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because we don't have the water to do it. >> there's this assumption it's always going to be there until it's not there. these two american fighters may well have been captured by the very russians they've been fighting. >> we suspect they were knocked out by either the t72 shooting at them or the mine. >> he had this gnawing on his heart and burden to serve the people however he can. i just want to see him back safely. i'm jessica dean in washington. pamela brown has the evening off. and you are in the "cnn newsroom." there are now three americans missing in ukraine after they joined fighters there to battle ininvading russian army. they're the loved ones of these missing men, the anxiety, the fear, the worry is intense. for the biden administration it's a troubling situation as
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the state department works to find them. cnn's barbara starr has the latest developments. >> reporter: it was in the fighting north of kharkiv where two americans went missing last week, less than 5 miles from the russian border. the u.s. government working with ukrainian authorities to find them. >> i have been briefed. we don't know where they are, but i want to reiterate americans should not be going to ukraine now. >> reporter: now this photo from a russian blogger has emerged of alexander and andy appeared to be bound in the back of a russian military vehicle. video later emerging of an interview they did with pro-russian media. cnn is not showing the video as the two appear to be speaking under duress. now the state department is working to verify their status. >> they said that there is a photograph that is being
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circulated on the russian media, and they're working hard to verify it. we're very hopeful. >> reporter: retired staff sergeant druuke served in both kuwait and iraq. his mother, bunny, tells cnn her son wanted to lend his skills to train those who were coming to ukraine to fight. >> he felt if putin wasn't stopped now he would just become boulder with every success and that eventually he might end up on american shores. >> reporter: former marine cor cor cor cor corporal nygen. >> he told me he loved me very
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much and he had this gnawing at his heart and this big burden on him to serve the people however he can, and i'm still very proud of him and i just want to see him back safely. >> reporter: one of their comrades in ukraine whose identity we're keeping hidden exclusively telling cnn's sam kylie drueke and huyn were captured by a russian assault. a kremlin spokesperson told cnn we do not know anything about it when asked about the missing americans. the u.s. also confirming a third american went missing in ukraine in april. cnn has learned he's retired captain grady, a 20-year veteran of the marine corp. a friend who served with him for years says he has cellphone data that shows he could be being held in the russian controlled
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city of kehrson but acknowledges they don't know if he's alive. >> he wanted to go out there and try to help. >> reporter: all three of the missing americans having served in the military puts them in unique danger if captured by russians. >> you routinely are swimming or immersed in these kind of sensitive programs. i'm not certain the level of that exposure, but i can guarantee you the russians are going to try to extract that information. >> reporter: barbara starr, cnn, the pentagon. >> and joining me now to discuss cnn military analyst and retired generals james spider marks and mark hurtling. generals, great to see you. i also want to reiterate cnn is choosing not to broadcast the video of the two men because it does show them under duress. general marks, let's start with you. talk to me what kind of person is being attracted to the battle
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ukraine is fighting, to go in over there. >> oh, my goodness, look, we have a ton of incredible veterans that have got some amazing experience over the course of the last couple of decades of combat that mark -- mark hurtling and i have been a part of. so they've got this sense of service. they want to make a difference. they see what russia is doing to ukraine. the challenge is clearly, look, this is combat zone. this is a war zone. i would give these great americans an a plus for initiative but a "c" minus for judgment. this does not make sense because of the legitimate challenges we're seeing, and it really puts america at a disadvantage. you know, there are limits to our influence to try to extract them. >> and general hurtling, i want to play a little more from sam kylie's interview. we can listen to that. >> so what advice would you give
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finally for anybody thinking of wanting to join the legion? >> oh, wow, well, if you have no military background, if you don't have any combat experience, if you expect to come here with air support, intense helicopter support then stay home because that is not the case. it is the russian army, and they have massive amounts of artillery. they have massive amounts of armor and the ukrainians are giving it their damnedest. >> and general hurtling, do you think it's a wise decision? do you agree? we heard president biden and barbara's story before this saying don't go to ukraine right now. do you agree with president biden? >>ia, i'm going to add to what my friend spider just said. this is certainly an emotional issue, but i'm going to provide some unfortunate facts. in late february and early march president biden told u.s. citizens not to go to ukraine and echoed that today. and there's a reason for that.
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the u.s. actually has a law against individual u.s. citizens getting involved in foreign wars. it's called the neutrality act. it was originally written in 1794 specifically by george washington during the french revolution because he didn't want soldiers going to france to fight for lafayette. updated in the 1800s, again several times in the 1930s. it basically says u.s. citizens acting on their own and attacking the armed forces of a foreign state could inadvrptly draw our nation into a war we don't want. these laws are part of a slate of u.s. code provisions with a common principle, and that is the u.s. government not individual americans taking action on their own determine foreign policy. and specifically the question of america, the people and its territoriesverb have a fighting war and foreign war. while many people want to contribute, going to fight for
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another country, putting yourself in harms way on the battlefield is not -- these soldiers are not considered c combatants under the laws of land warfare. and in fact they could be described by russia and probably will be as saboteurs, insurgents, mercenaries and all sorts of other things. i suspect russia will not look favorably on freeing these individuals as spider just said. they will exact a very high cost, and i also would suggest the capture of these individuals may hinder the u.s. getting other citizens that are being held in russia for criminal charges or trumped-up charges, getting them out of russia. so this is a very unfortunate situation. and where it's emotionally charged to say we love to help ukraine, as americans unless you're enlisting as part of ukraine's army there's some legal implications to all this. >> general marks, you say as former u.s. military, russians could try to extract military
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intel from these presumed captives. what concerns you the most about that? >> well, we certainly don't know or at least we can assume the type of captivity these individuals will be in. and first and foremost we'll probably get very little information on what that looks lying. what all these soldiers and marines, all these service members are exposed to sensitive programs that exist in the military just as a matter of breathing air, just as routine -- the routine course of doing their jobs they get exposed to certain things. that's valuable information. i would state quite clearly each of these individuals probably has information about those ukrainian units that they were supporting, less so in terms of what u.s. capabilities are. but let's not forget they are former soldiers and marines. they have information, they have skill sets. the russians would be very interested in trying to extract that and use that to their advantage.
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>> and general hurtling, more broadly as russia becomes more and more diplomatic isolated which we're beginning to see putin is vowing to accomplish all his goals in ukraine and said although he's not threatening anyone with nuclear weapons he'll protect russia's sovereignty if necessary. so at this point how do you think that ends? >> well, you know, spider and i have both said this multiple times, jessica. we can't look into the mind of vladimir putin. we don't know how this is going to end. the only thing we do know is this war for him has been a strategic failure on so many levels. what he's looking for now is an out. he's looking for some type of what i would say is a tactical victory because he has not reached any of his strategic objectives. so, you know, i don't know what's going to happen next. he's certainly trying to look for an out in my view. will that come through diplomacy or will it come through continued attacks on the battlefield? and i i suggest the russian
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forces are gradually getting weaker while ukraine's forces are gradually getting stronger. >> our thanks to you both for your analysis on this saturday night. thank you. >> thanks, jessica. thanks, mark. let's turn now to the uvalde school shooting investigation. the texas house committee investigating the rampage says city police will voluntarily testify on monday, but there's no sign yet that the embattled school police chief will appear. cnn's rosa flores is in texas with even more new details about the chaos once the attack began. rosa? >> reporter: jessica, this shines light on the law enforcement response that day. according to the county sheriff he said he arrived on scene after 12:00 p.m. on that day, that he approached the scene from the southeast side of the campus. according to texas dps the shooter entered the school on the west side.
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he said when he arrived on scene police had already setup a perimeter, and he remembers it being chaotic. he had his portable radio with him and he could hear radio frequency from texas dps and traffic going back and forth, but he could not hear uvalde pd and uvalde school district radio traffic. i asked him who was in charge at the scene at the time? he said he never heard anyone say who was in charge of the scene. according to texas dps they say it was pete arradondo, something he refuted in an interview with the texas tribune. shortly after he arrived an off-duty border patrol officer was asking for help evacuating students, so he helped evacuate four to five classrooms, then he said the shooter was found and he got closer to where the shooting happened. i asked why didn't officers go in to stop the shooter sooner, and he says from where he was he
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never heard gunshots. now, jessica, if you're like me you're wondering how's it possible someone can be on the scene on that campus and not hear gunshots? well, i talked to a woman who lived across the street from the school and away from where the shooting happened and she also told me she never heard gunshots on that day. jessica? >> rosa flores for us, thanks so much. and another astonishing moment that might have changed the course of this tragedy, "the new york times" reporting a uvalde city police officer who himself had an ar-15 rifle hesitated when he had a brief moment to shoot the gunman before the killer went into the school. a senior sheriff's deputy who spoke to the officer tells "the times" he was worried about his bullets hitting a child. >> to be fair the deputy sheriff i talked to who also responded to the scene at robb elementary school said this was a very difficult and fraught decision for an officer.
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when the officers arrived the gunman was shooting outside the school, and those officers felt they were under fire themselves and worried were they to open fire at this gunman and they missed, and unfortunately in that scenario may have hit a child, that may might have been blamed in some way for doing the wrong thing, so that hesitation, that moments sort of hesitation -- we're really talking about seconds here according to this deputy sheriff, that that allowed this gunman to go inside. >> reporter: the uvalde police department has not responded to the "the times" request for comment. in alabama a third senior citizen has died from thursday's mass shooting inside a church. the latest victim an 84-year-old woman who was attending a potluck dinner at st. stevens episcopal church in a small town in birmingham. her family has asked her name be withheld. we're also learning someone attending that gathering was able to grab the 70-year-old suspect and hold him until
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police arrived. you're in the "cnn newsroom," and coming up this hour legendary artist chaka khan here to talk about juneteenth's celebration for freedom concerts. also ahead, authorities in california seized $60,000 worth of meth hidden in a child's booster seat. meantime, a fallen firefighter hailed a hero after a building collapses in philadelphia. plus everything you need to know about nasa's plan to send humans to the moon for the first time in 50 years. we'll be right back. wewe got iphone 13s, too. switcd to verizon two minutes ago. (mom brown) ours were busteded and we still got a shiny new one. (boy brown) check it out! (dad allen) so, wait. everybody gets the same great deal? (mom allen) i think that's the point. (vo) now everyone can get a new iphone 13 on us on america's most reliable 5g network. (allen kid) can i have a phone? (vo) for every customer. current, new, everyone. to show the love.
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brothers out of this place. and it's going to be a rough few weeks coming up. >> the philadelphia mayor tweeting his condolences, writing in part grieving with the members of the philadelphia fire department and all of philadelphia who lost one of our own in the line of duty today. reporter becka hendrickson with cnn affiliate wpbi was at the scene a short time ago. >> reporter: we know this fire originally started just before 2:00 this morning. take a look at this video from the 300 block of indiana avenue where the fire started. just before 2:00 this morning it seemed like a routine fire and then around 3:24 it turned to tragedy when there was a collapse. we know several floors in the building collapsed. they described it as a pancake collapse meaning there were voids created during this, and several people became trapped under the rubble. five firefighters, one lni inspector. the other five people who were injured in this were taken to
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the hospital, and we're told that they're recovering. we're working to learn more, but, again devastating news this morning from the fairhill section. one firefighter is dead after this catastrophic collapse. >> and philadelphia fire officials releasing the name of the firefighter killed in the building collapse. this is lieutenant sean williamson, 51 years old, a 27-year veteran of the fire department. and the mayor saying in a statement for 27 years he dedicated his life to protecting the people of our city. i share my deepest condolences with his loved ones, the philly fire department and everyone who knew him. >> the january 6th house select committee is gearing up for more public hearings in this next week. on tuesday they plan to detail how the trump team tried to get states illegally change their 2020 election results. and among those expected to testify georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger and arizona house speaker rusty
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bowers. both republican officials say trump pressured them to help steal the election. neither of them bowed to that pressure. cnn's marshal cohen is joining me now. and safe to assume we're now going to hear that infamous phone call between donald trump and election officials in georgia. we've heard that, but we'll probably learn more as well. >> it could just be the tip of the iceberg, that phone call. but, look, if last week was all about how donald trump tried to pressure mike pence, his own vp, to overturn the election this week, tuesday's hearing is going to be all about how trump tried to do that same gambit on the states, specifically in the states he lost like arizona and georgia. so three witnesses so far confirmed for tuesday as you mentioned brad raffensperger, the republican secretary of state in georgia. one of his top deputies gave sterling who was a pretty loud voice at the time, debunking conspiracy theories, pushing back against donald trump when things got particularly heated
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down there, and also rusty bowers, the house speaker in arizona who also was the subject of a pretty serious pressure campaign by donald trump and rudy giuliani to try to wipe away joe biden's victory and appoint a friendly slate of republican electors who could cast illegitimate votes in the electoral college, but just to paint a picture of what we're going to bow hearing let's go back one year, year and a half and listen to some of that pressure that was caught on tape. donald trump, brad raffensperger, just a few days before january 6th. this is how the sitting president tried to twist his arm to get him to mess around with the vote tallies. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> yeah, right.
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just one more. it wasn't really about a legitimate election or election integrity. it was just about messing with the results and trying to steal a victory. the committee, the january 6th select committee says this is so much bigger than just one day january 6th but it's so much more. they say this was a multi-step, multi-state and they call it an attempted coup. >> we continue to hear from republican officials, a host of republicans telling this story in their own ways. >> all three of these guys testifying on tuesday they're all republicans. they're all conservatives. they all endorsed donald trump in 2020 and voted for donald trump in 2020, but they wouldn't cross the rubicon. they wouldn't violate their oath. they stood up for the rule of law, and now they find themselves basically testifying against a republican president in front of the american public. >> thanks so much. we know you'll be watching on tuesday. and you are in the "cnn newsroom."
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cdc director dr. rochelle walensky has officially signed off on both the pfizer and moderna covid vaccines for kids age 6 months to 5 years old. cnn health reporter jacqueline howard has more on the vaccines and how quickly children can start receiving them. jacqueline? >> reporter: jessica, the white house says shots could begin as early as this week.
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pediatrician offices and pharmacies will be the sites of where these vaccines will be administered. and remember children under 5 will have two options, moderna or pfizer. the fda authorized both for children as young as 6 months old. moderna is administered in two doses. pfizer is administered in three doses as a primary series. so the first two doses are given three weeks apart. the third dose is given at least 8 weeks after the second dose. and the dosage is different for each vaccine. moderna is given as 25 micrograms each dose, that's for kids 5 and younger, and that's half of the 50 micrograms given to older kids and a quarter of the 100 micrograms given to adolescents and adults. pfizer is given as 3 micrograms per dose for children younger than 5. that's smaller than the 10 micrograms given tooler kids and the 30 micrograms given to
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parades were held across the country today. the celebration in buffalo, new york, bittersweet. people there still grieving from the racist shooting last month. governor hochul was there to show her support and she spoke about the white supremacist ideology still lingering in america today. >> that long journey toward real civil rights may have started back at that time, but it is still unfinished business as we have seen today when there's still rampant racism and as we saw manifest itself here on may 14th. white supremacists who have such hate in their hearts they'll travel to a community like buffalo and end the lives of ten good buffalonians. >> tomorrow cnn will host its inaugural juneteenth concert with a slate of african american artists and musicians will take the stage in los angeles to
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celebrate and highlight the ongoing fight for equality in the black community. and one of those artists includes the one and only -- ♪ i think i love you ♪ ♪ i feel for you ♪ >> -- ten time grammy winner chaka khan who will be performing live on cnn during juneteenth tomorrow. and she joins us live right now for a preview of all of that. thanks so much for being with us. we're delighted to have you on. i want to talk to you about tomorrow night's celebration and performance. but first i want to talk yooto you about what drew you in of being part of this celebration tomorrow and what juneteenth means to you. >> well, obviously -- well, maybe not so obviously, but i was compelled to be a part of the celebration of our emancipation.
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i think that something needs to be -- you need a day. anybody needs a date to commemorate something special in this country. now we have a date which is called for juneteenth for quite a while for the 19th, came up. i just hope that this is a step in a more positive direction for not only this country -- >> and we know you grew up in chicago in the '50s and '60s. you talked about the racism you faced there when you were an up-and-coming artist. now as you prepare to
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commemorate this new national holiday on national television as a star i'm curious about what you've seen in your career. have you seen progress? have you not seen progress? what still needs to be done in your eyes? >> so much needs to be done in my eyes that i couldn't even get started on it. it would just -- it would take too long. i've been the object of racism. what i do for a living is very racist, and then on top of that as a woman -- all women can share this -- we have a glass ceiling in this country.
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we don't get paid as much as men do. i can go on and on. the music industry is very racist. there's a box that most black artists, almost every black artist -- i can't think of any who aren't really. we are placed in a box that we are never able to play outside of. and it's very real, and when you look at it it'sa very obvious. i know there are lots of them, lots and lots of great many
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lesser artists than myself not that there's any competition who might make a lot more money and i can go on and on. but i'd rather focus on the fact that tomorrow is a celebration hopefully for younger people, little children who will be able to grow up and put a date to their emancipation as we have been unable to do throughout my lifetime. and i must say i'm a tad skeptical about -- >> and so talk to me about that show tomorrow. what can we expect to see? >> a damn good show. >> it sounds like it. it sounds like it's going to be a good time and a good show. what are you looking forward to most? >> well, working with my good friends, "the roots," who for
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me -- these guys are so socially plugged in. they get it. they get it socially -- they get the whole social picture and know the music industry. and they know what -- they are just great musicians all around. >> yeah, yeah. and how much have you been able to collaborate with everybody in putting this together? >> well, i was pretty much asked kind of last minute to do this. i'm actually touring at the
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moment. during a world -- not a world tour -- a united states tour. i'll be doing that up until november. we've already done a couple months -- i had a couple weeks, well a week and a half off. i got asked in that first week, the first two days could i be a part of this celebration. and when i saw the roots were also part of it, i couldn't say no. >> well, we cannot wait to watch you tomorrow and all of your friends, the roots, everybody, take the stage. chaka khan, thank you so much and we'll be watching tomorrow. >> good. have a good time and enjoy yourself. i hope things get better for all of us. >> indeed. thank you so much for sharing with us. we appreciate it. juneteenth, a global celebration for freedom airs live tomorrow at 8:00 only on cnn.
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or live chat at today. for the first time in half a century nasa is hoping to return to the moon. this 21st century version of the apollo mission is called the artemis program, and this weekend is rocket is undergoing some critical testing. cnn's rachel crane walks us through its mission to the moon and beyond. >> it's one small step for man, one giant leap for man kind.
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>> reporter: july 20th, 1969, the culmination of nearly a decade of work that would lead to a half century of technological innovations. the apollo program landed 12 men on the moon in the span of less than four years. but humans haven't been back since >> as well as the first person of color to the lunar surface. it has been a moving target, first planned for 2028, the bull's-eye is 2025. the goal is bigger than a few boots on the ground, this time, nasa wants to establish a permanent base on the moon by learning how to live and work there, the hope is that astronauts will eventually take
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that knowledge to the next frontier, mars. for the next decade or so, the focus is on the moon. here is how nasa would make it happen. astronauts will travel to the moon on the orion spacecraft. on top of the most powerful rocket nasa has a rebuilt, orion would rendezvous with gateway, a space station orbiting the moon. from there, astronauts will transfer to a reusable lunar lander, built by a commercial partner like space x. the gateway space station would allow access to more areas of the moon, it would be the home of scientific experimentation. nasa plans to continually send astronauts to the moon for years to come after the first chance, but getting there will not be easy, it is rocket science after all. >> we will not fly astronauts until it is safe. and if that means that there is a delay, we will delay. >> already, the artemis program
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has other delays, critical prelaunch tests have been hampered by propeller loading malfunctions and a helium check valve. the number one issue is safety. but all of that testing and tinkering does not come cheap. >> i want to urge you as an appropriations committee, do not short sheet space technology. we need that extra in our research and development. >> rare bipartisan support is had in congress. >> you might be surprised, but i think that we ought to be putting as many resources into what it can. >> this subcommittee wants the next pair of boots on the moon to be made in the usa. >> i am pleased that this administration is continuing that goal. >> the biden administration has proposed $7.5 billion for artemis in 2023 but sustained funding is no guarantee. >> unfortunately, across all nasa major programs, cost
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overruns have increased for the sixth consecutive year, for a major project now exceeding $4.6. >> in 2019, nasa estimated it would, nasa inspector general says that will not even be close. in estimates the entire program will cost a whopping $93 billion by 2025. whether it gets full funding or not, nasa stands firm that the lunar landing will happen. >> we are going back to the moon, but this time we are going back to learn. to stay. to develop new systems, new technologies, new techniques, on how to live a long time and that hostile environment. because when we go to mars, we are going to have to learn that. >> by 2025, artemis could
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hey? >> yeah, you are supposed to make a lot of noise, the parents and three young children from utah were hiking in british columbia when they spotted a black bear blocking the trail to the parking lot whether car was parked. they kept walking, the bear followed them for 20 minutes, the parents, reminding the kids to not run, eventually, the bear lost interest about a half- mile on and trailed off. glad everybody is okay. great scott, you will wish you had a delorean after hearing this. in near mint condition 1986 vhs tape of back to the future recently sold at auction for $75,000 setting a new record for a videotape. the vhs copy was owned by actor
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tom wilson who, yes, that is right, biff tannen, from the classic '80s film. making the offer more special, he offered to write a note to accompany the tape. the tape and the note, $75,000. thank you so much for joining me on this saturday evening. stay with us for dreamland, the burning of black wall street, next. in the 1920s, there was a strong black community in tulsa, these people were the core o


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