tv CNN Newsroom With Ana Cabrera CNN July 6, 2022 10:00am-11:00am PDT
. hello, thank for joining us. i'm ana cabrerra in new york. a chilling confession, a stunning pure lack of emotion. the 21-year-old gunman in the highland park parade shooting appeared in court today facing seven counts of first degree murder. the details are in a word horrifying. we are learning more about his actions that day. the weapon and what he considered doing after unleashing the hail of bullets on innocent people at that parade. cnn's josh campbell was inside the courthouse when the shooter appeared. you described his appearance as
chilling. >> reporter: it was incredibly chilling, ana. this was the first look we were getting at the suspected gunman. he was appearing via zoom behind me. he is, obviously, still in custody. what's so chilling is the prosecutor as they laid out the potential or actual charges so far in this case, the potential charges in the future, they started by naming the victims. those who had been killed in this attack. and as they were reading off the names, i was looking at the screen with the shooter. he sat there with no emotions. he was flanked with deputies, he looked down to the right and left, zero emotion as they read out the people he allegedly killed. tell judge in this case determined this suspect is still a continuing tlel threat to the public. he revoked bail. he will remain in custody. the next hearing is later this month. this comes as we learn chilling
new details about is attack, how it unfolded. they said the suspect went to the rooftop where this parade was going on and went through three magazines of ammunition. he pulled out an assault-style rifle, prosecutors said, scanned that crowd and eventually started opening fire. going through one magazine after another. each containing 30 rounds. a hail of bullets as these people were fleeing and pannish iiced, seven killed, dozens and dozens injured. one other striking detail we heard afterwards in a press conference a short time ago, police tell us as the suspect was on the run, there was this hour's long manhunt, that the suspect contemplated another attack. in the madison, wisconsin area, police say the suspect confessed he drove up upon this crowd, a celebration of sorts. even on the run, he had 60 round of ammunition with him and contemplated whether or not he
should open cease-fire on that crowd. ultimately deciding not to. only he knows. it shows you, there could have been yet more -- as far as additional charges, prosecutors say they're just getting started. there are, obviously, a number of people injured in this crowd as well. n they expect to bring additional charges and those first degree murder charges carry a life sentence. ana. >> josh campbell. a lot of new information. thank you for bringing it to us. thank you 57d let's discuss with jay mudd. author of how to stop a mass shooting. thank you for being here. phil, your reaction to what we learned. prosecutors say the gunman voluntarily confessed to firing his weapon on paradegoers and thought about carrying out another attack before he was caught. >> reporter: boy, let me hold my
temper here. there's one thing i would look at here. if you look at the individual, ana, the facts as we know now, the past couple days, police had to call to the home a few years ago because of the concerns about weapons in the home, especially knives and suicide watch. my first question as a former investigator/analyst is what did the family know when? because if somebody wants to stay with someone with this emotional state over years and was continuing to acquire weapons, why did nobody speak? the second overall question or commenthave about this is the echo of comments, an emotional state of an individual about to walk out the house, experience those individuals focus on the event. they do not focus on the aftermath of the event. it's so emotional to step out with a weapon and contemplate firing off that many round, the
emotion is invested in conducting it. when the person walks off the building, they don't know what they will do as remarkable as that sounds. >> wow. i want to come back to the earlier warnings and those police responses to a couple of reports in 2019 involving the suspect. but before we go there, james, your thoughts, as somebody who studies mass shootings, what do you make of this confession? how does it fit into your research? >> yeah. i think it's, in some ways, unique, in as much the main mass shooters die on the scene and the point that was just raised 5r7d not having a plan for what happens next is often part of the plan, which is they intend to die in the act. so it's only in some cases that we actually get this opportunity to understand this person after the fact, see them, and see their response and reaction to the crimes that they have done. in many cases, i think, it is a
situation where those who live, perhaps the fantasy of the crime didn't live up to the reaction of the crime. then they are left sort of contemplating what they've done, why they've done it. and the implications that now has. so i do think that's a really important point that your colleague has also mentioned there. >> and you brought up the incident months before the shooter got his gun. again, this is in 2019. his family called police at least two separate times we now know, worried that he was a threat to himself and to others. in one instance. in september of 2019, a family member reported that, you know, future gunman, said he was going to quote kill everyone. he said that police then removed 16 knives, a dagger, a sword. after few months later, he buys his gun. legally, he passes four background checks.
>> i understand this partly. but let me give you an answer that will make this more complicated. the first is what i mentioned earlier, you have to ask a question, a, whether the family knew he was acquiring weapons. why they didn't say something? if you want further action, when the police were first there, the family has to in some cases participate in a follow-up. ev departmenevidently they did . as soon as police want to take those weapons, that will go to the judge and politicians. the judge responding to the police request to take those weapons will say, was that a justified request? in states across the country, opponents of gun control will say that individual doesn't have a felony conviction. he should have a when upon the. this isn't on the cops. it's on the family, in my judgment and politicians who
need to give support to judges to say, take the weapons. >> i mean, here's the thing. it was the dad just a few months later who had to sponsor his son in an application to get these guns, because he was then 19 and didn't, you know, have to the qualifications to go get a weapon on his own. james, based on your research, how do you make sense of this specific shooter's family calling police. but then later sponsoring him to get guns? to to me it's two things, one is, it's very hard for parents and family member's friends to actually contemplate the person in front of them is a potential mass shooter. we have this narrative of shooters being monsters and madmen. when, in fact, they are our sons, our brothers, classmates and colleagues. we have to get over that mental hurdle to see this as a
possibility. secondly, often in the case of young shooters, that i are getting access to firearms through their family. whether they steal them, because they have not been securely sort of put in the house and safely locked up, or thigh have been gifted to them by family members. this is often a common flood we seen with younger shooters. it's really a moment for intervention. we need to be asking that serious question, why are people getting access to a firearms when they're in a crisis. you have to lock the guns up at home. we have to put more barriers in place for young people to get access to them. >> so the type of gun used in this shooting is also important to this story. the shooter allegedly fired more than 70 rounds using that high-powered rifle, similar to an ar-15, we are told. i can't wonder, would a handgun have been able to do this,?
a handgun been able to do so much carnage shooting from a rooftop if he didn't have this assault-style weapon? >> no way. just look at a couple statistics, one thing i'd like to see in america. they involve things like, these are numbers. statistics would be number of weapons per 100 citizens in america. i encourage any view tore look up that number. you would be astonished. we crushed the number of yemen. yemen has far fewer guns than we do and killing by weapon in this country, a number never discussed, that is suicide by gun. if you have a child that thought about suicide in the past. you authorize them to bring a weapon into the house. forget about the law, why would they ever have that happen? final comment that we need, bring in the uk and australia, retired police commissioners and ask what happens in your country when you remove weapons from households and in particular in
australia, what happens when you put an assault weapons ban if your country? the congress will never do that, because they don't want the answer, ana. >> james you co-created the violence project and hope this mass shooting will prevent the next tragedy. what strikes you most so far as a lesson to take away here? >> well, we try to layout solutions at three levels. the individual level, the institutional level and the societal level. the society ale level just as the other guest is mentioning here, if you want to have a big impact quickly, it's around a firearm. access to those deadly weapons, the large capacity magazines and so on, which cause such death and destruction. now going down to the individual level, safe storage of the weapons or in this case, the parents not actually sponsoring that purchase could have saved lives. at the institutional level, when
we think about our schools or workplaces, our communities, what could have been done to maybe spot the warning signs of violence in this case? there seems to have been a lot of red flags. a lot of people knew something but were perhaps afraid to do something about it. there is lots of things we can be doing. we don't have to sit around and wait for an act of congress. we can all be a part of the solution here. that's the important thing. >> you want to talk about somebodied into to believe someone they care about, a friend, colleague, acquaintance, family member, capable of such a horrific act. it never hurts to speak up, better safe than sorry. i appreciate the conversation. thank you both for your insight and expertise. let's turn now also to the seven lives lost, including a couple watching the parade with their young toddler son and a matter fleeing with her 22-year-old daughter. we have their story.
adrian. >> reporter: ana, there are so many memories behind each name. none of the names, but we're now starting to see the faces and hearing more about these victims, including eduardo uvaldeo. we learn he attended the parade with his wife and other children. after his family made the decision to take him off life support, he died this morning. his family tells us they attended the parade every year. c chastity was at the parade. her mother katherine was looking forward to attending the parade. and she describe what is she saw and the final words she spoke to her mother after she was shot. listen in. >> i looked up and i saw the shooter shooting down at the kids and i told her that it was
a shooter and she had to run. so i started running with her. we were next to each other. and he shot her in the chest. and she fell down and i knew she was dead. so i just told her that i loved her, but i couldn't stop, because he was still shooting everyone next to me. >> she was just a good mom and i got 22 years with her. and i got to have 22 years with the best mom in the world. >> reporter: cassie describing the final moments with her mother. they came here to celebrate. she left grieving like so many others. >> i am so heart broken for her and this story about a two-year-old who lost boat of his parents. this is just so horrific. what more you can share about this? >> reporter: you are talking
about 2-year-old aidan mccarthy. he was here with his father kevin and mother irina mccarthy. we spoke to the grandfather, the grandfather says his daughter was the love of his life. his only child. she was everything. we know the father kevin mccarthy used his body before dieing to shield his 2-year-old son aidan from gunfire. soon after that child was walking around alone and good samaritans took him in, until he was later reunited with his grandfather. he is now in the care of his grandparents and the grandfather said when he was reunited with his grandson, aidan, he said, mommy and daddy are coming soon. now that grandfather has to tell that 2-year-old his parents are never returning. ana. >> just think about the fear, that two-year-old must have felt
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cnn has learned that former trump white house counsel pat cipollone will testify behind closed doors. but on videotape with the january 6th committee. cipollone was with trump on the day of the capitol insurrection, making his testimony critical. cnn's ryan noble joins us now on capitol hill. when is this happening? and what kind of information is the summit seeking from cipollone, specifically? >> reporter: yeah, it's scheduled for friday. the big thing they are hoping pat cipollone can do is fill some of the gaps of the testimony that they've received from other white house aides. some of it, which has been behind closed doors, we seen clips of through videotape. some of it live. of course, the best and most obvious example is that of cassidy hutchinson, the former aid to mark meadows, who frequently brought cipollone up as a part of her testimony. what they'd like to see is if cipollone can explain the
counsel he gave the president and his top aides as it relates to standing in the way of the certification of the election and their attempts to pressure former vice president mike pence and then what they knew about what was happening here at the capitol, of course, there has been testimony the president knew some of the rioters were armed, yet, he still wanted to go to the capitol. his testimony is very important. we should say there is some sort of a concern of how much he can reveal, with executive privilege and attorney/client privilege. the committee said they will work that out as a part of the negotiation. both sides believe cipollone can be beneficial to the investigation. >> and to people, hopefully, as well can learn more about the inside workings on january 6th. stick around, i want to bring in a former federal prosecutor into the conversation and hosts the
on topic podcast. securing testimony from pat cipollone, give us your opinion on that. >> well, from a legal perspective, i think it's a very savvy move by the committee. if cipollone can, he can create complications and make it difficult for the committee to get his testimony. what i think happened here, based on the reporting we've seen is the committee wisely cut a deal with cipollone. they're getting everything they can get out of him it looks like from the "new york times" report that it will be a lot of conversations with clark and eastman, people who weren't the president and so forth. i think that's smart to get whatever testimony they can get out of it. then if they want to turn back and try to force him to say more, they can add that litigation. but litigating with an attorney/client privilege is complicated. i think this is a smart move by the committee. >> we have seen some videotaped
depositions played during the hearings that's happened. up to this point, we know there is an upcoming hearing next week. ryan, what do we know about that next hearing? >> it will take place on tuesday, 10:00 eastern time. the focus will be on the domestic extremists and white nationalists a part of causing the chaos on january 6th. what congressman adam schiff promised they will demonstrate some sort of a tie between these groups and those close to the white house. so the question is, is it through someone like rudy guiliani, through someone like roger stone? could even mark meadows have been in conversation with some of the members of this group? just how close was that relationship? of course, the committee has established on some level how involved these organizations were, particularly when it comes to pre-meditation. what the plans were ahead of january 6th. this is them building the case this wasn't some sort of peaceful protest that got out of
control. the next step is tying to administration officials. of course, we already know many of these individuals have been indicted by the department of justice on crimes as serious as se deshs conspiracy. it demonstrates they're not happen. they want to tie it to individuals in trump's orbit. >>. >> i want to pivot to a special grand jury, the georgia grand jury is trying to overturn the election. they have suspended senator lend say graham and guiliani and these other former top legal advisers to trump. so what does this tell you about where the investigation? this is the fulton county, da investigation, where it stands, where it's headed. >> well, it looks to me like the fulton county, da views the entire episode, where there was a pressure campaign to get mr. raffensberger, the secretary of state in georgia, to you know
find votes or potentially change the outcome, alter outcome of the election there as a crime. and so, you know, what i see is a very aggressive effort to put a marker don't that they want to investigate this. we don't know exactly why they, the time line is that they're doing this now. but all signs are pointing to the fulton county da to being very agressive to do this. which makes sense she's an elected official, and is concerned about this apparent crime in her district. >> senator graham's legal team says they are planning to challenge this subpoena. his attorneys are saying, they were informed through their discussion up to this point that graham is quote neither a subject nor a target of the investigation, simply a witness, end quote. does that make sense to you? that he wouldn't be suspended as a target? is that how it usually works, that he would be suspended? that he's a witness? >> yes, he would.
what's unusual is why he wouldn't cooperate. so i actually, ana, as i am a practicing lawyer. i represent clients all the time who are suspended pursuant to government investigations. i usually am trying to figure out whether ply client is a subject or a target versus a witness. if my client is a witness, i'm usually happy to bring them in and cooperate with the interview. why not? there is not as much of a downside, if they don't have liability for themselves. it's usually faster and more efficient to get it out of the way. the fact that senator graham is fighting this tells me he is going to spend a lot of money to avoid being seen as a witness against donald trump. >> so you are saying ultimately donald trump will be the target of this investigation. is that what the you know different signals are telling you? >> yes. i do. and i think that the incentives are different for the fulton county da than they are
potentially for the attorney general, who may be concerned about how this is, you know, the impact it's going to have on the country as a whole. i think the fulton county da appears to me from all public statements as full steam ahead. and the obvious target here is donald trump. he is the one on a recording with the georgia secretary of state directing him as to what to do. and, frankly, people like graham appear to be based on public reports to be acting at the behest of the president. >> thank you both for joining us. less than two hours from now, the president delivers a speech on the top issue for voters. the economy. but is there anything the white house can do to get americans out of this fix? ♪ lunchables! built to b be eaten. ♪
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a hand-written letter to the president asking the president to do more to get her out. cnn's phil mattingly joins us from the white house. what are you learning? what did the president say on this call? >> reporter: the wife of brittney griner has been asking for weeks to speak to the president about her wife, unlawfully detained, as the u.s. said. she spoke with national security adviser jake sullivan and secretary of state blinken and it wasn't until today she spoke to vice president harris and president biden. it was to assure the u.s. is working hard to get brittney griner released as well as paul whaleen, another american held in russia at this point in time. the genesis of this phone call seems to be the private letter, she wrote to president biden. he read that yesterday morning. in that, she said she is terrified she may be here forever, made it clear, she didn't want him to forget about
her and other hostages overseas. the president drafted a response. it was red to sherell on the phone and he made it clear to the wife he and the administration will be in regular process in. brew the president and vice president making sure they are very much working on this issue on brittney griner's detention in russia. let's fast forward now, because in a couple hours, president biden will speak on the economy and the sticker shock that's hammering all of us. he will announce new protections for work, and their pensions. his remarks come as members of his own party are getting more frustrated. they are questioning if the white house can muster the urgency to deal with huge challenges from the economy to the supreme court overturning row. v. wade. a mon moth poll shows americans think the u.s. is on the wrong
track. that's an all-time low. the re13spondrespondents top co inflation. bring us the facts, rahel, where do we stand with inflation? >> for a lot of americans, their reality is shaped by the high inflation. let's look at cpi, consumer inflation. you have to go to the early '80s, it came in about 8.6%. of course, we know, under the hood of that number, it was really high, energy prices, food prices. the cost of new and used cars, pretty much everything broad based has gone up. the cost of shelter has gone up. which has economists concerned. if you are an american at home, it's hard to perhaps understand how to feel great about the economy right now, even though there are some silver linings when you get hit and personally, i talked to economists and trait
traders every day. sometimes i find myself shocked when i go to the grocery store and think, wow, this costs this now? so it's understandable. let's talk about gas prices. we've actually seen a different trend lately. because how about this? gas prices today on average $4.78, lowish than a week ago. that's interesting. >> lower? >> than a month ago, of course, much higher than a year ago. so some release for consumers. certainly not anything to necessarily celebrate. one thing i can say is folks who watch this space very closely expect this number to keep decreasing, at least in the short term. so that is perhaps good news, gas prices, ana, according to that monmouth poll was the second top priority. inflation right at the top, gas prices right under. >> is that high for the inflated gas prices, i should say, are a big part of all of it. i am wondering unemployment, you mentioned a silver lining.
that is one area relatively strong through all of this. >> yes, exactly. so when you look at the labor market. this has been really interesting, the labor market is really strong, red hot, in fact. demand for workers has remained red hot. in january 2020, this was the pandemic. the shutdowns we saw all around the country a. that, however, as we started to reopen and as demand rebounded, we saw unemployment drift low. right now we're about 3.6%. 3.5 is a 50-year low. we're seeing really strong demand for workers. the next jobs report is friday. that will be really interesting. another silver lining i think is important to talk about is research shows that by and large, not everyone, but most americans still have more in their checking and savings accounts before the pandemic. bank of america research recently backed that up. so the hope is that with the
labor market remaining as strong as it has been and with consumers still having quite a bit in their checking accounts they can weather the storm of inflation and they're not seeing signs of peaking yet. that's the concern. >> 10 downing street, british prime minister boris johnson is digging in as a growing number of government officials say, we're out. >> i am having to tell you, i am getting on with the job that i was elected to do and that is what i am going to do. >> in less than 24 hours, the day, 36 ministers have quit following a series of scandals. the latest, johnson's handling of a sexual misconduct handling of a former minister. that comes weeks after the prime minister survived a no confidence vote from the so-called party-gate scandal.
he can't face another vote for a year. there is some talk government officials could try to make some changes to the rules to get rid of johnson. we will closely continue to watch that. it has been six weeks since 19 children and two teachers were murdered at a school in uvalde, texas. but there is a lot we still don't know about that tragic day. now the mayor says he is worried about a possible coverup. ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ crorossed the desert's bare, man. ♪ ♪ i'v've breathed the mountain air, man. ♪ ♪ of travel i've had my share, man. ♪ ♪ i've e been everywhere. ♪ ♪ i've been to: pittsburgh, parkersburg, ♪ ♪ gravelbourg, colorado, ♪ ♪ ellensburg, cedar city, dodge city, what a pity. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere, man. ♪ ♪ i've been everywhere. ♪
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today! zbljtsz the mayor of uvalde, texas is making a shocking allegation. he says fears of a coverup are on his mind by the department of public safety there in texas. that's the lead agency conducting the investigation into the school shooting that left 19 children and two teachers dead. cnn crime and justice correspondent interviewed the mayor and is joining us now. why does he think a coverup is happening? >> reporter: well, one of the things he's concerned about with the texas department of public safety, the dps, is that since they are running this information, this investigation, they're controlling the information and the concern is that they're trying to discern from his point paint themselves sort of in a light where they almost did nothing wrong and
instead blaming everything on the local authorities and specifically the school police chief. take a listen to him describing some of his concerns. >> reporter: i think it's a coverup. >> they're covering up? >> they're covering up for who? >> for maybe his agencies or maybe the story he told that, you know, it's hard, you know, as i say, it's always hard when you tell lies, you have to keep telling lies. the story can't change on something this horrific four times in three days. that's what he's done. let's be candid, when i got to that scene, there were 30 or 40 officers, the various videos, you see officers running around with flag jackets on, ballistic helmets on, that video has been shown from the outside. yet, when we talk about no presence and dps there in the hallway? >> reporter: so that's the
thing. he says he wants to know what the state troopers or texas officials were doing in the hallway, were doing outside the school exactly what their role is. ultimately, he wants to also know why didn't any other officers try and help and assist here and break through the door going to the classroom? he feels it's unfair that everything is blamed sort of on one agency. he feels the blame needs to be shared. that's why he thinks this information needs to come out soon, so the families can learn the response here. >> as you point out, that agency falls under the governor. so how does he plan to get to the bottom of it? >> reporter: well, he said he's going to write a letter to the governor asking the governor to come to uvalde and talk to the families. it's unclear if he will do that. he thinks he will continue to put pressure on the governor, on the state officials to give this
information. also, his concern with the local da. he wants her to be able to release information. >> thank you for that interview and sharing it with you. russia's war on ukraine is making its way to space. how cosmonauts on the international space station are celebrating the russian capture of a key region in ukraine. and this picture was taken, here on earth, of what is supposed to be a lake. what's making it dry up? with 30 grams of protein, one gram of sugar. enter powered by protein challenge for a chance to win big. ♪ ♪ is this where your grandparents cut a rug, with a jitterbug? or returned from war, dreaming of the posbilities ahead. ♪ where your dad waited for his dad
the international space station has long been a neutral place despite russia's war in ukraine until now. take a look at these photos. those are cosmonauts posing with the flags of the luhansk and donetsk regions in ukraine, and these were posted on july 3rd. that's the same day separatist leaders in lieu, whose countries have been actively supporting ukraine. nasa and other members of the crew have not commented on those photos. now to an other worldly scene that is anything but. this is the great salt lake in utah or, as you can see, what's left of it. the water level has just dropped to a new low, and it's expected to dry up even more. joining us now is meteorologist jennifer gray. jennifer, those images are shocking. what's causing that? >> they're really haunting. so we've seen just a mega
drought going on in the west, and this is just a jaw dropping example of that. great salt lake will most likely continue to fall over the next couple of months because they typically reach their lowest level of the year in the fall, and so it is most likely going to go even lower. lake mead, lake powell also at their lowest that we've ever seen. these are pictures of lake mead. we're now seeing world war ii ships being rebuilt because it's so low. we've never seen this before. this mega drought over the last couple of decades all fueled by climate change is really making the water crisis in the west dire. we have more than 3/4 of the west right now in drought conditions, and it looks like the drought is going to persist over much of the west through july. this is the july outlook, and so great salt lake right there, that's going to be in that area where it's persisting as well as lake mead, lake powell. now, lake mead should start to fill up just a little bit over the next couple of months
because it does get some help from the monsoon rains in the southwest. but we are hot across the board, not just the west but in the midsection of the country as well. excessive heat today all across the midsection of the country and the south where the heat index feels like 112 in memphis, shreveport at 106. we have had three heat waves so far this season. most of those impacting the west and the south, and so it is just sticking around as far as we're concerned. morning low temperatures have been close to 80 degrees and ana, that's dangerous as well because your body can't recover. that's typically when we see our body recover is during the overnight hours, and we're not able to do had that. >> and you add in the humidity, and it just feels that much worse. thank you, jennifer gray. i appreciate it. that does it for us today. see you back here tomorrow, same time, same place. until then find me on twitter @ana cabrera. much more with alisyn camerota after this.
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