tv New Day With John Berman and Brianna Keilar CNN July 12, 2022 5:00am-6:00am PDT
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>> witnesses will include writer stephen ayres, convicted for his role in the insurrection and he talked about civil war. a former spokesman for the keepers will also testify, pamela brown joins us from washington with more on what we can expect from this afternoon's hearing. can you tell us more about these witnesses? >> these witnesses are key for the committee to look at both keepers and proud boys and their involvement on january 6th, and how trump spurred on these people to go into the capitol building. stephen ayres, he's pleaded guilty to illegally entering the capitol building. he actually posted that tweet from trump where he called for
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people to come to the capitol building to protest the peaceful transfer of power think it'll be wild, stephen ayres posted that and said there will be a civil war. so you'll be testifying today, to the committee, also testified today is jason then, he's a former spokesperson and so proclaim propagandist for the both keepers. he will be providing testimony and we will see as we know from committee members, video clips from others including the former white house counsel, pat cipollone, who testified at length, last friday. >> and you've got some reporting on what he testified to. he was asked a lot of questions about a meeting that preceded this tweet? >> i reported on that meeting at the time, december 18th. this was a meeting when you had trump allies coming together with white house officials like pat cipollone and others, and basically there was a chaotic scene that ensued where you have the trump allies pushing the president to use his power to overturn the election results, to seize voting
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machines, to talk about martial law, to appoint sidney powell as special counsel. pat cipollone was one of the white house officials in the meeting pushing back. he expressed to the committee's view that this meeting was absolutely insane, and what the committee will do is try to be the picture of how that meeting happen and then hours later trump sent the tweet calling people to come to the capitol building and how that spurred on the events happening with the riots. >> joining us now former federal prosecutor and lead counsel on former president trump's first impeachment daniel goldman. he's not running for congress in new york. thank you for being with us. if you are asking the questions in public, and you've been there in this type of setting, what would you seek to do, in terms of connecting the actions of these extremist groups to
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the trump circle? >> what, i think there's a difference in doing this in a trial and a difference in doing this in the hearing today. if you wanted to show that donald trump intended to incite a rowdy, if not violent, protest , what you would want to do is show all of the different thinly veiled statements that he made to his supporters in the months and years preceding this tweet, so you could show that he knew what he was doing and he knew how his supporters would react. i think what we are going to want to see today, is a, what happened in the meeting, and whether there is any witness testimony about what donald trump said to others, prior to tweeting that, or around tweaking that. did he have an intention behind his tweet. what we will then get is how the tweet was interpreted by
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the people who received it. that is very compelling evidence because it goes to show that all right, we know this guy. we know how he speaks. he speaks in code, he speaks like a mob boss but when he tells us, the proud boys to, to stand up and standby, we know that a clarion call to us to get ready, and this is the order for us, having been ready now, to go and actually go into action. so i will want to see on both ends of things. what do we know, what witness testimony is there about what trump intended to do by the tweet and how was it interpreted, and why was it interpreted that way from the oath keepers and the proud boys? >> we see the narrative that is already going to take place this afternoon, connecting this meeting to this tweet, to the
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violence, but daniel, the legal peril is such a different thing. that'll be very difficult. tell us why, getting just from the narrative to some sort of legal culpability on the part of donald trump is so hard? >> as you can imagine, it's one thing if the recipient of the tweet says i interpreted it this way, but if donald trump could say, oh, well he interpreted that way but that wasn't the way i intended it, and he has to intend for it to have the impact that it does, in order for there to be the heightened criminal liability, but that's why in a trial, you would want to show a pattern and practice of him making statements like this, and then watching as his supporters reacted violently. so you could then show, he's done this before, and they've reacted violently, so he now knows that when he says something like this in a thinly veiled way, he actually does intend for them to react as they did react.
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that is circumstantial evidence and it's absolutely admissible in trial. it's usually how intent is proved, so it's difficult but in donald trump's case, we have years of examples of him doing this, and of watching the reaction. and then, i would throw in the statement he made, i forgot to, but he said well, i guess you don't pay as close attention to the internet as i do. which means, that he knows what is going on, online, he knows how people are talking about what he says and how it's being received. that could be also a very powerful piece of evidence. >> so you have keepers and proud boys over here. you've got donald trump here, and then you've got roger stone and michael flynn, here. how do you handle that. what is important to do in terms of connecting these three? >> the connective tissue between the oath keepers and proud boys and trump, meadows,
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the white house, city powell, steve bannon, et cetera, is probably going to be roger stone who we know, hired domestic violence extremist to be his security around january 5th and january 6th, and they were at the war room at the willard hotel and we know from cassidy hutchinson that mark meadows wanted to go to the war room on january 5th, so what i expect to see is all of those lengths from the white house to the willard to the proud boys and oath keepers and if they can make a compelling case that this was all one coordinated effort, coordinated attack, then, all of a sudden, what you get is the white house, direct connected to the riot, the rioters on january 6th. this was part of a larger plan to overthrow the election. and i think the committee needs to make sure that that is
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always front and center. donald trump was trying in any way to overthrow the election and by jen december -- december 14th is the day that they were certified. so the legal recourse was over. this was now a function of a cool, that we are now in a coup period from december 14th to january 6th. and so that is going to be why this meeting on december 18th, the tweet on december 18th and ultimately the willard hotel and the days leading up to january 6th are going to be so important to connect donald trump's to effort to what happened on january 6th. >> with today's hearing set to focus on the role of the oath keepers, joining me now is tosha adams, the ex-wife of the oath keepers founders stuart
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rhodes who is awaiting trial of seditious conspiracy charges for his role in all of this, tosha thank you for being with us. it's nice to see you again. one of the witnesses today will be jason van tot, i hope i'm saying that right. what story do you think he has to tell about the oath keepers? >> i think if he sticks with what is in his wheelhouse, the history of the oath keepers, his participation and it in an honest way, i think it could be helpful. he was out there with the guys, if he tries to hold onto this idea that he was somehow not a part of oath keepers like i've read in some of his pieces, that he was just an embedded reporter, or he completely left oath keepers in 2016, that's not really accurate. but he does have a lot of history with oath keepers and he definitely overheard a lot of the talk and the types of
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things i was not exposed to and i think as long as he sticks with that, it could be very useful. >> to be clear, no one is suggesting he was anywhere near washington, d.c. on january 6th, he wasn't involved in any way, it has more to do with the history of the oath keepers and who they are. you saw it all firsthand. her ex-husband was the founder of the oath keepers. what is it that america needs to know about stuart and about the oath keepers? >> it's a dangerous group, he's a man that should not be given a platform that's huge. i know he wanted to speak to america live, primetime, that's not something that should happen. he has a very persuasive manner of speak. he knows how to wow a crowd, he grew up, earning speaking
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techniques from ministers, and motivational speakers, and he studies body language and group hypnosis, and uses those techniques on people, so it's really important that is not given a platform to, you know, keep talking. >> you are talking about the idea that the january 6th committee, he has volunteered to testify publicly and you are warning against giving him not voice. based on what you know of stuart in the past. if he were to see a tweet from donald trump, like the one he issued, january 6th, come to the protest, it will be wild, what would his likely response have been when you knew him? >> he would have seen that as a go ahead. he would have seen secret underlying signals, whether they were there or not, that it's going to be okay. as long as they keep the former
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president in office. no matter what happens, as long as they are loyal to him, it's all going to be okay. >> tell me more about what that means. in the past, you've described stuart as someone who is very smart, as the type of person who wouldn't necessarily do something like this, unless he thought he could get away by that. >> is very calculated, he's a graduate of yale law school. he's very careful about legal minds, and i just don't believe that he would have done something you know, it's so obvious that something like this could wind up landing a person in prison. i don't think he would have taken that risk. if he had been given some type of go-ahead that it would be okay and in the end, whether it be a part or
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, i'm just not sure. but i feel like he felt like he was going to get away with this, one way or another. and i think he is still betting on that. >> you think he thinks he can get away with it, how? if donald trump runs and wins? >> yes. i think, the way that he, stewart is speaking so publicly, and behaving in a way that any defense attorney would have pulled her hair out over, he's giving interviews, weekly, he's using his 10 minute call every week to go to the live and conservative media circles, he's talking, talking, talking. and i think it's because he's given up on the idea of reducing his sentence in any way. he's thinking only of acquittal or a pardon. >> i'm gonna let you run but i know you've been watching a lot
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of these january 6th hearings. what do you think they show the american people? >> i think they've done an excellent job of getting the information out there to the masses, just from both sides. here are the fact that what really happened. there are people out there, in the town that voted 73% donald trump 2020, and because of the algorithms that they are reading other social media, there are people that didn't know until a few weeks ago that windows were broken on january 6th. they just didn't know, and they are shocked. so i think it's been an excellent tool for getting a really good summary out there of what really happened. >> tosha adams, thank you for being with us this morning. newly classified intelligence in the case of that iran is set to supply russia with hundreds of armed drones. how this could change the
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these drones. joining us is national security coordinator for strategic communications at the white house, john kirby. thanks for being with us this morning. >> happy to be here. >> when we are looking about this news about the drones. how will that change russia's capability right now in ukraine? >> drone capability can help you with your surveillance and reconnaissance, obviously, drones have the offensive capability. they can deliver munitions, they can sometimes be munitions. i think it was important to make it clear to the world, that we know that russia k, needs these additional capabilities, they are expanding their resources at an accelerated rate and b, that there leaning toward a nation like iran, a nation that hasn't condemned their invasion, hasn't tried to put pressure on mr. putin's warmaking machine.
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>> is ukraine going to have enough drones to counter russia getting this many more drones from iran? >> one is not a drone versus drone war, it's not like you need to have numerical parody. it depends on what these are used for. we provided hundreds of uab's to ukraine. we certainly will roll out additional capabilities. it's all the capabilities taken in sum, given the kind of fighting they are doing in the donbas region. last friday, we announced another four of these high mars, high mobility advanced rocket systems, as well as counter boundary raiders. and allows them to better fight the war in the donbas region. the only thing i would add is
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it's not just the united states, some 50 other nations are committing some level of assistance to ukraine. >> beyond that, does this change anything in terms of what the you as will need to commit to ukraine, in the future, to balance out this commitment by iran? >> john, can you hear me? all right, i think we are having a technical difficulty with john kirby, we are going to take a quick break and try to reestablish our connection with him. we will be right back. and ad vice can n help you build a future for the ones you love. that's the value of ownership. 80% of couples sleep too hot or too cold. because quality sleep is vital, the sleep number 360 smart bed is temperature balancing, so you botstay cool. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sep per night. save 40% on the sleep number 360 specl edition smart bed queen now only $1,499.
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our efforts to continue to support ukraine. we have to see exactly how the russians move forward here with the iranians on the uavs, how many they use, i do want to add, that we continue to want to see a nuclear deal that takes iran's nuclear weapons ambitions off the table. and there is a deal on the table, the onus is on iran to accept it. iran continues to isolate themselves from the international community and they continue their destabilizing activity in the region. another reason that this trip that the president is on, is so important. >> we see the publisher of the washington post, fred ryan, obviously questions about the death of jamaal khashoggi are hanging over the president's
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visit to saudi arabia but he says this erodes america's world authority, how is he wrong? >> i think the president has been very clear, from a very early stage, in the beginning of his administration, about what happened to mr. jamaal khashoggi. he made public the until communities report about that at issued a series of visa bands, more than 75 times, he sanctioned key saudi officials. he's been nothing but clear about his deep concerns, our deep concerns about what happened. but he also said that we want to reorient this relationship with saudi arabia, not rupture it. it's a key place in the nation, we often have a need to deal with them, and to communicate on like issues on counterterrorism, there's an
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awful lot of energy security, there's an awful lot on the agenda for the president as he gets ready to leave for the region and american leadership in the region still matters. we have convening power, we have influence and the president is looking forward to face-to-face diplomacy to advance that influence. >> the biden administration is considering lifting its ban on offensive weapon sales to saudi arabia. is there any way that could be done with saudi arabia not ending it's offensive in yemen, and what would the effectiveness be, in the hopes of the biden administration when it comes to saudi arabia and oil? >> i don't have any announcements to make about the offensive weapons. i would note, and it's important for people to remember, we are now on a second extension of the cease- fire in yemen.
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the longest period of peace, almost 4 months now, inside of seven years, so thousands of lives have been saved by the cease-fire, that's because of our engagement with leaders in saudi arabia. i know the president is looking forward to having that part of the agenda when we go. >> palestinian journalist, was killed in the west bank in may as you are aware of. likely, by an israeli bullet. that's according to american findings. her family is demanding a meeting with president biden on this trip. is open to that? >> i don't have any meetings to speak to you today. i would just say a couple of things, first, our thoughts and prayers continue to go to the family. we understand the grief and suffering they are experiencing and we also understand their strong desire for answers. we shared that desire for
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answers, that's why we wanted this to be completely fully thoroughly investigated. we know that they still have concerns. and we have stayed in touch with the family and secretary blake and has as well. so i don't have any meetings to discuss today but i can tell you the president estate laser focus on her case and making sure that we continue to stay in touch with the family and get answers for them. >> can you tell us what the goal is of governor richardson's visit that's coming up to russia, what is he hoping to achieve? >> i'll let the governor speak to himself. as jake sullivan said yesterday, we are in frequent communication with governor richardson, and i would tell you, as jake said yesterday, we definitely are interested in government to government contact with russia, to try to secure the release of whitney greiner, paul whelan, and frankly, all americans that are
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unjustly detained around the world. >> john, we appreciate you being with us, john kirby with us from the white house, thank you. >> you bet. growing calls for the manhattan district attorney to drop a murder charge against a bodega clerk after police that he fatally stabbed a man who went behind his counter and pushed him. erica hill joins us. >>" calls are growing louder in the wake of surveillance video. >> a deadly stabbing captured on surveillance video, albert was working at an upper manhattan bodega on july first when police that he got into a fight with another man. according to a criminal complaint, a woman tried to buy a snack for her daughter, her payment card was declined. she told police alba reached
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over the counter and grabbed her daughters had to get the item back. the new york post obtained surveillance video of the incident and reported the woman is heard saying, quote, my letter and word is going to come down here and f you up. the woman left but then later returned to the store with her boyfriend, austin simon. the criminal complaint as simon went behind the counter and push the bodega clerk. alba told him simon wanted him to apologize to the girl. surveillance video shows time simon attempted to steer the clerk out of the area behind the counter and the complaint states that alba, quote, picked up a kitchen knife that was test behind the counter and stabbed mr. simon in the neck and chest, at least five times. it goes on to say simon's girlfriend took a knife from her purse, and stabbed alba who suffered a wound to his arm. police say simon died later that evening of stab wounds to his neck and torso. officers arrested alba on july second. he's charged with one count of second-degree murder and has been released on $50,000 bond.
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partially secured by the owners of the bodega. the case, reigniting the debate over self-defense laws in new york. on sunday, the united bodegas of america announced the organization is expected to meet with the manhattan strict attorney's office, to urge prosecutors to drop alba's murder charge. mayor adams, has voiced support for alba as well. >> my heart goes out for the hard-working, honest new yorker, that was doing his job in his place of business, where a person came in and went behind the counter and attacked him. my heart goes out to that employee, who was in the store, doing his job. and so, i am hoping that we take all of that into consideration, as this hard-working new yorker was doing his job, and someone aggressively went behind the counter to attack him. so the da has his job.
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>> we are expected to hear more from the da later today. i want to point out that cnn has reached out to alba, trying to get more information but at this point he has not yet entered a plea. his next scheduled to be in court on july 20th. so, it looks like the sky does have its limits, why the uk's biggest airport is now telling airlines to stop selling tickets. >> did china take our good air and swap it with their bad air? the confounding new claim by republican senate candidate herschel walker.
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of us, look at the stock performance, during the pandemic, a lot of us were stuck in the house, a lot of us guilty estrich, but a peloton but as the world open, we went back to the gym. last quarter sales tumbled 15% from a year ago. so the company is trying to turn itself around but it's clearly proving to be quite difficult. the ceo saying, turnarounds are hard work and we believe however that this along with other initiatives will enable us to continue reducing the cost burden on the business. it's a tough right, no pun intended. >> what are they? the videos and descriptions? >> they do make a lot of their money from subscriptions, the monthly fee that you pay to continue doing it. apparently it's too expensive for them to continue making the hardware, the equipment, so they will outsource that and hopefully be able to bring in
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enough for subscriptions and their trainers are celebrities, there is that draw, the celebrity trainers, but it's unclear if this is going to be enough to stop the hemorrhaging of cash and testers don't seem pleased. the stock is at nine dollars, compare that to 95% off its high . >> i'm still addicted to mine. i don't think i've ever heard anything like this before which is heathrow, the big airport in london, is telling airlines not to sell any more tickets? >> for a time period, so heathrow airport is essentially saying that from july 11th to september 11, they have a maximum capacity of 100,000 passengers departing from its airport, essentially saying to the airlines, we are putting you on notice, we can handle 100,000 passengers, essentially saying they have tried to recruit and hire ground handlers
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but especially for ground handlers, they don't have the capacity, it's taking time to get people up to speed, so they are trailing at about 4000 excess each day, so they are at about 100,000 seats per day so they have to figure out what to do about that 4000 figure. about 1500 daily sleep have been sold, so they are saying to the airlines, figure it out, we can only get 100,000 people out of the airport, do not sell any more tickets until at least september 11th but we talk about it a lot on the show, a lot of issues we've been dealing with here, as americans trying to fly, our european counterparts are dealing with as well and it sounds like a lot worse. >> increased flight prices? >> i don't know, at least until september 11th, they just don't want to get people out of the airport, they are trying to get through the summer travel season as much as they can
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that usair pollution exceeded w.h.o. guidelines by 2 to 3 times but walker's argument is that since our good air decides to float over to china, that it's pointless for the u.s. to do more to reduce air pollution. >> the senate race that herschel walker is in the middle of is one of the most closely watched in the country. joining us now is cnn political director and host of the cnn briefing podcast, our friend, david, sir, the georgia senate race. >> this is one of the marquee matchups of the cycle. raphael warnock, the senator who is a democrat, versus herschel walker, the latest polls show warnock has a significant lead over walker but there's very little polling there. this is going to be a close contest. the question is, is
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walker ready for prime time, just yesterday's campaign announced an entire revamping of the strategic team around him, they realize, things aren't going quite as they had hoped. but brought them out beyond georgia, i want to show you here the senate map, these are friends of -- and here is something i think that's very important for folks to pay attention to. if you just look at the tossup races, or the lightly shaded pink and blue, the races, you've got nevada, arizona, wisconsin, pennsylvania, north carolina, and of course, georgia, one of the true tossup's, and new hampshire. these are your main races, and they are almost all playing on democratic turf, only north carolina of all of those states is a state that donald trump won in 2020 so while the political environment is bad for democrats, clearly, the senate map is not as bad as
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just the political environment may suggest. >> nationally, the president's approval ratings are not very good. they are pretty dismal right now. how is that playing into this? >> this was the right word. take a look at our latest poll of joe biden's approval rating, he is down to 38%. this is an average of a bunch of high quality polls. this is the number that is just your danger territory for democrats on the ballot even though job joe biden is not on the ballot. and look at this, according to the new york times, the siena poll that came out just yesterday. when it rakes down by party, because if you look here among democrats and add together the strongly and somewhat, he's only at 70% approval among his own party. that is a treacherous warning sign for democrats. that's something that's making this environment so tricky and if you look at the right track
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this doesn't necessarily mean that's a bad sign for democrats but i think what's a bad sign is across the board the entire electorate in a toxic mood and never good for the party in power. >> you had the map up showing where the senate races will play this fall and it is democratic turf but they have to play defense on the turf. which races are the most vulnerable for democrats? >> here are the four incumbent vulnerable democrats. georgia, arizona, new hampshire and in nevada. take a look at the matchups against the republicans. we have had the primaries in nevada. we mentioned herschel walker.
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in new hampshire and arizona, mitch mcconnell didn't get them. we are waiting to see which republicans emerge. folks since that decision in the dobbs case overturning roe v wade leaned into abortion rights as a calling card to rally the democratic base in these blue leaning states. they see that as a path forward to withstand the overall environment. >> what republican incumbents are you watching? >> john in wisconsin running for re-election. we don't know the democrat yet. pat toomey is retiring but oz versus fetterman is a marquis
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matchup to watch. this is a opportunity that democrats see to flip a couple se seats but the idea is no easy task. >> you mentioned "the new york times"/sienna poll. the times released new numbers this morning. people can see and this shows former president trump in a primary with ron desantis. >> i think that we are going to spend the next several months to figure just how much power does donald trump have inside the party. what we see here and saw in a cnn polling earlier this year, should he be the nominee or not? half the republican party said yes and no. donald trump clear leader in this republican hypothetical
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horse race and desantis the threat in double digits there. you look at half -- more than half of republicans in this poll don't want donald trump. one thing, the way to win a republican nomination is winner takes all. donald trump need 70%. if there's a crowded field remember 2015, 2016. he can win and scoop up the delegates so it's not clear yet if donald trump has taken on so much damage with the party he won't be a factor should he choose to run. >> exactly. interesting that he is not at 50% and doesn't necessarily need to be. david chalian, thank you so much. >> thank you. a huge wildfire spreading in yosemite national park. crews racing to protect the
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happening now, fire crews in yosemite national park are racing to control a wild fire that's increased more than 2700 acres and threatening 500 giant sequoia trees. as you can see fire crews installed a sprinkler system to protech them. cnn's nick watt is joining us live from yosemite. we can see the smoke. what is the latest on the fire? >> reporter: right now, they are dealing with a slow-moving fire kicking off intense heat and a lot of smoke. over the weekend a branch got lifted so high up into the air by the updraft when it full back
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down it narrowly missed hitting two aircraft involved in fighting the fire. how much smoke? there is an air quality advisory in the san francisco bay area which is more than 200 miles away. this is when the fire activity is about at the lowest between now and this afternoon. the temperature will pick up by 30 degrees and the fire becomes much more intense. the humidity here is very, very low. so that means that the intense burning continues after dark and into the night. now, the numbers right now they are saying it is 22% contained, down a little bit from yesterday afternoon. dealing with issues out to the east of the fire but the key number is 545, how many firefighters they have on the ground here. flooded the zone with firefighters because there isn't much other fire tactivity in
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california and they did a great job why they say they're confident of the plan to save the trees. they do not expect those trees to come under any danger again from the fire. fingers crossed. >> thank you. cnn's coverage continues right now. ♪ good tuesday morning to you. >> good morning, everyone. the january 6 committee will hole the seventh public hearing zeroing in on president trump's last-ditch effort to hold on to power why the panel is expected to show how right wing extremist groups prepared to attack the u.s. control leading up to january 6.
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