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comcast business internet customers. so boost your bottom line by switching today. comcast business. powering possibilities. hello, everyone. i'm alisyn camerota. >> i'm victor blackwell. good to be with you. this is a high stakes week for the january 6th investigation. right now a showcase trial for key trump ally steve bannon is happening in a d.c. court. later this week, the panel holds a prime-time hearing on former president trump's actions during the insurrection. >> at this moment a jury is being selected in steve bannon's contempt of congress trial. bannon was indicted in november after defying a subpoena from the house select committee
investigating the january 6th attack on the capitol. last week bannon made a last-minute attempt to delay this trial, suddenly offering to testify publicly before the panel. but the trump-appointed judge rejected that motion. >> cnn's sarah murray is outside the courthouse. what should we expect here? >> reporter: well, it's definitely slow going this morning so far before they take a lunch break, they had chosen eight jurors. they need to get to 22. they're asking them their awareness of bannon, their awareness of the committee hearings. there are a number of people who said they are aware of the hearings, they've paid a little attention. it's clear the judge wants to be very careful that he's putting together a jury pool that doesn't have a preconceived motion about whether steve bannon is guilty or innocent in this case. look, there's a lot on the line for steve bannon. he's facing two criminal contempt of congress charges. if he's convicted, he could face
anywhere from 30 days to a year behind bars. that's part of the reason why you saw him move over and over again to try to get his trial delayed or perhaps dismissed. but that is not the case. things are moving ahead. it does seem like at this phase it's possible the jury selection could bleed into tomorrow. >> what's happening in georgia with that investigation? >> reporter: sure. this investigation is continuing. this is into donald trump and his allies and whether their efforts to overturn the election results in georgia were criminal. what we just learned from a court filing this morning is that the district attorney there actually subpoenaed congressman and wants him to come before the grand jury. he is filing a motion to try to move that from state court to federal court. we'll see if he moves beyond that to try to quash the subpoena. we reached out to his office to see what his plan is there. >> sara murray, thank you very much. this thursday the next january
6th hearing will be broadcast in prime-time. this one on focus on president trump's actions or inactions during those 187 minutes while so many police officers were being injured and the violent mob was trying to find vice president pence. let's bring in cnn's jessica schneider. what do we know about the plan for this week's hearings? >> reporter: this is the eighth hearing, possibly the final hearing for a while and it's promising to give americans this minute-by-minute summary of what exactly trump was doing for those 187 minutes between the time he finished his speech at the ellipse, which we know prompted people to march to the capitol and attack, and then the time when he released a taped message telling rioters, they were very special but they should go home. the question is, what was he doing all that time? some committee members have given a glimpse that trump really did nothing and especially did nothing to stop the violence. >> he was doing nothing to actually stop the riot.
we'll go through pretty much minute-by-minute during that timeframe from the time he left the stage at the ellipse, came back to the white house and really sat in the white house. >> the president didn't do very much, but gleefully watched television during this timeframe. i know i would have been going ballistic to try to save the capitol. he did quite the opposite. >> the president didn't do anything. >> the president didn't do anything. >> reporter: so the committee is really expecting to tick down minute-by-minute what trump exactly was doing, and we should also be getting a lot more perspective from inside the white house since, victor, and alisyn, we'll likely here a lot more from former white house counsel cipollone's deposition. the committee has aired about a dozen clips during the last hearing but they are promising to release a lot more from that in this coming prime-time hearing on thursday, plus other details about the 187 minutes and what trump was up to, guys. >> also the committee is expecting to get secret service
texts from january 5th and 6th pretty soon. initially the report was that they've been deleted. what can you tell us about this? >> reporter: so the question is, do these texts still exist, can they be recovered. so members of the committee, they're saying really they'll know more about this tomorrow and that's when the secret service is set to at least respond to their subpoena. it's been unfolding really day by day. the ig met with committee members on friday, essentially complaining that the secret service erased messages, text messages from january 5th and 6th, crucial dates. the secret service, though, said that the data was lost during a routine phone replacement. there was nothing malicious. but committee members are sort of raising eyebrows because the secret service has also said that none of those missing texts were relevant to the ig's investigation. that's something the ig seems to dispute here. we'll see tomorrow if those texts are eventually produced to the committee or what information the secret service might respond to based on the
subpoena. so there's a lot of questions here as to what can even be recoverable, if anything, and what the committee will get likely tomorrow, guys. >> jessica schneider, thank you very much. norm eisen is a cnn legal analyst and was especially counsel or the judiciary committee during trump's first impeachment trial and michael bender is a political correspondent for the "wall street journal" and author of "frankly we did win this election: the inside story of how trump lost". norm, michael, welcome to you. norm, let me start with you on the bannon trial. is this a tough case to prove? >> victor, alisyn, thanks for having me back. it's not a tough case to prove. steve bannon got a subpoena. when you get a subpoena, you have to show up and answer questions. if you feel you have privileges, you can assert them. he didn't show up, so he has a very narrow defense that the court will allow him to make
that he didn't really understand, he thought he had more time. but that's not true. so he also didn't produce documents. it's an easy government case and that's why the government is saying they're just going to put in two, three witnesses and probably dispose of their case in a day. >> michael, let's talk about what we think steve bannon will do in the courtroom. we know he's very brave on his own podcast, which is the safest space in the united states, your own podcast studio, where you can say whatever you want unchecked. do we think, knowing his style for grandstanding, that he will take the stand and he will try to hog up whatever air time there is? >> yeah, it's a very good question. that's part of steve bannon's m.o. politically and commercially from his podcast, is to sort of create a circus-like atmosphere and keep people's attention. we've seen some of this already in what he's tried to do leading
up to this moment. he's tried to claim executive privilege, the judge said that didn't exist since steve bannon was not an executive employee at the time. steve bannon has tried to call nancy pelosi as one of his witnesses. the judge said that was not going to fly. we're seeing a little bit of that today, one after the other, of his defense attempts shut down by the judge, prompting bannon's attorney at one point to say, what's the point of a trial if we have no defense. and the judge, a trump appointee, shot back that he agreed that that was a very good question. >> michael, let me correct you, "the new york times," i want to make sure i get that right. i see that behind you there. norm, to you on right before the start of the trial, bannon said, okay, i'll talk to the committee. obviously this does not stop the justice department moving forward with its case.
but do you think that precludes him from speaking with this committee now that the trial has begun? >> i don't think it precludes it, victor. i think that what bannon was doing here, with trump's collusion, because there was a trump letter supposedly waiving executive privilege, except we found out from another one of trump's lawyers that bannon had never been told he had executive privilege in the first place. this is a game to muddy up the waters in the trial. the judge has taken a very dubious look at it. he probably won't be able to -- bannon probably won't be able to use it. and the committee has said they would like to talk to him, but we'll see if he really means it. i think it's game playing. >> michael, i do want to ask you about some "new york times" reporting. we now know where president trump got the idea to replace his attorney general and
possibly call martial law and try to seize voting machines. basically "the new york times" is reporting on this memo from a little known conservative attorney named william olsen, who wrote on december 28th, after a christmas day phone call with president trump, wrote this memo, our little band of lawyers is working on a memorandum that explains exactly what you can do. the media will call this martial law, but that is fake news. a concept with which you are very well familiar. so what more do we know about what this attorney was trying to do? >> this attorney, by the looks of this memo, is trying to give trump reasons, rationale to really overturn the results from the november election. this memo came about a week and a half after that wild meeting in the oval office that the
congressional committee zeroed in on last week, featuring several characters who were not white house employees, who were not actually advisers. and pat cipollone's testimony in that meeting, about that meeting, was that he walked into the oval office stunned that these folks were even in the white house, let alone the oval office, telling the committee that to this day he's not sure how they got in. and what this memo adds to this is a couple things, i think. it shows trump's interest, even after that meeting where his own attorneys in the white house were telling him that there was no proof of any fraud, that there was no grounds for him to overturn this election, he was still searching for rationale and folks to tell him that this was a worthwhile pursuit, to which cipollone was saying it wasn't just in the meeting.
it was in the meeting in the white house, on the telephone, trump looking for any way he could, anyone to tell him what he wanted to hear, which was that he belonged in the white house even after the american people voted him out. >> norm eisen and michael bender, thank you both very much. systemic failures and poor decisionmaking, the fallout continues from that damning report on the uvalde school shooting and newly released video shows confusion over who was in charge and shocking moments of inaction by law enforcement. >> plus, the surge in gun violence has impacted a city near indianapolis. police give an updating about a shooting in a mall that left three people dead. the gunman was stopped by an armed bystander. we have all the latest details ahead.
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more anger and heartbreak in uvalde, texas, after the release of the first comprehensive state review into the robb elementary school massacre that killed 19 fourth graders and two teachers. this report found, quote, systemic failures and egregious poor decisionmaking by law enforcement. 376 police officers went to that scene, but no one took charge. the school's then police chief, pete aaron rrendondo failed to up. >> it concluded the door to one of the classrooms was probably never locked to stop the gunman. cnn was the first to obtain body cam video from officers inside
the school. it shows the moments they learned children were in the cl classroom with the shooter, but it still took nearly 40 minutes for officers to go into the room to shoot and kill the gunman. >> what was that? a child called 911. >> the shooter is still standing. >> the room is full of victims. >> there's victims in the room with him? >> a child on the phone, multiple victims. >> the child just called. they have victims in there. >> kcnn's ed lavandera has more. what's the response to this report? >> reporter: we just spoke with one gentleman who was inside the meeting where state officials released the report to family members yesterday afternoon here in uvalde, described this feeling inside that room as very tense, as the, quote,
lackadaisical response was outlined in great detail. this report focused on a number of things. we'll start off by talking about the issues with the law enforcement response. they talked about how various agencies were to blame for a, quote, systemic failure, that there was a lack of effective incident command, essentially no one really taking charge of the scene there to implement the end of the shooting there inside the school. also that officers failed to follow the basic tenets of an active shooter plan, as well as a communication breakdown. at one point the report lays out that pete arrondondo, as he approached the scene, he had multiple radios that were dropped as he was entering the school and there were school issues the report laid out which were rather extensive, which the report says hampered the response, including bad wi-fi inside the school, which did not
help the communication situation. there was no use of the school intercom to alert the building to the active shooter situation going on. and there were questions about, obviously, the door that the gunman entered the school was not locked. that seems to have been a recurring issue, and most striking at all, room 111, one of the rooms where the gunman entered, was probably not locked. and then you've seen in this video we've obtained there were shots of law enforcement officers outside of the room fumbling with the keys, thinking they needed them to get inside the room. the report is saying perhaps all along they could have simply just opened the door. this is all incredibly devastating for all of these families here in uvalde to hear, and many of them, a few of them, are beginning to speak out about what it was like to hear these details in that meeting yesterday. >> maybe not all of them were
going to make it, but at least in their final moments, to hold their hand, to comfort them and let them know that they're with them. but they did the total opposite of that. they stood there as people bled out. they stood there as they took their final breath. >> reporter: many families here also watching all these different law enforcement agencies, in their words, essentially point the finger at one another about how things went wrong. but the police chief told the state committee that he was treating the situation when he first walked into the school as a gunman barricaded. they felt they had him cornered. but it was clear, as you listened, that there were 911 calls coming from that room and that is why there has been such a great deal of criticism levelled at the officers who responded to the scene. >> understandably. the more we learn, just the more heartbreaking and frustrating it
gets. ed lavandera, thank you very much. let's bring in a former fbi supervisor and cnn law enforcement analyst and a former new york police detective and current law enforcement consultant. gentlemen, so glad you could be here with us. pete, i want to start with you because you served as a team leader of the fbi bomb squad for years and one of the catastrophic mistakes we've heard is there was no team leader. when you look at this video that cnn has obtained, what should have happened as this was unfolding? who should have been the team leader here? >> good afternoon. it should have been the chief. so you can never delegate responsibility in a situation like this. you go through the video, you see the chief actually on the phone with his weapon drawn inside of one of the corridors. there's one point he's actually trying to use the keys that were mentioned previously to try to get in the classroom. that's not his job. his job is to direct the flow of traffic in and out of the
building and give orders and commands based on the information that is being provided to him. he was not doing any of that. so he is the main failure right there. but it comes down to training, his preparation with crisis management and how well was he trained on crisis management in order to deal with these situations. >> tom, let me bring it to you. what does the sestablishment of who is in command look like? we know the city department is on administrative leave as they try to determine whether he took any efforts to take command, and if that was even feasible. when you come onto the scene, when you have so many agencies, how do you establish who that person is? is it articulated to the team? >> it's articulated by jurisdiction guidance. so, for example, it's his jurisdiction. he can't delegate that to anyone else. the only person that could possibly come in is a federal
agency, but they're never going to usurp his jurisdiction. it's always the local commander that's in charge, whether it's the new york city police department. the fbi never came in and said we're in charge. it didn't matter in uvalde, it didn't matter in parkland. the local municipality is always in charge and the police commissioner, the chief, that lieutenant is the person in charge until relieved by somebody of higher rank within their own demand. that's incident command 101. >> tom, let me ask you this as your role of a former detective. victor and i have probably covered two dozen school shootings, and one thing we never talk about enough, i feel, is the responsibility of the gun store owner, and in this case in this new report it turns out that the owner of the gun store does have some information. here's what it says in the report. the owner of the gun store described the attacker as an average customer with no red flags or suspicious conditions, just that he was always alone
and quiet. patrons of the store who saw him told a different story in fbi interviews, saying after the tragedy that the attacker was very nervous looking and that he appeared odd and looked like one of those school shooters. another described his all black clothing as simply giving off bad vibes. is there any way to get gun sellers, gun shop owners, to ask more questions? i know they're not legally bound to, but to just have what was visible to the naked eye to these other customers, that something was off with this kid. what as a detective would you like to see gun sellers do? >> good afternoon. this goes back to what sort of gun reform laws do we want to put in place that would potentially prevent an atrocity such as this, and you meet the
resistance of many who don't want questions to be asked. but then i want those same people to be talking to the families of 19 dead children and two dead teachers. it's just ridiculous that we don't have enough things in place to prevent someone from obtaining a weapon who clearly should not have a weapon in their hands, and then walking into a school or a church or a mall or the grocery store. i mean, we're looking at an age where we know that people are obtaining weapons, troubled people. and then they're going out and committing these heinous acts of murder. so we have to attempt to try to do as much as we can to thwart that effort of that person being able to get their hands on weapons. aside from the fact that we now know that some of the fault lies with the school, they didn't -- and the police that responded
and their response, but first and foremost, let's remember the blame, the main blame here is the person that entered the school and slaughtered all of these young kids and never should have been able to do that. >> we now know from the chief himself in his own words, his rationale to determine this was a barricade situation and not an active shooter, i'm just going to read this line, he says, to me, once he's in a room, you know, to me, he's barricaded in a room. our thought was, if he comes out, you know, you eliminate the threat, correct? and just the thought of other children being in another classroom, my thought was we can't let him come back out. he comes back out, we take him out, eliminate the threat. let's get these children out. in hindsight that was a deadly decision. in the moment, what's your reaction to the rationale he was using? >> yeah, look, i'll be the first one, as you know, we've been doing this for a number of years, and i'll be the first one
to back the police if they've done things legally and lawfully by procedural guidelines. i'll also be the first one to question and have a problem with when things are not done according to what the industry standard is. now, if you're dealing with a barricaded person, yes, then you would do that. you would isolate, contain, you would wait for backup, a s.w.a.t. team, hostage negotiator. but when you have an active shooter situation, especially going back 20 odd some years since columbine, this has evolved to a state where standard operating procedure that i know of across the united states is that you go in and you disable the threat immediately. quite frankly, if it was you, me, and alisyn, victor, if we were the cops responding, the three of us, we should have the autonomy to be able to go in and make every effort to disarm or disable that threat and to prevent further death and
injuries from occurring. i shouldn't need to have to wait for a supervisor's approval to go in and take this guy out. it's just crazy. >> thank you so much for your perspective and insight. just getting this in to cnn, police just provided new details about a mass shooting at a shopping mall south of indianapolis last night. >> three people were killed, among them a husband and wife having dinner, two others were injured, one of them a 12-year-old girl. police say a 22-year-old good samaritan who was lawfully carrying a firearm shot and killed the gunman. cnn national correspondent athena jones has been following this press conference for us. now what are police saying? >> reporter: we're now learning the name of the good samaritan, the 22-year-old. up until now we knew he was from a neighboring county. his name is elijah dickens and he was there with his girlfriend last night at the hall just shopping. he was armed with a pistol. he believes it was perhaps a
glock. he's going through a lot, the police chief said. he has allowed his name to be released but this is someone who went to the mall just expecting to be shopping and not expecting to do what he did. but they also walked us through the timeline of the shooter, a 20-year-old jonathan saperman who he was able to neutralize. this shooter came into the mall about an hour earlier than closing, just about 5:00. he came into the mall, went straight to the restroom near the food court. so this shows some kind of planning. he waited there for almost until 6:00 and then came out and began firing straight into the food court. he hit several victims whose names we also now know. a married couple, both of whom were shot and killed by this gunman. the third victim, victor gomez, age 30 of indianapolis. so this is really quite the sort
of scene, it's the sort of thing you hear pro gun rights advocates talk about, a good guy with a gun being able to stop a bad guy with a gun. this young man was lawfully armed, as we understand it, he didn't have to have a permit to have a gun there in indianapolis. this is what resulted. but the fact of the matter is this does not often end in this way where a civilian, untrained, is this lucky in being able to neutralize someone. three people still died. >> it's the rare exception, actually. >> it's the rare exception and we heard from the police chief, james eisen, talking about this good samaritan. listen to what he had to say. >> at 5:57 p.m. the shooter was confronted by our good samaritan who had a pistol and engaged the shooter as he stood firing into
the food court. the shooter fired several rounds, striking the suspect. the suspect attempted to retreat back into the restroom and fell to the ground after being shot. he engaged the gunman from quite a distance with a handgun, was very proficient in that, very tactically sound. and as he moved to close in on the suspect, he was also motioning for people to exit behind him. he has, to your knowledge, he has no police training and no military background. >> reporter: so pretty remarkable outcome. and we should note that the shooter, the one who was ultimately killed by this good sma samaritan, had according to his family members been practicing at a shooting range. he had been going for the last few years practicing firing and buying ammunition. still a lot more to be learned about this incident. pretty incredible situation there. >> athena jones, thank you.
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there are close to 2,000 cases of monkeypox across the u.s. and a former fda commissioner said the window to control the virus has probably closed. >> i think the window for getting control of this and containing it probably has closed, and if it hasn't closed, it's certainly starting to close. we could have gotten control of this if we had been aggressive up front. we made a lot of the same mistakes we made with covid, not having testing early enough, not deploying vaccines in an aggressive fashion. >> so dr. fauci just said that americans need to take this more seriously. cnn health reporter, jacqueline howard joins us now. how are we supposed to take this more seriously? >> reporter: what thaks like, so far here in the united states, we've expanded test to go five commercial labs and rolled out a vaccine, even though there has been criticism that vaccine supply and access could improve, and we do have therapeutics.
but could we have done better early on in this outbreak? well, dr. anthony fauci answered that question with our colleague, kate bolduan, just this morning. >> could we have done better? always. you never say we did perfectly. but i think looking forward with more vaccines being available, with therapy being available, and there is a lot of red tape associated with that. response hasn't been perfect, but it's getting better and better. >> reporter: so we heard that there is some optimism that response is getting better, and as for the current situation right now, there are 1,814 cases of probable or confirmed monkeypox here in the united states. that's across 45 states and jurisdictions, and that's up from last week. a week ago there were 866 cases, now we're at nearly 2,000. so this is an outbreak that's continuing to increase and we're continuing to watch the situation. alisyn and victor. >> we certainly are. jacqueline howard, thank you.
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what's happening? where are there more sharks and why are they coming closer to shore? >> great question, alisyn. the reason we're getting more sharks is because the conditions which sharks like to survive in environmentally are getting better. there's basically three factors here on why we're seeing an increase in sharks along new england and places like new jersey and new york. number one, the environment is much healthier. for example, 30 years ago boston harbor was considered one of the dirtiest waterways in the world, now it's one of the cleanest. number two, we have an increase in the prey species. we have booming populations of harbor seals and gray seals, and for great white sharks that's their target prey species that they like to eat. number three, climate change. warming waters mean that species that tend to live and inhabit tropical or warmer places on the planet, for example, florida,
those species are migrating north to waters that are now more inviting for them. >> jeff, what are beachgoers supposed to do this summer? are there certain days you shouldn't go in the water? what are the warning signs that you should look for to avoid sharks? >> it's interesting. so i think the species that people worry about the most, which would be the great white shark, for me anecdote ally, i think that presents the least harm or threat because this is a species that's really looking for large marine mammals like the gray seals that i mentioned earlier. but the two recent attacks that happened, i think the species that likely was the culprit was a dusky or a sand tiger shark. these are smaller sharks. so both of these injuries, they weren't life-threatening, thankfully they were minimal injuries, they weren't catastrophic. if you are bitten by a large
predatory shark, you're going to know it and there's going to be serious damage. so i think the conditions that these folks were in when they were bitten by the sharks was poor light conditions and a lot of murkiness in the water, poor visibility. most attacks happen close to sunset or sunrise, where there's not a lot of light in the water, oftentimes because of weather conditions like rain, and, of course, poor visibility in that water increases the possibility of a test bite or a false response when a shark bites onto something that it soon discovers doesn't make a good source of food. >> i'll never go swimming at sunny set again, thank you for that. meanwhile, i want to ask you about something from last week. victor and i reported on these sea lions in san diego who were chasing people on the beach. here's the video of it.
one report was that they were mad about people taking their picture. what do you think was happening here? >> well, i tried >> i tried to watch this video myself, but i was really distracted by victor, and his hysterical response to this moment. i think he needed a glass of water and drank it back wards, but, no, seriously, people were violating the space of these sea lions. it's actually illegal to get close to these animals. they're protected under the marine mammal act. when a sea lion or a seal or an elephant seal, when it hauls itself on to the beach, it's doing that because it needs to rest. it's not doing that because it's lazy. it's literally trying to conserve all of its energy, so when human beings distract these animals or basically harm them by getting them in their space, they're actually putting these creatures in jeopardy because they're losing the energy
reserves and they're stressing these animals out. it's illegal. i think it's kind of selfish. it's very negligent, and it shows this behavior we see more commonly today around wild animals. people being gored by bison in national parks because they get too close, and animals that are protected legally, but get too close because they want the ultimate social media moment. it's a big problem, and frankly, if i was those sea lions, i would have been a little ticked off myself. >> jeff corwin, thank you very much. you and i didn't have to get close to enjoy them and have a viral moment. >> lesson learned on sea lions, you all will not forget that. thank you, jeff. >> jeff, thank you. president biden returned to d.c. with a growing list of challenges. poll numbers are down, inflation is up and his legislate agenda seems to be going nowhere. what it means for the midterms, next. his car just anywhere...
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president biden returned from his four day trip to the middle east to challenges back home. >> his approval rating hit a new low. inflation hit a new 40-year high and the list of things he can possibly get done before the november midterms, it's getting shorter. cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny joins us now. so how's the white house tackling all of this? >> reporter: victor and alisyn, right now, president biden has been huddling with his advisers throughout the day. he has nothing on his public schedule which gives you a sense they know they need to reboot and figure out the next steps. there are 113 days until the midterm elections. that sounds like a lot of time but of course it's not. those midterm elections will determine if democrats will maintain their majorities in the house and senate. climate change is first and foremost here some actions coming from that. after senator joe manchin last
week essentially torpedoed the climate change plan, the president is expected to do some type of executive action on climate change. we may get more of a sense of that later this afternoon. look, the reality here is his approval rating is something that worries every democrat throughout the party that "new york times" shows his approval rating is 33%. we did get a bit of a window into the president's frustration from someone who's obviously very close to him, the person who's closest to him of all, first lady jill biden. she was speaking at a democratic fundraiser over the weekend as president was traveling and gave a sense into his mindset and frustrations. these comments are constructive, let's take a look at them. the president had so many hopes and plans he wanted to do, but every time he turned around he had to address the problem of the moment. who would have ever thought about what happened with roe v. wade, well, maybe we saw it coming but we still didn't believe it. the gun violence in this country
is appalling. we didn't see the war in ukraine coming. clearly frustration there, and also a sense of many of these things were able to be seen coming. this hangs over the entire question, is the president up to the task of facing these challenges here as he says, he's the only president the u.s. has right now. look for him to try and reboot in week, potentially traveling later in the week zas well. the challenges are immense. you can feel it in every conversation we have here, victor and alisyn. >> thank you, jeff zeleny. texas department of public safety is launching an internal review of its response to the uvalde shooting. we are live in uvalde, next.