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-- captions by vitac -- ♪ hello, everyone, i'm alisyn camerota, welcome to "cnn newsroom." >> i'm victor blackwell, good to be with you. at least 23 people, including 3 children, are dead after a russian cruise missile attack in the ukrainian city of vinisya. more than 50 buildings were damaged. ukrainian officials believe the missiles were launched by russian submarines in the black sea. ukrainian president zelenskyy called this an act of russian terror. cnn's scott mclean is in
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vinnitsya for us. give us the latest at this hour. >> reporter: this is across the street from the blast site. this streetcar, you can see all the windows are blown out. they're trying to figure out how they're going to move it, if it still runs at this stage and how they're going to get it out of here. i'll take you over here. this is called the house of officers. it is actually a concert venue, a theater. it's obviously from the soviet era, quite old. this building was completely gutted on the inside. we can actually walk past the lawn, and you can see inside, bits of it. they are still -- at least they were a few minutes ago -- still hosing down parts of it, some of the hottest spots. they're trying to dismantle parts of it. i want to take you over here for one second. people have started to lay flowers here, stuffed animals as well, and the reason why is because earlier in the day, there was a photo that was put out by the foreign minister and other officials showing a
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stroller and a girl's body next to it. this is the spot where that stroller was. we were here when they took it away as a piece of evidence. we know that the girl who was killed is just 3 years old. her name is lisa. her mother was with her. her name's iryna. we understand she was badly injured. she's in the hospital right now, fighting for her life. i'll take you over here quickly. so, across the street from the theater, this is an office building, and you can see there's only maybe four or five windows that have been spared the force, just the sheer kinetic energy of this blast. it completely blew out the front side of this building. i've actually spoken to some people who were inside at the time, and it's remarkable that they are alive. it's just sort of the angle of the blast that managed to shield them from most of the shrapnel. i also spoke with a man --
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you'll have to come a little bit closer to show you, but i also spoke with a man who was actually outside of the building, using the cash machine there. using the atm machine, and that little hood that you see around it, he shielded himself inside from the full force of the blast, and remarkably, he only has a cut on him. he says that he's lucky to be alive, for obvious reasons. i'll show you this year quickly. if you're wondering, this is a monument to the ukrainian air force. you can see the firefighters here are working to get rid of all the debris. this is the part of the building that really took the brunt of one of the missile strikes. you can see it's obviously been burned. it's obviously shielded. a lot of the rest of the building from the worst of this. and i can't let you go without showing you two other things quickly. first off, here is where they're dismantling the theater. this was the epicenter of one of
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the missile strikes. they're starting to pull down the wall, which is why it's a bit dusty around here. and then, victor and alisyn, this is the other crater from the missile strike. remember, this is an asphalt parking lot, so you can imagine just how much force it would take to create that kind of a crater, that size of a crater, in a place like this. apologies for the noise. they're just trying to clean it up. it's been 10, 11 hours since the actual blast took place, and it's remarkable how quickly they're working to try to get this back in order. vinnitsya, keep in mind, is not close to the front lines. people here, they obviously heard the sirens, but around 10:15, 10:45 is when those missiles actually hit. some people were sheltering, but surely, given where we are right now, a lot of people, we know, chose to go on with their lives because they didn't expect this to happen here.
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>> scott, it's incredible to have you in vinnitsya for us to walk us around and show us the breadth of the devastation. it's incredible, looking at that scene, that anybody survived. >> to wait under that hood of the atm and that was enough. it is miraculous that that man survived at all with just a cut, as scott reported. >> skcott mclean, thank you ver much for being there. back here in the u.s., yet another sign that prices are still soaring. the producer price index jumped from 11.3% in june -- this is compared to last year. that's higher than economists predicted. stocks are down after the news. >> cnn business correspondent rahel solomon is with us now. yesterday, we got the consumer price index number, 40-year high there. significance of this and what this means for the fed. >> the significance of this, which doesn't tend to get a lot of attention but these days certainly has taken on a heightened importance. this is factory-level inflation, what companies and businesses are experiencing, so with know that companies are experiencing,
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we tend to see trickle down in the prices that we pay as consumers. in terms of what this means for the fed, this is the second back-to-back hot inflation report. about a week ago, half a percent to 0.75% was the expectation heading into the federal reserve meeting. after we got that really hot jobs report, which signalled that demand for workers is still quite strong, quite robust, supply, not as much, and then you get two hot inflation reports that suggest that inflation is broadening, it's widening, it is not abating. it certainly means that the fed is going to have to do more rather than less and now there are questions of, might we see a full percentage point at that meeting in two weeks? one fed official yesterday was asked about that very thing. he said, everything is in play. >> what's happening with mortgage rates? they're down, they're up, what's happening? >> they're certainly up this year. at the beginning of the year they were at 3%. right now, closer to a 5.5% for an average 30-year but they had
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gone up as high as 6% so mortgage rates are very sensitive to the fed's benchmark rate. it doesn't set mortgage rates but it influences them, which is why we've seen rates increase the way they do as it gets ahead of what the fed is doing. this spells affordability issues. i mean, prices for homes are still, on average, at least 15% higher than they were a year ago, and borrowing costs have continued to go up. by the way, as the fed continues to raise rates, borrowing costs continue to go up. i asked a few officials today, in the housing market, what they expect for mortgage rates. the smart minds think maybe they'll sort of settle in the fall. they're still going up. and likely will this year. >> wow, rahel solomon, thank you. a grand jury has indicted a former prominent attorney in south carolina on murder charges for the killing of his wife and son. maggie and paul murdaugh were found shot to death last june. investigators say alex says he called 911 after he found their bodies. >> cnn's dianne gallagher is in
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south carolina following this story for us. so, dianne, how did they link him to their deaths? >> reporter: yeah, well, so alisyn, on june 7, 2021, as you said, alec called 911, saying that he had found the bodies of his wife and son on their property about half an hour from here. he said they were on the ground outside there. today, 13 months later, a grand jury actually in that courthouse right there behind me indicted him in their murders. they said that they essentially also alleged that he is the one who pulled the trigger in these murders. of course, that is plural. there are very few details in these indictments, but what they do say, and allege, is that murdaugh shot his 52-year-old wife, maggie, with a rifle and his 02-year-old son, paul, with a shotgun. alec murdaugh's attorneys released a statement shortly after the indictments came down saying, alec wants his family
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and friends to know he had nothing to do with the murders of maggie and paul. it was very clear from day one that law enforcement and the attorney general prematurely concluded that alec was responsible but we know that alec did not have any motive whatsoever to murder them. we are immediately filing a motion for a speedy trial. they did indicate they'd like to have that trial in 90 days. of course, murdaugh is currently in jail on financial and insurance-related fraud charges, some 70 charges related to crimes like that at this point on a $7 million bond. there was also the initial arrest of alex murdaugh, which is related to that failed suicide for hire insurance fraud scheme, and then there are the three deaths in addition to maggie and paul where investigations have been opened or reopened that are connected in some way to the murdaugh family orbit. now, alex murdaugh, once a
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prominent attorney here in the low cup area, was disbarred by the south carolina supreme court this week as well and i want to finish by saying something the chief law enforcement chief ended his statement with today when he announced these indictments. he said, "today is one more step in a long process for justice for maggie and paul." again, no details as to exactly what did link them. we do have sources that tell cnn's randi kaye that there was blood splatter on clothing and there also may be a recording that was found on paul murdaugh's phone, but according to these indictments, at this point, they can just simply link alex murdaugh to shooting his wife and his son. >> it's amazing in some ways that it took so many months to get to this point. dianne gallagher, thank you very much for all that reporting. it's day two of president biden's high-stakes middle east trip and ahead of traveling to saudi arabia, the president will not give a clear answer on how he will address jamal khashoggi's murder. we're live in jerusalem next. and we have new information about that 10-year-old rape
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so, kaitlan, president biden also talked about the next leg of his trip to saudi arabia. do we know if he plans to confront the crown prince about the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. >> reporter: not based on anything that president biden himself said, because he was asked about this specifically. it wouldn't be that much of a surprise if this was a position that he would take, given, of course, the strong language that he used on the campaign trail about how he felt about jamal khashoggi's murder, saying it was a flatout maurder and sayin that he vowed to make saudi arabia a pariah because of what happened. that is why there's so much focus on this trip. it's not because past presidents have not had relationships with them. it's because of his comments previously. he has put human rights at the center of his foreign policy. he said so himself. so he was asked today, of course, whether or not he is directly going to bring this up with the saudi crown prince when he comes face-to-face with him just 24 hours from now. the president wouldn't expolicely say yes, that he
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would, but he said why he believes he's going to saudi arabia and why this trip is important. >> i'm meeting with nine other heads of state. it's not -- it just happens to be in saudi arabia. so there are so many issues at stake. i will bring up -- i always bring up human rights. i always bring up human rights. but my position on khashoggi has been so clear. if anyone doesn't understand it in saudi arabia or anywhere else, then they haven't been around for a while. >> reporter: of course, victor and alisyn, as you could hear there, that was not an explicit yes from the president. it was more, my position is known on this, seeming to make the argument that he doesn't nie necessarily need to bring it up. oil production is one of the number one things they will be discussing, though the white house has been downplaying whether or not president biden is going to walk away from this trip with any concrete commitments from the saudis to pump more oil. >> thank you very much for that
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reporting. let's bring in bobby gosh. if president biden is saying he has a lot of agenda items in sa saudi arabia, including oil, do you expect that he will bring up jamal khashoggi? >> if he does, i think it would be in the most perfunctory way possible, just to tick a box. i don't think there's going to be deep conversation about it. i think just as the saudis know his position, he knows the saudis' position, and neither side is really going to change on the basis of one face-to-face visit between the president and the crown prince. so, if it comes up, i think it will only be in passing. it's not going to be at the top of the agenda. i doubt either side will push very hard. >> is there something lost by the president not directly confronting mbs or the assessment or bring up the assessment from the intel community that he was responsible for that murder? >> well, the problem, of course,
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is that if you do, then what? what are the consequences of bringing that up? what price are you expecting the saudis to pay for this? the president made the mistake of, one time already, to paint himself into the corner by promising to make a pariah out of saudi arabia. the whole country. and then failing to follow through on that promise. i don't think, as a career politician, i don't think he's going to make that mistake twice. if he brings it up, if he pushes too hard on it, then there's pressure on him to act on his principles. if he's not able to act, and we know he's not, for all kinds of reasons, if he's not able to act on his principles, it makes no sense to raise them over and over again. >> bobby, let's talk about the strategy with iran. so, president biden would like to revive the iran nuclear deal that president trump had kiboshed. is that likely to happen? is that possible? >> it's looking less and less likely all the time.
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the u.s. has put its offer on the table. the americans think it's a very good deal. the europeans agree it's a very good deal. the iranians aren't interested. they keep adding new demands to the negotiations, which suggests to me that they're not very serious about getting this deal. it suggests to me that they are much more comfortable to keep building up their uranium stockpiles to increase their leverage to frighten the neighbors and blackmail the rest of the world. there's not a lot of seriousness from the iranian side. president biden came to office making the return of this deal a high priority. he has shown incredible good faith for a very long time with the iranians. they're not showing any good faith in return. it's very hard to be optimistic that there's going to be a deal, certainly not any time soon. >> let me ask you about the reception from the palestinians. palestinians dissatisfied by the u.s. response to the killing of
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palestinian american journalist. u.s. determined that she was likely killed by the idf, but they could not conclusively say that the bullet came from a specific weapon. what's the line he has to walk in east jerusalem? >> well, he knows what the palestinians are expecting from him, and he can't deliver that either. he knows that the palestinian want a full-throated criticism of israel from the american president. no american president has ever successfully done that. no reason to believe joe biden will either. i think the optics are not great that it was only as biden was about to arrive in jerusalem that the biden administration invited shireen's family to come see the u.s. government in washington. if that was the only invitation that was available, surely that's an invitation that could have been done some time ago. so, because the invitation was delivered so late, it feels a
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little bit like the administration and the presidency is reacting, rather than taking proactive steps. we have to remember, shireen was an american citizen. she was an american citizen who was shot dead in a foreign country. plenty of evidence suggesting -- evidence gathered by lots of credible american news organizations as well as nonprofit -- beg your pardon -- human rights organizations. a lot of evidence points in the direction of israel. it's not satisfactory. it's not sufficient for the president at this late stage, not to confront that directly. >> all right, bobby ghosh, thanks for the analysis. few more days of this trip. thank you, bobby. we've some breaking news right now just in to cnn. a federal grand jury has just indicted the accused buffalo supermarket shooter on 27 counts. that includes 14 hate crime charges and 13 firearms charges. >> so, that 19-year-old suspect is accused of opening fire at a grocery store, killing ten black
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people, injuring three others. let's go now to cnn's athena jones. what's the u.s. attorney general saying about this indictment? >> reporter: hi, victor and alisyn. i just want to let you know that we are here at the very beginning, the ceremony just began. they are preparing to reopen this tops supermarket behind me for the first time since the horrific mass shooting two months ago and that's what's going on behind me. as you mentioned, accused of killing ten black people, targeting them, purposely coming to this supermarket because it's in a black neighborhood, having planned this attack for years. among those federal charges, ten counts of hate crimes resulting in death, three counts of hate crimes involving attempt to kill. he injured three people and did not kill them. as well as a hate crime charge count alleging -- and attempting to kill additional black people in the store. that's something that one of the tops employees i spoke with wanted to see. she was concerned that she felt targeted and yet this suspect was not being charged in her
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killing. so, we have here the authorities from the supermarket, the leaders, talking about the full renovation that was done, the memorial that was put in, inside the supermarket. there's a sort of waterfall and a poem honoring the victims. there's going to be a memorial outside at a later date. and of course, tomorrow is when they're going to have a soft reopening of this supermarket that is so important to this community. it is the only supermarket in about a four-mile radius in a place that people said, you know, formerly was a food desert. there are mixed feelings. some apprehensive about coming back into the store, whether customers or workers, and others saying, you know, we need this. we need this store to be open in our community so that we can have access to fresh food. but a very emotional time here as the families and the associates, the workers and staff here prepare to reopen. victor, alisyn? >> yeah, important center for that community. athena jones with the breaking news, thank you. all right, well, right-wing
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pundits and politicians tried to claim that the case of a 10-year-old rape victim in ohio was not real. then, the alleged rapist confessed. now what do they say? [ marcia ] my dental health was not good. i had periodontal disease, and i just didt feel well. but then i found clearchoice. [ forde ] replacing marcia's eth with dental implants at carchoice was going to afford her that permanent solution. [ marcia ] clearchoice dental implants gave me the ability to take on the world. i feel so much better, and i think that that is the key.
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new information now about an abortion case involving a 10-year-old rape victim who crossed state lines to get an abortion. indiana's attorney general is now investigating the doctor who
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helped the girl. the story quickly caught the public's attention, and some conservatives doubted its credibility, including ohio's attorney general. >> not a whisper anywhere. something maybe even more telling, jesse, is my office runs the state crime lab. any case like this, you're going to have a rape kit. you're going to have biological evidence, and you would be looking for dna analysis, which we do most of the dna analysis in ohio. there's no case request for analysis that looks anything like this. >> well, after the suspect was arrested, that attorney general released this statement. "my heart aches for the pain suffered by this young child. i'm grateful for the diligent work of the columbus police department in securing a confession and getting a rapist off the street." >> cnn's jean casarez is following the case. brian stelter is following everything that's happening around this case. jean, let me start with you.
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we heard from the ohio a.g. that there was not even a whisper, that clearly there would been an investigation. >> let's look at the timeline in relation to what he said. first of all, the timeline, and this is based on the felony complaint that has now been released, along with the hearing that was yesterday, the arraignment hearing. it says that on may 12th is when this rape occurred. that is what the complaint states. then goes on to say that june 22nd, the police report was generated for the rape of a child. and then on june 30th, it says that this 10-year-old girl went to indiana because the law as it stands now in ohio is six weeks, you can have an abortion. the ob/gyn told cnn in indiana, it was six weeks and three days, so she had to go to indiana. then, we know that on july 6th, that law enforcement obtained her dna, so not until july 6th,
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and then we also know that she, herself, identified fuentes as the perpetrator. on july 12th, which was this tuesday, a search warrant was executed to obtain fuentes' dna. fuentes was taken to the police station, and he confessed to raping the victim on at least two occasions. which is a very interesting statement to look at. >> jean, just out of curiosity, do we know why the attorney general wouldn't have known any of that evidence? >> well, as far as testing, do we know when the testing started? we don't know if a rape kit was done. his dna was just taken on tuesday. the statement was made on monday by the attorney general. so, if we look at the timeline, was there not testing done? >> there was no police report. there was a police report, but maybe no dna yet. >> but there was that. that is correct. that is correct. there was something in the system. >> and brian, conservative
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media, conservative members of congress, held this up as jim jordan said potentially a lie. the a.g. there in ohio said that this likely was fabricated. any contrition now? >> i'm not seeing any contrition at all. in fact, the attorney general in the state, yost, he says, tell me why i should be sorry. watch this. >> tell me what you think i got wrong, and then i'll consider whether i should apologize. i'm not aware of anything i was wrong about. i stand by everything i've said. >> representative jim jordan tweeted out, as you said, another lie. anyone surprised? he didn't put a question mark. he said the case was a lie. there was a claim that the story of this 10-year-old was a hoax, so unsurprisingly, he has deleted that tweet, moved on, and certainly, right-wing media has moved on. the national media will probably move on but this 10-year-old's life will be changed forever, the worst experience of her life will now be following her around, scrawled across the media, criticized and attacked and doubted by national
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politicians. there's been this attempt by conservative politicians and conservative media to down play and even deny the consequences of these abortion bans. and i think that is the broader context of this story, an attempt to say, hey, it's a hoax. now we know it's anything but a hoax. we know there's this 10-year-old girl suffering and she's not going to be the only one, there will be other girls in other states faces the same choices and situations and i worry we're going to go through this terrible cycle again, where there's going to be an attempt to deny reality. >> we are. because as the fear was, when roe vs. wade was overturned, there would be snocenarios like this, and it didn't take long for a real scenario like this to pop up, and the problem is that all of the people who fought against solabortion didn't have solution, so are all 10-year-olds going to have to travel to different states and be questioned in the media? i mean, this is -- there's no solution yet. >> i looked up the definition in ohio because there is a medical
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emergency exception, and i looked that up. and it is sort of vague, but there is a question, well, a 10-year-old child, what is the damage that could be done? is there a medical issue here? and that is for a pediatrician or others to denote, but it is, in a sense, like a case of first impression, right? that suddenly, you have this extraordinary and tragic situation that has come up but is reality and has to follow a law. >> and now what about this potential investigation in indiana into the doctors that helped this 10-year-old girl? >> this is another layer because you've got the legal case, the political issues, and then you've got this, the attorney general of indiana is stating that the -- a doctor that performed this abortion, this medical abortion, that you are a mandatory reporter when you're in that position, and that she has not reported, legally, as she is supposed to, you know, child abuse, child assault, child rape, and that their office, this was uncovered, they're looking into it. we have reached out to her throughout this day, dr. caitlin
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bernard, and we have not heard back from her. but there are always two sides to the story. we want to hear her side. >> brian, the -- very quickly, the mark of a real news organization is when you get something wrong, you disclose that to your viewers or readers, and you apologize. so the fact that other organizations are not doing that, what does that tell us? >> the national outlets that were suggesting this was a hoax, they were not in the courtroom. there was one local reporter in the courtroom getting the truth about this story. and it's not just about ohio. indiana, the place where this girl had to go to get an abortion, republicans in that state are about to consider a strong abortion ban in indiana. this is a story that is local but across the country, state by state, and unfortunately that means there's going to be more cases like this, not hoaxes, real-life cases. >> thank you both. demand is quickly outpacing supply for the monkeypox vaccine as cases continue to rise across the country, so we're going to
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doses have been distributed, but still, supply is falling short. >> one man who just had monkeypox is now sharing his experience on social media. >> i had a sore throat, cough, fever, chills. i was sweating through my sheets at night. just overall really miserable, swolle swollen lymph nodes, not good. >> joining us now is that man, matt ford. thank you very much for being here. how did you realize you had monkeypox? >> sure, thank you for having me. so, my situation was a little unique in that i got a call on friday, june 17th, from someone telling me that i had likely been exposed, so that was when i first noticed the lesions, and so i knew from the get-go that it was probably monkeypox. >> i want to talk to you about these lesions because you just outlined your symptoms for us, and it sounds horrible, flu-like symptoms, sore throat, full body chills, sweating. you sent us some pictures of your lesions, and i want to pull them up here. they look, to me, you know, sort
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of mild, like a mosquito bite or something. but how many did you have of these, and what did they feel like? >> yeah, so, i counted, in total, 25-plus of them all over my body, arms, legs, sensitive skin, scalp, everywhere. and they were, at worst, on more sensitive skin, excruciatingly painful, constantly, to the point that i couldn't sleep and had to be prescribed narcotic painkillers and at best, they were still itchy and irritable. >> that's enlightening, that you had to have hard-core painkillers because the lesions were so painful. were they itchy? >> oh, yeah. they were itchy, irritable, and the painkillers i had just kind of just barely cut it for me to even be able to sleep. it didn't even totally wipe out the pain. >> so, matt, i understand that at some point, you got a call from the california department of public health. they contacted you.
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and then did they issue a court order telling you that you had to isolate and you had to stay inside your house? >> yes. yes. so, i had been in touch with the l.a. county department of public health from the day, you know, i got the call that i had been exposed. i got a test the following monday, and it didn't come back positive until the friday after, so it was a full week from the day i found out i was exposed and first had symptoms to when i had a confirmed positive result. i was isolating in the meantime anyway but as soon as they had that positive result, yes, i got a court-issued stay-at-home order via email. l.a. county is the only one i know of that's doing that. but i got it, multiple other people got that. and i just had it formally lifted two days ago when i went to the department and was cleared. >> so, how long did you -- were you alone for? how long did you have to isolate? >> i was in isolation for a little over three weeks, three weeks and three days. it was a long time. >> matt, that's a long time.
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that's longer than covid. so, how has this whole process been for you? >> you know, i'm very fortunate and grateful that i had a good support system, so i had a lot of people checking in on me. the department had a nurse checking on me daily. i had a lot of well wishes, which was a surprising positive reaction to speaking out on social media. but it was tough. about two weeks in, i was starting to go a little bit stir crazy, and like you said, it's a longer isolation time than covid, and that really does a number on someone. so, it was hard. i'm glad to be done with it. >> the experts that we've spoken to say that gay men are more at risk. are you hearing about anyone in a larger community or friends that have also had it? >> yes. absolutely. especially since coming forward publicly on social media, i have had countless dms from friends, acquaintances, total strangers, all different cities and countries, messaging me, saying
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that they have it, sending pictures, a lot of people think they've been exposed, trying to get tests. it seems like it's been kind of a mess from soup to nuts in terms of getting vaccines, getting tested, trying to get treatment, an antiviral to treat it if you do come down with monkeypox, so it's been really frustrating. >> and i know that it's your impression because of all of that response that the numbers are actually higher than the official numbers that experts are dealing with. >> absolutely. yeah, i've seen it in an npr article. my doctor told me as much. i heard it from another doctor today in a teleconference and the cdc itself has said it, i believe, that the actual number of cases are way higher than what's currently being reported, due to lags in testing and, you know, a lot of systemic issues with the american healthcare system. >> so, matt, how are you feeling now? >> i am very glad to report that i am basically back to normal. i still have a little redness from where the lesions were, but there's smooth skin.
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i'm no longer considered contagious, the isolation order has been lifted so i'm glad to just be living my life again but still being very outspoken about this because it's obviously a very much ongoing outbreak. >> i appreciate you being outspoken and sharing it with us. what's your message to everybody? >> my message is, if you can, get vaccinated. obviously, that's tough with short supply, but more are on the way so as soon as you can, get vaccinated. and please try to keep in mind and remember that there's no place for shame or stigma in this. we learned from medical crises before that those don't help at all. >> matt ford, thank you very much for your candor. really appreciate you sharing your experience with us. >> thank you for having me. first on cnn, new information about a phone call made by former president donald trump. which january 6th witnesses did he attempt to get in contact with? we've got details. ♪ limu emu ♪ and doug. ♪ harp plays ♪ only two things are forever: love and liberty mututual customizing your car insurance,
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steve bannon will head the court after a judge rejected his attempt to delay his trial. he is a close ally of former president trump. he argued the new film will sway the jury. he is accused of failing to testify in turnover documents to the committee. we are learning about the identity of a january 6th witness who claims they received a phone call from former president trump. it is a form support staff and in a position to corroborate some of cassidy hutchinson's testimony. welcome back. we have heard from german thompson who said this was highly unusual.. >> is shows a very deep consciousness of guilt on
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donald trump's behalf. that's what guilty people do. they reach out to witnesses. it sounds like this person is not even in his inner circle. look, there has been a mountain of evidence that has been presented by the january 6th committee as it relates to donald trump's guilt. they have completely dismantled any innocent explanation he could have as to why he assembled the mob at the capitol. >> let's stay with the senator election. he is looking to quash a subpoena, to appear before a special grand jury as part of this investigation to return the 2020 election. he said it was his understanding to look hard and see how many ballots you could throw out.
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why do you think he wants to kill the subpoena? >> it looks like what we knew going into this investigation was that they are anti- majority. they don't want to majority to actually mean something. they were looking to throw out votes that showed the majority voted for joe biden. again, in the criminal investigation if you are asked to cooperate and you don't believe you did anything wrong, it seems like you would crawl through grass and walk through fire to show you are innocent. >> we just had this conversation with brian and jean about the 10-year-old in ohio who had to travel to indiana for an abortion because she was six weeks and three days into the pregnancy. you had this bizarre exchange with catherine glenn foster today in this hearing before
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the house. i'm going to play the exchange and then get your thoughts. >> would a 10-year-old choose to carry a baby? >> i cannot -- >> do you think a 10-year-old should choose to carry a baby? >> i believe it would probably impact her life so it would fall under any exception and would not be an abortion. >> it would not be an abortion if a 10-year-old, with her parents, made the decision to not have a baby that was the result of a rape? >> he just talked about some medical exemptions in ohio. what was your reaction to what you heard there from liz foster? >> it was completely shocking and it shows that they don't want the public to know what their long really does, which is it requires a government required pregnancy for little girls. it is a war on little girls.
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no 10-year-old, i have three young kids myself, i cannot imagine a 10-year-old having to be forced to deliver a baby. now, we are seeing the indiana attorney general suggesting they're going to go after the doctor who performed that procedure. that is not in line with what most americans believe. a woman should have the right to make her own health care decisions and a family, when a child is raped, to make sure that 10-year-old does not have a pregnancy forced upon her. >> president biden, at this news conference in jerusalem, swatted off the question about the poll that found that 64% of democrats think the party should nominate somebody else in 2024. the president says he intends to run. i want to remind people about what you said during a debate in 2019 about then candidate joe biden. let's play that. >> i was six years old when the presidential candidate came to
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the convention and said, it is time to pass the torch to a new generation of americans. that candidate was joe biden. joe biden said it was right when it was time to pass i do torch to americans. he was right and he is still right today. >> do you still believe that? >> the voters didn't believe that and that is what is most important. they got it right. that was before the pandemic. having a seasoned hand take us from the freefall america was in to where joe biden took us was the right call. i am in congress. i love my job and i'm trying to bring to leadership here. i think, joe biden will going to be supported -- >> in the primary? >> excuse me? >> in the primary? >> yes. certainly trying to bring this democracy that was fractured by
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