopefully last another 100 year s. >> reporter: the seawall would only protect the most valuable 20% of the city. >> this house was actually moved to -- this is a new location. >> reporter: back in the outer banks, some are moving their houses as far as they can afford. >> they moved it from right there to right there. >> i think that was as far as they could go.

>> reporter: knoaa projects a foot of sea level rise here, with ten times as many flooding events like this one which filled driveways with five feet of sand. >> this isn't just happening on the outer banks. it is happening around the world. this is a story about anybody who lives anywhere near the ocean from southern maine to padre island. these processes are happening everywhere. >> reporter: it is not as evident on the mainland because states, counties and towns dredge, pump and truck millions of dollars worth of sand so tourists and real estate buyers will keep coming. >> if you start a nourishment program, when is the next one? five years, seven years down the road. you get to that point and you have to think about the economics, $20 million, $30 million. >> reporter: if you play that out, it comes down to have or have not communities fortifying themselves. >> it is challenging when it comes down to the tax base. it is not that we can't work with the environment, we can't work with the change, we can.

and we have for years. >> reporter: you can't do it the way you used to do it. >> we've got to do it differently. >> all right, we -- >> reporter: near rodanthe, cape hatteras, one just went down, there is so much woody debris, nails, strung up and down the beaches, it costs about $50,000 for a homeowner to clean up after the house goes in. one of these owners said he called his insurance company and said will you pay for me to move it. they say no. we just have to wait for it to fall into the ocean before you can file a claim. they cut the power on the houses. alerted the owners to what's happening here. but we already have seen a couple of these houses moving back. so some folks will move with the island as it erodes westward. but this is really a stunning sort of cautionary tale for so many beach communities, brianna, around the country. if you're not talking about this, not thinking about the future, whether you can afford a

beach nourishment plan, which they don't do in incorporated townships like this, a lot of national park around us here, it should be the top of mind for so many folks near our coasts. >> yeah. the cost is staggering. and the alarm is being sounded. bill weir, thank you so much for that very important report. a big legal victory for johnny depp in his defamation case against his ex-wife amber heard. what her lawyer said just moments ago. plus, why one former republican congressman who investigated january 6th says he was horrified by text messages his team uncovered. [ marcia ] my dental health was not good. i had periodontal disease, and i just d didn't feel well. but then i found clearchoice. [ forde ] replplacing marcia's teeth with dental implants at clearchoice was going to afford heher that permanent solution. [ marcia ] clearchoice dental implants gave me the ability to take on the world. i feel so much better, and i think that that is the key.

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in a cnn exclusive, daniel riggleman, who helped the january of 6th committee, told anderson cooper about the messages he found in a trove of texts from former trump white house chief of staff mark meadows. listen. >> i think what people are going to understand about the meadows text messages is how horrible they are. i have to tell you this, anderson, when i first saw them, my bemusement turned into horror pretty quickly when i saw some

of the language that was being used in there. i had to get away from the computer as a was looking at the text messages. and starting november 3rd, november 4th in the meadows text messages to the end it is a road map and i would have to say at this point i think mark meadows is the mvp for the committee. >> one week from tomorrow, the january 6th committee will hold the first of eight public hearings this month after nearly a year's work. joining me now cnn political analyst and "new york times" senior political correspondent maggie haberman. daniel riggleman there saying that basically the text messages made him sick, they are a road map, a road map to what? >> look, they clearly are a road map. i actually have had this conversation with people both working on the investigation and my own colleagues that if this committee did not have meadows texts, i'm not sure what they would have. they paint a clear portrait of what was being discussed, who he was talking to. where it all goes from here, we have seen some of the text

messages, they are stunning. i assume there are others we haven't seen that we will learn about, but what it adds up to it after the public hearings, where this is all going i think is a big open question. there is no question that the events of january 6th were horrifying to watch. what happens? do people get held accountable? we know a lot of people involved in the riot have been charged. does anyone else get charged beyond contempt of congress? we'll see. >> what do you think the stakes are for next week. in some ways we have known the hearings are coming but i also think they're sneaking up on us. they're a big deal. >> one set of stakes is for the country, that set of stakes is about the fact that what took place after november 3rd in the leadup to january 6th, there were aspects of it we have seen before in previous elections, mostly court challenges. and there were decidedly aspects we have not, conversations about at least in modern history, conversations about the insurrection act, conversations about seizing the apparatus of

the elections. that is important, i think to remind the public what we were talking about and how close things came to the brink. in terms of what it -- more immediately means in terms of explaining the investigation, i do think the committee has set a pretty high expectation for what might come out of these hearings. we have heard repeatedly, i think, that the former congressman said it, the current members of the house have said it, who are work on this investigation, there is going to be evidence that will blow the roof off the capitol essentially. they have to make good on that. >> it is interesting, one of the things they said is the viewer will get to see and make his or her own judgment about donald trump's role that day, how involved he was. one thing whether or not they think was a big role or not a big role, is what he did that day. >> to me, one of the most important outstanding questions and we still don't know exactly what the shape of these hearings is going to look like, to the extent they -- who the witnesses will be and so forth, but to the extent they focus on that 187 i believe it is minutes during which he was in the white house

as this riot is playing out, what he was doing, that is the piece we know the least about. the least public information has been available about, there is a lot of information about the house and about the congressional leaders and some aides in the white house, but exactly what trump was up to, what he was saying, i think is going to be incredibly important and i think we will be learning a lot more about that in the come weeks. >> on another note, gas prices, $4.72 a gallon, which is very high. >> that's a lot. >> president biden asked about this basically all the time. yesterday at the white house what he said is he said, look, there is not that much he specifically can do about it. listen. >> the idea we're going to be able to, you know, click a switch, bring down the cost of gasoline, is not likely in the near term, nor is it with regard to food. >> what do you think of that? >> it is not wrong.

that is true. there is not a switch that they can flip, but it is just so in contrast and the thing i'm struck about biden saying things like this, as he has throughout his term so far, and we are, you know, a year and a half into the term, he was elected on the idea that he had this enormous will of empathy and he was sort of able to communicate empathy with people and there are times when he can, and scenarios when he can. but just talking about people's everyday lives as opposed to his frustration that he's getting questioned about these things the same way every president gets questioned about them has been a little surprising. i don't think that, you know, the average voter wants to hear that, even though it is true. and unfortunately a lot of the political system does involve saying things that, you know, are meant to comfort people, even if they don't provide an immediate answer. >> do you have a sense talking to democrats what they want to see or hear from him in the months leading into november? >> there is a couple of things, john. the landscape has certainly changed because of what we expect will be his position on roe v. wade and that's a big one. and there are other court issues as well. but in terms of the economic

piece, they just want to hear a more specific focused message. they want to hear him addressing people. one of the things so striking about this white house is how little biden makes from the bully pulpit. we don't see him do a lot of speeches, we don't see him do a lot of direct one on one with reporters or with the public, and in moments like this, that costs the president. >> maggie haberman, great to see you. >> you too. coming up for us, a blunt admission from president biden, along the same very lines, this time about the baby formula crisis. >> did the ceos tell you they understood it would have a very big impact? >> they did, but i didn't. ) (♪ ♪) can a cream really reduce wrinkles? in blind clinical testing more than one hundred women tried revitalift triple power moisturizer, following dedicated clinical protocol.

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but right now many shelves still remain empty. cnn's adrienne broaddus is live for us at a supermark net chicago. what are you seeing there? >> reporter: good morning, brianna. if you take a look on aisle 4, everything is in stock except for when you get to this section of the aisle. that's when you notice the emptiness. there are three cans here of similac advanced. if you're in the chicago area, we're on the city's far south side in the beverly neighborhood. this family-owned grocery store, county fair, they have been in business for 58 years. but the fact that they have some cans of formula here is rare. the manager tells me they received a shipment last friday. but they already have been notified they won't be able to get another shipment for some time. and if you drive around town, not only here in chicago, but across the country, parents are frantically searching, looking for formula.

we spoke with a mother in peoria, illinois, her daughter has a rare genetic disorder, and depends on specialty formula and she hasn't been able to find it. her daughter, brooklyn, is tube fed. listen in. >> this formula shortage, it has been a complete nightmare for me and my family. her body can't break down animal fats and proteins and the amino acid based formula is the only formula she can tolerate and gain weight and thrive on. the fact it is not available anymore is very scary. >> reporter: that was weeks ago when we spoke with her and i followed up with her this week. the same story. she has been searching online, her family has been driving from county to county to try to find that formula. and she had relatives ship her formula. this is not the formula her daughter depends on. if she were it walk in this store, she couldn't purchase this can because it would not

help her child. i will tell you she says her daughter goes through one can every two days. so this is one can, it will feed her daughter for about two days, a can of this size. there are three cans here. so that's about maybe a week's worth of formula for some parents. they're desperately hoping this formula shows up on shelves soon. brianna? >> adrienne, thank you so much for that report, we do appreciate it. so after meeting with formulamakers, president biden conceded that he didn't understand how much the abbott plant shutdown in february would affect supplies. here's how he responded when pressed by our kaitlan collins. >> i don't think anyone anticipated the impact of the shutdown of one facility. >> didn't the ceos just tell you that they understood it would have a very big impact? >> they did. but i didn't. >> and kaitlan's with us now on

this. they did, but i didn't. what did you think of that answer? >> it was remarkable because the president had just spent this meeting where he was meeting with these top five baby formula manufacturers, talking about the impact that the closure of this abbott nutrition plant had. that was back in the middle of february. this is what really exacerbated the problems that adrienne was talking about there. and the president went around and asking each of them if they understood what kind of impact, just how severe this shortage was going to be if that plant had closed. and almost every single one of them said yes, they knew immediately it was going to cause issues. the senior vice president of rickets said the day that closure happened in mid-february, they were on the phone with retailers saying you need to order what you can because this is going to cause issues. and so it was remarkable the president being very blunt there saying that they understood that it was going to be an issue, he did not. and i think it raises questions of why that was not communicated to the president sooner, that that was going to be such an issue. whether it is these industry executives talking to the fda,

talking to hhs and communicating to the president they were going to have to take some actions here and what happens with the president's own staff because he later told us it was weeks after that plant closure had happened that he really began to understand the severity of the shortage that was going to be happening. and the shortage was already weeks into happening by then when this already happened. >> let's listen to what he said about when he became aware of this. >> i became aware of this problem sometime in -- after april -- in early april, about how intense it was. and so we did everything in our power from that point on, and that's all i can tell you right now. >> let me ask you this, careen jean-pierre, the press secretary, says there has been a whole of government approach since day one of the recall, which was in february. how is that even possible if the president which clearly he's a key part of government doesn't know about this until april by his own admission. >> and the president is the one

who has the authority to invoke the defense production act, which he did recently. and launched this initiative to try to speed up imports of formula to the united states. all steps that are not solving this crisis right now immediately as adrienne noted there. there are still empty shelves, but they could have helped. there are big questions about whether or not those steps could have been taken by the white house sooner. and i think what's important to keep in mind here is not just this february date of when this plant closed, because remember the fda commissioner was on capitol hill, under fire from democrats and republicans for why the fda acted so slowly if they got complaints about the facility last fall, they didn't interview people until december, they didn't move to close the factory until february. so there are big questions about whether or not if they had understood just how big of a problem this was going to be, why they didn't start talking about it last fall and started coming up with a plan b and plan c so these desperate parents who are struggling to get formula for their children who need specialized formulas aren't in the position that they're in now, driving hours to go and get it, searching at these stores.

and so that's a big question just not about the larger whole of government approach that the white house says they have been taking, but why the president himself doeidn't learn of this problem sooner. >> i don't know if there is much more that can undermine faith in government than its inability to deal with people trying to feed their children. they should have seen this coming. great questions. thank you so much for being with us today. we appreciate it. john, back to you. all right, so just in, after the jury sided with johnny depp in the defamation trial against amber heard, her lawyer said just a short time ago that she believes social media influenced the jurors. that's ahead. stay with us. [♪] if you have diabetes,

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