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hello, i'm victor blackwell, welcome to "cnn newsroom". >> and i'm alisyn camerota. >> an 11-year-old survivor of the uvalde massacre testified today on capitol hill about the living hell that she endured for 77 minutes in her classroom. miah described what happened when a gunman murdered 19 of her classmates and two teachers while she was just feet away. she gave new details about how she survived after seeing the killer shoot her teacher in the head. >> he shot my friend that was next to me, and i thought he was going to come back to the room, so i grabbed the blood and i put it all over me. >> do you feel safe at school? why not? because i don't want it to happen again.
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>> do you think it's going to happen again? >> miah was one of several witnesses who gave heartbreaking and really disturbing testimony at the hearing about america's epidemic of gun violence. mass shootings are on pace to hit record levels this year. the parents of lexi rubio, who was killed at robb elementary we want as they implored lawmakers to change the country's gun laws. >> we don't want you to think of lexi as just a number. she was intelligent, compassionate, athletic. she was quiet, shy unless she had a point to make. if she knew she was right, as she so often was, she was firm, direct, voice unwavering. so today we stand for lexi and as her voice we demand action. we seek a ban on assault rifles and high capacity magazines.
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we understand that for some reason to some people, to people with money, to people who fund political campaigns that guns are more important than children. somewhere out there there's a mom listening to our testimony thinking i can't even imagine their pain, not knowing that our reality will one day be hers unless we act now. >> cnn correspondent omar jimenez is in uvalde, texas. the committee, the american people today heard these stories of who the children would have been, who they would be if they were still alive now, and lives of those left behind who are changed forever. >> reporter: that's right, victor and alisyn, these are heartbreaking realities of what happened here in uvalde, not just in the day when this happened a little bit more than
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two weeks ago, but in what has persisted day in and day out trying to get back to normal lives for these young survivors. we spoke to the grandfather of one young survivor, and he told us she still hears the sound of bullets. she gets scared by even the slightest sounds, and then even today on capitol hill, we heard from miah who described a little bit of what she saw as just a young fourth grader having to smear the blood of her friend as she played dead as this unfolded. we also heard from her father who described what it is like for her in regards to his relationship. >> today i come because i lost my baby girl. she is not the same little girl that i used to play with, hang around with. >> i wish something would change, not only for our kids but every single kid in the world because schools are not safe anymore. >> reporter: and that's the major question here.
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what will change? everybody who spoke on capitol hill and everyone who's spoken out here in this community are hoping that their words, their stories can have at least some sort of an impact on long-term change so that this, these memorials all across this particular town don't pop up anywhere else. >> omar, it's unbearable. i mean, honestly it's unbearable to hear the details. of course we have to hear their stories and they're living it, but every detail just so searing. and then this afternoon the justice department talked about its review of the police response of that uvalde shooting. we know it took officers 77 minutes to enter the classroom and kill the shooter, so what's the attorney general saying? >> yeah, well, attorney general merrick garland made this announcement earlier this afternoon and stressed this was not a criminal investigation, instead an after action review of what happened here, and this is something that was requested by the mayor here in uvalde to look at the investigation into what happened at robb elementary.
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as he admitted, there were missteps in regards to the initial release of information, which we now know at this point. the justice department, though, was quick to say what this investigation would be and what it wouldn't be saying that there is no way that they can go back and erase the pain that this shooting has caused this community and subsequent aftermath has caused this community. but what they can do is look at where things went wrong and offer recommendations so that this type of incident as far as the response goes, doesn't happen in the future so that they can offer those recommendations. bottom line, it is going to take some time as uvalde county district attorney here says it is going to be a while before they get any report from her. >> okay. omar jimenez, thank you very much for the reporting. so a larger bipartisan group of senators met today to try to come up with gun safety measures. the senators say they're making progress towards a framework for a bill. >> cnn's lauren fox is with us now. what are the discussions saying
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today? >> reporter: well, lawmakers emerging from that meeting just a little over an hour ago, and senator john cornyn, the lead republican in those talks said that they are making progress, but he said the enemy is arbitrary time lines. he did not give a deadline for when this group may be finished with their work. he also said there are sticking points everywhere warning that while they are making progress, there's a lot of details they still have to work through. we also are getting a sense of what is on the table and what is off the table at this point in these negotiations. we know off the table ideas like universal background checks and despite the fact that minority leader mitch mcconnell privately has said he's open to the idea of raising the age from 18 to 21, that someone could purchase an ar-15, that is not something that has widespread republican support, the ten votes really needed to pass this gun legislation through the u.s.
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senate. on the table incentivizing states to pass red flag laws as well as opening up juvenile records as part of the broader background check process for people between 18 and 21 trying to buy guns like an ar-15. you also have school safety as well as about $7 billion for mental health. all of this coalescing with a huge question mark. do they get a deal by the end of the week? if you remember, majority leader chuck schumer said he wanted to ensure they had something because the delays just -- he was not going to stand for. your seeing some opening, some softening from republicans, cynthia lummus telling my colleague ted barrett yesterday that she had one opinion right after uvalde, but she has been hearing from constituents in the conservative red state of wyoming. she said she does want to look very closely now at this package, even though they are more narrow protections of what senators are discussing. victor and alisyn. >> lauren fox on capitol hill,
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thank you very much. let's get into all of this with cnn political commentator s.e. cupp and cnn political correspondent abby phillip. i want to start with miah because congress has heard from survivors of mass shootings before, but it's been two weeks since uvalde. she's 11 years old. where does he voice fit into these discussions today? >> first of all, i think that it really confronts them and the whole country with really what is our national shame, that an 11-year-old has to be in a position two weeks after she was in the room with a gunman and watched her teacher and friends be murdered to testify before congress on this issue. i think that that in and of itself is a shocking fact for this country. some people might have been tempted to say, oh, they're exploiting this young girl, but she wanted to tell this story, and you also heard from her father who we want as he talked about losing her. look, i think that lawmakers on
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both sides of the aisle, particularly republicans, recognize that they have to do something. that's the sentiment that you're getting in washington these days is that everybody knows that sitting around on their hands doing nothing is no longer an option because these particular victims who for the last -- for their entire lives these kinds of school shootings have been a reality for them, they are demanding that something change, and i think that that has made -- raised the stakes for washington as they go through these negotiations. >> what's wrong, s.e.? >> i wish that were true. you know i'm a law-abiding gun owner. i used to be a member of the nra. i quit the nra because it no longer represents law-abiding gun owners, the majority of who want background checks and stuff like that passed. i know the contours of this debate from the republican and nra side all too well, and the intransigence on that side, the
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slippery slope argument, not willing to give a single inch. that is textbook it is not changing, and it trickles over to republicans who wait it out. john cornyn saying the time line's arbitrary is exactly what he is doing. he's setting the stage to wait it out. i won't be surprised if they walk away with nothing. >> yeah, on that note, i want to point out something. mitch mcconnell is very curious about when he can move with great speed and urgency. here he is today -- let me play for you what he said today that he felt requires urgent action today. here he is. >> house democrats must pass this bill and they need to do it today, no more fiddling around with this. they need to pass it today. >> he's not talking about gun safety. he's talking about -- on some level he is because he's talking about protecting justice brett
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kavanaugh in his home, but there he wants urgent action whereas our reporting is only behind the scenes is senator mcconnell willing to say that he's willing to raise the age for gun purchases to 21, only privately will he say that, not publicly. what's going on with that? >> there's been no consequence for doing nothing for a lot of republican lawmakers, zero consequences. in fact, they're rewarded. and it's just -- it's frustrating, i think, for a lot of us who are on the side of second amendment, but i'm a mom first, and the frustration is when i hear my friends on the right and people like mitch mcconnell say in the interest of keeping a free society, this is just the way it has to be. i would ask them when our kids are not safe at school, shopping malls, churches, temples, sporting events, movie theaters, hospitals, name it, are we in a free society? does this feel free to you?
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i have a school aged kid. i don't feel feel free. i don't feel safe. i mean in the interest of a free society, i don't know what liberties you're protecting anymore. it feels like we are unsafe everywhere. >> and abby, it sounds like from democrats in the house who will eventually have to pass whatever comes out of the senate, if something accommcomes out, even dick durbin we heard today, the majority whip, they'll take whatever, whatever they can get, whatever small incremental change. there is a bit of deflation that we're hearing from democrats. >> well, i think it's also strategically important for them to be in that place because it really puts the onus and the spotlight on what are republicans actually willing to do to s.e.'s point. democrats are saying we will put anything on the table, everything on the table, and so then the ball is in the other side's court. what are they willing to accept? or will they show their cards? i think there's a lot of reason to believe what s.e. is saying
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that the playbook here is to wait. i think also mitch mcconnell is talking -- you know, we as reporters getting word about mitch mcconnell's private thoughts to decode that for the people at home, this is exactly what he did when it came to the impeachment of former president trump. privately, he said that he supported impeachment, but publicly he was willing to do absolutely nothing, and it's because he knows that there's not support in his conference to do much and certainly not to raise the age from 18 to 21, and so it's a little bit of a kind of public relations cover that he's kind of seeking on this issue, and it's not going to be followed with any sort of action. but i think by democrats basically saying it's up to you to tell us what you're willing to accept, that really puts the spotlight where it ought to be. there's only -- i mean, the reality is in this debate, there's one side of the debate
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that wants to talk about everything but one issue. everything but one issue. as a factual matter, that is where we are in washington, but that is not where the american public is, and that's certainly not where gun owners are. >> that's right. i keep pounding that drum, law-abiding gun owners want some common sense changes on gun laws. adam kinzinger, congressman from illinois and a gun owner himself has offered a raft of changes that are significant changes. what i hope is the democratic posture that abby's explaining is true for now. they'll take what they can get. what i hope they don't do is get something little and gum it up with bigger asks. take the incremental wins. they're much bigger than you think they might be. >> that will be the rest test, especially when it goes back to the house. will they, in fact, take the incremental wins? nothing that is going to be done is going to be anything big or grand, but the small.
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justice. >> there's been increased security around the justice's home since that leak of a draft opinion showing the court is poised to overturn roe v. wade. cnn law enforcement correspondent whitney wild is with us now. just before he was arrested, this suspect called authorities. what did he tell them? >> well, what he told them was he was having suicidal thoughts and that he had a firearm in his sui suitcase. he did have a firearm in his suitcase according to this indictment along with a series of others extremely alarming items. let me back up and tell you how this all started, 1:00 a.m., two u.s. deputy marshals saw this man exit a taxi. he was dressed in all black. he had a suitcase. he had a backpack. once he saw those deputy marshals, he turned on his heel and walked down the street. that's when he called 911 and said he was having suicidal thoughts. once police took him into custody, they found in his backpack and in his suitcase black tactical chest rig, a glock 17, pepper spray, zip ties, a hammer, screwdrivers, a
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long list of other items including hiking boots, and while they were doing this investigation, they read him his miranda rights and it was through this interview they did with him in which he said his intention was to kill the supreme court justice inside that home and then kill himself. he was angered over the leaked abortion ruling. he was also concerned that the justice would side with the second amendment, that he would loosen gun laws. we have two high profile supreme court opinions coming out, abortion and guns. he was angry about the possible ramifications of both. this is something that department of homeland security officials have been warning about as well as the fbi for weeks. further, he told investigators that he wanted to give his life a purpose and he thought that by doing this act, by killing the supreme court justice who was not named in the indictment, by the way, by killing the supreme court justice, he would be able to do that.
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again, telling investigators he intended to kill him, the supreme court justice and then himself. he also said that he purchased the glock 17 as well as other items for this explicit purpose. this is a frightening case. it is eerily similar to a case we just covered on saturday where a man killed a former judge in wisconsin and then killed himself. again, the real chance of domestic violent extremism geared toward the supreme court justices and their staff and others associated with the court is very real. this is the example of the type of crime that the federal officials had been warning about since this leaked draft opinion that shows the supreme court is very likely to overturn roe v. wade happened. back to you. >> stunning details there, this man, again, just charged with attempted murder. whitney wild for us outside the court. thank you. on the eve of its prime time hearings, a federal judge is granting the house january 6th committee access to trove of emails from former trump attorney john eastman, and they
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largely are related to his efforts to help the former president attempt to overturn the 2020 election. >> we're also learning about two potential new witnesses, former acting attorney general jeffrey rosen and his then deputy richard donahue. they have been invited to testify publicly about their final days inside the trump administration. cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill. tomorrow is obviously a big day for the committee. what do we know about how these emails will play in? >> i think it's very unlikely at this point, victor and alisyn that these emails will play a starring role in tomorrow night's hearing. this is information the committee may not get until later this afternoon, and they have to process that information and then see how it relates to the rest of their investigation, but there's a real possibility because of the content of these emails that it's something that could pop up in one of the several other hearings that are planned for the month of june. this is the former -- he's still a conservative attorney named john eastman who was one of the central architects of the many different legal theories about standing in the way of the certification of the election
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results, and these particular emails show, according to the judge in the case, perhaps an effort to try and circumvent even the legal process to stand in the way of that certification. that's why the judge ruled that these emails should not be protected by attorney/client priv privilege. the committee hopes to get that information. it is part of a broader investigation. may not see it tomorrow night, but you should expect it to come up in the very near future. >> okay, ryan nobles, thank you very much for the very latest. be sure to watch tomorrow night, this is at 7:00 p.m. cnn's special coverage of the january 6th hearings. okay, no we lerelief at the po pump. we have more on the worldwide problem next. that's been saving people money for nearly 60 years. for a great low rate, and nearly 60 years of quality coverage - go with the geneneral. it's still the eat fresh® refresh, and now subway® is refreshing their classics,
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the american college of surgeons calls gun violence a public health crisis. these are the doctors who are forced to deal with the damage that a weapon like an ar-15 can
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cause. brain surgeon and cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta has a new essay on where he reaccoucounts one of h most memorable moments from med school. his professor took them to a gun range to illustrate the havoc that a rifle can cause on a watermelon. >> i saw the watermelon shudder as it was struck, and then immediately saw a significant amount of red tissue fly out of the back side. upon inspection, the first thing i noticed was how much bigger the exit wound was compared to the entrance, and after opening the watermelon, the purpose of the demonstration became clear. instead of a predictable linear track, the watermelon looked like it had been cored out, and what was left was shredded. he explained that this was a phenomenon known as cavitation. the bullet doesn't just travel through the body, it creates a big cavity inside it. the uvalde pediatrician
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described something similar for members of congress today. >> what i did find is something no prayer will ever relieve. two children whose bodies had been pulverized at bullets fired at them, decapitated whose flesh had been ripped apart, that the only clue as to their identities was blood splattered cartoon clothes still clinging to them, clinging for life and finding none. >> joining us now is congressman michael burgess, a republican representing north texas. thank you so much for being here. i was really looking forward to talking to you because you were a doctor for three decades, and i'm just wondering hearing the testimony from that poor pediatrician and what he had to see, does that change your thoughts at all on how to keep weapons like that out of the hands of teenagers? >> well, it certainly speaks to keeping violence out of our schools and houses of worship. i would just point out i still am a physician. i am licensed in the state of texas, i'm not actively
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practicing because this job is too time consuming, but honestly, i had a symposium on emergency preparedness back in the district six or eight weeks ago, and one of the topics was school safety, and it's important to me because i have family members who teach in schools, teach in middle schools. obviously our hearts go out to the people who have been so devastated down in uvalde, but one of the things that my takeaways from that was the chief of the police, of the independent school district said he and his superintendent made the decision about six or eight years ago that they were not going to go to 20 funerals in their district so they had taken some people might call them extraordinary measures to protect their schools, but i would consider those common sense measures. >> such as? >> one of the reasons i wanted to talk to you today is because i think those are so important. having -- >> yeah, just tell me what they did. >> the police force on not just
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a school resource officer, but an actual force. so the chief was actually located in the independent school district facilities themselves, which gave him ample time to get to know his students. and look, we all know who the troublemakers were back in high school, right? to give a chance for interdiction. >> hold on, let me just -- hold on one second. >> let me just go through the four points really reququickly. >> i know it's controversial, but he did arm his personnel. teachers, custodians, aides, he also had the ability for any employee to lockdown the system on their say so. they didn't have to get it approved. it was just done, and then the big one, of course, is behavioral intervention guidelines and having a school psychologist on site so that they were able to deal with kids who were exhibiting signs of
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crisis long before they ever got to the point of acting out. look, that may not be -- >> so congressman -- >> right in every institution but it's working for them. >> okay, so it's working at that one school, and that's interesting, i think, but here's where i get confused. you talk about behavioral intervention, but you don't talk about keeping guns out of the hands of, as you say, everybody knew the troubled kid in high school. that's the lethal nexus. so in other words, i've read the bill that you've -- the legislation that you've proposed, the behavioral intervention guidelines about how schools can establish behavioral intervention, but it doesn't talk about after you identify that kid, keeping the gun out of that kid's hands. so do you support red flag laws? >> well, look, red flag laws certainly what we're dealing with on the floor of the house today. the lack of due process really it makes this a nonstarter, which is why i really wish the house would have whbehaved a
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little bit more like the senate in this. the senate was open to hearing from both sides. >> right. >> the house was not. nancy pelosi just simply wanted her bill to come to the floor. >> why is it a nonstarter? if you want to identify the troublemaker, why wouldn't you flag them and keep them from getting weapons? >> here's the thing, you might be able to have some interventional guidelines that would lead you in that direction, but the way the laws are written that we'll be voting on today or the way the bills are written that we'll be voting on today completely abrogate due process, and look, we're talking about a constitutional right. it is the second amendment after all. >> but it's not absolute, congressman. it's not absolute. but i mean the second amendment is not absolute. in other words, i'm only quoting -- i'm only quoting justice antonin scalia, who says it's not unlimited or absolute. so you can't just have any weapon. >> nothing is absolute. but look, if there was a serious
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discussion on the house side, i think you would see republicans enter into that discussion. you're seeing that on the senate, and here's the problem. the house is doing a series of bills today and tomorrow that is actually going to make the senate's job harder, and the senate actually does seem like they're getting -- you mentioned it earlier in your broadcast, the senate seems like they're making some effort to come to a conclusion here. >> i hope so, i hope so, congressman. but instead of talking about process, i just want to talk about sort of so i understand, talking about everything you're talking about about the troubled kid but not talking about guns to me is like mothers against drunk driving talking about everything except the car. it's the combination. you can't let the troubled teenager get a gun. why would -- answer me this -- an 18-year-old need an ar-15? >> well, look, that is a discussion that perhaps we could have had, but on the house side the way the legislation is
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constructed, thomas massey, in the rules committee yesterday pointed out that he suggested that maybe if we were willing to reconsider the age of selective service registration that he might have -- he might be willing to have that discussion. >> are you willing to? >> there was no effort -- >> i'm just asking your opinion. are you willing to raise the age to 21? >> i think this is one of those areas that deserves more study. we know for a fact -- we know for a fact that there are people who do feel that way, but on the other hand, when you look at -- >> but what about you, congressman? i mean, why can't you answer that? how do you feel about that? >> me personally? i don't think that's a direction that is reasonable to go. the ninth circuit has already ruled against that. >> but why does an 18-year-old need access to an ar-15? >> let's have the discussion. i'm willing to do that, but again, on the house side, all of
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that debate was simply foreclosed. we weren't going to do it. >> i hear what you're saying, but you know, people are ready for action. i think we've been talking a lot. we've been talking for decades, and people are ready for action. >> which is why i had the seminar six weeks ago in my district. this is important to me. i have family members who teach in middle school. this is important to me. >> yes, and i -- and i have kids who go to school. i would just remind you that one of the teachers who watched his 11 students get shot in uvalde said no training, no training ever prepares you for what happens when a gunman comes in like that, and they all had training, and they all got under their desk, and then they were all killed. i'm just quoting him, and that was his take after all of the school shooting trainings. >> and our police chief said he made the decision he was not going to go to 20 funerals and he was willing to do what he thought was necessary to protect his schools.
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>> okay. >> and it stood the test of time so far. >> congressman, michael burgess, thank you, we appreciate your perspective. >> thank you. russia's military claims ukraine is losing significant ground in the east, but ukrainian forces are still fighting. our sam kiley is just back from ukraine. he's with us next. america's bebt - where two pairs and a free exam start at just $79.95. can't beat that. can't beat this, either. book an exam today at when you order the new lemon ricotta blueberry protein pancakes with 37 grams of protein, you get a smile on youplate. ly from ihop. download t app and join the rewards program toy. we need to reduce plastic waste in the environment. that's why at america's beverage companies, our bottles are made to be re-made. not all plastic is the same. we're carefully designing our bottles to be 100% recyclable, including the caps. they're collected and separated from other plastics, so they can be turned back into material
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months since russia launched its unprovoked war on ukraine. russian state media reports more than a thousand ukrainian servicemen who recently surrendered in mariupol will be transported to russia for investigation. >> cnn's sam kiley joins us with more. great to have you here. investigation, that doesn't sound good. what does it really mean? >> the real danger is particularly for the azof brigade, which has been identified as a local terrorism organization, not acknowledged to be part of the ukrainian armed forces, not covered by geneva conventions, and potentially subjected, and this could be a gray area, possibly to capital punishment. none of this falls under anything we would recognize as ukrainian, russian, or international law. it has been part of the ukrainian armed forces for more than about seven or eight years now, and on top of that, of course, they are integrated into
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the whole combat operation there. but if you look at the treatment of people accused of being mercenaries who are also two brits and another foreigner who are currently being held inside the donbas, inside the russian held areas of the donbas, they're being accused of capital crimes potentially, being accused of murder because they're so called mercenaries, they were paid up members of the ukrainian armed forces, and in one cases, the brits, the ukrainian british national, so all of this, though, is drifting towards something potentially very very ugly from the russians. the flipside of that, of course is that the ukrainian have gotten a lot of russian prisoners. we have seen prisoner exchanges before. the hope is the red cross can get involved and prevent this. i think this is more of a bargaining statement from the russians. it is sinister they're being moved into russian territory. >> help us discern the truth from russian propaganda. the ministry of defense is claiming that in the donbas region, the ukrainians are
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suffering major losses, is that true or a line of propaganda. >> i don't believe either side in any war when they start talking about losses in the ranks of their enemy, so we take it with a pinch of salt anything the ukrainians say about 20,000 russian dead, we don't know how many ukrainian dead are, except president zelenskyy have said 50 to 100 people are dying on the front. sort of around kramatorsk, he's not talking about the southern front. that is even in the admission of the ukrainian death toll very substantial, and on top of that, there is beginning to be independent confirmation, and clearly i've seen it on the ground, the level of artillery exchanges, the amount of ordinance being thrown around. i have spoken to soldiers off the record, 120 men being killed during an assault. it is old fashioned trench warfare, and the losses are much more substantial than either side is going to admit.
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group. they have already filed an administrative claim. cnn's genjean casarez is here t explain. explain what happened here! this is the federal tort claims act. they're really giving notice to the fbi. you knew what larry nassar was doing to us. you found out in 2015. you didn't do anything, you allowed young women, young girls to continue to be abused by him, and that's not fair. and we are asking you for justice, really, and they have declined prosecution two times now. the department of justice. so this really is their last resort. monetary damages. now, the time line on all of this goes back to 2015 because that is when maggie nichols who was a world champion, and they were all of the ranch in texas, they were trained for the olympics, and maggie told a friend of hers what larry nassar was doing to her, and her coach found out, and that's when it started to go places. the fbi was told in 2015, and
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according to the office of inspector general report from 2021, the fbi in indianapolis did interviews, they took few notes. they did not formalized interviews at all. they put them in a drawer and they did not tell the appropriate people what larry nassar was doing. the department of justice declined to prosecute and it was last fall when some of this olympians and world athletes asked and were accepted by the senate judiciary committee to testify as to what happened to them, and to ask for justice. listen to simone biles. >> i don't want another young gymnast, olympic athlete or any individual to experience the horror that i and hundreds of others have endured before, during and continuing to this
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day in the wake of the larry nassar abuse. to be clear -- i'm sorry -- >> take your time. >> to be clear, i blame larry nassar, and i also blame an entire that enabled and perpetrated his abuse. >> after that hearing, the department of justice said they would relook at this, but it was last month that they declined prosecution for the second time and thus today, this was sent to the fbi. now, the fbi has six months to respond. and if they don't or if the settlement is not reached, then all of these 90 ladies can file a lawsuit. >> okay. we know you'll stay on it. jean


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