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respond to the claims just filed. the bureau could either reach a settlement or deny the claims. cnn has reached out to the justice department for response to these latest claims. we have gotten no response. >> brian todd reporting. thank you very much. to our viewers, thank you very much for watching. i'm wolf blitzer in "the situation room." "erin burnett outfront" starts right now. "outfront" next, new audio release thing hour of a republican lawmaker asking for a safety plan the day for the january 6th riots, warning trump supporters would go nuts. another republican saying he wasn't convinced there was election fraud, but said this is a political vote for all of us. and the destruction from an ar-15. we'll show you what this weapon is capable of doing to the human body. and selling out. more top professional golfers bucking the pga tour for a saudi
backed tournament. and they're doing it for the money. wait till you hear much. let's go "outfront." i'm erin burnett. "outfront" tonight, they are going to go nuts. that's a direct quote from a republican congresswoman, talking about trump supporters the day before the january 6th riots. saying she was "very concerned about what was to happen the next day" and she asked the house republican leader kevin mccarthy to come up with a safety plan. i'm not just giving these quotes from somebody said she said. no, it's all on tape. and part of new audio just released from "new york times" reporters alex burns and jonathan martin. here is congresswoman lasco on january 5th, 2021. >> i also asked leadership to come one a safety plan for members. i'm actually very concerned about this, because we have who knows how many hundreds of thousands of people coming here.
we have antifa. we also have, quite honestly trump supporters, who actually believe that we are going to overturn the election. and when that doesn't happen, most likely will not happen, they are going to go nuts. >> well, she was right about that. and she said this was the day before, right? you all remember the scene when those trump supporters ransacked the capitol, said "hang mike pence" attacked officers with whatever they had on them. a fire extinguisher, flagpoles. four people died. now five case later, mccarthy spoke to his members. and again, it's on tape, just released from burns and martin for their book "this will not pass." he said he got on the phone and told trump to call off the mob. >> when they started breaking into my office, i made a phone
call to the president, telling him what was going on, asking him to tell these people to stop, to make a video, and go out. and i was very intense and very loud about it. >> during that call, mccarthy also is on tape vowing to make someone pay for the attack. even raising the idea of a bipartisan commission to investigate. >> we cannot just sweep this under the rug. we need to know why it happened, who did it and people need to be held accountable for it. and i'm committed to making sure that happen. >> adam kinzinger and liz cheney make it bipartisan, but he pulled his own hand picked members from the committee, and said he won't participate in the investigation at all. well, that committee's first public hearing will be tomorrow night. and owl ryan nobles is "outfront" live on capitol hill.
obviously this is going to be a significant moment. you've had a year of an investigation, and now they are going to present hundreds of people, up to 600 people testifying. they are going to present what they believe to be the key story publicly. what are you learning about what we may hear tomorrow? >> reporter: that's right. so much of this investigation has been conducted behind closed doors. this is the opportunity for the committee to present some of its findings and put it into context. we know for instance that of the thousand or so depositions conducted, some of them have been with members of the trump inner circle, including his family. his daughter, ivanka trump, her husband, jared kushner. don, jr., his fiance kimberly guilfoyle. today, the chairman of the committee, bennie thompson, did not rule out the possibility we may see part of these depositions, at least clips from them as part of the hearings. whether or not they happen tomorrow night remains to be seen. we expect a number of hearings in june where we may hear
directly from these people in the trump circle. we know that tomorrow will be focused on the right-wing groups that caused so much violence and chaos on january 6th. it points back to this audio you just played, erin, this idea that people knew this was coming, including republicans. and part of what the committee will lay out is the idea that this was a premeditated attack, that there were people here with the specific purpose of rioting and causing chaos and violence. one of the individuals you'll hear from is nick quest, a documentaryian, who was embedded with the proud boys on january 6th and in a period of time leading up to january 6th. the committee considers him a first hand fact witness who can speak to this idea that this wasn't just a peaceful protest gone wrong, that there was a lot more to it. so this just the beginning of what will be a series of public hearings where we hear in great specificity for the first time what the committee has uncovered. >> ryan, thank you very much.
i want to go to jonathan martin. of course, he's also a national political correspondent for "the new york times." jonathan, these tapes, as you are releasing more and more of this audio, they tell the true story. this is what was actually said. this first public hearing is going to be tomorrow. the recordings that you uncovered have been very important in the committee's work. how will they come into play? >> i think what we have in this book, "this will not pass," is a portrait of a republican party that is deeply alarmed in the days leading up to january 6th about what could happen in the capitol on january 6th. but in terms of the threat itself to the health and safety of members, as you heard there at the top of the hour, but also the political implications as well, and namely, you know, what do we tell our voters back home
about whether or not to certify the results of the election? obviously, president trump put huge pressure on will youmakers to block certification of the election. that is what prompted that mob to storm the capitol on january 6th. i think what we have on these tapes, what we have in our book, is a very different republican party in the days before and after january 6th. and then today, when the bulk of members simply want to move on and do not want to talk about president trump's role inciting the mob on january 6th. but we have it on tape, and the tapes do not lie. and they capture the mindset in that moment. >> so in that mindset, i want to play something else that you have, a recording of kevin mccarthy. >> we need to know and have the facts exactly what happened and when. this needs to be done in a targeted way that doesn't need to distract from keeping the
capitol safe over the coming weeks. but what we learned is, people can get in. we learned that people planned. we need to have all the facts, especially for all of us. we should do it in a bipartisan manner. >> he wants the facts, he wants them in a bipartisan manner. he goes so far as to say people planned. he said these things. then of course, he said the opposite. have you been able to confront him with these recordings in his own words? >> erin, there was no bigger advocate for a bipartisan commission to investigate what happened on january 6th than kevin mccarthy himself in the immediate aftermath of the attack. you just heard that sound bite there. that's just one of them. he comes back to this multiple times in that conversation with gop members about the importance of creating this bipartisan panel to get to the bottom of what did happen. even after january 6th, to mccarthy's credit, he empowered one of his lieutenants in the
house to set up a bipartisan commission and that is what happened. it's not until donald trump said later in 2021, he did not want that query, that kevin mccarthy changed his mind and then opposed the creation of the 1/6 commission. that was done entirely at the prompting of trump, who wanted no bipartisan inquiry into what happened on the 6th. as we now know and capture in our book, republicans, especially in the house, salute donald trump and do his bidding when he makes that kind of an ask. >> you know, one thing that also stands out here, of course, is there are -- there are americans and trump supporters who believe what they were told by the president, right? and then they saw members of congress vote that way, right? vote to overturn the election. it cemented that belief, and they believe in those people. the people who did that, of course, did so knowing that it was b.s. i want to play a recording you played of a congressman from
indiana. >> the reality is, this is a political vote for many of us. i'm going to vote my district. my district wants me to object to the states that get bid cammeral rejections. and that's how i'm going to vote. do i like it? no. >> so do i like it? no. voting against what he believed was the right thing to do and he was going to vote for his district. but this is the reality of -- this is putting up facts, right? but from what you are reporting, he said it out loud. how many other republicans agree? >> oh, this is a fascinating insight. this is right before january 6th, where they're trying to litigate whether or not they were going to vote to certify the results. a lot of members are talking and high minded, constitutional tones about what the founders would have wanted. and then you have a handful of
members, including the gentleman t there from the hoosier state who said no, this is a political vote. our members back home in largely conservative districts, red america, they don't want to hear the constitutional argument. they want you to side with trump. that's what he did, and so many of his colleagues did. >> it is -- it is amazing. thank you so much, jonathan martin. i appreciate it. the audio book is out today for "this will not pass." and those recordings that you just heard obviously much more of that. and those are so crucial to these hearings that we are going to publicly see. thank you. next, heartbreaking pleas to lawmakers to do something about gun violence. a mother, whose daughter died in uvalde, an 11-year-old girl who survived that massacre. will their words make a difference? >> i had blood all over me.
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pass the most aggressive gun reform measures in years, as 160 republicans support democrats to support extending background checks. but banning bump stock attachments, only 13 republicans supported doing that. 10 republicans supported raising the minimum age to 21 to buy most semiautomatic rifles. only 8 voted to ban untraceable ghost guns. only four voted to ban the sale of large capacity magazines. that gives you an indication of, you know, the senate, obviously, if you have such little support for those things in the house, it makes it more difficult in the senate. these bills aren't going to go anywhere in the senate, despite the emotional testimony delivered on capitol hill today, including an 11-year-old uvalde student who covered herself in her classmate's blood to survive. phil mattingly is out front.
>> do you feel safe at school? why not? >> because of what happened. >> reporter: the searing words of maya cirillo. >> he shot my friend that was next to me, and i thought he was going to come back to the room, so i put a little blood all over me. >> reporter: the haunting pain from the voices of kimberly and felix rubio. >> i can still see her walking with us toward the exit. the reel that keeps scrolling across my memories, she turns her head to acknowledge my promise, and then we left. i left my daughter in that school, and that decision will haunt me for the rest of my life. >> reporter: or this detail from the doctor. >> two children whose body has been pulverized, decapitated, flesh ripped apart.
the only clue of their identity was their clothes. >> reporter: the fourth grade survivor, the parents of a murdered child, a pediatrician, the voices of uvalde, texas. pleading for action in washington. >> somewhere out there is a mom listening to my testimony thinking i can't even imagine their pain. not knowing that our reality will one day be hers. unless we act now. >> reporter: as bipartisan senators engaged in another day of intensive talks, weighing a narrow agreement that would include incentives for red flag laws, opening juvenile records and funding for mental health checks. it's a deal that would fall short of the requests of the witnesses. >> we seek a ban on assault rifles and high capacity magazines. >> reporter: but it presents the most significant opportunity for
change white house officials and lawmakers say they have seen in years. a recognition of the horror reflected in the words of maya cirillo's father. >> i lost my baby girl. she's not the same little girl i used to play with and hang around with, and do everything. >> reporter: the response from those who have witnessed the carnage firsthand. >> making sure our children are safe from guns, that's the job of our politicians and leaders. in this case, you are the doctors and our country is the patient. we are plbleeding out and you a not there. my oath as a doctor means i signed up to save lives. i do my job, and i guess it turns out i am here to made, beg, please, please, do yours. >> reporter: erin, here at the white house and talking to officials today, there is cautious optimism that something can be done. even though joe biden is currently on the west coast for the summit of americas, his
staff deeply engaged in those capitol hill discussions, it will fall short of what he laid out if something gets across the finish line, no question about that. but as one official told me earlier, given the roadblocks that have been in place due to republican opposition, you can't overstate the importance of getting anything done on this issue, erin. >> thank you very much, phil. i want to go now to texas state senator rowland gutierrez. senator, appreciate having you back with me. today, the justice department announced that there's a team, and this team will review the law enforcement response to the shooting in uvalde, and the attorney general, though, did make it clear that this is not a criminal investigation. is that good enough for you? >> you know, erin, we've talked about over and over about the errors, human errors, system errors. i know that's important to people, and it's important to me to make sure that we get the right answers.
but probably more important to me is that mrs. rubio and the others get the answers that they need. when are politicians going to do their jobs? they care more about defense than they do mothers in the country. there is a strong man trying to keep it together for his wife. his wife is still in her bedroom. she cannot get out. i mean, do people not understand what's going on in this country? we have to do something about getting these guns out of the hands of 18-year-olds. greg abbott in austin can't do anything. and folks in washington simply don't do anything. enough is enough. >> senator, you know, obviously in the senate, there are conversations going on. they think they have something. but the house gives you an indication of where a lot of these efforts are going to go,
efforts that the american public support. you had 160 republicans join democrats to expand background checks. that's good news. only 13 republicans in the house of representatives voted to ban bump stock attachments, used in las vegas. only ten republicans support raising the minimum age to buy a semiautomatic to 21. only four voted to ban the sale of large capacity magazines, which is how shootings like this are possible. it doesn't look like these things are going to go anywhere. >> it seems countcounterintuiti. 80% polled say they want the age increased to 21. you can't even buy a beer or pack of cigarettes. what are we talking about? it takes 35 hours in texas to get a driver's license. and the governor can't even
raise the age limit? do you really care more about the gun companies and the nra than the moms in uvalde or el paso and santa fe and southerland springs? what are we talking about? just do the minimum. that's it. you have to do the minimum here. and they refuse. >> senator, thank you very much. i appreciate your time. i always do. senator gutierrez. >> thank you, ma'am. and next, the weapon of choice for mass shooters. the ar-15. we're going to show you what that style rifle can do to the human body. >> so it basically goes into the body and creates an explosion inside the body. >> chilling details of what a california man accused of plotting to skill supreme court justice brett kavanaugh was carrying, including a pistol, a tactical kninife and crowbar.
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weapons ban. >> why do you oppose reinstating the assault weapons ban? >> we're trying to get an outcome, guys. >> it comes as other republicans try to justify the need for ar-15 style weapons. the number one weapon used in recent mass shootings. >> in my state, they use them to shoot prairie dogs. >> why does one need an ar-15? >> if you talk to the people who own it, killing feral pigs in louisiana, they wonder why would you take it away from them? >> an ar-15 is the gun of choice to kill raccoons before they get to our chicken. >> not for hunting, because it would destroy so much, what you would actually -- >> reporter: they are known as assault-style weapons. and have been used in some of the country's deadliest
shootings. from uvalde, tulsa, and el paso, to parkland, san bernardino, and sandy hook, the rifle has been the weapon of choice for many of the killers. >> we're hot. >> reporter: the los angeles police department demonstrates on the gun range. >> you have a 16 to 20-inch barrel, a stock that is shouldered. you will be accurate at further distances. >> reporter: not to mention, it can pierce soft body armor, something he knows firsthand. >> it's definitely an automatic weapon. >> reporter: he took fire during the 1997 north hollywood shootout, where two bank robbers fired on police for nearly an hour. injuring eight people and 12 officers, including the skt. -- sergeant. >> we were being hit with
asphalt, radiator fluid. >> reporter: that shooting changed policy, prompting the lapd and other departments to upgrade their own weaponry to counter the guns used by assailants. that firepower from weapons is studied inside a ballistics lab in wayne state university, where researchers simulate a bullet's impact on the human body. >> it's a block of 20% gelatin, meant to represent soft tissue. >> reporter: watch as they fire a hand gun round into the gel tin block. >> for this round, you'll see the bullet come in on this side, you'll see this temporary cavity happening. so that expansion is what happens in the body and then it collapses down. so that's where your damage comes in. >> reporter: now watch as they require a round from an assault rifle. >> we see a lot more disruption. this round breaks apart, it doesn't exit. so it's about 3,000 feet per second, and all of that energy goes into the soft tissue. we have a piece of plastic here
to do the videos, and it lifted the plastic off the table. >> reporter: the hand gun round shows a straight line, exiting the other side. but not so with the round from an ar-15. >> it goes into the body and creates an explosion inside the body. >> reporter: trauma surgeons say the wounds can be catastrophic. >> the worst part, in a child, all the vital organs are that much closer together. so each bullet causes irreversible damage. >> reporter: in uvalde, texas, families were asked for dna swabs. >> as a mom, it really affects me because i cannot imagine having a child endure this. >> reporter: with high capacity magazines, suspects can shoot for much longer. the discussion about high capacity magazines reduces the amount of time a suspect can fire without reloading. as a former fbi agent, we were
quickly trained to get your weapon reloaded. but for a suspect who isn't trained, that is a process. it involves removing the empty magazine, obtaining a fresh round of ammunition, loading it into the weapon, charging the weapon, getting it back up on target. those are all precious seconds where victims can be fleeing, the gun can jam, or the suspect could be engaged by law enforcement or bystanders. knowing the damage that sustained firepower can do, researchers hope their critical findings lead to awareness. >> regardless of where one comes down on the gun control debate, it's indisputable that the assault weapon causes significant damage to a body. >> definitely. this is the reality. this is what's happening. >> reporter: erin, we often hear these rifles described as weapons of war. that's because that was the original intent. the u.s. military required a weapon that was lightweight with a high kill rate. by the vietnam rate, it was standard issue.
it was then marketed to the general public. and we know that not only law abiding citizens have this weapon but so many mass shootings. as we see the carnage, it's important to keep in mind this is exactly what this weapon was intended to do. erin? >> it's really important to keep saying it, it was built to kill humans and to kill a lot of them quickly. josh campbell, thank you very much for that. it was hard to watch, but very important reporting. i want to note, this that legislation that just came up before the house, there were only four republicans who voted to ban sale of large capacity magazines. "outfront" next, a man arrested near supreme court justice brett kavanaugh's house. he traveled from california with a pistol to kill the justice. and professional golfers, ditching the pga tour for the saudi golf tour. some reportedly earning nine figures to make the jump. it's the number one doctor recommended brand that
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justice brett kavanaugh. officials say 26-year-old nicholas john rossky was found with a glock 17 pistol with two magazines and ammo, a tactical knife, crowbar and duct tape. and that he was upset about the leak about abortion rights and the uvalde massacre. according to the complaint, and i quote, he stated that he began thinking how to give his life a purpose and decided to kill the supreme court justice. that's a quote. asked if he understood the nature of the charges, he said he wasn't thinking clearly. "outfront" now, a judge whose son was shot in a targeted attack at their home nearly two years ago. judge, i'm grateful to have you with me tonight. i'm thankful that you are willing to speak, especially knowing how -- thinking how difficult this sort of a story
is for you. when you first heard this, a man is arrested outside the home of brett kavanaugh, charged with attempted murder, what did you think? >> you know, i'm still recovering from the news of judge john roamer, who was assassinated in his home this past friday. so mark and i obviously are very concerned about the escalating intensity of these threats. we can look over the years and see how many judges have abeen assassinated. and there are quite a few. we start with judge woods deronca, her 92-year-old mother was killed in 2005. and my beautiful boy, who was a gift from god. i had four miscarriages, and dand daniel was our only child. he was killed in our home on a sunday july 19, 2020. less than two years later, we
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the bill named after him, that would seek to protect judges, try to help judges and families, stuck in limbo right now in congress. what do you say to lawmakers? >> you know, i think that as americans, we look to our members of congress, we look to our leaders to lead in a time of crisis. this is a crisis. democracy is in trouble. the rule of law, the justice system as we know it, is in trouble. and we need leaders to step up and lead. and that includes republicans, democrats, and independents. this bill, ms. burnett, is a bipartisan, bicammeral bill, supported by members of congress, no matter which side of the aisle they sit on. this bill is a common sense bill that really is narrowly tailored to address this compelling
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he promised to isolate the saudis over the killing of journalist jamal khashoggi. >> khashoggi was, in fact, murdered and dismembered, and i believe on the order of the crown prince. i would make it very clear we are not going to, in fact, sell more weapons to them. we are going to, in fact, pay the price and make them, in fact, the pariah that they are. there's very little social redeeming value in the present government in saudi arabia. they have to be held accountable. >> it's clear he meant what he said then. of course, now that he's the president, reality intrudes. and it's not just biden who is cozying up to the saudi machine. now some of the biggest names in golf are bucking the pga tour and will tee off the inaugural tournament of the lucrative saudi golf series. phil mickelson is on the list. he accepted a reported 2 wood00
million to go to the tournament, saying he doesn't condone the human rights violations, as he was grilled by reporters. >> there isn't a danger you're also being seen as a -- an attempt to improve a human rights regime through sport. are you sorry for the shameless hi ypocrisy of taking their mon? >> "outfront" now, bob, i want to start with phil mickelson. he is one of many taking these shockingly large paydays to do this. you wrote a book about him and his rivalry with tiger woods. he was criticized for this, backed off, nobody would touch it. now they're all taking the money. a lot of other big names have joined in. this does appear to, well, i
mean, let's just be honest, be about the money. . >> no question. when you get right down to it, it's about the money. and it's -- forget about these huge sums that are being offered just to sign on, as you just mentioned there, 100 million plus, 200 million for phil allegedly. but the purses that they're playing for. this week's event here is $25 million and only 48 players. $20 million of it is for the individuals, $4 million to the winner. the guy who finishes in last place is going to make $120,000. if you finish last place in every one of these events, there's a season ending event that's $50 million. you're going to make over a million dollars to. make a million dollars on the pga tour, you have to play some pretty good golf. and there's probably 100 or so guys, more than that, who did that last year. but they also paid their own
expenses, and they risked missing cuts and they have to pay caddies and such. so, this is very, very lucrative without the guaranteed money that they're getting up front. >> it's pretty incredible when you lay it out that way, bob. so, the public face of the saudi league is top golf greg morman, and he said tiger woods turned down the saudis. i just want to emphasize that. tiger woods said no. mr. norman said he specifically turned down close to a billion dollars, that tiger woods turned down close to a billion dollars. do you think that's a real number? >> i -- i would -- i would be skeptical about that number simply because i'm not sure that tiger actually ever got to the table to talk about this with them. his agent, mark stienburg, has not been in favor of the liv golf invitational series.
none of his clients are doing it. tiger and greg norman are not close. they do not have a good relationship. i doubt seriously that tiger spoke to him personally about this. it's possible that norman's people reached out to tiger's people and some stuff was, you know, tossed around. but let's be -- let's be real. if they were going to get tiger, you know, it would have to be for a lot more than some of these other numbers that we're hearing. so, it would -- it would clearly be a ton of money to get him to do this if they're going to pay some of these other guys the huge amount. it would be bigger, obviously. but i just -- i just sort of wonder if that is a little bit of hyperbole there that was coming from greg norman. >> well, it's interesting, your perspective is so important. but of course, you know, he's not doing it. bob wright, thank you very much, i look forward to seeing your analysis and work here. i know you're in london to cover it. i will take a look at what you
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tonight, president biden calling on states to invest more money in police departments, as one of the most liberal cities in the country delivers a clear rejection of progressive policies. voters in san francisco recalling district attorney chesa chesa boudin, who made waves throughout his tenure, ending cash bail, and trying to reduce the number of people sent to prison. >> i think the voters sent a clear message last night. both parties have to step up and do something about crime as well as gun violence. >> "outfront" now, harry inton, cnn data reporter. obviously the president trying to make this about both sides and lengthy gun reform. this is a progressive d.a. who sort of is emblematic of where some of the progressive left are
in this country. what does it tell us about the democratic party that this happened? >> i think it tells you the same thing -- i feel like we've done this segment five or six times over the last five or six years. that is the democratic party isn't as liberal as some progressives wish it were. the majority of voters in the democratic party identify as either moderate or conservative. that's specifically true of voters of color, who of course make up the democrat party's base. and very liberals within the democratic party found that only about a fifth of all democrats identify as very liberal. that's why someone like chesa boudin in san francisco, they had no problem tossing him out. >> so, you're saying a fifth of the party again. i have to remind people, only about 35% of the public identifies as democrat. you're talking about a fifth of a third, you're getting smaller numbers. >> you're only talking about a
tenth to an eighth. >> right. that is obviously very significant. president biden obviously recognizes a problem for his party. that's why you've said the voters have sent a message, calling on states to invest more money in policing. this is a bigger problem than san francisco. >> yes. it is a bigger problem than san francisco. if you look nationally, look at the polling, the percentage of americans dissatisfied with crime policies is the highest right now as it has been all century, all century. and we've seen a 20-point jump over the last two years alone. it's up to now -- you can see on your screen -- 72% of americans nationwide are dissatisfied with crime policy nationally. and it's beyond just san francisco, where we've been seeing rising crime rates, right? we can look at theft or larceny, and what you can see across the major cities, chicago, new york, los angeles, and san francisco, double digit rising in those over the last year. and in places like new york and chig, those rises are approaches 50%. it's no wonder that lightfoot in
chicago, mayor lightfoot, is coming out of the box with a tough on crime message. the fact of the matter is voters see where the crime rates are and they are reacting. >> they're reacting. and new york they've got a new mayor. >> and he's tough on crime too. >> harry inton, thank you very much. thanks very much to all of you. thanks very much to all of you. anderson starts now. -- captions by vitac -- www.vitac.com a fourth grader talks about watching her friends and teachers murdered. a mother describes the shrapnel that will be in her son's body for life. a doctor recounts the kinds of wounds once seen only on battlefields but are now inflicted the movie theaters, synagogues, supermarkets, and most recently, fourth grade classrooms. the house committee heard from people whose lives were touched and changes forever by the mass shootings in buffalo and uvalde. their testimony came with lawmakers in both chambers