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you are live in the cnn "newsroom," i'm jim acosta in washington. puzzling that is how the january 6th committee is describing the justice department's decision to not charge two allies in the investigation into the insurrection. mark meadows and dan scavino would be spared from prosecution, the move was reported hours after another trump adviser peter navarro was indicted by a grand jury for refusing to cooperate. >> these are uninforcible, unlawful subpoenas and that committee should never have been formed. no american citizen should have to go through what i went through today. who is trying to do the right thing. i'm trying to do my duty to this country.
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i'm in an untenable position. the constitution is on my side on this. >> we'll see about that. next week the january 6th committee begins a month of hearings with the promise of revealing new witnesses and unseen documents. we're getting a new report from "the new york times" that chief of staff to vice president warned the secret service one day before the insurrection that trump could publically turn on pence and create a security risk for the vice president. the secret service disputes the account and said concerns about violence directed at pence by the president's actions were never communicated. still, the next day after pence moved to certify the 2020 votes and trump attacked him on twitter came this infamous moment. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> cnn's ryan nobles has more on the moves by the justice department and what's ahead in the investigation. ryan?
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>> reporter: jim this news has to come as a disappointment to the january 6th select committee. they hoped the referrals of mark meadows and dan scavino would be prosecuted by the doj as a signal to other targets that these subpoenas are serious and you need to comply and cooperate in a form and fashion that the committee deems appropriate. the department of justice obviously didn't feel like that, unlike the other two indictments one came from peter navarro, that came on friday. the other from steve bannon, a white house adviser close to donald trump. the department of justice believed there was some level of cooperation with meadows and scavino that didn't occur with navarro and bannon. and both mikkos aneadows and sc served at the highest form of
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government. what does this mean for the investigation? we are likely already to the stage where we're not going to get the information they were looking for from meadows and scavino, at least not in a timely fashion that would help with the investigation they hoped to have wrapped up by the fall. the same for navarro who will now be facing a criminal prosecution could end up with jail time and a hefty fine. if the prosecution is able to win this case. so what it's going to be about now is that the committee piecing together the information that they know about these particular individuals from other sources and it's something the committee has worked hard on and said they have been successful in that endeavor. there is a long-term situation having to do with the fact that the doj removed to move on the subpoenas because we still have five members of congress who have subpoenaed by the committee they have not handed down a criminal contempt referral but
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that could complicate the efforts as they move forward. the committee has a busy week ahead of them. on thursday they hold their first public hearing since the investigation launched back in the fall. this is where they plan to layout, in specificity, what they have uncovered in the course of the 10-month investigation. it will kick off a series of hearings throughout the month of june and could be a very important part in the public effort this committee has in trying to convince the public that there was a serious problem leading up to and on january 6th and something that needs to be fixed. and then, of course, who is responsible for what happened here on january 6th. so a lot of work for the committee as the time goes on, jim. it all really kicks off in ernest on thursday. >> and joining me now is ellie honing, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york.
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the department of justice declined to charge mark meadows and scavino. how do you describe that? >> you can look at the indictments of peter navarro and steve bannon before them and say if you defy a subpoena you will face criminal charges on the other hand it's hard to understand how mark meadows and dan scavino could blow off subpoenas with no consequences. how do you square that? it comes down to two factors. first off, executive privilege. mark meadows has the best claim, i don't think it's the best. steve bannon has the worst, he wasn't in the executive branch at all. scavino and naregulatvarro it'so differentiate. navarro was out there talking about the communications publicly so that could be a waiver.
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meadows partially cooperated, until he didn't. and scavino, his lawyers reportedly went through some motions to negotiating with the committee. whereas navarro and steve bannon completely defied the committee. but if doj is giving people credit for pretending to cooperate or partially cooperating like mark meadows, i disagree with that and think it sets a terrible precedence. >> right after the indictment, there were people on the president's side irate about this. louie, went on tv and made this complaint. let's watch. >> it actually puts an exclamation point on the fact that we have a two-tier justice system. if you're a republican, you can't even lie to congress or lie to an fbi agent or they're coming after you. >> yeah, i mean, we shouldn't
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have to remind our viewers, but let's go ahead. it's illegal for anyone, republican or democrat, to lie to the congress, to lie to the fbi. i guess this is washington so i suppose some are just used to that tradition here. but, you know, peter navarro told the judge that he wanted to represent himself. there's that old expression about having a fool for a client, i suppose that's where we are right now. >> yeah. it's a horrible idea for all the reasons you might imagine. starting with the fact that peter navarro doesn't have any idea what he's doing in court. i'm a lawyer, maybe i'm biassed, you have to go to law school to have some idea what you're doing. when he started filing motions last week, the judge rejected them because they were nonsense, jibberish. so peter navarro plans to turn this into a circus. but he will face a criminal jury and if they find him guilty he
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will go to prison for at least one month if he's convicted here. so there are real consequences. >> let's look at the exclusive for our jamie, a look at these text messages turned over by mark meadows to the january 6th committee. the takeaway more than 20 prominent republicans and allies of the president at the time pleaded for him to call things o off. here are some of those, mick mulvaney, mark he needs to stop this. congressman will timmons, the president needs to stop this. even donald trump jr., he needs to stop this. and reince priebus, tell them to go home. how significant are these messages? it's perplexing that meadows fought cooperation all this time and yet we have this treasure trove of text messages. >> these are reminders that mark
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meadows was the contiduit to donald trump. but mark meadows has baliled ou of these meetings and no consequences. everyone understood the rioters were acting for donald trump and donald trump was the only person capable of calling them off. that makes donald trump's inaction, his silence during those key 187 minutes that makes his silence more important, more inexp inexplicable. we've heard reporting saying that donald trump was gleeful what he saw. senator ben sasse, a republican, said he heard from senior white house officials that donald trump was thrilled with what he saw. we'll dig into this, i think, at these hearings next week. >> and it goes to the lies we were told after january 6th by trump allies, trump associates that it was antifa, it was an fbi plot and so on. yet everybody in the know knew
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exactly who to go to call it off. thank you very much, we appreciate it. new details about what the secret service was told ahead of the january 6th insurrection and its mob chants of hang mike pence. according to "the new york times," the secret service was warned on january 5th donald trump was going to turn against the vice president publically and there could be a security risk to pence because of it. >> the president was going to turn on pence and that, you know, they might have a security risk. short, as i understand it, did not have a sense of what that threat could look like. i don't believe, based on my reporting that he envisioned, you know, what we saw on january 6th the way we saw it. what he did realize is that the former president had supporters very reactive to him, who basically responded to things he would say and he could see one person, two people, three people, several people doing something that could be
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problematic safety wise for the vice president, just based on this pressure that the former president was exerting. >> and again, the secret service disputes this account insisting concerns about violence directed to mike pence were never communicated. steve, could we just digest for a second -- great to have you on the show, we appreciate it -- what it would mean for the vice president's chief of staff to tell the secret service the president of the united states is putting his own vice president in danger. we also know from some of the testimony that has come into the january 6th committee, that mark meadows, who we were talking about earlier, was warned in advance that there could be violence on january 6th. what do you think of all this? >> it's an extraordinary weigh point in an extraordinary series of events that will be laid out
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in prime time television by the january 6th select committee. where they inform the american people about what i believe will be a pretty significant conspiracy to interrupt a peaceful transition of power that had gone on uninterrupted in the united states since 1797. i think it's one of the most significant criminal events in american history. the president of the united states who initiated it, who instigated it, who's responsible for the violence, the mayhem, still a significant political figure and still continues to taunt the american people every day. and at the end of the day is the significant candidate for the republican nomination in 2024. and so we're at a midpoint between elections coming up on the midterm election where there's going to be some really
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serious information for the american people to get their heads around as they get to make a series of decisions over the next two or three years about the direction of the country. that's what's going to be laid out. >> no question about it, it's a significant moment. washington has seen its share of high stakes summer hearings and i think this is exactly the same sort of thing that's going to be playing out on thursday, later this -- this coming week. molly, we just learned that the justice department is not going to charge former white house chief of staff mark meadows or trump aide dan scavino with contempt of congress. even though peter navarro was indicted. we found out about this late last night when bad news is buried before the weekend. does this mean that meadows is out of the woods? what was your reaction to this when we saw this on our phones last night?
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>> friday night news dump as always. i think, you know, it's still a little bit early to tell. the january 6th committee has this opportunity to really show the narrative, right, and we're going to get to see exactly what happened. we're going to hear probably some messages it sounds like. we're going to see a lot of evidence. and i think that, you know, it's -- people don't care about things until they do, right. things don't matter until they do. and i think that this is happening in prime time and people are seeing it. and liz cheney is extremely, you know, good in front of the cameras. as are the rest of the committee. so i think there's a real opportunity here to sort of get people to understand just what happened. this is always going to be about permeating that right wing media bubble and getting those people to see this hearing. and if that happens, i think that's going to be really important. >> steve, what about that?
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that is one of my big questions headed into the hearings, how is fox going to cover it? how is it going to play in conservative media? what are trump folks going to do to distract everybody it? there's reporting that the trump people are going to distract from the hearings. it reminds me of if a tree falls in the forest, does anybody hear it, does it make a sound? in maga world if they're distracted by the shiny objects, is it going to sink in, have the same effects the watergate hearings had 50 years ago and so on? >> i think the communications that exist in the world today are different than 50 years ago. the reality is that there's a sophisticated, complex, inner connected, global misinformation
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network, hubbed by fox news in this country, that misinforms people at an industrial level. now 25% of the country is completely supportive of the maga movement, of trump. i suppose of the insurrection. >> the reality is though the overwhelming majority of the country is opposed to it. and i think the country will tune in here to the facts. the simple fact is this. is that we live in a constitutional republic, it is the oldest in the world. that republic requires citizens who have a sense of both obligation and responsibility. a republic doesn't function without informed citizens. and so, the choices ahead, the facts that will be laid out, are important or significant, and the country will be exposed to them. and at the end of the day, the facts are the facts.
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they will be overwhelming, the evidence will be laid out, my view is that the american people -- we're not passive about the future of the country. you can look at the 1930s, took a long time for people in the united states to awaken to the threat. you can look at the 1850s. you can look at other comparable periods of time before the progress i've si-- progressiv era, the beginning of the 20th century. when people awaken to a threat, they awaken. people who first awaken look at dismay at others. the story is clear, when the american people are confronted overwhelmingly with facts they react to it, particularly when it speaks to the threat that faces a country that contains their children and their futures.
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>> molly, i don't want to let you guys go without talking about what happened up on capitol hill this week. the gun debate flared up once again, there was a house judiciary committee hearing on guns. there was a very surreal moment when a florida congressman used the time to show off his handgun collection. >> i have a cig sauer, this gun would be banned. here's a 12-round magazine, this magazine would be banned under this bill. here's a gun i carry every day to protect myself, my family, my wife, my home. this gun would be banned. >> to infer by rhetorical supposed questions who are you here for, we must be here for the gunman is an outrage. how dare you?
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you think we don't have hearts. >> you know you didn't have their constitutional rights to life respected, the kids at parkland, sandy hook, uvalde, and buffalo. so spare me the [bleep] about constitutional rights. >> the president wants assault weapons banned and if he can't do that he wants to raise the age limit for purchasing assault weapons to 21 years old. the gun makers, he wants them to no longer be immune from liability. do you think there's any political will to make any of that happen right now? to steve's point a little bit, i understand what he's saying about the january 6th hearings and when people wake up they wake up. i'm looking at some of that video and lawmakers holding up handguns and so on. has the extremism on the right gotten so out of control, people aren't going to listen to reason anymore, they're not going to listen to facts. they're waving guns around now
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at congressional hearings, what's going on? >> that's a good case for the states doing the banning guns in a way or raising the purchase age or banning assault rifles. that's an interesting situation. you could do, you have it in california and new york state. you're seeing these blue states do what the red states did to abortion. right. texas has had abortion pretty much outlawed since last september. and what you're going to see more and more is blue states doing that. you have hochul wants to rage the purchase age to 21. you have california doing all sorts of stuff. they have really much more restrictions on guns at the state level which has really worked. so i see, you know, republicans love states rights let's see what they think about blue states having rights. i also think republican politicians are really out of step. the polling says that these kind
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of raising the minimum age and outlawing these assault weapons is actually pretty popular. more popular than a lot of things. so you just have a party that's gotten so maga they can't do anything that isn't like super maga. but i do think there is a will. and people want it. it's just that republicans are so -- have become so extreme that they won't necessarily do it. >> molly, steve, great to have you both on. great discussion. appreciate the time. thanks so much. see you again soon. >> thank you. coming up, a child's chilling 911 call during the texas school massacre revealing, quote, a lot of bodies in the classroom but did the commander at the scene ever hear her plea for help? th merrill. moving his money into his investment account in real time and that's... how you collect coins. your money never stops working for you with merrill,, a bank of america company.
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uvalde school shooting after a teacher and classmates were shot. the transcript shows the awful call that lasted for some 17 minutes. what did the girl say? >> reporter: this heart wrenching transcript was obtained by "the new york times" we see how frightening it must have been for the kids at the school. chloe, just 10 years old when the gunman came into her class and began shooting. this is part of what she said in her call to 911. there's a lot of bodies i don't want to die. my teacher is dead. my teacher is dead. please send help for my teacher. she's shot but still alive. torres said she had to play dead so the gunman would spare her life. classmates on either side of her were shot and killed.
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listen to what she had to say about her experience. >> my friend amy she started trying to call the police with her friend's phone. and when they did that, he started saying, you'll die. he shot my friend and my teachers. he shot the girl next to me. and she said, i've been shot. and i didn't want to say anything because i didn't want him to come over and shoot me. so i sat quiet. and he came back and shot her again because she wouldn't be quiet. >> torres had just moved with her family from louisiana to uvalde during spring break and she said one of her big friends as she referred to her as, amerie jo garza, unfortunately did not make it. it is garza hailed as a hero because she is one of the children who called 911. we are learning more about the details of what happened that day when it comes to pete arredondo, the school district police chief.
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according to "the new york times" he didn't have his radio on him, even though he is the incident commander, while it's not uncommon for some police officers to use cell phones to communicate with colleagues in incidents like. here where they've failed to get major questions answered it underscores the incompetence of police. incompetence that clearly cost lives. >> nick valencia, thank you for that report. coming up, your eyes do not deceive you, gas selling for nearly $10 a gallon in one part of the country. not everywhere but one part of the country. a major event goes on without the star attraction. it's made themem fiercely determined and more innovative. just bececause they can navigate the obstacles doesn't mean they should have to. citi is committed to investing in opportunities
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it's a party in the uk right now thousands are gathered outside of buckingham palace for a concert celebrating queen elizabeth's 70 years on the british throne. diana ross and adam lambert are among the headliners and prince charles and prince williams will give speeches in tribute to her. but she's been absent from events. the queen experienced discomfort on thursday, the first day of her platinum jubilee celebration. she did not attend friday's service or today's derby, which is meant to honor her life-long love of horses. richard quest, host of "quest means business" is here. he's as close as we get to the royals. but we're honored to have him with us.
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is the queen's presence from the events stoking concerns about her health? she is the picture of longevity. just a remarkable life. >> reporter: yes, and i think tonight, jim, what you saw at the start of the party at the palace is exactly that. the queen with paddington bear, she outdid her james bond 007 of the london olympics. i think this time, there are concerns she's 96, there are always going to be concerns. but many people, like tonight for example, instead of being in town, many people are at home reflecting, watching the concert. i'm here with the family in north london, we're enjoying just watching the concert. because jim, the queen has been part of our lives since the moment we were born, i'm 60. so she'd already been on the throne for a good ten years before i was even born. >> wow.
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that is true. and for so many of us around the world, this has been our life, watching queen elizabeth on the throne. on the night of queen elizabeth's coronation, british prime minister winston churchill described her as a lady who we respect because she's our queen and respect because she's herself. 70 years later, what do you think of that, what do you think of what sir winston had to say? >> reporter: i think americans find it quite difficult -- why and how we go along with the royal family and the monarchy. it's like foreigners trying to understand the american dream. you can look at the royal family as a soap opera, a drama with the family trials and tribulations but for somebody like myself and my family, not everybody of course, there is a view that the queen has been part of our lives.
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she's part of the fabric of the constitution of this country and having done it for 70 years that i think is what is exceptional and extraordinary. and that is why this country has gone overbored to celebrate. we'll never see the like of it again. i know you have a bit of a sweet tooth, jim. >> absolutely. >> reporter: so we made this. >> wow. >> i'm sure you'll demolish a piece or two. >> pairs well with the rose as well. >> reporter: yeah. absolutely. tomorrow, so you have the party at the palace tonight but tomorrow, please god the rain doesn't come. tomorrow you have street parties all over the country. thousands of street parties, because this is when the ordinary man, woman, and child, the people of britain get to
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celebrate their mon arc, our monarch, my monarch on the throne for 70 years. we'll never see the like of it again. >> i have to ask you, richard, harry and meghan showed up to support the queen despite the rift with prince charles and prince william. what do you make of that? are we making too much of that? what do you think? >> reporter: look at the end of the day, harry is the grandson, so, of course, he's going to be there. the rift, yes, you didn't see william and harry talk to each other during the service at st. paul's. we know that lillibet, who's now 1, has met her majesty the queen we know there was a meeting between charles and harry. but the reality is, you cannot escape the fact that harry and meghan abandoned the royals, headed up to vancouver then down to los angeles, california and in doing so, put the boot in to
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with many families still struggling to find baby formula, the michigan plant at the center of a nationwide recall and formula shortage finally resumed operations today. the plant was shut down in february over contamination months after the fda first became aware of the issue. four babies who were fed formula became sick, and two of them died, but it's not certain the bacteria that made them sick came from the plant. cnn's polo sandoval is in stu sturgis, michigan. this is something parents across the country are talking about. how soon will parents see new cans of baby formula on the shelves finally? >> reporter: it's going to be a while, jim, because as you recall you kept hearing time and
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time again that the temporary closure of this abbott plant was cited as one of those key factors that led to this nationwide shortage that has led to parents really for months now strugtology make sure that they have what they need to make sure that their babies are fed. but now today is a significant step in what many parents hope will be a step in the right direction. they have restarted again the production of several of their baby formulas. not all of them at this point. right now according to company officials, it will be focusing on elecare, had is basically this amino acid based hypoallergenic product which they hope will go a long way for parents with children with special dietary needs. they'll be expanding their manufacturing process to include similac. here's the thing, at this point according to the company, they do not expect this sort of first round of product that's being manufactured again starting today to hit store shelves at
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least until june 20th. this will be not be an overnight positive impact on grocery store shelves. it goes with what we've been hearing from the company and the biden administration that this is what they hoped to see. abbott nutrition, they have maintained that during their review they did not find any evidence of contamination in their product, but nonetheless found there was room for improvement, including improving some of their protocols and that's exactly what we're hearing from abbott nutrition officials hoping to add to supplement to that supply that the biden administration's already flying in from overseas. jim. >> all right, polo sandoval, thanks for that update. we appreciate it, breast milk bank have been a real lifesaver for some parents during this crisis. this week's cnn heroes salutes lucy fink, a breast-feeding mom donating her excess milk for babies in need after sharing her journey with her online audience. >> my son is now 12 weeks old, and he eats four times a day.
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we can't wait one more day when people are dying on our streets. you're alive in the "cnn newsroom," i'm jim acosta, in washington the committee investigating january 6th is ready for prime time as they prepare to go public with new information next week. one of their criminal contempt referrals has resulted in a high profile arrest. a federal dgrand jury on friday indicted peter navarro for contempt of congress after he refused to cooperate with the january 6th committee. he joins the justice department's insurrection indictment list. alongside former trump adviser steve bannon. that list will not include mark meadows and dan scavino. the justice department decline


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