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hello and welcome to "inside politics." i'm abby phillip in washington in for john king today. we have hours and hours of new footage from uvalde and a new report blames law enforcement for sitting and waiting as children and their teachers were slaughtered. >> we've been saying all along systemic failure, human error. certainly everything you can imagine happened on this day. plus, steve bannon walks into court for day one of his trial for contempt of congress.
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and senator bernie sanders says joe manchin is betraying his president and his party. >> he didn't do anything. he has sabotaged the president's agenda. the problem was that we continue to talk to manchin like he was serious. he was not. >> but we begin with the new body camera for tfootage and an investigation report that shows the horrifying reality of systemic failures in response to the uvalde shooting. the video shows confusion over who was in charge at the scene and shocking moments of inaction by law enforcement. families, understandably, of the victims are angry and they are desperate. they are saying that they still aren't getting answers. one father is now calling it a cover-up. >> everybody is throwing everybody under the bus. the only ones that ain't under the bus is because they're six feet in the ground now, and that's our children. and the two teachers. >> they could have rushed in. maybe not all of them were going
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to make it but at least in their final moments to hold their hand and comfort them, let them know they're there with them. but they did the total opposite of that. they stood there as people bled out. >> and another reminder of the reality of gun violence in america. as the community in uvalde is still trying to get answers on that massacre, another community outside of indianapolis has been shattered by a mass shooting in a mall. i now wantin to go to uvalde whe rosa flores is and has been covering the story. ro rosa, give us the big takeaways from this report. >> reporter: you know, abby, these were vast, broad, catastrophic failures from multiple levels of law enforcement. and i want to show you also and tell you about this report at the same time because i'm at the school. this is the door where that gunman entered. if you look beyond that, you can see that the boarded windows are
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here. he actually fired shots before he entered the school. he entered the school at 11:33 p.m. that's where the failures begin. that door was unlocked. he walked in, then made a right. according to this report, the door to room 111 was most likely unlocked. and so he started firing and he entered that room. within three minutes there were 11 officers that arrived on scene, two of them with rifles. according to this report and other reports, there was plenty of firepower to stop that gunman. but instead the officers retreated. and that's where the wait begins. this report also states that pete arredondo, the police chief, actually wrote the active shooter policy. he wrote himself in as the incident commander but that he didn't take the role. he also wrote in that the administration office was going to be the incident command post, but he didn't go there, he stayed at the scene and he
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didn't take command of the scene, according to this report. then the failures grow bigger from there. it says that hundreds of police officers responded from multiple levels of law enforcement, local, state, federal, and all of these officers, according to this report, who had active shooter training did not act on the training. this says, abby, that those officers should have questioned the fact that there was so much chaos and that there wasn't command here, but those officers didn't. again, that is part of the vast failure. abby. >> absolutely. that chaos and confusion that you're talking about, we have some body camera video that shows a little bit of what that looked like. take a listen. >> the chief is making contact with him, right? >> no. no one has made contact with him. >> [ bleep ]. >> what are we doing here? >> i don't know, man. >> do we have anyone that's hit on this side?
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any of the kids or anyone hit? >> no. we don't know anything about that. >> what are we doing here, you hear one of the officers say. what are we seeing in this video, rosa. >> reporter: you know, there's a few important points about that, abby. that shows some of the chaos, that shows some of the confusion, some of the inaction. but beyond that, according to the timeline, the shooter at some point begins shooting again. now, that's where the report and other law enforcement experts have said that even if there was confusion by some of the officers who arrived after the first gunshots were fired, they should have acted on their training once the shooter started firing his weapon again. at that point the scene transfers. in their mind if they were thinking this was a barricaded subject, based on their training, they should have transferred over to an active shooter. abby, we know that did not happen. >> rosa, there was a lot of
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conversation when this first emerged about the door to the classroom that the shooter was in and the report lays out and the body camera video shows officers trying to use keys to open that door. the uvalde school district chief, pete arredondo, then tries to talk to the gunman. listen to what he says. >> mr. ramos, please respond. can you hear us, sir? please don't hurt anyone. these are innocent children. please put your firearm down. we don't want anybody else hurt. >> was the door locked? was the door unlocked? did they need the keys? what does the report say about all of that? >> reporter: you know, abby, it says that they didn't need the keys, that that door was mostly unlocked. it goes on to say that that door that you see behind me, so this is where the shooter entered and this is where the law
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enforcement entered, so there was law enforcement on this end of the door and there was law enforcement on the other end. and in between there is where pete arredondo was trying those keys. in this report it clearly states that there was crossfire and they were telling arredondo at that point in time that there was a, quote, fatal funnel and arredondo kept saying expletive, wait, expletive, wait. it just speaks to the volumes of catastrophic failures that were happening here while children were in those classrooms waiting to be saved. >> that waiting was so incredibly tragic. rosa flores, thanks for all of your reporting on this story. and with me now is former assistant secretary of homeland security and cnn national security analyst juliet kayyem and retired captain ron johnson from the state highway patrol. juliette, you heard all of the things that rosa just reported
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on. none of us can really forget that at the end of the day there were kids in that classroom calling 911. just take a listen to this operator audio giving a message to an officer who was on the scene at the uvalde elementary. >> you have a -- >> what was that? >> a child is in the room with victims at this moment. >> so that message was conveyed to that scene. why didn't they act on it? >> they didn't have the right process in place. the right process, we've now all come to understand, is the incident command system. you create literally an incident command post. the planning had it, that it was going to be a particular room. you were going to have an incident commander. why does process matter in a crisis? it matters so you're not
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second-guessing who knows what. it's for communication, it is for intelligence gathering. what are different people hearing. and then how do you want to essentially deploy your resources. so i read the report yesterday to basically mean once they did not establish the basic foundation, the bones of how you would respond to an active shooter case, they couldn't ever redeem it. in other words, they could never get it back. they didn't know what was going on. they're getting different pieces of information. they think he's a barricaded suspect when it's an active shooter. the incomprehensible part of it after that incomprehensible part of it is none of the other 200 plus law enforcement agents will question the process. they fall into chain of command and they defer to who they think is an incident commander. so i heard a parent in the run-up say it's still a cover-up. my heart breaks but i kind of want to say it's not a cover-up, it's inexcusable.
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that's the problem. i think we know the explanation now. it is literally inexcusable. >> captain johnson, if you were an officer on that scene, what is the protocol for each individual officer making a decision about what they're going to do in a moment like that? they know there are children in that room injured calling 911. >> well, we've learned from past incidents there needs to be an immediate response. those first officers on the scene if there's prior training with law enforcement in the region they create a team, whether that's a team of six, eight, 12 or four, whatever it is, and begin to go toward the incident and confront it immediately. command post is something that you would set up for something that's more long term but this is active, it's immediate, so you immediately set up a team and go. that's why training is important. so even if you had six officers and let's say a team from six
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different dentalpartments, theye versed because they'd have had same protocol. >> there were a total of 20 agencies that responded including state and federal agencies. eventually the group that breached the classroom was a border patrol agency. what was supposed to happen? does it make sense to you that none of them would in the course of over an hour that this was going on taken control of the situation if it seemed like the local authorities didn't have it under control? >> that part does not make sense. there's a strong deference to local first responders. so when the feds come in, they're going to defer almost inevitably to the locals or at least the state so there's that deference aspect. just as ron as saying, part of the active shooter protocol is don't think about it. until you actually eliminate the threat, he's either captured or dead, you can't know what's going on. so there's not a lot of interplay and they all should
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have been on that -- basically following that policy. so once again, from the initial moment when something is not triggered, that's where -- you can't redeem it after that. >> captain, quickly before we go, the report lays out that the robb elementary school had a, quote, culture of noncompliance with safety policies that required the doors to be kept locked and that ended up being fatal, including that the room, 111 where the shooter was, the lock on that door was known to be faulty. all of this taken into consideration, is there anything that other school districts can learn about what went wrong here? >> well, we have to learn that not only are officers, they need to be trained in protocol and procedures and the right people have to be in place, we have to make sure we're training our teachers and giving our teachers the tools so they can be successful and so they can be sure their classrooms are safe. we know our teachers guide and
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teach our youth and are committed throughout this country to our young people, but we have to make sure they have the right tools and understand the importance of all those protocols. >> and according to the report, that faulty door was reported multiple times and was not ultimately fixed. chief johnson and juliette kayyem, thank you for being with us. coming up next, a brand new subpoena in georgia. the fulton county d.a. wants some documents and testimony from a trump ally and a sitting republican congressman. you need to hire. i need indeed. indeed you do. indeed instant match instantly delivers quality candidates matching your job description. visit hey, i just got a text from my sister. you remember rick, her neighbor?
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this just in to cnn, sitting republican congressman jody hice has been subpoenaed out of georgia. the fulton county district attorney's investigation into donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. cnn's sara murray is joining us now. sara, what do we know about this new indictment? -- subpoena, i'm sorry. >> yeah, this is coming from a
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court filing. it was a subpoena to congressman jody hice. she wanted them to appear before the grand jury that's investigating donald trump and his allies' efforts to overturn the 2020 election. we see in this court filing that the congressman is trying to move this subpoena out of state court into federal court. we'll see if he tries to quash the subpoena from there. we reached out to his office and attorney for comment and haven't heard back. what we don't know from this subpoena is exactly what the district attorney wants to talk to the congressman about. we know from public reporting from the congressman's tweets at the time that back in december of 2020 he was in a meeting with donald trump and mike pence talking about sort of ways to get around the election results. he tweeted that he would lead an objection to georgia's electors on january 6th. it may be something related to that. it may be something else that they have learned from another witness that led them to want to question the congressman. either way he's clearly at least trying to delay his possible testimony, if not to block it
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altogether. >> and folks at home may remember him because he failed to unseat the georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger but also today the first test of the january 6th subpoena power in court. the test case, former trump strategist, steve bannon. he's charged with contempt of congress for failing to comply with a subpoena and a trump appointed judge is hearing it. what do we know about this judge's history with bannon. >> well, he's had a tough go. he's been very deliberate listening to bannon's concerns but ultimately bannon tried to do things like delay the trial. the judge refused to do that. bannon wanted to argue that he had some kind of presidential executive privilege that prevented him from having to comply with the subpoena. the judge blocked that. the judge has basically blocked most of the defenses that steve bannon wanted to bring up at trial to the point where at one point steve bannon's attorney said what's the point of even going to trial if we don't have any defenses. so we'll see how this pans out
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for bannon of the right now we're in the jury selection process. it's slow going but they want to be very clear they're picking jurors who do not have a predetermined view of steve bannon and this case. they're asking these jurors how much of these house select committee hearings they're watching. it's been slow going so far this morning, abby. >> thanks, sara, for that. steve bannon faces as little as one month or as much as one year on these charges. we'll be back with you. here to share their reporting is manu raju, m.j. lee, mario park fer from bloombg and shan wu. shan, i do want to start with you. steve bannon is now going to be on trial. he's been trying to push back on this but it obviously hasn't been working. the judge even saying he's not going to be able to call sitting congressmen in this trial. what are you expecting to see as
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this unfolds, perhaps very quickly over the course of the next few days? >> don't blink or you'll miss the trial. i think it's just a factual case for bannon. i think the question is whether or not he'll choose to testify or not. there is little to be gained. defense lawyers don't like their clients to testify. but he likes to have a platform so you might see him insist on taking the stand to try to make some political points for himself. >> do you think the objective is to try to get leniency? even bannon's attorney said there's no defense for him not complying with the subpoena. >> i don't think it's a trial to get leniency. i think he wants to get up there and make his points, build his own following. i don't think there's much real legal objective here. frankly for him, it's not a huge amount of time he's looking at either. >> not a huge amount of time, but time nonetheless. steve bannon, i mean we all know him as a trump guy. but here's why the january 6th committee wanted to talk to him.
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here are the call logs. trump had a phone call with steve bannon 8:57 a.m. it lasted for a few minutes. and then again at 9:46 p.m. that call also lasted for a couple of minutes. but here is what steve bannon said on his show in the intervening time. take a listen. >> all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. just understand this. all hell is going to break loose tomorrow. it's not going to happen like you think it's going to happen. it's going to be quite extraordinarily different. and all i can say is strap in. the war room, a posse, you have made this happen and tomorrow it's gameday, so strap in. >> manu, at this point does the committee still wanti to talk t steve bannon or is it about the power of the subpoena? >> it's both. bennie thompson, the chairman of the committee, told me last week that they would like to talk to
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him. but just because he says he will comply with the subpoena and now belatedly in the run-up to this trial doesn't mean they were going to bring him forward. they want him to produce documents first. he needs to fully comply with the subpoena before they depose him. his offer to testify seems to be an effort to stave off something serious in his trial rather than come before this committee. but that is a key moment. donald trump was speaking to steve bannon in the run-up to january 6. what did he say in that phone call? the claim that bannon said there was executive privilege here, bannon was not an employee of the white house at the time either. so the january 6th committee says a lot of questions he has raised and he needs to come forward. >> and the power of the subpoena question that you just raised is a big one. we know that the january 6th committee is continuing to do its investigation. the members have made very clear that every day they are collecting more information, more people are coming forward, they are interviewing additional people. so whatever ends up happening
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from this bannon trial is potentially going to be very informative in terms of learning about what the power of that subpoena is and sending potentially a message to other people who are contacted by the committee, subpoenaed by the committee, what could happen if you try to just outright avoid the subpoena and just ignore it altogether. >> it seems like there's always a possibility with steve bannon that this just becomes a total sideshow. >> and that's exactly -- you hinted upon it. with steve bannon, he uses this bombastic language. he referred to the january 6th subpoena as he's going to be medieval, all hell is going to break loose previously as well. so for steve bannon, on the one hand this helps his brand, right? and we also have to remember that former president donald trump has been pretty upset there's been no republicans that are fighting on his behalf, right? steve bannon, of course, casts himself as this fighter for maga, so that's another thing. >> i wouldn't be surprised if what he wants to do is play that
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role privately or publicly on trump's behalf. coming up next for us, this week the january 6 committee is back in primetime with a problem of a minute-by-minute account of how little donald trump actually did to stop the siege, coming up. so we offer a complete exam and x-rays free to new patients without insurance - everyday. plus, patients get 20% off their treatment plan. we're on your corner and in your corner every step of the way. because your anything is our everything. aspen dental. anything to make you smile. book today at, walk in, or call 1-800-aspendental.
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this week the january 6 committee promises to, quote,
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fill in the blanks and reveal the extent to which then president donald trump did nothing was insurrectionists overran the capitol. >> he was doing nothing to actually stop the riot. we'll go through pretty much minute by minute electricity time he left the stage at the ellipse, came back to the white house and really sat in the white house. >> the president didn't do very much, but gleefully watched television. i know i would have gone ballistic and he did quite the opposite. >> the president didn't do anything? >> the president didn't do anything. >> these 187 minutes loom large over everything the committee has done. how specific are they going to get? >> i think they're going to get pretty specific. we have seen parts of this already come out through the course of these hearing processes. remember, cassidy hutchinson, she testified that pat cipollone wanted to have a meeting with donald trump. meadows was saying donald trump doesn't want to do anything. that was before cipollone spoke
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to the committee. we'll see what he revealed in those interactions with donald trump on january 6th and whether in fact trump said he didn't want to do anything or if he provides any more details about that. so they'll get specific on that. but this will be the culmination of what we've seen in this buildup, donald trump pressuring the state officials to change the election results, pressuring mike pence to do that, pressuring the justice department. ignoring the fact this was illegal what he was doing and now the ultimate impact, january 6th, what did he do and what did he not do. >> this has been shrouded in so much mystery. reporters that cover the white house have been digging on this for the entire time since january 6th happened. s so the idea that this committee would be able to get inside the white house would be very significant. >> and the members have said that there's going to be a minute-by-minuterecreation of what donald trump was doing and more importantly what he was not doing. we already have a pretty good idea that he refused for many,
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many minutes as violence was unfolding on capitol hill to call out to his supporters to say cut it out. but i think what the committee has demonstrated throughout the course of these hearings is the ability to sort of vividly paint a picture, whether it is through videos that we might not have seen before, through testimony of course that were conducted via video, to really clearly present a vivid picture of exactly what was going on. that has the potential to be really powerful, even though, again, we do have a great sense already that president trump was not willing to do anything to stop the violence. >> and potentially very damaging politically to trump as he is, as we speak, considering an early announcement to run for the presidency. listen to elaine luria talking about how that may or may not affect the committee's ongoing work. >> it will not change how we're conducting this investigation. the purpose of this investigation is to lay out the facts of everything that led up to january 6th, the events that
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happened that day and prevent something like this from happening in the future. the bottom line is that no one is above the law, whether he's a president, a former president or potential future presidential candidate. >> realistically, do you think that the committee's work is also affecting trump's political calculations as well? >> oh, there's no question about it at all. previously we've heard these ebbs and flows as to when the former president wanted to announce, whether he would announce as well. all of those things. it wasn't until the january 6th committee revelations that we were for certain that former president donald trump is going to run again. he's signaling that in various interviews. the folks we talk to are signaling that he's chomping at the bit as well. and so this has forced his hand politically. >> shan, i want to talk to you about this idea of a trump investigation. doj is working in a parallel fashion. politico says this about how a trump investigation might affect some of these other defendants who are currently in litigation with them.
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if the department of justice starts assertively mounting a criminal investigation of trump it could create delays in other january 6 trials because defense attorneys for hundreds of defendants could demand access to much of the evidence against trump as part of their discovery process. what are you seeing in terms of what the doj is doing on both of those fronts? >> the doj is moving at such a glacial pace that i don't think that matters very much. more power to them if they're ramping this up. there could be some fifth amendment privilege problems for defendants that get charged or targeted, if they were going to testify before january 6th. but honestly at this point doj can move forward and it's not going to gum up anything with the january 6th committee. on the flip side, the committee continues to produce evidence that would make any good prosecutor salivate at getting that evidence. so it's really them helping doj. >> yeah, it seems doj has been following the january 6th
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committee. m man manu, this is the last hearing that we know of on thursday. it sounds like if you hear adam kinzinger, it's just an open door and they feel like they can continue if they need to. >> yeah. i think they're going to have a report. we'll see if it's an interim report or final report. they'll put it out. it's probably going to come out before the midterm elections. at that point they may have a couple of hearings, one or two hearings to spotlight their findings in this report. the question is are they going to be done with it. they have interviewed more than a thousand witnesses, they have tens of thousands of pages of documents, they have more information requests out there and are suggesting they want to continue on. but as we know november comes, the house republicans could take control of the house and shut this whole thing down so they don't have much time to continue. >> even if they want to continue, they may not be able to. on thursday, the january 6 committee is turning to president trump's conduct, as we were just discussing, during the capitol attack.
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what happened at the white house during those 187 minutes? tune into our special live coverage of the january 6th hearings thursday, 7:00 p.m. eastern time. up next for us, the democrats are venting their fury at senator joe manchin as he deals another blow to the biden administration's big policy ambitions. godaddy lets you sell from your online store or in person and manage it all from one spot. trusted by over 20 million customers worldwide, godaddy has the tools to sell anything anywhere. start for free at oh, that i can't believe i scored this price feeling! wayfair always delivers small prices for big dreams. ♪ wayfair you've got just what i need ♪
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senator bernie sanders is publicly slamming joe biden after the west virginia -- joe manchin after he torpedoed president biden's climate and tax agenda. take a listen. >> people like manchin, sinema
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to a lesser degree, who are intentionally sabotaging the president's agenda, what the american people wanti, what a majority of the democratic caucus want. we continued to talk to manchin like he was serious. he was not. >> over at the white house, the rhetoric is noticeably less fiery. >> i'm not going to get into the tos and fros back and forth. the president for some time has been laying out what we need to do on clean energy. if congress and the senate is not going to act on that front, he is going to take the powers that he has with executive authority and take steps on that front. >> our panel is back to discuss this. so, manu, obviously people are furious. although some people would be like, well, bernie sanders is not a democrat but he's speaking for the progressive wing of the party right now. >> yeah. look, he may not like it, but bernie sanders has to deal with the reality that they are in a
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50-50 senate and trying to pass joe biden's agenda through a budget process that requires them to do it along straight party lines. they can do it along straight party lines which is what they are trying to do. they need manchin's support and that's why they have been frustrated the last year trying to get a deal. remember where they starred. they started talking about a $3.5 trillion expansion of the social safety net. manchin was open to it, talking about it, he suggested $1.5 trillion. now they're not anywhere close to that. but there is -- could be some significant policy changes. he is open to allowing medicare to negotiate the price of prescription drugs. he's also willing to extend expiring subsidies under the affordable care act. so there could be some policy provisions that get into law, but that's still not enough for what the left wants. >> that is of the things that they started with, they are down to two of the items. the white house is, as you heard there, not really taking this as
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an opportunity to slam manchin, because they think that they need to get to a deal with him. politico wroites this. unlike sanders, schumer and the white house are not attacking man manchin. they want to move past him and emphasize the victory achieved rather than what was lost. a reconciliation bill that lowers prescription drug prices and subsidies to millions who rely on the aca will be one of the bills passed in a long time. in other words, take the win. >> and expect to hear more of that from the white house and president biden's allies in the coming days and weeks where essentially the message is, look, we're focused on what we can get, not what's already happened but what is still salvageable. but the reality is as manu just said, there is real frustration. there's real frustration at joe manchin, although the white house has long sort of stopped reading out any activities, communications between the white house and senator manchin.
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i think that there is growing frustration that you hear from the base, from democrats, who feel like, well, we know we have a democratic president in the white house. we know that democrats control congress. so why isn't more getting done? of course the political reality is what you just pointed out, it is 50-50, evenly divided senate. they can't get anything done unless joe manchin gets behind and every member of the party gets behind. >> we are quickly approaching the midterms as well and these front-line democrats are sounding the alarm. mark kelly in arizona says the biden administration needs to be looking for more opportunities. raphael warnock in georgia, we need to do something. elissa slotkin saying what we need is a plan. i am not looking for a messaging plan. inflation is very bad and joe biden's approval rating is bad and getting worse it seems. so the stakes are very high for something to get done. >> yeah, absolutely.
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president biden, i mean he spent four decades in washington before so he wants something deliverable for his members to go back home with. but m.j. makes a good point. just the level of frustration from the base. the base for the previous four years and the previous administration saw all of the deliverables that went toward former president trump's base. they wanted the same thing out of president biden, to keep his party in line and on track and unified as well. then when manchin goes astray, that adds to the frustration with both him but also president biden's ability to unite his party. >> what is the democrats' message running into the midterms? they really don't have one. they're now running -- they recognize full well that inflation also will be the dominant issue ahead of the midterms. how do you deal with that? they all have a whole bunch of ideas, none of them which will become law, like a gas tax holiday would have much of an impact on gas prices or anything else but that is their real fear
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now to the war in ukraine where president zelenskyy suspended two of his officials after an investigation found dozens of his staffers were helping russia. the ousted officials are ukraine's prosecutor general and intelligence chief. zelenskyy says more than 60 employees in their departments are suspected of treason. cnn's ivan watson joins us live from southeastern ukraine. ivan, these are two key security positions. what is going on here and what happens next? >> reporter: well, in zelenskyy's words, there was a kind of fifth column operating within these branches of kind of the security forces and law enforcement. so he says that there are at least 651 criminal cases of treason that are being investigated that involve employees in the prosecutor's office and in the intelligence agency and that some 60-plus
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employees of these agencies in fact have stayed in russian-occupied territory since the start of the russian invasion on february 24th and that they're actively collaborating with ukraine's enemy, russia. and that is part of the grounds for suspending the prosecutor general and the head of the security bureau who is in fact a childhood friend of president zelenskyy's and a close political ally of his. so there seems to be some kind of internal cleanup under way. not all of this is very clear. some of this is opaque because it has to do with the supreme court forces in this raging war. by the way, that does continue to go on. we have fighting, of course, in the east of the country and to the south of where i am right now. the ukrainians claim that they carried out several long-range strikes in the province directly to the south of here against what they say was a gathering of
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military vehicles and fuel depots for the russian forces. meanwhile, amid all this fighting, civilians continue to flee. i've been visiting shelters today, and welcoming points. there are about 400 to 500 people arriving every day just to this city that i'm in right now which is already housing more than 60,000 internally displaced people, part of the millions of ukrainians who have been forced to flee their homes by this devastating war. back to you. >> ivan watson, thank you so much for that report. coming up ahead for us, a prominent voice in the fight against covid-19. dr. anthony fauci is talking about retiring. i'm jonathan lawson here to tell you about life insurance through the colonial penn program. if you're age 50 to 85,
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so, ask your doctor about adding preservision. and fill in a missing piece of your plan. like i did with preservision" topping our political radar, dr. anthony fiauci is planning o retire by the end of president biden's first term. he spent seven decades advising seven presidents. fauci, who is 81, said he is not basing his decision to leave on whether covid-19 is finally contained. >> i'm not exactly sure when, but i don't see myself being in this job to the point where i can't do anything else after that. so that's the reason. it has nothing to do with pressures, nothing to do with all the other nonsense that you hear about, all the barbs and the slings and the arrows. that has no influence on me. >> and it's mike pence versus
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donald trump in arizona. pence is endorsing arizona republican karen taylor robson for governor. trump is backing the other candidate, kari lake. lake is an election denier and arizona's current governor is no fan. >> this is all an act. she's been putting on a show for some time now, and we'll see if the voters of arizona buy it. kari lake is misleading voters with no evidence. >> red meat or serious legal argument. on his podcast senator ted cruz argues for a conservative legal challenge for the right for same-sex couples to marry. >> the court said, no, we know better than you guys do and now every state must sanction and permit gay marriage. i think that decision was clearly wrong when it was decided. it was the court overreaching. >> though the house plans to
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vote this week on the respect for marriage act which would enshrine same-sex marriage as federal law. thanks for joining "inside politics" today. ana cabrera picks up our coverage on cnn right now. hello, i'm ana cabrera in new york. thank you for being with us. i hope you had a nice weekend. happening right now, trumpism on trial. former trump advisor steve bannon is in court and jury selection has begun in his contempt trial for refusing to comply with the subpoena from the january 6th committee. now, this case is a major test of what leverage congress has. plus, heroic encounter. a good samaritan stops a mass shooting almost as soon as it begins. we have the details from inside this indianapolis mall. first, egregious


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