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war of attrition? i'm michael smerconish in philadelphia. is vladimir putin correct to believe the west will lose its resolve with regard to the war in ukraine? this week "the washington post" reported that a well-connected russian billionaire said putin didn't expect the west's strong unified response to the conflict, but now he's tried to reshape the situation and he believes that in the longer term he will win. adding that putin is a very patient guy. he can afford to wait 6 to 9 months. he controls russian society much more tightly than the west can control its society. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy has estimated that he needs 7 billion in aid a month
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just to keep the country running. this news coming on the heels of a politico report that says, concerns are mounting on capitol hill about the administration's ability to properly account for all the money and weapons heading to ukraine. it's coming under increased scrutiny from members of both parties from progressive elizabeth warren to libertarian ran paul. some lawmakers warning the administration that a future aid package for ukraine could lose the overwhelming support past efforts have had if the pentagon doesn't step up its oversight on previously allocated funds. with no cease fire or peace agreement in sight, the fight between ukrainian and russian forces slogs on. zelenskyy, this week told lawmakers in luxembourg that nearly 12 million people have been internally displaced since the russian invasion started. he also conceded that russian forces are advancing in the eastern part of ukraine, and now control a greater amount of territory than they did before the war started.
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>> translator: as of now, nearly 20% of our territory is under thl of occupiers it's a blunt a of the slow but substantial gains the kremlin has made since the war began. this is now nato secretary jens stoltenberg described the current state of the conflict after meeting with president biden this week. >> wars are fought and in nature are unpredictable, and therefore we just have to be prepared for the long haul because what we see is that this war has now become attrition where the ukrainians are paying a high price for defending their own country. >> but the delivery of 700 million worth of new sophisticated weaponry by the u.s., which would have been unthinkable in the war's earliest days, could change the
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dynamics on the battlefield. this week "the new york times," president biden penned an essay explaining that, quote, we will provide ukrainians with more advanced rocket systems and munitions that will enable them to more precisely strike key targets on the battlefield in ukraine. further along he attempted to dispel any fears of a nuclear conflict breaking out calling russia's rhetoric throughout the conflict dangerous and extremely irresponsible. quote, let me be clear, any use of nuclear weapons in this conflict on any scale would be completely unacceptable to us as well as the rest of the world. and would entail severe consequences. with me now to discuss is admiral james staph reets, he spent more than 30 years in the navy, rising to become the supreme allied commander of nato. he's also the author of the brand new book "to risk it all:nine conflicts and the crucible of decision." admiral, is time on vladimir putin's side? >> i don't think so, michael. and you know, we ought to begin
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by saying putin has been the master of miscalculation since this thing began. he underestimated volodymyr zelenskyy. he thought he was a former comedian. turns out the guy is like winston churchill. he underestimated the fighting spirit of the ukrainian people. putin told his troops, you'll be greeted with bottles of vodka when you invade. well, they were greeted with bottles of flammable liquid called molotov cocktails. underestimated the will to put sanctions on him. point one, putin is the miscalculator here. point two is, before we decide that putin is really succeeding here, let's put that in perspective. and you know this, michael. his objective was to conquer the entire country, to take 100% of it. he's taken an additional 5%. in other words, he was in
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control of 15% of the country before this thing started. now in control of 20%. i would say even giving him the benefit of the doubt of okay, he now controls 20% of the country on an objective of 100%. that's a failing grade. having said all that, sure. we ought to worry about the will and the ability of the west to hang together over time. and some would say, oh, look at afghanistan. we folded our cards. we hung in there for 20 years. and oh by the way, we didn't fold in world war i. we didn't fold in world war ii. we didn't fold in colombia. we didn't fold in the balcans. bottom line, no, i don't think time is on vladimir putin's side. >> okay. so, i agree with everything you've said. it's accurate up until now. some of the conflicts that you identified were not conflicts where we were direct
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participants, like the balcans. we're fickle and we have midterms coming and people are paying at the pump and americans are supportive of ukraine, i've seen polling data, you've seen polling data what matters more to voters is inflation. and then throw in the food situation. i'm going to read to you something that comes from the head of the russian security council. so maybe you'll take it with a grain of salt. he says -- the world is gradually falling into an unprecedented food crisis. tens of millions of people in africa or middle east will turn out to be on the brink of starvation because of the west. in order to survive they will flee to europe. i'm not sure europe will survive the crisis. the combination of gas prices at home, food crisis overseas, might that put time on the side of putin? >> certainly it is worth
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worrying about and addressing. so let's take energy first. critical that the west begin the process of the great rewiring, which is what i would call what needs to happen to the energy systems and delivery around the world. and it's everything from gas in europe to fuel in sub-saharan africa. that's happening and happening by market forces, frankly. that's going to create discontinuities. there will be continued upward pressure on energy prices. yes, it's a concern. but that can be addressed over time. i think it will be reasonably well. on food, i think this is a looming tower. i agree in the sense of the russian's comment that there could be a global food crisis and there is a solution to that. by the way, that would be opening up the grain of ukraine which is bottled up in ukraine right now and considering
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creating humanitarian maritime operations. escorting grain tankers in. the grain comes out. you do it through international waters, ukrainian waters. is it confrontational? maybe. does it create some risk? sure. but that would be a way to approach solving that end of the problem. again, bottom line, yes, there will be discontinuities. i for one do not see the west simply cracking in the face of russian claims of difficulties ahead. >> all right. i know how you are voting then today on the daily survey question. good luck with the book. it's terrific. i really appreciate your being here. >> thanks, michael. >> thank you, admiral. what are your thoughts at home? go to my facebook page or tweet me. i'll read responses. katherine what do we have. i thought russia was facing massive economic sanctions and
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embargoes not to mention the war is about preserving democracy in the face of autocracy. why in the world would the west blink first? the west would blink first i'll speak with regard to domestic politics because we have midterms on the horizon and american voters, although i believe we're supportive of ukraine and i hope that remains the case, i think with looming inflation and gas prices and other concerns, it might not be the priority. that's why i'm asking the question today. you heard the admiral rattle off a whole host of examples where we did not weaken in our resolve. he's optimistic in thinking this won't be in any different. go to my website at and answer this week's survey question. here it is vladimir putin correct in believing the west will lose its resolve with regard to the war in ukraine? up ahead, when it comes to electric vehicles, elon musk is clearly a trend setter. but what about his plans for a return to work? he's demanding the tesla workers come back into the office for at least 40 hours per week or face
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firing. what will that mean? maybe an end to work day activities like this? scott galloway is here to discuss. plus, "top gun:maverick" has driven movie watchers into theaters. ♪ ♪ i'm the latest hashtag challenge. and everyone on social media is trying me. i'm trending so hard that “hashtag common sense” can't keep up. this is going to get tens and tens of views. ♪ ♪ ( car crashing ) ♪ ♪ but if you don't have the right auto insurance cerage, you could be left to pay for this... yourself. call a local agent or 1-888-allstate
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said that employees can continue to work from home forever, if they prefer. musk followed up with an email to executives he has a, quote, super bad feeling about the economy and he wants to cut about 10% of tesla's work force, which numbered 100,000 at the start of the year. joining me now is scott galloway, professor at new york university stern school of business. he's a serial sbre neerl and founded nine companies and author of multiple books most recently "post corona from crisis to opportunity" what is going on? is he going to have trouble holding on to employees? >> good to be with you, michael. you summed it up. this is cultural societal statement attempt to reduce his severance payment. he stated he wants to lay off 10% of tesla's employees. keep in mind, this isn't shocking. they've grown from 50,000 employees to 100,000 just in the last three years.
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so, wanting to tighten the belt a little bit is entirely understandable. and if you think about severance payments plus extended benefits, if that's 10,000 people, 50,000 bucks a pop, you're talking about half a billion dollars. i think this is just an attempt to reduce the severance costs by letting people opt up. i have high school students at home now. and when they want to break up with someone, they're mean to them hoping that person will break up with them. this is hoping decent amount of his work force breaks up with tesla and reduces his severance cost. >> what happened to the old it's not you, it's me routine? >> that's right. that's right. >> that's just a little levity. so, what is the trend? because you engrained in me when i read your most recent book, that the pandemic is best thought of as an accelerant, right? it's going to fuel things that. >>reporter: will in motion. are we ever going back to work in the workplace as it existed?
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>> we're definitely going back. we're just not going back as often. if you look at the people whether jamie dimon of elon musk saying get back to the office, these are people who grew up and become very successful as evidenced by their position to make these statements in the before times. when showing up to an office, putting on a tie, was the way you became successful. we're probably going to end up somewhere the middle. we have an easier time processing information at either 0, not going back at all, like airbnb or twitter or going back full time, just like before, like jp morgan or goldman. the reality is majority of companies will be somewhere the middle, like an apple. the one thing i would say, michael, and when ever we're together we talk about how does this impact young people. my advice to young people starting their careers is absolutely to get back into the office. your career are trajectory is a function of proximity.
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every promotion there's two or three qualified people. that promotion will go to the best relationship with decider. relationships are proximity of decider. before you start collecting dogs and kids, get back in the office. but the office place will never be the same again. the office i worked at at sixth avenue and morgan stanley pre-covid had 8,500 people a day in the building. now running at 500 or 1000. things permanently shifted here. >> right. which speaks to the ripple effect this will have on among other things the real estate market. do you share elon musk's gut feeling as to the general health of the economy? >> yeah, but i've been waiting for a recession for five years. what's interesting if you look at jamie dimon and david sul man and elon musk, they're like weather men saying a storm is coming but you look outside and it's sunny. the data doesn't reflect yet a recession. what you are seeing among the
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unicorn class of growth companies seen their stocks off anywhere between a third if you're amazon or tesla to 80 or 90% if you're snap or coinbase, you're seeing an exceptional mark down in the valuation of some of these stocks. now whether i think most people would agree we're headed towards rougher economic times, whether or not it's a hard landing or soft landing, you know, my guess is as good as your's. so far the data doesn't foot to the doom and gloom these individuals are speculating or projecting. >> do you watch professor galloway, musk becomes increasingly partisan or perception of him as a partisan person where up until now the guy has been staunchly independent with how he's conducted himself, the candidates he's supported. all of a sudden like so much else around us, he becomes fodder for the left and the right. >> it's a really interesting point, michael. i don't understand it. remember when michael jordan got a certain amount of grief for
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not taking stands on social issues. i don't understand why elon musk would purposefully cement himself one political direction or another because if you look at the majority of people who buy teslas, it's not republicans and mitch mcconnell's kentucky. it's people in san francisco, it's people in new york who probably lean left. so i would argue that positioning himself as a far right or not even far right but as right is going to turn off a lot of potential customers. i don't understand it. makes no sense to me that he would decide to cement his political leanings. i think most ceos decide they're republicans and democrats and stay out of it. it was a strategic error to bear hug the right on his part. >> bottom line, we're not going back to work the way we used to, although some among us, the younger ones, ought to. it's probably going to be a hybrid model going forward?
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>> 100%. i think it will be more like the apple model. and also there's opportunity here. if you look at the amount of time to put on a pantsuit, blow dry your hair, commute into work, you might be unlocking ten hour of additional time to self care, care for your children, care for the elderly, make more money, so there's a dramatic unlock for people especially care givers who we want to keep in the work force to better have more mental health, better self care, but it will probably be a mix of the two. it's not going to be 0-1. it will be somewhere in between. but we're seeing dramatic acceleration of a trend already in place, people spending more time at home and they can be productive at home. >> scott galloway, thank you as always. >> thanks, michael. good to see you. >> you, too. more social media reaction now from smerconish, twitter and facebook and youtube. he's correct. being in the same room promotes the sharing of ideas and solutions better than any remote approach. you're saying he's correct meaning elon musk, i'm sure.
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i think scott makes a hell of a point when he says -- i just think about my own early life work experiences, being mentored by so many individuals who were willing to take me under their wing, you just can't do that remotely with the same ease. so, if you're in your 20s and there's an office to go to, i'm with scott. get to the office. i want to remind you, go to my website at and answer this week's survey question, please. is vladimir putin correct, he believes that the west is going to lose its resolve with regard to the war in ukraine. and up ahead, "top gun:maverick ""huge opening made hollywood very happy as well as the pentagon which cooperated with the film makers and hopes that it ups navy recruitment. some like my next guest say be careful. could be propaganda. and candidate joe biden once vowed to make saudi arabia a pariah, now he's contempt plaiting a visit he might meet the man responsible for the
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this week brought good news for a struggling hollywood. "top gun:maverick" earned $160 million domestically in four-day opening weekend. but that was also good news for the u.s. navy, which granted access to military assets for the film's producers in return for unspecified amount of input about the script. what role does the pentagon play in america's military theme movies and tv shows and does it rise to the level of propaganda? paramount pictures reportedly paid $11,000 and change per hour to use the advanced fighter
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planes known as fa-18 superhornets and footed all the fuel bills even though per pentagon regulations cruise couldn't actually touch the controls. the navy's military supervisor on the film told the new york post, quote, this didn't cost us a thing. paramount reimbursed the taxpayers and every penny was sent back to the treasury, but we did it for recruiting and retention. how important is that? well, according to a recent piece from the u.s. naval institute, the service could struggle to meet its fiscal year 2022 goal of bringing in 40,000 enlisted sailers and 3,800 officers. of course, many anti-war, anti-military movies the pentagon does not cooperate with. for example, deer hunter, apocalypse now, platoon and another tom cruise vehicle, born on the fourth of july, in the quest of good pr, what kind of control does the military exert over the movies and tv shows its helped.
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trying to find out, my next guest roger stall working with the team of researchers, acquired 30,000 pages of internal d.o.d. documents which show the penalty gone and c.i.a. have exercised direct editorial control over more than 2,500 films and television shows. the findings are in the documentary he directed theaters of war how the pentagon and c.i.a. took hollywood. >> you can call it censorship, you can call it propaganda. it's all of these things. >> we worked with since armageddon, if i'm not mistaken. and hope to do more of the same. >> direct line to the pentagon. >> roger stall joins me now. he's also a communications studies professor at the university of georgia. he recently published this piece in the l.a. times -- why does the pentagon give a helping hand to films like top gun? professor, how does this work? i'm a film maker. i have a script i would love to use a battleship, love to use an
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airplane. what do i do and where do i do it? >> well, you go into one of the offices in wiltshire boulevard the navy, air force or army keeps for outreach purposes and you ask them, do you want to give us access to installations, equipment or personnel in exchange for, in this case, access to editorial rights over the script. you hand over your script in order to get the goods. >> it sounds to me like there's a lurking first amendment issue there, right? if i'm making -- if i'm cope la and making apocalypse now, don't i have the same right as bruk heimer making maverick? >> you do. and the pentagon will say quite openly in public that we're not censors. we allow you to make your movie in the way that you want to do
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it. but, you know, it tilts the playing field because we're talking about an economic advantage that is given to some film makers and not to others. >> what's a show stopper? >> a show stopper is anything that the military flags as being sort of nonstarter in terms of what's in their script. so if they find something like war crimes, torture, disparaging the military in any way, not showing the military in a competent capacity, not depicting the military as, you know, being ultimately the first kind of -- not showing the military as a noble enterprise, that would be a show stopper for
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the military. >> all right, listen, you're struggling for your words. i'm going to help you. give me an example, give me an example, of something that they wanted to put the kabosh on. >> i'll give you an example from the 1990s. this was a film that most people who have not seen the documents don't know about because it was never made. it was called "countermeasures." and the military objected to this film because it was an algorry for the iran contra affair. they wanted to show corruption on u.s. aircraft carrier. the smuggling of u.s. weapons to iran. and the military looked at the script and i'm quoting directly, they didn't want -- not want to denigrate the white house or remind the public of the iran contra affair. and so, they rejected this film. and this film was ultimately
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never made, even though it had the support of touchstone pictures and also it had several big name actors on board, includingsy gournny weaver. >> wow. >> i assume pentagon is all in with me, but listening to what you said, professor f i want to do a movie about what went on in black sites and show water boarding, i suspect i'm not getting a lot of cooperation? >> well, it's strange because in the past the c.i. ca. and pentan objected to films that depicted torture but zero dark 30 gave ground and the conversation was already happening about torture. and the c.i.a. decided to support this film even though it depicted torture. and you know, it turned out to be a film that essentially
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justified and legitimize torture as a technique that helped us find so sam ma bin laden. so there are show stoppers that the pentagon will object to that will stop a production from being assisted. but, you know, the field of play is constantly changing, too. >> quick final question. for the military, is it all about recruitment? is that their angle? >> that's a big consideration. but it's not all about recruitment. it's about showing the military in the best positive light. so you have something like "top gun:maverick" about getting people into a situation where they'll sign on the bottom line. but it's also about portraying u.s. foreign policy. you've noticed probably that the algorry, the story of top gun attracts pretty well with iran and exactly how we're going to deal militarily through foreign policy with their nuclear program. >> fascinating subject.
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thank you so much for being here to enlighten us. >> thank you for having me on the show. let's see what you're saying via smerconish twitter, facebook and youtube. what do we have from twitter, it's a great recruiting tool for the military. who knows, maybe it might help steer and guide someone needing direction. yeah. i'm not necessarily negative toward this whole subject. i'm more just keenly interested in it. i never stopped to think that there's an office on wiltshire boulevard in los angeles, in hollywood, and you have to make a stop there if you want to make a movie that's going to rely on military assets and in response for that level of cooperation, they're going to want to know what's this movie all about. at what point does it become a propaganda tool if i go in and i'm oliver stone and i want to do, you know, a stone-like movie? that's the issue. here is another issue, the survey right now at, i'm asking this week, is vladimir putin correct in believing the west will lose its resolve with the war in ukraine?
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kingdom. >> khashoggi was, in fact, murdered and dismembered. i believe in the order of the crown prince. and i would make it very clear we are not going to, in fact, sell more weapons to them. we were going to, in fact, make them pay the price and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are. >> although biden said friday friday he had no direct plans to visit saudi arabia, the president is expected to meet the saudi crown prince mohammed bin salman next month. the reason the president has a massive domestic political liability in high gas prices that saudi arabia is in a position to assist. but there are moral costs to koz siing up to mbs and the saudi kingdom. consider the murder of jamal khashoggi in 2018. the crown prince denied any role. and the country's plethora of
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human rights abuses, torture, discrimination against women, detention of government critics and political activists. and then, of course, there's the role that 15 saudi nationals played as hijackers in the september 11 attacks. my next guest whose husband died in the north tower of the world trade center on 9/11 sent a letter to the president this week. the letter, which was obtained by politico reads in part, mr. president, if you were to omit september 11 from your discussions with the saudi leaders, it could signal to the world you're willing to indulge years more of saudi obstruction and that america prioritizes the interests of foreign powers and economics more than the lives of its citizenry. joining me now is the national chair of 9/11 families united, terry strata. thank you for being here. what you didn't say in the letter is, mr. president, stay home. how come? >> exactly. i understand the need to go over
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there and to discuss our need for oil, although i may not agree with it. but he needs to now bring up the hard subject of 9/11 and deal with this prince on a very stern level that they take responsibility for the role that they played in sending their agents here to set up the support network in our country that met and greeted the hijackers and did everything they needed to give them the support they needed to eeded tt the attacks. he needs to rip this band aid off and deal with the truth. >> right. in other words, your premise is that it's not just that 15 of the 19 happened to be saudis, based on information that you gleaned from among other things the so-called 28 pages, you think there's a direct connection there and mbs needs to be held accountable for it? >> i know there's a direct connection there. i have seen the evidence. so, the president did an
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executive order last september that demanded that the doj do a declassification review of all the cia and fbi documents that have been hidden from the american public for two decades. what we are finding in these documents is there was this hideous anti-american program going on inside the united states within the ministry of islamic affairs in the saudi embassy in washington, d.c. and that prince bin dar the ambassador was directly paying some of these handlers helping the hijackers. they are not only financially responsible for al qaeda and the attacks, they gave the logistical support and they gave the ideology, the evil ideology that spawned the hatred that these jihadists have for americans and they will not stop unless we deal with the truth and denounce terrorism in that country and do what they need to do here in america, take responsibility. >> terry, let's also give the
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president his just due. i know it's your view from our prior conversations it's your view that this president, president biden, has done more on this issue, this cause of yours, than any of his predecessors. explain. >> yes, that's true. like i just mentioned, the executive order that -- so first of all, i would say senator menendez and his staff deserve as awful lot of credit for this. they wrote a transparency act 2021 transparency act and the president turned that into an executive order demanded the doj go back and look at all of these documents they have refused to give us over the years the families for our case against the kingdom. the president, yes, in doing that executive order released documents. we have never seen before. and are helping the 9/11 families get to the truth. but now we need him to take the next step. because now our government knows without a doubt how involved the kingdom was in the attacks of 9/11. so now they need to help us deal
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with the kingdom and the truth. >> okay. final question, so, what does this look like? have you sort of game theoried it out? you're saying, mr. president, you got to go in july because of gas prices. i get it. but when you're over there and when you're in the palace and when you're meeting with mbs, you're going to say to him, what? >> you're -- well, mbs is always wants to talk about this 9/11 lawsuit because he wants it to go away. and prior to this executive order and all of this information, you know, he was denying it. but now the truth is there. you can't deny it any longer. the facts are your country is responsible, 100% without a doubt, the murder of thousands of americans on american soil including my husband. so, we need this president to say to him no more lying. no more denying it. you have to get tough on terrorism financing and your country is the number one financer of terrorism and it
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needs to end. >> this time i mean it when i say it's my final question. what do you say to the golfers tempted by the money to go play in this new process that the saudis are establishing as a competitor to the pga? >> well, i would em employer them to say no. do not do it. do not engage with the kingdom as long as they are still denying the role that they played in 9/11. i would say to them, do not take their money. you know, stand strong. it's a wonderful sport that has a lot of class. if you get in bed with the saudis, you're getting in bed with the dirt. you're going -- it's not a good thing. i wouldn't do it. >> terry strada, thank you for coming back to the program. >> thank you for having me, michael. more social media reaction now from the world of twitter, i believe. what do we have? midterm on the horizon, really? that's how major decisions should be made, disgusting. fran peters, i think you're making a reference to a prior
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interesting. time to see how you responded to the survey question at is vladimir putin correct in believing the west will lose its resolve with regard to the war in ukraine? here are the survey results. let's call it nearly 20,000, wow, 74%, three-quarters say no, he's not correct, he's incorrect, out of more than 19,000 who voted. i'm not sure myself. i'm concerned where we are, with midterms on the horizon, inflation at a 40-year high, concerns about crime, concerns about the border and title 42 and so forth. and taking into consideration the fact that 11 republican senators did not vote for the recent 40 bill. in terms of him thinking he can just wait us out, i think it's reason for concern, i really do. but that's what you thought. okay. social media reaction. what do we have? the west is easily distracted
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