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thank you so much for sticking with me. i'll be back here 9:00 monday night. don lemon tonight starts right now. >> sara snider, thank you so much. this is "don lemon tonight" as the lady said. you are looking at protests
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right now across the country. at least 70 planned, from coast to coast. thousands of americans, taking to the streets in the wake of the supreme court overturning roe v. wade after almost half a century. three conservatives appointed to the court by then-president donald trump, who promised to nominate justices to overturn roe, and now, a fundamental right -- the right to abortion -- is taken away. and that has been upheld by generations of justices appointed by both republicans and democrats. a right, millions of americans had yesterday, and don't have today. we are going to continue to follow these protests all across the country this evening, so make sure you stay tuned in the coming hours here on cnn. look at this map. 13 states already have trigger laws that would pan ban apportion. at least six wept into effect as soon as the supreme court struck down roe. the rest, in a matter of days or weeks and at least one justice would like this to go further. justice clarence thomas writing
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quote in future cases, we should consider all this court substantive due process precedence, including griswold, lawrence, and obergefell. that means a court -- a court that says there is no right to abortion could also take away more rights, like the right to birth control, the right to same-sex relationships, the right of gay couples to get married. tonight, i am going to talk to the plaintiff in the land mark case that legalized gay marriage that is coming up later in this program. but listen to what the justices who voted to overturn roe said during their confirmation hearings. watch this. >> i do not have a position to share whether or not that was properly decided. >> the legitimacy of the court would be undermined if the court made a decision based on public opinion. it should make its decisions based on the constitution and the law. >> that is the law of the land. i accept the law of the land, senator, yes. >> as a judge, it is an important precedent of the supreme court. by it, i mean roe v. wade and planned parenthood versus casey,
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and reaffirmed many times. >> that is a case that's litigated. it could -- you know, its contours could come up again. in fact, do come up. >> with so that being said, no surprise confidence in the supreme court is at an all-time low. just 25% of americans have a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in the highest court in this land. the court, now more and more out of step with the majority of americans, and how we live our lives every single day. just adding fuel to the fire of our political chaos. and it couldn't come at a worse time, as we reckon stunning revelations from the january-6th hearings, ask learn just how close we came to losing our democracy. criminal investigations heating up. much, much more to come on all of that tonight. thousands of people still out in the streets all across
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this country tonight, protesting the supreme court overturning roe v. wade. cnn's donie o'sullivan in washington for us. camila bernal. rosa flores is in houston. donie, i am going to start with you. what are you seeing? >> reporter: hey, don, yeah, we are out marching demonstrators just on a loop around the city. they passed the supreme court a little earlier tonight went washington, d.c., walked through some streets where there were folks having friday-evening dinner at restaurants. and now they're heading back to the supreme court. there have been hundreds -- thousands of demonstrators out on the street here all day. we were at the supreme court this morning when there was both pro and anti-abortion rights people there. some celebrations on the part of the anti-abortion side. um, but that has pretty much given way to just demonstrations this evening. spoke to a lot of people. some people here who have been activists on the issue for decades, um, and others who are tourists who are visiting washington who have come from states -- some states, like
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missouri, which have those trigger laws. and they have, on their vacation, came to the court this morning as soon as that opinion dropped. don? >> all right. donie, stand by. let's get to camila bernal now. camila, you are in los angeles. what is happening there? >> hey, don, so we are currently in the middle of the highway. this is the 110 high and this is where the highways split. so, this protest has actually stopped traffic. right in the center of downtown los angeles. they have been protesting for about an hour or so. and it is a large group, of course, you know that l.a. traffic is already bad enough. and so, this is kind of making it a lot worse and sending out this message, that this crowd is supporting abortion rights. and especially, here in the state of california, a lot of these people here say they are thankful to live in the state of california because this is a state that protects a woman's
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right to an abortion. but they ever they are protesting and saying they are concerned about women in other states. they want more to be done outside of california. and they say they are not going to give up. that their work here is ongoing. i also spoke to someone who is on the other side of this issue, who is celebrating this decision but who told me, look, now in california, we have even more work to do because they don't want women from other states coming to california to get an abortion. they call it an abortion vacation and they say they don't want their tax dollars to go towards that. so you have, of course, both sides of the issue. the people here, supporting a woman's right to an abortion stopping traffic. and of course, you see the signs, they are chanting.
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they are doing anything they can to call attention to this protest, don. and as i mentioned, we are in the middle of downtown l.a., and we are stopping traffic because these people want to send this message. don. >> all right. camila, thanks for that. donie in d.c. camila in los angeles. now, i want to head to houston where rosa flores is. texas already bans most abortions at six weeks. what is the mood like where you are tonight? >> you know, down here, there's been a lot of pain. a lot of somber stories that have been shared by speakers. all of the protestors here are for abortion rights. and there's been many speakers -- many women -- who have spoken and have said that they have either been raped or they have been abused or they have been in abusive relationships. and an abortion has saved their lives. there is -- there was another woman who shared her story who said she was a cancer survivor -- that having an abortion saved her life. and then, there is also a lot of
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anger. , a lot of rage. a lot of women saying that it is time for women in this country to stand up and do something about this. i talked to several women who said they woke up this morning crying. they spoke with their friends. they spoke with their parents about the emotions that they were feeling because of just how monumental this decision has been. and it will be for so many women in this country. don, beto o'rourke was here for more than an hour. he is the democratic candidate for governor here in the state of texas. he said that he was here to listen. he was not here to speak. he stood by a lot of the women that were telling their stories hee. he did not make any comments. but he was here and he listened. and many of the chants here in houston have been about governor abbott with expletives about
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governor abbott, saying that -- like you mentioned -- just last year, the state of texas passed a law that practically banned abortions. it banned abortion at the six-week mark, before many women even know that they're pregnant. and so, a lot of emotions here today, don. a lot of pain. a lot of rage. a lot of anger. a lot of women saying that, in the land of freedom, in the land of the free, women still have to fight for women's rights. don. >> rosa flores, thank you very much. heated protests across the country. again, most people in this country in support of abortion rights but there are some who are celebrating tonight. we are to get to all that but i want to bring in now cnn legal analyst, laura coates. as we watch these protests all across the country tonight, um, abortion now illegal in six states. more to come, obviously. what are the implications of overturning what was a constitutional right for women for 50 years? >> well you know, this morning,
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i woke up with certain rights and by the time i go to bed tonight, i will have less rights than my mother did, than my grandmother did, and my great grandmother did and the idea the supreme court of the united states, normally when -- when they are trying to change a particular right or change the guardrails around it, they are expanding it. now, they are taking it away. and this is precedent that has opinion around for nearly half-a-century. people have relied upon it. it has been base on a notion of a fundamental right and right to privacy. the idea of being able to have agency over un's body, over the fetal viability line. ask now, the supreme court justice alito in the majority said that right should never have existed. it never should have been extended because that notion of abortion or a right to it was not part of a deeply-rooted part of our nation's history. and under that same philosophy, don, which is just pointed out, a number of other things could be put under the same umbrella, including same-sex marriage,
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including contraception even in marriage, including same-sex relations. they all are premised on a similar right. the supreme court wants to sort of wall all those off and say no, no, err just talking about abortion ask that is just not how it will interpreted i believe by future local and state legislatures. >> you know, it is clear, um, is it clear how complicated this next phase could look like legally? the battle among states, the legal ramifications to women, doctors, no exceptions in some cases for rape, incest, or even the health of the mother? >> it is a legal nightmare, particularly for how you are going to enforce it. it is one thing to say you are going to outlaw abortion. but how are you going to criminalize it? in the sense of how will you prove there has been an illegal abortion without trampling on other privacy-related rights? doctor-patient privilege. the idea of if the womb, so to
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speak, is the scene of the crime, how will you be able to prove it without being invasive of other rights? will you subpoena menstruation cycle records? fertility apps of some kind? would you be interviewing patients to try to get to doctors or receptionist or somebody? if it is an interstate issue, there is a lot of interstate conflict, as well. ask then, in terms of congress, don, i mean, the president was right. he is limited in what he can do in terms of the executive orders but congress is limited until they have enough buy-in from republicans and democrats to try and overcome the filibuster or amend it to make an exception for abortion to have codification of roe v. wade and we have already seen it's possible to raise the debt ceiling and have that. it is possible to do so talking about supreme-court justices. will they make it possible for roe v. wade is the million-dollar question. >> laura coates. laura, thank you very much. i appreciate that. i want to bring in now, new mexico governor michelle grisham. her state last year overturned a
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zombie law, a decades-old abortion ban. now, people from other states are coming to new mexico to get abortions. governor, welcome. thanks for joining us. >> thank you, don. nice to be on the show. >> so for the first time in 50 years, daughters, granddaughters are going to have fewer rights in the united states than the generation before them, as laura coates just pointed out in -- in our conversation before. is that sinking in tonight? do you think people understand the magnitude of this change? >> i do. uh, and certainly, as you were highlighting the many protests going on around the country, there was a rally that i just attended in albuquerque, new mexico, with hundreds, thousands of women and their families and partners and they are bringing their children.
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and it is not lost on them that these decisions are including now expanding access and protections for gun owners. you have got citizens united that it's -- protects free -- freedom of speech through monetary giving to corporation. so, we are going in the opposite direction in terms of protecting equal rights for women. >> uh-huh. >> in every aspect. and not having the same rights as my mother and my grandmother is so chilling, it's hard to say out loud but i think this is more than just a debate for today. i think you are going to see women and their families motivated. and we're motivated not just for ourselves, but for the next generation of women who are depending on us to get this right. >> i wonder why -- i have been wondering about that and asking, you know, you know, when i have guests like you on. um, if -- if it's going to be a motivating factor. perhaps, it could be a suppressing factor or maybe not at all. maybe people will just stay home because you -- who knows?
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but do you really think it's going to motivate people to go to the polls or to become politically involved? >> i am going -- i am going to treat it as such. you bet. this is a state that has long fought for equal rights. >> let me ask you this way, governor, not to interrupt. let me ask it this way. do you think this will backfire for republicans? >> i think it will ask it deserves to. and it deserves to. this is not how you build a democracy. this is how you rip it apart. and for many women and their families, to have equal protections under the law and basically having justice thomas declare that everything now is -- can be revisited. that there are no precedents that you can rely on, i think is a message to voters that this is not just a single issue anymore. not even a moral debate. democracy, in fact, by virtue of the politicization of this and related issues is now a call to action to save the democracy. ask you think the insurrection would be enough but i i think
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this is the tipping point today. >> it's interesting because you said new mexico has already seen an influx of people seeking abortions from other states. are you expecting a bigger influx now? >> we are. we are seeing it. we already have folks from texas coming to new mexico. volunteers and quite frankly religious organizations who are supporting that, you know, the religious coalition for reproductive justice coordinating those efforts because this is a state that believes in protecting all women. but it is also an access issue. as you have nearly with all of the potential bans, current ban, all the sort of tipping laws in the mix, you'd have half the country looking for access to
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abortion. that is a unique position for every state. i think every democratic governor is standing up all their provider and access issues. err readying, if you will. but that is also, i think, sort of part of this dilemma. can we all assure call access in fewer than half the states? and the answer is, not unless he with do something about roe v. wade and get it codified across the country. that is the only way. >> governor, we really appreciate you joining us this evening. thank you so much. appreciate your perspective and your time. >> thanks for having me today. >> absolutely. so republicans have gotten what they wanted. what they have wanted really for decades -- for decades, a conservative-majority court that would overturn roe v. wade but are they ready for the political consequences of taking away a right americans have had for nearly 50 years? >> this fall, roe is on the ballot. personal freedoms are on the ballot. the right to privacy, liberty, equality, they are all on a ballot. ♪
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so overturning rowe v. aide has been a major goal of the republican party for decades and a winning strategy really for gop candidates and today's landmark decision, that goal is now accomplished. but it comes real consequences as i mentioned earlier, at least 13 states have so-called trigger laws, anti-abortion laws that take effect today or in the days to follow. i want to discuss now with cnn political commentators, alice stewart and ashley allison.
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good evening to both of you. thanks for joining. alice, republicans have wouldn't wanted this for years and today the day came but do you think they are prepared for the political ramifications of finally getting what you want when it's something that the majority of the country does not want? >> well, pro-life republicans have been fighting this ever since roe was first enacted nearly 50 years ago and yes, they have bee gun -- as soon as this was announced today, they left the steps of the state capitol, in part because they were being threatened by the pro-choice advocates but they left and immediately began the next step, which is working to elect and enact legislation on the state level that further solidifies the pro -- pro-life issue and they are working to put officials at the state level that will continue the work that has been done with regard to protecting the sanctity of life. look. pro-life advocates understand this the right decision by the
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courts. justice alito said roe was wrong ask egregious from the very start and it is time to put this back in the hands of elected representatives and that is exactly happened here. this took the important policy issue of abortion out of the hands of un-elected justices does put it in the hands of elected officials, and a decision like this and choices like this are best served for the people, by people that are closest to the people. >> ashley, i want you to respond to what alice said. >> well, justice alito, fish of first of all lied. all the justices that helped overturn this 50-year precedent in their confirmation hearings lied. so they were not honest and truthful. second, we know -- today, i was on calls all day with voters, activists, organizers. a lot were upset. a lot were sad and felt gutted because this is a very sad day in our country. but the other thing that i
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definitely heard was determination. so, while those lawmakers today may be doing all they can to codify and make sure that abortion is illegal. voters are mobilizing, and i am confident they will lose their seat. not just in congress. not just in the senate. but in governors' races, state legislature races, city council races. this country does not want to go back to a time when women do not have bodily autonomy, and choices over their body. it is a matter of privacy. it is a matter -- it was a matter of law. and they gutted it. and i think they will pay severe consequences. sure, the pro-life movement can think it's the right decision. but the pro-life movement is not a part of the majority of americans and what we want and in -- in november, they will have to pay for their consequences.
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>> that gets to the heart of the question that i -- i asked you early, alice. you know, just before this because there is a new cnn poll -- not a new poll but a cnn poll -- it's from may and it shows that 66% of americans do not want roe v. wade overturned. you heard what ashley just said. the former president, as well, is calling, you know, this the biggest win for -- for life in a generation. but maggie haberman of the new york york times is reporting trump reportedly said it would anger suburban women. there are many independents ask even republicans who don't support this decision. so, again, same question but a different -- i am posing it a different way. do you think republicans are going to pay a price for that? >> well, look, if he truly felt that way, he would not have opinion so vocal and so adamant about appointing the justices that he appointed to the supreme court, that -- the -- the goal and the hope was for this day that we had today. for them to overturn roe v. wade.
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>> but to the heart of -- i understand what you said -- do you think it is going to anger republican women? because there are republican women who support the right to choose. there are independent -- lots of independent women not just women but people all across the country, do you think republicans are going to pay the price come november of 2022 and november of 2024? >> i truly don't, don, because republicans have been fighting for this day for decades. and look. this is going to mobilize -- >> i'm sorry, i meant suburban women, i meant republican. go on. >> ashley is right. the pro-choice community is pissed, they are hurt. they are going to galvanize and organize and they are going to turn out the vote. but the same time, republicans will do the same thing. pro -- pro-life conservatives will do so. and the latest cnn poll that we have also had with regard to the -- the motivation and the enthusiasm for registered voters, republicans have a three-point greater enthusiasm for voters than democrats. so, that also is going to turn out republican voters.
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look. this is something that has been unifying conservatives for years and he have had an eye not just on the pro-life issues, but on appointing justices on the state and federal and the u.s. supreme court. this has been a big issue for republicans. i have worked on every presidential campaign i have worked on, we have talked about this. democrats have not. they -- they did not -- >> well, that's what -- >> they did not acknowledge ask didn't notice the and importance of this. >> let me get to alice -- to ashley because i want to ask you that question. listen. there are many people who support the right to choose. who are angry at democrats. and say that democrats have been asleep at the wheel when it comes to the second amendment, when it comes to roe v. wade and the for -- when it comes to the right to vote, as well. why are democrats, who are the majority -- or in the majority
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in the house and the senate and the white house and -- ask even in the country, democrats and independents, why is this happening? is there -- do you think democrats are own party is to blame for this? or bear some responsibility for this? >> look, i think we have to do a better job with engaging voters not just in unwith election cycle but in every single cycle. he keep saying this is an issue and plan that has been a part of the republican strategy for 20 years so when i think about that, i think about 2004 when george w. bush ran on partial birth abortions. now, he never did anything actually in his term on policy about it but you know what he did do? in 2005, he got justice roberts and 2006, he got justice alito. and they were the ones for years plotting for this moment right now. >> hang on, ashley. that's my point, though. you are talking about what republicans did but what did democrats do or not do? >> we have to remain consistent. and we do have the majority but we also know that the rules of the senate, even though we have
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a majority, the filibuster blocks it. so we need to abolish the filibuster, and move this bill to codify -- >> but the filibuster's there when republicans are in charge, as well. >> and they will change the laws, too. that is the thing is that republican justices lie when they get confirmed, and they will change the law when they have power. and i do think democrats need to act and do whatever they can to pass gun reform. i am glad to see the bill last night. whatever they need to do to pass and codify roe. we, people, are outraged and one thing i will just say is this is not just about a woman's right to choose. it is very clear, and people should take note, they are coming for everyone. if you are not a white, conservative male, they want to take your rights away. this time, it's abortion. next time, it will be marriage equality. the next time, they have already done voting rights. every right we have fought so hard for is at stake right now and they have wrote the playbook in their concurring opinion and in their opinion today.
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so voters need to take note. it has to be a continuous engagement and we need to elect people who will be bold and who will remove the laws that prevent us to move this country forward where the majority of the people want it to actually be. >> you know what? i have got to -- i have got to run, alice. but -- >> don, it's important to point out that that's not factually accurate. justice alito said this ruling pertains only to abortion, not any of the other privacy, constitutionally protective portions of -- read the concurring opinion. >> did you read the concurring opinion from -- from justice clarence thomas? >> thomas. i certainly did. >> and those -- and those who supported what happened today have been saying or had said all along, there is no way they are going to go for same-sex marriage. there is no way they're going to do this or that. and clarence thomas is saying exactly that -- exactly what people who support the right to choose have been saying. if we give up this right, they are going to go for the other thing and clarence thomas seems to be saying that. not seems to be saying that, he is saying that. >> he is saying it. >> and alito said this is not
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the case. >> this is not alito's court anymore, you know that, alice. whose court is it? alito's? or thomas? >> the point he was the lead voice on this and said other privacy-protected rights do not affect the life of a human being. an abortion does and that is why this is separate. it is not -- not in the same constitutionally-protected area as abortion is. >> he have to remember this is -- >> don, i just got got to say we can't take their word. they lied in their confirmation hearing and will lie in these opinions they write. everyone's rights are at stake. he need to wake up and vote not just in '22, '24, and more elections to come. >> thank you all. look, this is an abortion case right now. we will see what is to come and i do have to say coming up at 11:00 later on, we the person who actually helped to get same sex marriage right by suing the gump or what have you or challenging the government will be on this program. thank you, ashley. thank you alice. new york attorney general says the state will be a safe haven for anyone wanting an abortion. she speaks out from a protest, right after this.
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so we are talking about the supreme court overturning roe v. wade today. just a day after another law was struck down, the new york law focused on concealed carry permits. the new york attorney general, letitia james, calling today,
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quote, one of the darkest moments in the history of this nation. she joined me earlier from a rally in new york city's washington square park for people supporting apportion rights. here it is. >> attorney general james, thanks so much for join us. what is your reaction to this decision from the supreme court today? >> i am disappointed and i am disgusted, which is why i am here in washington square park with thousands of individuals. individuals who are outraged ask ready to take action. individuals who are excited about voting. individuals who are excited about the fact that new york state will still -- has the right to free and a safe apportion in this state and welcome individuals from other states, particularly republican states, who unfortunately right now, as a result of trigger laws, um, will criminalize even in the case of rape and incest but new york -- new york state is ready for the influx of individuals coming here for a safe abortion. >> considering your answer, you said something similar earlier. you said that new york state will always be a safe haven for anyone seeking an abortion.
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how will your office protect this right? >> so, in -- in anticipation of this decision, when it was a leaked decision, he organized 20 major law firms in new york state in addition to that, we organized advocates and we have organized medical professionals. and so, we will not bow, we will not break. we are ready to stand up and fight back and the best way to fight back now is, unwith, to organize and, two, to vote. it is really critically important that individuals understand this was a political decision and the ohm way to respond to a political decision is with a political response. and the best response is to vote. vote out individuals who do not believe in a woman's right to choose. vote for individuals who believe that the equal rights amendment should apply to women. vote for individuals and elected officials who recognize that he have a country which is at war with itself. and women who have depended upon 50 years of precedent -- 50 years of precedent, we have
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relied upon, it is really, critically important that individuals understand when you go out to vote, this is a harmful, harmful decision which will jeopardize the lives of primarily poor and women of color all throughout this country. >> this ruling coming after the supreme court yesterday struck down a new york law that limits carrying a concealed handgun outside the home. what are you and other new york officials and lawmakers going to do in response to that? >> in the last 48 hours, the united states supreme court has upended the lives of americans and new yorkers ask again represents a threat. and what err doing, the governor of the state of new york has called a special session ask in the days to come, what we will do is pass legislation, which will pass constitutional muster that will protect the rights of new yorkers and keep them away from harm. >> do you believe the state will be able to pass laws to safely regulate guns, attorney general? >> yes, i -- we've already had discussions with the governor's office, as well as with leaders
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of the state legislature. and we believe that we will pass laws that will protect individuals at a time when the united states supreme court and others, unfortunately, are following the lead of the gun lobby. it's really critically important that individuals understand that the second amendment is not absolute and that we are going to pass reasonable restrictions on the right to carry guns in new york state. and that this is not open season on the right to carry guns in our city and in our state. as the chief law enforcement officer of new york state i promise that i will keep new yorkers safe, and i will defend the constitution and i will defend a woman's right to choose. each and every day. we are ready. we will not bow, we will not break. we will stand up and fight back. >> congress has -- did pass the first major federal gun safety legislation in decades. it includes $750 million for
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crisis intervention programs, closes the boyfriend loop heel which deals with whether unmarried partners can have guns and requires more gun sellers to register as federally arm dealers, which would require background checks. will this make new yorkers safer in. >> so it's a step in the right direction. it's a bipartisan compromise, but it's a step in the right direction. and i am confident with the work of congress and work we're doing here in new york, we'll continue to keep new yorkers safe. again, it is not open season here in the state of new york to carry guns on the street of new york city. and i stand with law offices all across the state of new york to let individuals know if individuals carry guns they will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. we will designate spaces that are safe. >> attorney general james, thank you so much for your time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. i appreciate you.
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new tonight on cnn the leader of the stop the steal group testifying before a federal grand jury. let's get right to cnn's evan perez who has more. evan, good evening to you. what do we know about his testimony? >> don, we know he was in there for four hours, and really he's the highest profile person involved in these efforts -- in these rallies around january 6th that has made an appearance before this criminal grand jury. and what it tells us is that this investigation that the justice department has going, a sprawling investigation is
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intensifying. and in his case he acknowledged he was there. our cameras caught him going in, by the way. but he afterwards said that he told the grand jury that he committed no crimes and that he witnessed no one committing any crimes during the election or on january 6th. look, what this tells us is he is an important guy because he was in touch with so many people including people on the campaign and people, you know, in trump's family in those days, those key days around january 6th. >> there's more news in the investigations related to election conspiracy. what do you know, evan? >> well, we know there were some witnesses -- at least four witnesses that were brought before the -- in the fulton -- in the investigation down in atlanta run by the fulton county district attorney, and they were being asked about rudy giuliani and the fact that in december 2020 he appeared before a state committee there, don.
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and the question that is being asked at least by the district attorney is whether rudy giuliani in his efforts to overturn the georgia election results, whether he committed any crimes. that could be making false statements as part of his effort to throw out the election results in georgia, whether there was an effort to solicitation of election fraud. those are the questions being asked. and again, there are about four witnesses that we know of that have appeared there as part of that investigation. and, you know, we don't know where this is going, but clearly rudy giuliani's efforts there in georgia are being -- being scrutinized by the d.a. in georgia. it comes, of course, don, as the justice department's investigation into those very efforts are also intensifying. >> evan perez in washington. thank you very much. lots of new revelations about the then-president and his allies attempts to overturn the election, but does any of it amount to criminal behavior? we're going to talk about that next.
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the leader of the stop the steal group testifying to a federal grand jury today, plus, trump doj officials detailing the former president's pressure campaign to overturn the 2020 election. former u.s. attorney harry litman is here to break it down for us. good evening. good to see you again. the stop the steal alley alexander testifying to a grand jury today. what does that tell you about the doj investigation into january 6th, if anything. >> it does, things are getting wider and wider away from the actual june 6th and more toward the activity where he was involved and a player with the shadow group. roger stone, mike flynn who may
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potentially serve as a bridge to the people in the white house. >> this week from the january 6th committee, we heard from the top justice department officials all conservative republicans, all appointed by trump. was yesterday's hearing a personal indictment of the former president and how important was it in the case that the committee is making to the american people. >> well, for my money it was the most important because it showed the nearest scrape, closest we've come to an actual coup because it wouldn't have taken much if he had been able to work his will on his studge he wanted to install. it could have rolled the dominos in different states and resulted in january 6th with trump being reelected that would have meant the end of the democracy. >> thank you. our time is short. we were covering protests earlier. we'll have you back and give you more time. the supreme court overturning roe v. wade leaving millions of american women's rights in the hands of individual states.
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a stunning decision by the supreme court overturning roe v. wade taking away the federal right to an abortion. the court upsetting 50 years of legal precedent, the conservative majority writing in the opinion and i quote, roe was egregiously wrong from the start and it must be over ruled. the impact is immediate. at least 13 states have trigger laws that ban abortion now and in the coming days and weeks. the decision sparking protests around the country. cnn donnie o'sullivan in is in washington. good evening to both of you. i'll start with you donee. what are you seeing? >> reporter: yeah, don, what a day it has been here in washington d.c. it's about almost exactly 13 hours since that historic


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