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legitimacy of the results. he believes that his democratic opponents are seizing on the remarks and a number have called on him to resign. here's what his spokesperson says about that. the senator has never considered resigning. why would this attack be any different? >> thank you very much. thank you for being with us. we begin tonight with a new report about the department of justice and new information about investigation of the electors plot which the january 6 committee calls multi-pronged effort of the former president and allies to overturn the election. they issued subpoenas for multiple states that appeared to be in the plot. that includes the republican chairman who played a central
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role to organize the electors in his state and coordinated the efforts with the former president's campaign. more in a moment. the revelation comes the same day that the january 6 committee delayed hearings. the reason is one of his members, raskin, had a deluge of new evidence. he would not elaborate but said the new information was what we learned yesterday and beyond. the former president and his family recorded this before and after january 6th. those recordings have been turned over to the committee. a subpoena has, over also. the testimony of the republican party member, mcdaniel. that links to the presidents reply. >> he turned the call over to mr. eastman who proceeded to talk about the importance of the rnc helping the campaign gather these contingent electors in case there are legal challenges that were
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ongoing to change the result in any state. more helping them reach out and assemble them. my understanding, the campaign did not take the lead. we were just helping them and that role. >> that was one new revelation. we also learned about other lawmakers involved in the scene and one was senator, ron johnson. he tried to explain away his role. he said this is a complete nonstory, it happened so fast, it's hard, this is 18 months ago, it just happened. let's be clear about what he said just happened. the committee, on tuesday, presented top aides from senator johnson and vice president pence.
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the time stamp says 12:37 p.m. less than 30 minutes be for the first barriers on capitol hill were breach. the exchange says as follows. to johnson needs to hand something to the vice president. and the vice president aid said what is it? and johnsons chiefs of staff said alternate slates of electors from michigan and wisconsin because they didn't receive that. and pence staffer said do not give that to him. those tax showed johnson stop the phony electors. trying to pass them to the vice president. it would indicate any reasonable person that senator johnson and his top aide were aware of the phony electric plot and trying to avert the election. not that he would just randomly pick up a envelope and try to
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get it to the vice president of the united states at any pivotal moment in history. we would be foolish to suggest that. but let's listen to the tape yesterday. >> why was he asking for that? >> somebody delivered this to our office and asked to give it to the vice president. >> did you support the efforts to get that to the vice president. >> i had no knowledge with this. i had no involvement with the slate of electors. i had no idea this would be delivered to us or the staff. my chief of staff did the right thing and contacted the vice president staff and he said he didn't want it so we didn't deliver it. >> who was the person who delivered it? >> i have no idea. >> to hear senator johnson tell it, somebody and he doesn't know who, delivered this phony slate of electors to the office
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and he said he had no knowledge of what's going on. then he said unknown staffer forwarded it to the electors office and the chief of staff said that's a great idea and pivotal moment in history and the vice president is under tremendous pressure and there is a huge rally going on, stop the steel, so-called outside, this would be the time to contact the vice president and pass along this phony slate of electors that ron johnson claimed he never saw or knows nothing about not only did johnson deny any knowledge of it but he said the chief of staff did the right thing. if you don't know how washington senators office work, you don't want to throw the chief of staff under the bus because they know where the bodies are buried. not literally, exclusively. just before this incredible
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moment in history, how likely is that? take a look at the senator's exchange with a different reporter yesterday. >> senator johnson, how much did you know what your chief of staff was doing for and alternate slate of electors. i can see your phone, i can see your train. your chief of staff still work for you? it's classic. really. can hear you. i have an important meeting. oh picture on my phone.
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you. when he's caught he gives up. he does a fake. nonexistent phone call. now federal authorities are widening their probe into the spot. that's where we are joined by senior correspondent. what can you tell us? >> these new subpoenas represent a major escalation of what is clearly a big part of the justice's department investigation. we now know these fake electors in georgia, michigan, pennsylvania, have received subpoenas. in georgia, in particular, david shafer, who is the chairman of the republican party there, played a central role to organize these electors in georgia. this is one of the states where the fbi and justice department has taken keen interest. of the local district attorneys also investigating there. one of the things we said
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tonight, the investigators are asking for communication with key people in the trump campaign. trump lawyers. people who were helping to organize this effort, that includes rudy giuliani and john eastman, who we've heard so much about in the last few days. according to the people that we talked to today, they come back to some of these people who we previously reported, they had come to before and they wanted access to some of the names on the signal chat that was going on in the days leading up on january sick. made this clear that they are zeroing in on who was organizing this from the level of people surrounding the
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former president to set up what ron johnson was trying to accomplish on that day on january 6. >> communicating the signal. anybody doesn't know, they have highly secure apps that anyone can use. >> they were having encrypted communication. we have decrypted communication. that doesn't mean you are doing anything wrong. the fbi wants access to names of people on the group chat and wants to know more about it. they want to know what was being said about that. and they've had success in other parts of the january 6 investigation getting to the communications. and other communications. >> what do they learn from david shafer. has he cooperated with the investigations into the fall's election plot in the past? >> he's a central player in three investigation. investigation being done by the january 6 committee. the one by the attorney in georgia. and now the one being done by a the f the i. because he is the top guy in georgia
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helping to coordinate all this, he would know exactly who in the trump campaign was helping to organize this. he would be a key person to understand exactly how this was being organized. remember, some of these people who initially said they were be willing to be part of this, ended up dropping out because they were uncomfortable with what was being done. >> political correspondent and former counsel to the house democrats for the first impeachment. i'm gonna get to this in a moment. first, ron johnson, he, not too long ago was chairman of the senate homeland security committee. that's extraordinary. how one goes from that to having your staffer try to pass this along to the vice president. >> the last few years, ron johnson has also been one of the biggest purveyors of misinformation and lies around the election and other things
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including covid-19. this is part of a overall picture of someone who, in the highest levels of government in the united states senate, is committed to things that are untrue. to go to stay in power taking cues of what his voters are wanting? >> this questions about how much people believe this stuff. he's up for reelection and going to face a significant challenge. there is questions about whether his voters want to take these stances. i think where he is right now at the center of this question. what was his staffer trying to do to pass this off to pence, minutes before he was trying to do the constitutional duty. it takes it to another level from spreading the lies to participating. or his staffer does. is a different place for him to be.
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how actually involved was he in trying to get these fraudulent documents to the vice president at a critical moment is that level of involvement cross the line politically or legally? that's a big question, especially for someone like johnson who is facing, a huge amount of democratic attention trying to get him out of office and bringing this to voters it's not just the lies, it was action behind it, too. it could pose a problem. >> there are private screens you can put on your phone that will make it difficult for reporters to see. >> that's a time-honored trick. >> i'm not saying i haven't done a in an airport. >> when we can see the phone it doesn't work. >> could he face trouble here or his chief of staff? >> it will depend on what more there is to the story. his assertion and another point he said some staff in turn pass
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this along. i worked up there during the impeachment. documents don't go from one unnamed staff in turn to the united states senator and the hands of the vice president and one of the most consequential and contested moment. the story doesn't make sense. you would have to show a high degree of engagement. others are in that kind of legal jeopardy that include the individuals that received subpoenas. we heard that very powerful testimony from mcdaniel, the head of the rnc, saying that donald trump, himself, was pushing these phony electoral slates. others, rusty bowers testified about trump's involvement. so donald trump has got to be feeling a little uncomfortable as this evidence continues to
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come out. >> you heard the reporting about the investigation. why doesn't january 6 committee shared the information with the department of justice? eddie thompson said they will delay their work to explain things for the doj. couldn't they just email the transcripts or senator ron johnson send it over? >> it's never easy. we call it the accommodation process. i was involved in the conversation between the branches. congress and the executive branch. always the back and forth. on the committees part, their view is they are extremely busy processing the evidence. they want to share but do it on their own pace. there's a little bit of a feeling that the doj did not charge mark meadows despite the criminal referral. they did not charge dan didn't veto. i'm confident they will work it
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out. one of the criminal trials will allow the process to work out. it somehow, works out if the same thing happens here. >> they are delaying the next round of hearings until tomorrow and then the next ones until july. this whole abundance of evidence. does that make sense to you? >> it does. this is a dynamic process. as the hearings have been going on, you have people participating and cooperating with the committee and those that are watching it and seeing the evidence unfold who are thinking about their own self interest and wondering how much do i have to contribute to stay out of any kind of legal jeopardy. it is a dynamic process. they are genuinely getting more things in as it goes along. the politics of it is playing out before our eyes. >> i appreciate you attending.
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they've learned new information for the hearings. 64% of democrats say they've learned more. the political divided georgia which narrowly went to president biden, what have they taken away so far? >> history repeats itself. we need to have the recording of history to prevent this from happening again. >> reporter: all americans, not just democrats, like himself, are paying some attention. >> i'm not a big mike pence band, i respect what he did. we need to be patriots and respect the constitution that we are sworn to defend.
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>> reporter: richards is among the millions that were tuning in this month to the hearings. this is highlighting donald trump's attempt to overturn the 2020 election. despite the details that trump and his allies tried to cling to power. >> mr. trump was told by his own advisors that he had no basis to cling to the election claims. yet he continued. >> reporter: many in the republican leaning sub were suburbs of atlanta have some disdain. >> i choose not to watch it. >> is there anything that would change your mind about things? >> all i know is i'm not gonna watch the rest of it. there are other things to do with my time. >> reporter: a half century after the watergate hearings captivated the country led to president nixon's resignation, the findings of the house select committee are seen through the same part of the lens that divides the exhausted nation. there is a nuance. we found that there richard
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voted for trump the first time but not this election. >> a lot of people need to be held accountable. >> reporter: does trump need to be held accountable? >> if we can get the information out, yes. >> reporter: she prayed for people to watch with an open mind. >> i pray that they tune in and watch it so they can see for themselves. you don't go by what someone says, you should investigate in search it out and hear for yourself and get a better understanding for yourself so you can make an informed decision. >> reporter: this shines a brighter light on trump's meddling in georgia. >> i want to find 11,780 votes. >> reporter: voters in both parties say it cross the line. i need so many votes. >> this is ridiculous. that's not right. that's like gangster. >> reporter: harvey and
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patricia newman, both democrats, have watched every moment of the preceding. >> this is an attack on democracy. i do not think the water great watergate hearings rose to that level. even close. >> reporter: finding the truth for history is important, they say. but even more for future elections. >> i can't tell you how afraid i am for 2024. for those that are watching, has anything surprise them? >> reporter: the breadth and depth of the investigation surprised voters that they talk to. committee started with the attack on january 6 with the police testimony and images but it's gone deeper than that. the scheme of fake electors. also it's surprised republicans the that so much was in front of the trump white house.
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they warned the president that he could not win. and georgia is an outlier. they do not believe the election lie that he won the state of georgia. voters have artie asked and answered some of the questions. brian camp, he won his primary by a huge margin as did roethlisberger. but overall, republicans don't want to admit they are watching. but when you talk to them longer, they are alerted to information seeping through. what was learned about this with the doj investigation as well as the hearing. too early to say that nothing will come of this in the court of public opinion. >> one of the most compelling witnesses was shaye moss. she was a worker during the election. she became the center of conspiracy see her theory and a
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direct and racist attack by president trump and her testimony yesterday illustrated how anybody, regular people doing their job, can become victims of election lies. this one did. more to come. >> reporter: this is shaye moss last month receiving the profile in courage award . >> a case of the nerves. my fellow honorees, i'm not used to giving speeches and being in the spotlight. what i'm used to is quietly doing my job. >> reporter: that's exactly why she was being honored for quietly doing her job as an election worker in georgia. she had of voter applications, absentee ballot requests and helped process votes.
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it's a job she started in 2017 and held until after the presidential election in 2020. >> it all happened overnight. ever since december 2020. my family has been under attack. attacked because people have spread terrible lies. lies about me and my mother. simply because we were doing our job. >> reporter: in december 2020, the trump campaign posed the video and falsely claimed that the edited clip holding fraudulent ballots from a suitcase in order to help joe biden win georgia. and the claim was immediately debunked by election officials in georgia that this happened and the damage was done. these lives were upended. that's how shaye moss found
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herself testifying in front of the house select committee, yesterday >> people are lying and spreading rumors and lies and attacking my mom. i'm an only child, going to my grandmother's house. i'm an only grandchild. and my kids. i felt so bad. >> reporter: with her mother sitting behind her, shaye moss told the committee about the harassment she faced after the release of the video >> threats wishing death on me. telling me that i will be in jail with my mother. saying things like be glad is 2020 and not 1920. >> reporter: ruby freeman who had the nickname, lady ruby, gave this disposition. >> there is nowhere i feel safe. nowhere. do you know how it feels to
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have the president of the united states hunting you? >> reporter: because of their threats, they have left their jobs as election workers. she used this ugly episode as an opportunity to highlight the job she used to love. >> i want to give a thank you for all the anonymous election workers out there. the ones doing the heavy lifting that the democracy depends on, far from the spotlight. up next, things on the uvalde officials. we have new details on the uvalde police chief who was named as the commander responsible for the delay. the said that safety bill is the scene opposition from
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breaking news tonight. uvalde school district police chief, pedro arredondo, has been placed on leave. 19 children were murdered with two teachers. they placed arredondo on leave due to lack of clarity and
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unknown details with the investigation. the gop members were voting against the gun safety bill. and this gives money to the closure program. that closes a loophole. it registers fire and dealers and encourages more thorough use of people that want to buy guns. and it increases funding for mental health programs and security. the senate is on track to pass it. it's expected to pass in the house once it passes in the senate. joining us, amy klobuchar. your colleagues said this bill is not windowdressing. do you agree with that assessment and how much progress is there >> yes i do.
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the first important point is this bill will save thousands of lives. this is in everything i would've wanted to do. i think chris would say the same thing. we had republicans that were willing to come to the negotiating table. i would've band assault weapons at least for 18 and b,21. what did they do? they actually did something that will save lives. number one, you can now look at the records of these b,18-b,21 and take the time to talk to police officers in the area and find out what's going on. that wasn't happening before. number two. the boyfriend loophole. 600 women a year ago and down in domestic violence cases. half have dating relationships. they are not married to the person. that is a loophole in the law they get convicted of domestic
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abuse and they can get a gun. that has changed. so many criminals go out there and get guns on behalf of someone else that and from getting a gun. read lag law funding. mental health funding. i thank my colleagues that worked on this. particularly, senator him murphy and the telus and the so many others. we have strong support for this bill in the senate. people are willing to stand up to say we are finally doing something on gun safety. it's a beginning. i think it's sad that the house republicans are going out against it. hopefully they will pick up some votes with republicans in the senate. >> obviously you wanted this to go farther in terms of gun safety and gun control. what you say to those that say this doesn't go far enough and it may make it harder to get further changes in the future? >> we have worked on this for decades.
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after parkland, i sat across from donald trump in the white house and along with others senators, he said he was going to do something from background check. i have the a piece of paper after the remarks he made that day and nothing happened. after sandy hook, nothing happened. when you talk to families that have been working on this for so long, they understand how difficult and disappointing this has been. to start with something that will save lives. even if a particular provision would not have saved their own babies life, that's what we hear from loved ones. i think it paves the way in the future to look at other provisions. if you do nothing and just go
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home, we got nothing. that's why it's so important to pass this law on a bipartisan basis. >> republican leaders spoke at a luncheon today. the nra got what they wanted from this process. it does not apply retroactive of late. it only applies to recent relationships. to 10 years sunset provision to ensure enhanced background checks for juvenile records that can be repealed in a decade. >> is someone that has tried to pass this for over 10 years, i would have looked back at all past convictions. what does this do? 19 states have closed the loophole. after this bill happened, in those other states, if someone is convicted of domestic violence in any of these other states, it bans them from going out and getting a gun. even if the dating partner has been involved in this. that is a big change. that's a game changer. when i told you have to the
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homicides related to domestic violence or boyfriends, the final thing to close the loophole. 13% reduction in domestic homicides. those are real numbers. to me, and not everything i wanted. i worked really hard to make this as strong as possible. finally close the loophole that the nra has oppose year after year after year. issuing statements, testifying against it. doing all kinds of things. we have finally gotten it done. joining us now is hockley. she had one of the first gators graders killed in the sandy hook shooting. you were involved in this. when you and i spoke about this in the wake of the uvalde killings. you were optimistic. what you think about the end result? >> i'm optimistic. we're going for a vote tomorrow
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. i think this will pass. i want to be thankful to senators that have led this, it has not been an easy task. i appreciate the conversations and compromises and actions they've had to take. >> compromises on both sides. >> no one is winning here except for people. it will save lives as senator klobuchar said. >> interesting to see the texas republican party getting food through out his speech. it's a sign of extremes on both sides. politicians have to listen to their constituents. >> you have to listen to all the constituents and that requires listening to the noise of extremes on both and. but what the senators have done is stand up for the rest of us. they want to see something happening care about creating a future and care about keeping
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kids safe and create something that helps deliver the change. >> what is the most, it's a stupid question saying what's the most. i'm talking this senator murphy about the totality of these. >> the fact that it's a multi- pronged package that has so many elements. is not just mental health and school safety and gun safety. saying this is a problem that comes from all of those areas and their solutions in all of those areas. they are bold enough to say they will create solutions in each of those. that's huge. >> is more possible? >> more is always possible. this is a step forward. is going to be interesting to politicians that are afraid to touch this issue to realize they can vote yes on this and do something right and maintain their political careers.
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that will set the positive message. we can look at other causes and gun violence areas. these are not perfect solutions. there are more steps to take and there will always be that compromise that will be required . the former governor of missouri is running for the senate. he has a new campaign promoting political violence.
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the u.s. senate candidate is under controversy for his campaign video that he said he intends to hunt republicans that don't subscribe to his agenda. >> today we are going rhino hunting. they have corruption and are cowards. >> this is far from the first time that they have negative headlines. he's the disgraced former governor of his state and he's trying to do a political come back. >> reporter: the former governor is no stranger to controversy with a long line of
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scandals surrounding him. >> i will resign as governor of missouri. >> reporter: in 2018 he resigned from office in disgrace. after allegations from his former hairdresser that he tied her up" tour into oral and threatened to black mail her with partially nude photos to cover up an affair in 2015. >> never going to mention my name. >> reporter: the governor admitted to the affair, calling it a deeply personal mistake but denied the blackmail accusation. he calls for impeachment from the gop state legislature and criminal charges. criminal charges have been dropped and fbi investigation
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was later indicted for lying about his interview with the accuser. >> great victory and a long time coming. >> reporter: in addition, that same year he was separately charged with tampering with computer data. misusing charity donor list to raise funds for his gubernatorial campaign. he also denied this and the charges were dismissed. they found no evidence of wrongdoing. but they agreed to pay $107,000 in fees to the commission. he and his wife are divorced. the legal woes continue. his wife claims abuse. saying he struck her and her
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children. leaving one son with a swollen face. brighton has denied these accusations. he is a rising star within the republican party. a former navy seal and purple heart recipient. he is taking his political future on winning missouri's open senate race. some republicans say that his nomination could put the red seat in jeopardy. they are pulling out all the stops and endorsement from former president trump. he is aligning himself with the presidents false claims that the election was stolen. >> do you agree with the fact the election was stolen? >> yes. >> the president has made an endorsement with the larry very large field of republican
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candidates. president trump won this state by 15 percentage points in 2020. and another effort from a super pack led by this they are looking to funnel millions and millions of dollars into potentially putting forward an independent candidate in this race. you might remember this video from russia's war around ukraine. a story of what has happened to her is next. but, at upwork, we found him. he's in adelaide between his daily lunch delivery and an 8:15 call with san franciscoco. and you can find him, and millionsns of other talented pros, rightht now on
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one of the many memorable images from early in the war in ukraine was this image of an elderly woman standing up to russian police. she was detained for speaking out. cnn international correspondent
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fred pleitgen went to st. petersburg, russia, to speak with her after she was released. >> reporter: she might seem a bit frail, but her will is strong and her creativity seems unstoppable. the 76-year-old artist has been detained for several anti-war protests since russia began what it called its special military operation in ukraine. but when we visited her in her apartment in st. petersburg, she showed no signs of feeling intimidated. instead, complaining that police had taken her posters. they took some away and haven't given them back, although they promised to give them back to me, she says. this has been going on for some time. so, she keeps painting more posters, like this one, a bird symbolizing russia with the writing, russia is mourning, and russia is not putin. it's a repentant bird, she says,
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a bird in mourning. and there are many such people in mourning here. jelena yos poe voir dire speaks out about topics. ukraine and international investigators have launched investigations into possible war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide. moscow continues to reject its forces were responsible. the very large poster shows dead people with huge, piercing open eyes. and the text says, the eyes of the dead will remain open until russia repents. for me, what was important in this poster is this word, repentance, she says. it was important to me to emphasize it. while some russians took to the streets to protest vladimir putin's special military operation during its early days, authorities have now effectively
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stopped any larger movement from taking hold, dismantling opposition groups and banning many media organizations not in line with the kremlin's policies. she says she understands people's fears. they are afraid of losing their jobs, she says, being expelled from college. and there have been such incidents, even if they show a photo on the internet showing someone holding a ukrainian flag. that is already grounds for sacking. but she isn't scared, she says. if the authorities keep taking her protest art, she'll paint more. even a battalion of riot police won't silence her creative mind. and anderson, as you can imagine, at 76 years of age, all of this is pretty tough and taxing on jelena. but she says she's going to continue to go out there and voice her dissent. she says she's not only thinking of new posters she might make but also thinking of repainting
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some of the ones that have been taken away by the authorities to display them again. anderson? >> 76 years old, still fighting. ahead, the justice department is expanding its investigation into the former president's fake electorate scheme. it's showing a new round of new subpoenas, and this comes after the january 6 hearings revealed new details linking the former president directly to the scheme. more on the developments next. because with miro, they could problem solve together, and find the answer that was right under their nose. or... his nose.
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