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hello, i'm victor blackwell, welcome to cnn newsroom. >> and i'm alisyn camerota. what are the legal implications today of cassidy hutchinson's stunning testimony. she detailed donald trump's erratic behavior surrounding the violence at the capitol, and what his top aides were doing. congresswoman liz cheney now
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turning up the pressure on pat cipollone to testify after hutchinson revealed that cipollone was worried that he and trump's entire team would face a litany of criminal charges if trump went to the capitol on january 6th. >> hutchinson said the president knew his supporters were armed and trying to join them. there are also new questions, though, about the former white house aide's claims that trump lunged for the steering wheel of his presidential suv when secret service agents told him he couldn't go to the capitol. now the secret service tells the committee that agents are willing to dispute that story under oath. cnn's ryan nobles is on capitol hill. ryan, big day for the committee. do we know what's next? >> reporter: well, there's no doubt, victor, and alson that the committee seems to be razor focused on pat cipollone the former white house counsel and his role in all of this. to this point he's only had very base level conversations with the committee. he has not had an extensive deposition under oath, and it's clear the committee wants to hear from him. they've said it publicly in one of their hearings, and now the
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vice chair liz cheney taking it a step further going to her twitter and specifically calling cipollone out saying that as we heard yesterday, the white house counsel pat cipollone had significant concerns regarding trump's j. 6 activities. it is time for mr. cipollone to testify on the record. any concerns he has about the institutional interests of his prior office are outweighed by the need for his testimony. and there is so much that pat cipollone knows about. he was at the center of all of these discussions that were taking place after the election leading up to january 6th. just as an example, some of the things the committee might want to hear from him, they might want to know what his office did in the lead up to january 6th, the pushback that there may have been on trump's attempt to install a new attorney general. what happened with the jeffrey clark meeting at the white house on georgia, also, the language that he used that they were concerned about in trump's january 6th speech, the way that he was telling him to dial things back. now, what we already heard yesterday in some of this
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testimony from cassidy hutchinson are some of the things that cipollone did to try and prevent donald trump and his administration from breaking the law or making things worse. cipollone told meadows, for instance, on january 6th that people are going to die and that the blood is going to be on your effing hands. that was one of the things she testified to yesterday, and she also warned trump that if he goes -- went to the capitol that he could be at legal risk and it also could be dangerous. so it is clear that they need to hear from cipollone but victor and alisyn, it's not going to be easy. he is an attorney. he understands what his rights are, and it is a very almost unprecedented situation for former white house counsel to testify in this form and fashion to a house committee that's organized by congress. >> ryan, as you know, some in the secret service now are disputing cassidy hutchinson's account of what trump did in that presidential suv where he lunged for the wheel and for the secret service agent, so what's the plan to get to the bottom of
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it? >> reporter: let's first play what cassidy hutchison said yesterday so we have a frame of reference, and then talk about the debate after. >> the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we're going back to the west wing. we're not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engel, and when mr. renato reaccounted the story to me he had motioned towards his clavicles. >> so it's important to point out a couple of things. first, this is not hutchinson saying that she witnessed this happening. this is her recounting a story that was told to her, but what we're being told by members of the secret service is that both ornado and engel are willing to testify under oath that hutchinson's account of what happened is not what occurred and that they also did not tell
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her that story, so there is a bit of a contradiction there. but it's also important to point out the distinction they're making here. they're claiming that there isn't a story about the president specifically lunging at the steering wheel or lunging at a member of the secret service detail. what they are not refuting -- which is important -- is that the former president was mad and that he wanted to go to the capitol, and that may be the more specific and more important part of this testimony. and the other thing we should point out, victor and alisyn is that if engel and ornado end up testifying in front of the committee, they are going to be under oath. they have had a conversation with the committee, but they probably have follow-up questions. yes, they may ask about this specific incident, but there may be a whole host of other things that the committee has questions about that could also be brought up as part of another deposition. >> certainly, ryan nobles for us there on capitol hill. ryan, thank you. >> joining us now, cnn legal analyst and former federal prosecutor elie williams,
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gentlemen, welcome back. i want to get to this dispute later. it's not really the headline here from the hutchison testimony. renato, let me start with you, on the question of does this question get doj closer to a case they can prove and fget a verdict from a jury, specifically on the question of the awareness of former president trump, that his supporters had weapons and according to hutchienson, they were not for him. what does that indicate? >> i think that is extremely important testimony, particularly for a potential incitement charge. what this establishes really for the first time is that former president trump knew that there were dangerous people in the crowd, people who are armed, and when he says that they -- you know, let them through the magnetometers, they don't want to hurt me. they're going to be marching to the capitol, the implication is that he understands they may
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hurt people there. i think that that is evidence that's powerful enough to at least cause the justice department to consider an incitement charge. i think really powerful and important evidence of his state of mind. >> in terms of the department of justice, are they ahead or behind of where the committee is in terms of putting these pieces together? in other words, that stunning testimony where cassidy hutchinson said that -- i'll just read it to everybody that president trump said i don't effing care that they have weapons. they're not here to hurt me. take the effing magnetometers away, let my people in. they will march to the capitol. would doj have heard that before? >> the thing with the justice department is we don't know because their work operates in secret. look, i was a prosecutor for a while, so was renato. all of these things happen outside of public view. grand juries, for instance, operate in secret. so on the question of is the justice department ahead or behind the committee, the justice department has charged 800 people with crimes already. they're certainly moving along
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with an investigation including charging very senior members of the proud boys and oath keepers. so you know, i don't know -- i don't think any of us can really answer the question as to whether they have gotten this evidence or information. now, if they haven't, it's a bit of a problem given that -- given how far and how much time has elapsed since january 6th. but again, by virtue of what congress is, it is a public body, and they have a very different job and a very different charge than the justice department, and i don't think we should hold them to the same standard. >> for that detail about the magnetometers, and all of the really jaw dropping revelations we heard from cassidy hutchinson, you say that the former president has a plausible defense for each of them? >> yeah, so here's the thing, vick victor, you could probably get to a place where you could charge him, but the argument that the president or any defendant would make in response is, well, look, he was just obsessed with crowd size. if you look at the testimony cassidy hutchinson gave leading
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up to that point. she said the president looked out at the crowd, saw that it wasn't big enough, and said eff it. i want more people there. get the magnetometers out of the way. this is the kind of factor that all of us prosecutors would have considered in deciding whether to proceed with charges. again, i want to be clear. you could still probably sustain a charge on a lot of these things, but he has an argument, and it's not a completely implausible one. >> renato, what do you think, since you think that was the moment that was the game changer? >> yeah, the reason i think it's a game changer is from a legal perspective. there's a first amendment issue that really protects trump's speech. political speech is usually protected by the first amendment, and unless he was imminently inciting a lawless action, there's no case because the first amendment bars it because speaking is permit firsted so i think this might get the
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justice department over the hump and being willing to charge. i agree with elliott, in any case against the former president, it's going to be a challenge to prove beyond a reasonable doubt. his state of is complicated. he talks in a word salad. there's always something you can use to benefit both sides, and. >> let's talk about this dispute over details inside the suv. this is after the speech on the 6th and what hutchinson said was that the former president reached for the steering wheel and then lunged at an agent, tony or na doe who was then deputy chief of staff, disputes said secret service agent wills go under oath to deny it. you would assume that the committee investigators had this locked down if they know this is going to be a wow moment. does this undermine the testimony this dispute? >> it does undermine the testimony. it's a credibility issue for the witness, and it hurts the witness's credibility. this happens all the time, number one, this isn't a criminal trial. it does happen in criminal trials.
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it happens in congressional proceedings too, and audiences and juries judge witnesses harshly when they have these sort of credibility slipups. that said, victor, it's very important to note that it doesn't negate the hour and 55 minutes of other testimony she gave, many of it -- much of it quite compelling and quite persuasive, and on top of that, what is it eight hours of testimony prior to that that the committee had put on, and so i think a lot of folks are fixating on the fact that there is a dispute here that the committee can clear up, and there's a dispute over this fact, but it doesn't -- you know, it doesn't negate everything. and the other point is that she was testifying fruitfully as far as -- truthfully as far as we can tell as to what she heard. there's a dispute as to what she was relaying, but it was still honest sworn testimony, so again, it's the kind of thing that can be cleared up pretty easily by putting those other witnesses on. >> what's your thought on why the committee would have put that bit of information out there if they hadn't buttoned up the other side of it?
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>> i actually think that was an unforced error by the committee. i actually think this is the danger of having a congressional committee out essentially in front of the justice department, whether by plan or not. if the justice department decided that they wanted to let the committee do this, i have to say as prosecutors -- i suspect elliott did the same thing -- before you put a witness into the grand jury, for example, locked in their testimony under oath, you really made absolutely sure that there was nothing impeachable there, there would be nothing that wasn't buttoned down. these are the sort of things that at least give the defense something to talk about, even though i think in the end it doesn't really matter here for the reasons you had mentioned earlier and elliott. so i think it was an unforced er error. >> elliott williams, renato mariotti, thank you. thanks. president biden holds a key meeting with turkey's president. the timing here is significant as nato formally invites two new countries to join the alliance. and with russia's war in ukraine grinding on, president biden is beefing up the u.s. military presence in europe.
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terms of their relationship, you would have had no sense of that listening to president biden's remarks at the top of that meeting with turkish president erdogan lavishing praise on him for what happened over the course of the last 24 hours. president erdogan signing off on a memorandum that would clear the way for the official invitation of sweden and finland to join nato, something that underscores that in this last 24 hours the idea that president putin may have invaded ukraine because he thought nato was adrift and perhaps could be fractured has been proven drama scli catastrophically to some degree to the russian sense of things wrong in every way. obviously the addition in the months ahead of two new members including finland that has an 8 money mi hundred mile border with russia, but also the u.s. presence and the u.s. posture in the region and in the alliance. president biden announcing today the u.s. would have a permanent headquarters in poland, new rotational troop deployments in places like romania. two new destroyers deployed to spain.
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fighter jets in the uk, air defense systems in germany. the u.s. which over the course of the last decade had started to shift away from europe very much doubling down, really surging a troop and equipment presence in this continent. to a degree you haven't seen since the cold war, and it underscores what has happened just over the course of the last six months. and it underscores the u.s. view and the u.s. effort over the course of those six months to really bring the alliance as close together as they possibly could to try and ensure that it was compatible not just for this moment but also going forward, and really rallying the members of the alliance and now two new future members of the alliance to bring their own commitments into play as well. there is no question about it, what president puntdtin has donn ukraine, twwhile there is no near-term solution for that and obviously it is a catastrophe in every way we're watching it play out on screens, from a long-term perspective nato is in a place it hasn't been in decades. that in large part, not entirely
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because of president putin's decision. >> thank you, phil. we have some new video of the moment that a russian mism missile struck a busy shopping mall in central ukraine. you can see the structure complete engulfed after that by flames and heavy smoke. president zelenskyy says as many as 1,000 people were inside at the time. >> officials say tlat least 18 people were killed, more than 50 injured and dozens are still missing. the worldwide travel, air travel woes continue. in the u.s. more than 500 flights have been canceled today alone. what this means for your holiday weekend. and one senior house republican who voted against impeaching former president trump predicts big consequences after cassidy hutchinson's testimony. that's next.
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millions of americans are getting ready to travel this weekend. delta says it anticipating customer volumes not seen since before the pandemic. but the ongoing surge in flight delays and cancellations could impact your plans. >> today is the second consecutive day of more than 500 flight cancellations in the u.s. richard quest is the cnn business editor at large and anchor of "quest means business". richard, i took a round trip flight out to the west coast.
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i had two cancellations, five delays, three gin and tonics to get me through it. >> that's a lot of math. >> why is this happening? >> last night i'm in london now -- and last night i flew over from new york united. we were just about -- we were late out of the gate but got here on time because of the winds. the reality is the airports are heaving. the plane last night was packed to the doors. it was actually oversold. they were offering up to $1,500 for passengers to give up their seat and go on a later flight and the infrastructure can't cope. it is as simple as that. there are too many people trying to fly at the same time at a time when the industry just simply hasn't rebuilt its capacity. aviation is like a swiss clock. it has interconnecting cogs that are finely tuned, and what happened, of course, is the
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pandemic gummed everything up, and they haven't managed to get it back together again to cope with the demand. so, for instance, united is cutting flights out of newark simply because they can't guarantee a reliable service. delta is now saying to people you can change your ticket and interestingly, you can change your july 4th plans, and there won't even be a fare difference. that's very unusual and that is an indication of how serious the situation is. >> richard, what are they doing to improve the situation? >> well, there's no quick answer, alisyn, i wish i could sort of say magic wand, all will be well. there is none, because you've got to reemploy staff who left the industry. there are security questions about you can't just suddenly take people on and have them carrying bags or checking people. it's simply not possible. it's going to take time. and that's why when i was in
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podcast and rena shaw, she's a republican strategist and a senior adviser for the republican women for progress. great to see both of you. congressman, you know, there's always a question of what will move the needle with, you know, trump's very, very devoted base and there was one data point that i found interesting today, and that was "the washington examiner," this conservative outlet as you know. it has all sorts of well-known contributors that appear on fox regularly, and here was their editorial today. former white house aide cassidy hutchinson's tuesday testimony ought to ring the death knell for former president donald trump's political career. trump is unfit to be anywhere near power ever again. what do you think changed yesterday, if anything? >> alisyn, i think it's cumulative. i think these hearings are hurting trump. the question is how deep and for how long, and i'd remind everybody in the week after january 6th, i'm in a unique position because i hear from
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that devoted trump base every day, and in the week after january 6th even trump's most devoted base was back on their heels, and they were disappointed and angry and questioning trump, and then over time that was all corrected. the other thing, alisyn, that i'm hearing is from his devoted base they're not disappointed in his behavior that's coming out during these hearings. what they're telling me is, oh, all of this stuff is going to make it harder for trump to win in 2024. that's, i think, what's moving them for now away from trump. >> now, that's the base. rena, let me ask you about the republican members of congress who, as we said at the top are privately stunned. they're gobsmacked in their offices behind closed doors. do you see anything? did you hear anything that would suggest, rena, that they're going to come out and put some
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names behind this astonishment? >> look, it's not a small that i think th-- thing that mick mulvaney came out in support of cassidy hutchinson. he doesn't think she's lying. there are people who support this young woman who's not even close to 30. they know she has no reason to lie about what she saw. she was part of the heartbeat of the west wing, and i'm of course no stranger to that kind of thing. i remember on capitol hill working for two different republican members of congress sharing sentiments like that when i was frustrated. one big line she said which kind of struck me was he needs to care, and she was of course talking about her direct boss, chief of staff mark meadows. the reality is this. whether or not it moves the needle with trump supporters or not is not the question here. it's whether or not people start to back candidates like governor ron desantis with more sort of enthusiasm, the long-time
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sentiment in the republican party has been a love for our governors, of course, those who get things done. and now with this picture of an unhinged trump it bolsters the image. it helps too that trump endorsed candidates are losing across the country. there's two things at play here. >> that leads us to sean hannity, joe, he's confusing because the texts that have come out. i mean, honestly during the hearings show that he was very worried in the days before january 6th. he saw the storm cloud, you know, gathering, and so he was sending texts to mark meadows, i'm very worried about the next 48 hours, and then last night he's just back on the slavish trump train. i'll just play a little pbit of what he was trying to say about how there's nothing to see here at these hearings. >> they were busy with yet another anti-trump kangaroo court and show trial where the outcome, as we've been telling you has been and remains predetermined. we see nothing but blind, never ending rage, what is seemingly
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an obsessive-compulsive cult like rage against donald trump. >> joe, doesn't sean want to pivot to a winner at some point? >> alisyn, with all due respect, there's nothing confusing about sean hannity. look, he's a fraud, and he is a trump cheerleader, and he'll be that way -- i mean, alisyn, hannity would be the last person on the trump boat. the other thing that just drives me crazy, and victor, you nailed it, these republican members of congress who are privately stunned, privately. i'm so sick of the privately. i think most of them, alisyn, will move to a winner, but we're nowhere near that yet. donald trump is still the prohibitive nominee of this party. >> rena, i want to touch on something you mentioned there about trying to get mark meadows
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to care. repeatedly hutchinson described mark meadows sitting on his sofa scrolling on his phone at some of the crucial moments leading up to and through the insurrection. let's watch part of the testimony. >> i remember him being alone in his office for most of the afternoon. around 2:00 to 2:05, around 2:00 to 2:05, you know, we were watching the tv and i could see that the rioters were getting closer and closer to the capitol. mark still hadn't popped out of his office or said anything about it. watching the tv, chief? and he's like, yeah. the rioters are getting really close. have you talked to the president? he said, no, he wants to be alone right now. and i just remember -- i remember thinking in that moment mark needs to snap out of this, and i don't know how to snap him out of this, but he needs to care. >> he needs to care. really a devastating portrait that she painted there of the
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chief of staff just scrolling on his phone as there are rioters approaching the capitol. >> yeah, the chief of staff to the president of the united states was so very passe about one of his bros in congress, mike pence. i remember watching the two of them how they got along when they served together there, how they got along so well, and here he was. they were calling for mike pence to be hung, and mark meadows just does not care it seems. so look, that's frustrating, but the big picture here is that democracy's fragile, and it takes principled good people with good morals and values to say something's wrong here. they should be the people who are able to decipher between right and wrong. sadly in this case it was a woman so young and not older, more experienced people. but listen, the reality is that trumpism can be defeated and i know a lot of people don't agree with me, but as long as fear and division, and demonizing the democrat s is a playbook of the republicans, which it will be for a very long time, more and more people will start to
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understand that's not the american way. already last night we saw john curtis and blake moore two candidates that won primaries and they both voted for the january 6th select committee. that tells me again trumpism can be defeated. maybe not next hour, maybe not tomorrow, but down the line it can be. >> yeah, and we saw some losses in colorado for some election deniers in the primary as well. rena shaw, joe walsh, thank you both. >> thank you, guys. okay, at least 27 states now have cases of monkey pox prompting the white house into action. we'll tell you what they're doing ahead. ur-breeze° transfers heat away from your body... you feel c cool, night after night. for a lilimited time, save $500 on all tempur-breeze°™ mattresses.
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supreme court justice stephen breyer just notified president biden that his last day on the bench will be tomorrow. the court will release its final opinions of the session beginning at 10:00 a.m. and his retirement goes into effect at
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noon. breyer says his successor ketanji brown jackson is prepared to, quote, take her prescribed oaths and will begin her service as the high court's first black woman justice. meanwhile, legal chaos continues since the supreme court overturned roe versus wade. several states already enacting trigger laws or trying to enforce centuries old abortion laws. this is setting up a slew of legal battles. cnn's erica hill has been tracking all of these for us. erica, great to have you. >> it feels like they changed for the day already. >> it's very hard to keep track of. >> let's start with texas, what's happening there? >> you see on this map that we have the dark orange states, these are states where as of now abortions are either banned or severely restricted. the issue in texas is that certain clinics -- not the entire state -- but certain clinics yesterday were granted a temporary restraining order, which means that they can now continue to provide abortions up until the period of six weeks through july 12th when another hearing is scheduled. so how did this all come about? this is related to a law in
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texas from 1925, and so what happened was on monday a lawsuit was filed that specifically named the attorney general, ken paxton in the state of texas and also some local district attorneys saying, hey, this law doesn't work. so what they're asking for -- sorry, what the judge said is we're granting you a temporary restraining order. the reason this law came up is because on friday when the supreme court overruled roe versus wade, ken paxton put out a statement, he said, oh, hey, by the way, while we're waiting for our trigger law to take effect in texas, i want you to know we will assist with any local prosecutor who pursues criminal charges and was specifically talking about this 1925 law. so now there's a temporary restraining order, but again, only for the clinics that are -- that would fall under the jurisdiction of these local d.a.s who were named. >> that's just one state's confusion. that's just one out of 50. take us to wisconsin. >> what's happening in wisconsin, also confusing, forget 1925, in wisconsin we're going to go all the way back to
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1849. women couldn't even vote. so this law bans abortion in almost every circumstance, and what's happening here is yesterday the district attorney for the state and the governor announced that they were suing because what they want the court to say is this law is no longer in effect. they want it struck down because they say it also contradicts laws that have been passed in the years since. one of them includes a 20-week ban on abortion. so they're asking for that to be struck down in wisconsin. it's important to note that in this state, in the state of wisconsin, nearly all abortions were stopped. all abortions were stopped rather on friday as soon as the ruling was announced. >> okay. are there states where they're adding in protections? >> they are, they're trying to. there are a number of states where the attorney general have said they're working together. we've heard from governors, most recently we've heard from the governor of nevada who signed an executive order sort of similar to what we heard from newsome. he's saying here our state, nothing is going to change
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because of the way the laws are in nevada. abortion will remain legal. we want to stay a safe haven, and if you come to me from another state with a warrant related to what you say is a crime related to reproductive health services, i'm not playing ball. >> erica, i actually understand it better. thank you very much. >> i'm glad it made sense. you're welcome. >> thanks for being here. victor. >> the president of emily's list, which works to get pro-choice women elected to office. lafonza, thank you for being with us. let's start with the obvious now enthusiasm gap in the favor of democrats, new npr marist poll shows 78% of democrats say the decision makes them more likely to vote in november. that's a 24 point advantage over republicans. how do you sustain that passion, that momentum for the next four months? >> well, that's going to be a real question, victor, and thank you for having me, but i am convinced that the american
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people are ready to go to the ballot tomorrow. this never before has the u.s. supreme court taken away a right, and a fundamental freedom, from half of the country after 50 years of prec precedent. so we are going to make sure they are supporting fighters like gretchen whitner, fighters like candidate-elect, democratic candidate-elect or democratic candidate for governor, i'm sorry, stacey abrams. we're going to continue to talk about this issue. you're going to see democratic candidates all over the country center this in their campaign, particularly one supported by em emily's list and we're going to continue to talk to voters and keep it in front. there's no stopping the women in this country and frankly, the majority of the american people who support the position of roe and reject the decision of this
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court. >> so you say you're going to keep it out front, but the polls show, and republicans are banking on this in their congressional campaign committees that the economy is out front. when voters were asked, and this is after the leak of the draft decision, abortion, 12% say it's the most important issue for voting in november. the economy, 48% of voters. so it suggests that abortion is important but it is not the primary driver. >> and i think that is a real reflection of the american people, victor. the american people are whole people. it is true that there are things that are taught that remain top of mind for them, and, you know, it is going to be important that democratic candidates are continuing to talk about the work that is being done, the plans that are being put forward, the laws that are being passed to address some of those most important issues.
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i didn't hear the republican plan for how to solve the baby formula crisis. not a single republican voted for it. and i think democrats are going to continue to remind voters who is standing with them in terms of protecting their essential freedoms. >> but more than standing with them, the question is are the democrats getting enough done. this is from congresswoman cori bush where she says, this was to the "washington post," we can't just tell people, well, just vote, vote your problems away because they're look at us, well, we question already voted for you. democrats have had an opportunity to codify this over the last 50 years, that this is a fundraising opportunity for many candidates, and they're just dissatisfied with what democrats have done on this issue leading up to this point. >> i think represent tatives li cori bush and barbara lee and marie newman who have gone out and shared their story,
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representative pramila jayapal who have gone out and shared their experience of having an abortion and what the difficulties that surround making choices like that. and i think the representative is right to call the attention to what members of the house have done. they passed the women's health protection act. >> what she's pointing out is what has not been done. >> we don't have a pro choice democratic majority in the u.s. senate. and that is what i think is what needs to be resolved, and that what emily's list is working to focus on and so are many places around the country. >> laphonza butler with emily's list, thank you so much for your time. >> thank you. multiple trump allies were reportedly left speechless by cassidy hutchinson's testimony. does this open the door for different gop hopefuls in 2024? that's next.
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the white house is stepping up its response to the monkeypox outbreak. so far there are more than 300 cases across 27 states and d.c. >> the administration now plans to send those states more vaccines and the cdc is activating its emergency operations center. cnn's senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen
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joins us now. elizabeth, what does that mean? >> what it means is that the cdc is now recommending a vaccine for some people after they've been exposed to monkeypox. so victor, alisyn, it's a little bit different than the covid vaccine and others that we discussed because in this case it's after you have been exposed to the virus. let's go ahead and look at those statistics again. as you mentioned, we have about 300 cases in 27 states in the u.s. so far, and we've got about 5,000 cases in about 50 countries. they're going to prioritize the vaccine because they don't have enough of it at this point. they're going to prioritize it to places that have high case counts and so those states would include california, new york, illinois, florida, and d.c., those are the states with the five highest case counts. now, because as i said, they don't have enough at this point, hopefully they will soon. they're going to be reck ommendg it for certain high risk groups. let's take a look at how those high risk groups are. if you have a sexual partner
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diagnosed with monkeypox, the cdc recommends a vaccination, and soon, within two weeks of exposure, really as soon as possible but certainly within those two weeks. also if you've had close physical contact with someone who had monkeypox, and you were at an event where it was spreading, let's say at a pride event or perhaps if you live in an area where there's a lot of monkeypox, and gay men with recent multiple sexual partners. if you were at an event where monkeypox was spreading, at pride, or if you live in an area where there's a lot of monkeypox spread. you don't have to know, bob had it, and i had sex with bob, it doesn't have to be that specific. if you know you were at an event it was spreading and that you had close contact, that's when they're saying you should get the vaccine. victor, alisyn? >> elizabeth cohen, thank you. >> thanks. it's the top of the hour on cnn newsroom. i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell.


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