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happening down there that i think could be emulated everywhere. >> you have a cool job. >> i do. >> i appreciate you bringing it to us. >> great to see you. >> good to see you. >> be sure to tune into "patagonia, life on the edge of the world" premiering this sunday night at 9:00 on cnn. it's the top of the hour on cnn newsroom, i'm alisyn camerota. shock, sadness and outrage across the globe, following the assassination of former japan prime minister shinzo abe. the chilling moment was caught on video. we want to warn you, this video is disturbing. >> police tackled the suspect just moments after he fired those two fatal shots from a home made gun. the 41-year-old man admitted to
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the shooting, but at this point, his motive remains unclear. the murder of a long time leader has stunned japan, a country where gun violence is virtually unheard of. a former adviser likens abe's assassination to that of jfk. president biden visited the japanese ambassador's residence to offer his condolences, and flags are half staff. let's bring in selina gomez. what more do we know about the suspect and the investigation. >> we learned from police that the suspect confessed to shooting former prime minister shinzo abe. in terms of the motive, all we know is he holds a grudge against a specific organization and believe that former prime minister shinzo abe was a part of it. he is a 41-year-old unemployed man. former prime minister shinzo a
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bay was shot at 11:30 a.m. local time. he immediately collapsed. there was excessive bleeding. medical examiners say he died of excessive blood loss when he was pronounced dead at 5:00 p.m. local time. this sent shock waves across japan, around the world. he was such a towering political figure in japan, and also cultivated these very close ties with political leaders around the world. famously managing to have cozy relationships and stable relationship with trump, playing golf with him, eating hamburgers with him, having regular phone calls, something that other political leaders were not able to do. he bolstered security ties with the united states, with other asia pacific countries as a way to counter the growing threat and anxiety with the rising ch china, but also his assassination has sent shock waves across the psyche in japan. this is a country that is considered one of the safest in the world. gun violence virtually nonexistent. in all of 2021, there was only
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one gun-related death. just one. most guns are illegal. they are incredibly difficult to come by. any potential buyer needs to go through extensive background checks, through a very long, lengthy process. it speaks volumes, the fact that this suspect used what authorities say was a home made gun. speaks volumes about the environment and the safety in japan, and also heartbreaking. alisyn. >> selina wang, thank you for all of that. let's bring in nic robertson, our cnn diplomatic editor, josh row rogan, cnn political analyst. and cecile shay at the chicago council of global affairs, and worked closely with abe, with the administration, i should say, during her time as a senior embassy official in tokyo. cecile, let me start there, and help us understand the shock waves that the world is experiencing today and why abe was such an important global
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figure. >> the shock waves around the world are going to be slightly different from the ones inside japan that are going to be more multilayered. first of all, abe was in power for a very long time, the longest serving prime minister in history in a country that churns through prime ministers. it's not unusual for japan to go through a prime minister every 12 to 18 months, and he was there year after year, and that continuity was very important to the rest of the world. it was an important time for the world coming out of the economic crisis that hit all of our countries. and of course also seeing a rise in china, and then he also helped to bring japan back after the horrible tsunami and nuclear disaster, which really shook japan's confidence in itself very deeply. so he was an important figure on the world stage. after all, he was head of the third largest economy in the world after the united states and china.
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japan is incredibly influential donor to the developing world. has the most advanced military in asia, for all the people talk about their pacifist constitution and the fact that they don't call their military a military. it is the most advanced military in asia. and they are perhaps one of our most dependable, if not our single most dependable ally and friend around the world. don't forget, after hurricane katrina, it was the japanese who was the first on the scene providing aid to the people of new orleans on u.s. organizations were there, of course. so the japanese and japan has been a close ally and friend of the u.s. for many years, and really abe served to take that up to a whole new level. >> and josh, i mean, we just cannot overstate how rare gun violence is in japan, and how shocking an assassination like this is. i mean, it have the numbers. the gun violence in 2021, in japan, one gun death, the entire
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year. of course the united states is larger, but look at the numbers. 45,000 gun deaths in 2021. there's a lot that the u.s. has exported in terms of culture from music to movies, but not gun violence. your thoughts today? >> right. well, you know, when i lived and worked in japan, there was never a moment that crossed my mind that i thought that gun violence could occur. most japanese people probably felt that way until this morning. and you know, it's not completely unheard of for japanese politicians to get attacked but usually it's with knives. there was one mayor in nagasaki in 2007 that got shot, but that was a gang incident. so the idea that political violence could be attached to the proliferation of guns is new, and scary, and unsettling and takes japan into a new era. the reason they haven't gotten there yet is because after world war ii, they were disarmed and
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there's a culture of pacifism that was implemented. you can't have a sharpened sword in japan without a lot of checks and balances, and that culture has provided japan with a measure of security and stability, and safety, and now all of those assumptions have to be re-examined, and you know, that's not a cultural thing, just a cultural thing, that's a policy decision and that's a politics decision, and you know, all i think we can say is, you know, thank god that this attacker didn't have an ar-15 because then it would be an even worse tragedy than it was today. >> nick, speaking about abe's relationship with the u.s., he appeared to be close to president obama. there were the historic trips to hiroshima and pearl harbor, and appeared to have a close relationship with president trump, and of course that's not an easy feat to be close to both, so tell us about his relationship with u.s. presidents. >> you know, i think his
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relationship with president trump tells us a huge amount about abe and how he was able to form so many relationships around the world. just to think about, you know, when he came to office in 2012. for the first two years in office, he visited almost 50 different countries. that was a huge number because he wanted to sort of internationalize japan and put it on the world stage and make it focused less on the region and more on more globally, and he built those strong relationships. he rent to indy. he was the first world leader to go to india for india's republic day. na r narinda modi, one of the first to send con ddolences. how did he touch them, and why have they come in droves. three former australian prime minister and the current australian prime minister as well all sending their
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condolences. his meeting and time with president trump is so instructive there. when president trump visited tokyo, prime minister abe instead of taking him out on the street for sushi or some japanese street food, he gave him a burger instead of doing some cultural japanese event. they went to play golf. when they were sitting having their burger, they exchanged baseball cards. all of these things were designed to create a good relationship with president trump. so when he needed something from the united states, he called up president trump, president trump answered. one of the world's most me curiel leaders at the time, abe had a good relationship with him. it tells a lot about how he was able to mold himself to have these strong relationships that were going to benefit japan, and the other countries that he was working with. and i think president macron in his condolences today sort of summed that up.
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abe worked to create a balance in the world, and there's a photograph that we all remember from that fractious g7, president trump is cross armed, because he doesn't want to sign the end of this. where is prime minister abe. look at that photograph, abe is standing there in the middle, with his arms crossed, just like president trump, a nonverbal cue, i'm with you. i'm like you, got my arms crossed and he's got his head on one side, i'm listening to you, angela merkel, he was in the middle between them, and i think he was able to straddle so many personal differences and it was to the strength of japan but to the strength of his allies, and that's why he and japan are so important to nato today, to the european union and to the united states, and to australia. >> really interesting. we'll look for that photo while we continue to talk so we can see exactly what you mean by that analysis, and so cecile, what changes now, how does the
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power dynamic shift in asia and beyond? >> yeah, so that's a good question. i just want to add something to what nick said. the reason that president trump was able, excuse me, prime minister abe was able to really swallow his pride and do whatever he needed to do to get close to trump and also stand next to him while president trump was insulting japan in multiple press conferences, it was really quite embarrassing and shocking to me. and prime minister abe did not respond because he had a vision that was more important than himself or his own personal pride or being right, and his vision was the need to bring like-minded countries in the world together in order to respond to a growing china and chinese military and other influence in the region. and so now the question is who steps in to fill that void. he hasn't been prime minister for a while, but he still carried enormous political power. in japan, he was still the king maker, and it was his protege
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who became prime minister and is now the sitting prime minister, and has been able to hold on to power, though with a little more difficulty than abe would have had, in part because abe was out working to make sure he could maintain power. one of the questions we all have to ask is who in japan, which again is the wealthiest, and in many ways the most powerful nation in china, other than asia, who's going to step einto that void. is prime minister, willing to sh show leadership abe was willing to show. what japan has lost is its king maker, in many ways, a one party country, but it really isn't one party because the party is in factions, the liberal democratic party has a lot of factions, and abe was able to keep everybody in line and moving in the same direction. the fear is with japanese politicians, once they get over the shock and sadness oever the
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days, will japan be able to maintain some level of continuity and ensure foot in this over the next few years or will they return to a different prime minister every year or 18 months. >> josh, i want to get your final thoughts, and we also did find that photograph now, so we can all look at that, exactly what you were talking about, how there is prime minister abe in the middle with his arms folded, as you said, nick, just sort of mirroring president trump, but looking at angela merkel somehow threading that needing. josh, your final thoughts. >> there's been a lot of talk today about how abe was known as a nationalist. and some people say he was a trump before trump. i think that's not accurate. i think that as that photo shows, abe was an internationalist as well. he believed in the multilateral system. he believed in alliances. he believed in shared responsibility to preserve the values of human rights, democracy and freedom, and the
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rule of law that under pins all of those rights as the key to japan's safety and security into ours, and in that sense, he was very very different from president trump, but the fact that they got along means that he also had diplomatic skill as well. so that's rare for a japanese leader. that's rare for any world leader, frankly, so his influence will be missed. >> thank you all so much for giving us this context, and jr. expertise, really interesting conversation. meanwhile, six hours, that's how long donald trump's former white house counsel pat cipollone has been testifying now before the january 6th committee. cipollone is considered a key witness and may provide critical insight into what trump was thinking and planning after losing the election. recent testimony placed him inside the room with the president as violence broke out on january 6th. joining me now to discuss is former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. andrew, great to have you here. what would be your top questions today for pat cipollone in.
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>> well, you know, there's so many questions for pat cipollone, and obviously that's happening, if he's in there for six hours plus, they're going deep, and it also tells us he's pandering a lot of questions, something people are concerned about. if i had the opportunity to talk to him, i'd have to follow up on some of the bomb shell revelations that we learned from cassidy hutchinson. for me, the most significant thing we learned from her was that trump knew that the crowd he was exhorting to go to the capitol was actually armed, so i'd focus on what he knew of trump's intention to go to the capitol himself, to go with the rioters, to somehow leave what was happening there, to find out from cipollone what trump's responses were when he learned about the riot on january 6th. as he sat in the room with him, as you mentioned, observing this whole thing on television, how
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did he react to that. these are really important questions to answer. the question i think that's been hanging over the january 6th committee hearings from the very beginning, which is what did the president intend with his actions and his inactions on january 6th. >> and as you know, pat cipollone's name has come up so many times during already these hearings, these january 6th hearings, so let me just play a few instances of that for you. >> pat cipollone thought the idea was nutty. >> pat expressed his admiration for the vice president's actions on the day of the 6th. >> mr. cipollone said something to the effect of please make sure we don't go up to the capitol, cassidy. keep in touch with me. we're going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. >> i mean, he's a central figure obviously. and there's a lot of questions about, you know, can he exert
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executive privilege. not all of those conversations were to donald trump. >> that's right. tha that's right. so there's essentially no privilege over the things he said, comments he made to cassidy hutchinson. obviously follow up is what did you mean, what were you worried about, what were the crimes you thought the president might be committing by going to the hill. why did you think those things were crimes. that's a definite area of inquiry. also i would point out the infamous meeting at the oval office on january 3rd with the representatives from the department of justice and of course jeffrey clark. you know, we've already had the doj reps testify about exactly what people said and how trump reacted to those things. the white house has waived executive privilege from those conversations. cipollone essentially has no privilege to waive, even about things he said to trump or he heard trump say in that crucial conversation. there's a lot of potential
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there. >> andy, while i have you, i want to ask you about this new video we've gotten about jeffrey clark, one of these doj officials whose home was raided and this is apparently a fairly early morning raid because he's not dressed. i think he's in pajama tops and underwear here. so just tell us your thoughts as you watch this video. >> yeah, you know, alisyn, this is hard to watch for anyone who's never seen this done as a part of the work that the fbi does. i can tell you that this is a standard process. fbi search warrants at residences typically take place early in the morning. you want to go ideally while people are asleep so that you're not catching them in the middle of some sort of activity that could create a danger. and typically, as soon as you get there, you remove those occupants from the house until the agents have an opportunity to clear, to walk through the house, to make sure there's no dan dangers no weapons, nothing like
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that that could put anybody in jeopardy. and so although this is shocking to see, i can tell you that from those videos it appears that from my experience, they did it the way fbi search warrants are typically done. it's pretty standard procedure. >> i appreciate you saying that because of course it is startling for the subject who gets the knock on the door, and it is obviously humiliating, but don't want you to go back in the house to take whatever devices or evidence they're looking for and hide it somehow. so i appreciate you saying that. >> that's true, and yeah, they don't have, you know, we'll treat the subject this way, that subject a different way, it's easier and more consistent for the agency to do it the same way to everyone. it's a horrible experience for the people being searched, but they try to be as careful and courteous as they can under a bad circumstance. >> andrew mccabe, thank you. >> so today's jobs report was a surprise in a very good way for the white house, and it's prompted them to celebrate, but
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hey! the white house is celebrating today's strong jobs report, but president biden says more work needs to be done. >> now, look, i know times are tough. prices are too high. families are facing a cost of living crunch. but today's economic news confirms the fact that my economic plan is moving this country in a better direction. we still have a lot of work to do. i'm not suggesting there's a lot more work to do. i am suggesting we're making significant progress. >> the u.s. added 372,000 jobs in june, outpacing expectations, the unemployment rate remained
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at 3.6%. let's bring in cnn's business correspondent, ra held solomon, what did economists expect and why is this better? >> economists expected 270,000 jobs adds, that would be the first time we've seen a number like that since april of 2021. we have seen strong jobs growth every month, and the unemployment rate has remained at 3.6% for the fourth month in a row. people are still getting jobs, and there's very strong demand for workers. the asterisk here is that wage growth continues to grow, which is great for workers who can now get more because there is so much demand for workers. in terms of where we saw jobs, well, it was broad-based, professional services, leisure and hospitality, health care, all sectors adding at least 50,000 jobs. some areas like the private sector, and manufacturing have completely recovered from the pandemic. here's the thing that economists are thinking about today in
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which we heard the fed talk about this incredible demand for workers right now. there are 1.9 open jobs for every one person who is looking for a job, and when you think about that, when there's so much demand for workers, you can ask for more money. you can ask for more wages, and that's great for the worker. the problem is that companies then tend to pass on higher labor costs into prices for consumers, and we are already dealing with inflation at 40-year highs. that starts to add to that, the inflationary pressure. and by the way, when inflation is as high as it is, wages are not keeping up, so imagine making more, but affording less. it's a vicious cycle which the fed knows and when we get reports like this that shows the job market is red hot, and not showing signs of significantly slowing, it makes the job of the fed as it's trying to slow demand, trying to slow the economy, much harder. >> thank you for explaining all of that. that made perfect sense. >> i'm so glad.
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the number of confirmed or suspected cases of monkeypox in the u.s. is now up to 700. this is according to the cdc. and in new york, which has the largest number of infections, the demand for the monkeypox vaccine is exceeding that state's supply. cnn affiliate, wabc saw people lined up around the block, as you can see here, new york city tried to assign appointments but the 2,500 doses were booked within minutes. let's bring in dr. ursula bower, new york's deputy commissioner for public health. deputy commissioner, thank you so much for being here. so is there enough vaccine to meet the demand in new york? >> there is not enough vaccine to meet the demand right now. we have an allocation that we are deploying as quickly as we can and we are looking forward to receiving more vaccine from
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the federal government within days and weeks. >> and how did we get behind the curve here? >> well, the vaccine that we have available was developed to treat smallpox. it's been approved for use in monkeypox, but we did not anticipate this current outbreak. and so there is simply not enough supply at this minute. >> i appreciate your candor about that because i remember when there was one case of monkeypox, and i remember that all of our medical experts said nothing to worry about, this is very rare, we're going to be able to contain this. now new york has 174 cases, and as i just said, across the u.s., 700 cases, so how concerning is this? >> we are concerned. i mean, you are right, alisyn, monkeypox is a rare viral infection. it doesn't usually cause severe illness. however, symptoms can be extremely painful and people may have permanent scarring from the
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rash. it's something that we are monitoring closely. we do have a vaccine. it's in very short supply. and we are getting that out as quickly as we can. >> are men who have sex with men still considered the most at risk? >> that is the community where the virus is currently circulating. anybody can get monkeypox. you get it through skin-to-skin contact, but that is the community where we're seeing the current outbreak. >> so would you advise a heterosexual person who spends time in crowded places or a woman to also get vaccinated? >> so we are prioritizing with this limited supply of vaccine people who have had exposure, skin-to-skin contact, intimate contact in places, in networks where monkey pox is circulating. we're not prioritizing the
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general population, but really focusing that limited supply of vaccine on those who need it most, and those are men who have sex with men, who have had a recent exposure within the last 14 days or so. >> so in other words, you're supposed to get the vaccine after an exposure, not before. >> with the limited supply that we have, yes, that's exactly how we're prioritizing. those who believe they have had a recent exposure. as vaccine becomes more available through the summer and into the fall, and into next year, we'll be able to expand our strategy. >> when does the federal government say it's going to be able to get you more vaccine supply? >> we should be able to order a limited supply early next week, and we plan to do that. we expect more vaccine to be made available toward the end of july. and even more toward the end of
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august. >> okay. dr. ursula bower, thank you very much for all of the information. i really appreciate it. well, the families who lost loved ones at uvalde elementary school last month are now speaking out after a report revealed that an officer had a chance to shoot the gunman but was not given the okay. cnn speaks to these devastated families next.
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uvalde's mayor is criticizing a new report about the police response to the robb elementary school shooting. he says the report does not give a full or accurate picture of what really happened. cnn crime and justice correspondent shimon prokupecz is in uvalde with more, so what exactly does the mayor think is wrong in this report? >> reporter: well, he says the way this report has it laid out, that a uvalde police officer had the gunman in his sights, sited him with his rifle and had the ability to take the gunman out is not accurate, saying the report, as you said, is not complete. he's taking issue in this line in this report saying this officer who could have taken the gunman out before he went into the school, you know, every day we cover this story there's
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something new that comes out, and for these families, this is what is so frustrating. they still have not gotten briefings from investigators about what happened at the school. but yet there are reports out there now, there's testimony from officials, and so this is what we talked to them about yesterday. i sat with almost 50 different family members yesterday, and this was one of the key things they were frustrated with. take a listen to some of what they said. >> just because of all the lies, the deceitfulness from the beginning, it was just like putting salt on an open wound. and it's just really hard because there's just so much suffering, and it's hard to grieve when there's no closure. >> reporter: when you say there's no closure, what are you looking for?
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>> i want people to be held accountable. we know that the shooter is dead. there's no one taking accountability. no one. >> reporter: your daughter. >> yes, sir. >> reporter: when you hear about some of the new information that's now come out, what are you thinking? >> they're pointing fingers, they did this, they didn't do that. i mean, not being in charge. whoever was there should have done their job and they didn't. you know, whether it was cowardice or -- they didn't follow the orders. i don't know, but i want to know. they should have gone in and stopped them. that was their training to stop an active shooter. that's the first thing they're supposed to do, and it's aggravating that they didn't do that. >> reporter: do you think the officers were cowards? >> that day, yes.
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i can't say all of them, but the ones that were in there, obviously they were, because they didn't do their job. >> reporter: i can't imagine what you're thinking as a police officer when you hear about these failures. >> i live in san antonio, it took me 50 minutes to get from san antonio to come here to uvalde, they took 77. i love my brothers in blue but it's just like any profession, this profession is not made for everybody. you know, it's fine and dandy, you know, you graduate from the academy, you get the badge but when it's time to suit up, when, you know, stare death in the face, you know, they went weak in the knees. >> one thing i do want is those officers that were in those hallways, i want them to resign. >> reporter: you want all of those officers gone that were in the hallway. >> yes. the minute i heard my mom is dead, i yelled out, i should have taken that bullet.
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because i'm in the military. i know what has to be done. i signed up for that. my mom protected those kids, but no one protected her. so the whole police department here are cowards. >> my daughter was a fighter. took a bullet to the heart, and still fought. she fought hard to stay alive. these cowards couldn't go in. >> reporter: and alisyn, that's the thing that's really top of mind for so many of the family
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members. you saw them sitting behind me, literally 50 different family members that we got a chance to talk to yesterday, all wondering why the police officers didn't go in sooner, all wondering what could have happened, you know, perhaps some of their families would have been saved but also the trauma, the trauma for the survivors, those kids, who survived, that had to stay in that room for more than an hour. acting like they were dead. just devastating, and the trauma that they will endure for the rest of their lives, and now this family, this community, these families, all they want are answers and they want accountability, as you heard there, and so the mayor, you know, i spoke to the mayor earlier until the week. he said there's likely going to be some changes. right now what he's focused onon, he says is getting answers because he's not getting answers, and like i said, every day we're learning new information here, and a lot of it contradictory, unfathomable and unbelievable. >> shimon, you have been there for weeks trying to get answers, and i really appreciate that. i know the community appreciates
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more accurate history of america. >> what did you say? here we go. race theory. critical race theory. what are your thoughts? >> you could teach to without an opinion. >> is it okay if a teacher says i think slavery was bad? >> no. >> no? >> what about this? nazis is not good. >> nothing is bad. >> if the latter is how you heard about it first, i am not surprised you are confused. which is why i grind my teeth when i sleep. >> who is manufacturing it? >> the democrats. it's always a race card. i get so sick of it. we need to teach children to compete. when the chinese probably know more about american history than we do. >> we should teach better american history here? >> yeah. >> slavery, genocide of native americans? >> no. >> not that stuff? >> not the whole thing. >> he is the coauthor of do the
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work and anti-racist activity book coming out july 19th. good to see you. >> good to be seen. >> you are tackling the concepts of critical race theory and woke. why didyou want to wade into th minefield? >> i think i was told to do it. >> that explains it. >> the news, maybe my boss told me to do it. i knew this was not going to be the most fun episode tore for me. it's easy to do it online, you could say the bots are not real. to talk to real people you can't say nazis are bad, it makes you feel crinkled in your brain. >> you were approaching this with an open hearted good spirit. >> i don't know how to do any other way. i have to have good spirit because that's the way the conversation goes. if i yell at them, they yell at me. productive things don't get done when everybody is yelling. >> what did you learn about what
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their concepts are or fears versus the truth? >> most people who do not -- who are anti-critical race theory and i'm doing the quote fingers couldn't define it for you. i define it and explain it if your elementary school student is learning about critical race theory you are raising a genius because critical race theory only happens in the upper levels of university and law schools. you don't have to be worried about that. >> you know what people -- people use it as a catchphrase. everything they don't like, which is i knew one kind of american history and now it seems like teachers are inserting this other bad stuff. >> concerning history. and bad stuff, stuff that doesn't make america look like we are always the hero. spoiler alert. we are not always the hero, #january 6th. if we are not -- we have to look at the whole history and not repeat it. i think smart people said that before me. >> i don't think so. okay. did you get anywhere with them? what did you come away with is?
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>> the thing i know is that there may be people in the show who don't come to an understanding but the people watching the show, even through the clips we have shown today are going, oh, i actually know what critical race theory is now. it's i would love to say the show is going to end the woke debate and critical race theory thing. i don't have that high hope any more. i have been broken the last couple of years. i believe it will make people's conversations smarter if they pay attention and watch the show. >> what else are you tackling? >> native people who want the land back literally, not figuratively. california wildfires. i live in northern california. that's a great concern to me. and an episode with lisa ling and other asian america people in media. >> i know her well. she is amazing. >> she has a career ah >> you discovered her though. d >> always great to s you. thank u r bringing us a preview. only here at 10:00 p.m.
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