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system there? there should have been a level of redundancy up back to ensure that state was not lost. finally, and i think this is the most important part, are any of the missing text messages -- do they have a material impact on the ongoing investigation? and i need full transparency. and then if there was any type of malfeasance or error made by the service. full accountability that was done. that is how they're going to start recovering from a couple of these missteps. >> you know, carey, sources are telling cnn that congress told the secret service on january 6th and then again on january 25th of 2021 that they needed to preserve and produce documents related to the capitol attack. the agencies had their phone migration started in january but this source says it was january 27th. after the request. what do you think of that discrepancy? they clearly have some explanation.
>> the secret service certainly has more explaining to do. the department of homeland security, which houses the secret service, really needs to take more of a leadership role in helping to manage this response to congress and get to the bottom of what has happened to these messages. i think congressional overseers at this point but they really need to start asking from the secret service and from dhs is whether the steps that they are taking to determine first of all, whether any of these messages are still recover -able. i think i am holding out, don, that there is still a possibility that this agency will be able to turn up more of these messages. let's not forget, the secret service is a law enforcement agency. it is an investigative agency. and a half substantial forensic capabilities. so recovering messages, investigating what happened here, it actually is something that they are quite capable of
doing and congress needs to really press in terms of what are the steps they are taking to try to recover first. second, i think the explanation about how did they get to this point. >> they really statements day, jonathan, and it says that they planned to do forensic examinations of agency phones. i mean, that sounds like they still have the phones. so should postpones be turned over to investigators for independent analysis? will they allow that? >> don your hitting on exactly what my questions were. we have to know what do they have. what's items of evidence value do they still possess that they can't work forensically to try to recover those text messages. but their other pathways that members of the investigators from the january six commission and the inspector general office they can also go and figure out who was assigned to those votes, previously. and interview them. i know we're up against the
clock a little bit. but those phones belong to somebody. that person had an intent to send a text message on the january 5th and sixth. i was the context of. that will kind of statement today make about electronic communications on those days. moment of the phone in the actual text messages. we can go get sworn statements and affidavits who own those phones to try to at least directionally c was there any information that was transmitted that has a material impact to the investigation. >> listen carry, jonathan talk about redundancy, and asking individually agents to make sure that their information is backed up. but before that phone migration secret service employees were told to manually backup their text messages. if they didn't their tex will be permanently deleted. why would the agency trust employees to voluntarily backup their information? >> it doesn't sound like a good way to handle and enterprise level technology chain that is
going on. in the agency, right. so i think this is rightly the purview of congressional overseers. it is rightly the purview of the inspector general of the department. to figure out was this something where a mishap. this was a technology transition that went off and it happens to be covering a period of time that is of critical importance to a major congressional inquiry and of national interest. so i have to say don, they saw everything that we've seen and read, but i'm not willing to think this is some kind of delivered activity on individuals within the agency to withhold information. i don't think we're there yet in terms of the facts it troops a little bit more like incompetence or mismanage behavior within a government agency which is not something i've never heard of before.
>> it's surprising that is the secret service. so thank you karen, thank you jonathan, we're gonna move on. i talk about opening statements given today in the trial of former trump aide, steep, bannon for contempt of congress for failing to comply with subpoenas from the january six committee. plan and has pleaded not guilty to both charges. but if he is down guilty each one carries a mandatory minimum of 30 days in jail. let's discuss now. cnn political correspondent, sara murray, his hair. and michael more. good to see both of you this morning. many legal experts have told us that this case should be an open and shut one. how are bannon and his lawyers defending him today? >> when it comes to what is happening in courts bannon doesn't have a lot of defenses at its disposal. they make clear, in their opening statements, bannon's attorney. that they're essential to argue that they thought the subpoena was still up for negotiation, including the date of to subpoena. of course, when bannon exited the court he had a lot more to
say about the house select committee. take a listen. >> betty thompson said a staffer over here. where is benny thompson. we subpoena thompson and they are hiding behind these phony privileges. he's too gutless to come over here himself. he's made it a crime. made it a crime. not a simple charge of wanting testimony. but a crime. and he didn't have the courage or guts to show up there. he sent a staffer. >> so in case it wasn't clear from, that steve bannon really wanted benito ms. into testify at his trial. the judge shut that down. when banner tried to subpoena him. he left the door open a possibility revisiting that depending on where the prosecutors case goes. but there is a very slim chance that betty thompson's gonna be testifying. especially considering he testified for covid today. >> i wish i didn't have the racy audiences time with the sideshow that this is. but this is a big deal that he is having to do this.
the prosecution says that bannon has traded profuse fall the. rules do you think that his defense holds any water here? >> i really don't. and i think that most of which are saying is just a circus. even from the sort of shenanigans outside the courthouse. but he's playing for is that that one juror to come forward and say, yeah will maybe, so maybe try to cooperate, maybe they're overreaching try to get him in. he's playing for the one. he's not playing for the win. and like the prosecution has to get and analysts to get a guilty verdict. so we just want to convince one person to trying argue but they're gonna say he did cooperate. didn't understand. he had found this wishy-washy thing but weather not the spin was effective. and i hope they get the. one at the end of the day i don't think they will. but this is a great move, by the way, to set a staffer in. because how you treat a tyrant. you sort of cut their legs out from under them.
by not playing up to the level. you bring in somebody low. and you think about it that's why we don't said president to dictators. because we don't want to put him in that position. so i thought that was a great move. on the part of the prosecutors office. >> is there any chance we can get a verdict in this trial before the primetime committee hearing on thursday night? >> don't rule it out. we don't know. this has amid going -- they do, but frankly there just aren't that many witnesses. i mean a lot of the stuff took along the way expected even getting to the open statements took longer than we expected. but this is not a child that has that many witnesses. so it is possibly. i think a lot of us could end up being about how long the jury deliberates when the dust just go to them. >> yeah, regardless, of the outcome of the trial. with the committee or the doj be having any information about but bannon has about with the president was doing leading up to january 6th.
or they just don't think he's gonna really say anything to cooperate? >> the committee has said they are still interested but they had maine wears that they're not interested in participating in the spectacle of steve bannon testifying in the public area. we haven't seen any indication from doj that they are interested in talking to ben and of course they have seen a number of cases previously wet it is like to interact with bannon. so, anything is possible, i'm not holding that out that this is going to all the sudden turn into steve bannon becoming a cooperative witness. so, michael, the committee is so concerning sending out more subpoenas. if bannon is found guilty, iffy sound guilty, that change the caucus brothers who might also be fighting? these >> i think there is a possibility of that and that's one of the goals behind a prosecution, to show that there might be consequences to flatten the rule of law and breaking the law. we have come a long way with the committee. they have done a lot of testimony and a lot of witnesses there. so, i don't know who else they
are going to need. at the end of the day, they are also up against the clock. they are moving closer to the midterm, closer if republicans were to take congress, or the house, and they disband the committee -- so, we are at a place where maybe they are wrapping up something to hear that. again, i don't know that these witnesses will be fighting a subpoena or necessarily the ones that tie or make the bridge or some of the other conduct or this is just another effort to talk about the systemic failure in the administration -- so, we will see. i hope that we are getting to a point where they are ready to make their point. and see at the end of the day when they come back. >> i want to ask you about your reporting on the atlanta area d a looking into trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia, telling all trump electors that they are all part of a criminal investigation, before they were just witnesses. what's changed, just now? >> we don't to tiredly know what's changed. but we do know from the court filings that district attorney
fani willis -- that new evidence has come to light. and that is what inspired her to send these target letters out. it's a significant step because, as you pointed out, a lot of these folks who are witnesses and a number of them had seemed like they were cooperating and willing to give her some information. so, we don't know if perhaps they were holding something back that she wants and that's why she is sending these target letters. we don't know if something came up in the interviews that made her, suddenly, think their conduct may have been criminal and they believed it before. but it does point to a big escalation in her investigation. >> why do you think, michael -- because i believe he said that this could be aimed at catching a bigger fish, prosecutors hoping that these -- could spill the beans? it's that's what's happening? >> i think that's likely. one of the reasons you send our target letters -- you are not required to do that, it's a state [inaudible] level. she's done and now, especially with a -- that doesn't have the power to invite anyone, which i find a little unique.
but one of the reasons you do it is you want to put pressure on someone as a witness, somebody who you believe may have -- conduct that you may move forward on. you put pressure on them to flip and come in and say, instead of prosecuting yourself, you've identified you to top it, though you want to talk about the man up the line or the lady in the conspiracy? or whatever the case may be. so, she might be using this as a way to sort of pressure, as opposed to really being serious about bringing some of these indictments. one thing that is concerning, a little bit, is we are getting mighty close to a statewide election here. and there is some real political implications that are going on in these letters and the timing, who is sending them out, who is involved in the case. this type of thing. i think that's something that she needs to be carer careful about. i don't want to arms your quarterback or. she's a good lawyer and a good prosecutor. at the same time, you don't need to make hasty decisions that provide arguments to defendants to say, this is not legitimate, you are not really calling me a target, you are
playing political games. we've seen that in some of the violence and so i think we will probably hear more about that as we go forward again. i think this is a goal to try to get people to flip, to talk, as she moves forward with this investigation, somewhat. again, a little bit of a cloth because we are back three and a half months out from our statewide election. and, you've got to say, why all of a sudden are we getting target letters going out, especially a statewide [inaudible] >> it's interesting, whenever i hear one of the legal types talk about that, because if anyone is in trouble all they say is, you know what, i'm going to run for office and get out of trouble because then they won't want to prosecute me. that is disturbing, michael. >> it can be disturbing -- it depends on how you take it as it can be. that is, we do not want the criminal process to affect our election. we don't want people to come in and if you've got a -- you've got somebody who's got a specific candidate they want to endorse, somebody with a specific goal, you don't want
to come in and take out a criminal prosecution against their opponent, just their candidate of choice can win. >> but you don't want anyone to just get out of trouble because they're running for office and they could be guilty as heck. >> -- post-folks are already running. this isn't a situation where we are talking about with donald trump sort of, is he going to [inaudible] presidential campaign because he wants to get out of trouble. in georgia these are people already declared, already in the race. >> yes. >> one of the reasons you keep the grandeur a process secret, you don't make a lot of press statements about the grand jury process. because it allows you to function without the fear and the threat that you are going to bring, get credit on something at the end of the day, not actually be a defendant not be legitimate top. and as you are working and take it to do your best investigation without bringing harm to people, at the same time, you are moving forward with your investigation, it allows you to [inaudible] >> georgia, i mean, right now, in the thick of it. always something happening down in georgia. thank you, michael --
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at cnn. the secret service was only able to provide a single text exchange of the inspector general, who had requested a month's worth of records were 24 secret service personnel. that's according to a letter to the january 6th committee obtained by cnn. i want to bring in our jeffrey toobin to discuss this. jeffrey, we were just getting this in again. it's saying the secret service was only able to provide a single text exchange to the inspector general who had requested a month's worth of records for 24 secret service personnel according to a letter the january six committee obtained by cnn. hello, jeffrey, any causal explanation for this, do you think? this is based on our colleague, jamie gangel's reporting. this is pathetic. this is just unbelievable that something so important and so obviously important even at the time. this isn't like the secret service was told months later
and go back and got if they had been seem significant at this time. everybody knew january six was an enormously important. according to jamie's reporting the secret service was told, on january 16th, just ten days later to preserve all the email and text traffic. and they didn't. and what happened. how could this possible happen? and who is responsible and most importantly wear all these text? these questions cry out for answers. >> how can this be is the question. especially considering the agency of the secret service and what they do. >> how can this be? that is obviously the right question. there are two possibilities. one possibility is incompetence, which is something that i believe is and generally the explanation for most things.
at least, according to this report, it's they seem to have trusted the individuals who had the phones to preserve things. as opposed to doing it centrally. which seems deeply idiotic. but the question of whether this was all a terrible mistake, alternatively, was there some sinister activity and then attempt to ditch correspondent so they didn't want people to see? again, that seems unlikely. but something went terribly wrong here. and somebody's got to figure out what happened. >> this is a key piece of reporting that i want to read here. again, here is the important part them viewers should know the just again. secret service only able to provide a single text exchange to the inspector general who had recovered a months worth of records. for 24 secret service personnel. this is generally, fifth and
january 6th. secret service submitted the response of records and identified namely a text message conversation from the for u.s. capitol police chief stephenson. two former secret service uniformed division chief, thomas elevate. requesting assistance on january six 2021. and advised the agency did not only have further records to respond to the dhs oig's request. according to the letter to assistant director ronald road on january six committee. whatever seeing here? what is this a? >> don, let's just pause and say in plain english but that letter says. they asked 24 people for 24 people's records for everything related to january 5th and sixth. and they got one text exchange. that is just ridiculous. and the question is, what
happens to the rest of the stuff and why wasn't it preserved? who directed this operation of getting rid of these text? why did they do it? can this be recovered now? because i think it's most people know, just as you hit the lead on an email or at the league attacks, doesn't mean it's gone forever. it is sometimes can be recovered. that is an operation that expected generate six committee and possibly the fbi will want to be doing. because these texts are very important. i mean this is perhaps some of the most important documentary records of what donald trump was doing on january 5th and sixth. because the secret service agents obviously were with him. for all that time. there's got to be relevant information and the idea that one texas change, out of 24 people over to critical days, it is just preposterous that
that is all that remains. >> johnson, rutgers former secret service agent, he is back with us. jonathan, i'm sure you note the breaking news that said they just gotten one single techs exchange. and jonathan decide not to do is protecting the president. that is not even related. so that's the secret service job to protect the president of the united states. >> don, this goes back to, i want more information. i don't want district drip drip or we have this and we got this. but i want is, you know, a full accountability. i need a diagnostic done on what happens to all of those devices. where are they. and i want to know is there a possibility or pathway forward for further forensic investigation of the small devices. and then, if there isn't, one of the other options. can we interview the individuals that possessed so small devices. the phones. who was on the receiving end of
the text messages? they may not have had their information completely wiped. so i want to see if hope's lost here in terms of trying to find out the informational transmitted. but it is going to be a difficult process. again, as they said earlier, we are up against time. the investigation is going to come to an end soon. the genius of commission, the inspector general, they have to work swiftly and work collaboratively with the secret service to find this information and get it out there immediately. >> all right, thank you john, thank you jeffrey. i appreciate it. we will continue to viewers as we get more information on. this so stacey abrams, running for governor of georgia. but while president biden's low approval impact her race and askar next. plus, sesame plates amusement park facing allegations of racism.
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why is it so significant that this is going down in your state? >> because this is a state that is has unfortunately a very long and recent history of voter suppression and of voter intimidation and challenges in our system. i know that one of the people on that list is the republican nominee for lieutenant governor. and that our current governor has said he is proud to have him as a running mate. he is proof of the fact that, in georgia, whether you are the governor who just happened not to commit treason, or the lieutenant governor who may have participated in the seditious act, that either of them are poor representation of what democracy should be in the state of georgia or in the united states. >> so, you mentioned the governor, you will be running against him, the president, i want to talk about that in the context of the current president -- joe biden's approval rating of dropping to the lowest level it has ever been. only 38% of people approving of the job. -- as you are aware of.
but these numbers don't look good, stacey. if voters aren't happy with the head of the party, that will have an impact on democrats in races across the country, including you in your governor's race. >> we understand that the national challenges are real, that the impact of inflation, that the rising costs are absolutely devastating to families. but we also know that the governor has the ability to do something about it. unfortunately, this governor has refused to act. he is sitting on more than $547 million that could help families stay in their homes. instead they are facing evictions at a record rate. he could do something on the record issue of gun violence. and yet he weakened gun laws to put more hands weapons in the hands of criminals and dangerous people. he could address the needs of women by expanding access to health care. instead of expanding medicaid, which would lower cost not only for lower income families cost across the board, he has signed into law the most extreme and dangerous abortion law in the state's history, making it dangerous for women to even
contemplate getting pregnant. he has made it harder to be a georgian, harder to survive here. and while the national headwinds may be real, we know that the pain and the trauma and the danger in georgia if brian kemp remains governor is also real. >> the question was about biden, though, and whether biden impacts you in your and your race. >> and my point is this -- that while we live in a nation where the president is doing his best to confront economic challenges that are happening around the world, we have a governor who has the very real tools in his hand, provided by democrats, to actually stave off the challenges. he has the ability to take millions of dollars provided to the state by president biden, by senator raphael warnock and senator jon ossoff. and instead he is refusing to deploy those resources. he is refusing to expand medicaid. he is refusing to acknowledge the housing crisis. and so it's very important that we recognize that the governor's races matter because governors have the ability to respond locally and directly to
the needs of the people. and brian kemp is refusing to do that job because he doesn't care or because he is unwilling to do his job. >> but doesn't seem to be helping him in georgia? i mean, maybe that's where georgians are. i'm just wondering. because otherwise he wouldn't be doing it if he didn't think it was beneficial. and the polls are showing that he is doing okay. >> the polls have us in a pretty dead heat. and the reality is, i have been traveling the state. i just got back from visiting baconton and albany. and tifton, georgia and every single place i hear from families who are in pain and i wonder why the governor won't step out and help them with their housing crisis. they want to know why he won't expand medicaid, when health care costs are real. when part of what is happening with inflation is that the cost of everything is going up. and when you have to decide between putting food on your table or putting medicine in your body, that is the wrong choice you have to make and georgians are being forced to make those choices, despite having the resources. georgia has the ability -- the governor has the ability --
to solve these problems. and he is refusing to. but he is counting on people only paying attention to what he has done. he is refusing to offer a single sense of what he is going to do to tackle this crisis. and that is why i'm going to run win the race for governor. >> you've got key senate race happening down there. what would it mean to georgia and of the country to have a center herschel walker instead of a senator raphael warnock? >> we begin by having a senator who has misled the public, misled the party, and misled the people of georgia. as opposed to senator warnock, who has done everything he can to serve our communities. he brought the resources to the state that brian kemp is currently taking credit for advantage of. he has been a champion for allowing croft's -- whether it is prescription drugs or making sure we have gas prices that are lower -- i stand in lockstep with senator raphael warnock because we believe that we can serve georgia. let's be clear, don. you can either have trickle
down economics or an economic policy that lifts all boats. unfortunately, whether it is herschel walker or brian kemp, they only serve those who benefit themselves. they have no proven engagement in communities that need their help, including a middle class that is struggling just as hard to stay where they are. raphael warnock is doing that work. i, as an independent and private citizen, have been doing that work. but unfortunately, the republican ticket has no interest in doing the work for the people of georgia. >> a similar question, as i asked you before -- i mean, herschel walker is, despite all the missteps, despite all the lies that he has been caught in, the facts that prove he has never worked in law enforcement and so on and so forth -- he is still doing okay in the polls. what does that say about where georgians are in this moment, that someone like herschel walker can still be doing well despite all of the headwinds or all of the controversy he has created? >> georgia is a divided state.
we are purple for a reason. we are half democratic, half republican. my race in 2018 was the difference of 1.4%. the victory that raphael warnock had a year and a half later -- i'm sorry, four years later -- that victory was 100,000 votes this is a very narrow margin state and because of that every vote counts. and that goes back to the original point. we have to have leaders who believe in democracy and believe in every voter has the right to be heard. brian kemp does not believe that. prior to his one day of grace, the fact that he is getting credit for not committing treason, he built a reputation as someone who not only spawned and -- suppression. he celebrated it. he said during his republican primary that he passed espy 202 because he didn't like the results of the federal election in 2020 and 2021. we win these elections when people know who we are running against. and because the state is divided, every vote is going to
count. raphael warnock are going to work hard, up and down the ticket, to make sure we turn out every single voter, to make sure that we have a voter georgia moving forward. >> stacey abrams, thanks for appearing. >> thank you for having me. >> and i want to know that we did invite stacey abrams opponent governor kemp on the show and he is welcome to join us on this broadcast anytime we have. news -- cnn projects maryland republicans have backed dan cox, an election denier, who has taken a series of hard-line conservative positions, as their nominee for what will be one of the most difficult governors offices for the party to hold in november's midterms. cox won the gop race to replace term limit governor larry hogan. and sesame place apologizing after one of the characters appears to ignore two young black girls. their mother responding tonight. >> the fact that this even
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appears to show a character ignoring to young black girls last weekend. the mother says the parks explanation of -- the cnn's brand drum grass has the story. >> i sesame place snub that one mom is calm calling intentionally racist. this nine-second video posted on social media over the weekend shows two young black girls along the parade route at the pennsylvania theme park, eagerly trying to get the attention of a character, rosita. you can see rosita giving a white parade goer a high five before seemingly signaling a no to the young girls. >> i was shocked. i couldn't believe that it happened. >> jody brown, mom to one girl and aunt to the other, says even more shocking is what happened after she stopped recording. >> that's when they proceeded to have the next family and i immediately said, no, -- supervisor. -- >> absolutely.
i immediately got upset. because i'm like, there is no way. there is no way that it just happened. >> she shows she tried unsuccessfully to talk to a supervisor. so, she took to social media. the post went viral. it got the attention of hundreds of thousands of people online, including civil rights attorney ben crump. >> had that been me, that whole parade would have been [inaudible] >> and singer kelly roland. on sunday, sesame place issued a statement. our brand, our park and our employees stand for inclusivity and a quality in all forms. that is what sets me plate place is about. and we do not tolerate any parks that are not -- to that commitment. >> the -- have said -- didn't intentionally say no to the two girls and instead the hand gesture was directed to someone asking the character to hold a child vote, which is against the rules. it also suggested that the costume may have inadvertently cause the performer to miss
seeing the girls at a lower level. >> what do you think about the explanation they gave? >> i think it was probably -- because you didn't take accountability for what the character did. instead, like, -- said, try to give an excuse. >> -- that's replaced apologize to the family and granted them a refund, adding, quote, it's not acceptable to us when children and families don't feel special, seen and included at our park. >> the matters went beyond a refund. this family deserves substantially more. the harms are real. these 26-year-old girls are going to have to live with this memory for the rest of their life. >> following the increasing backlash, including from his licensing partner, sesame workshop, the park said, we will conduct training for our employees today better understand, recognize and deliver inclusive equitable and entertaining experience to our guests. >> what do you say to your daughters needs as this becomes
a daughter issue? >> i want to show, you do have all this love, all this support from hundreds of thousands of people, so i like i told them before when this happened, everyone -- good people. >> brynn gingrass, cnn, new york. >> all right, let's bring in bakari sellers, also a lawyer. bakari, thank you. i want to say that sesame place first call this incident a misunderstanding. the second statement offered an apology and said employees would be offered to -- guest experiences. so, we have this. but there's also other videos similar out there of characters appearing to do the same thing. what is going on here? >> i don't know it is going on but i'm also not surprised. this is something that happens day in and day out to young black and brown children throughout the country. it is not just sesame place but it's this proverbial, we don't
don't see these children. we don't see them as equal we, don't see them as human, we see them as less them. my heart goes out to these young ladies and these young girls because of the fact that they didn't ask for all this. they just wanted a hug or an acknowledgment or a wave or a kiss blown in their direction. i, for one, believe that this is just something that happens on a daily basis. by now we have cell phones, so people are able to see it more often. >> listen, i think it's possible for one incident that you don't -- because you know those costumes. you've seen them. the character is actually looking out of the mouth of that costume. it's not -- and the vision can be-limited. but there are, again, as i've said, other, similar videos out there of young kids being, seemingly being pushed aside. so look, i don't know what happened. should we be buying their excuse? are there -- >> no --
that's part of the problem. and don, you know this. you've been in this business a long time. it's usually not the, acted usually their sponsor the cover-up or whatever it may be. and the response was just pathetic. i think is a way in which you handle a situation such as this. look, we screwed up. this person is going to go through training and they are going to be whatever. i'm not trying to cancel anybody. i don't want to council sesame place. it seems like people go there and have a decent time. but it's representative of many of the ills we have in this country. and people are gonna say, why are you making a big deal out of this? i'm not making a big deal out of it. but what i am telling you is that we have a problem in this country and it is pervasive from our school systems, to the water that we drink, all the way down to the fund we try to have with our children. whether or not you want to see it or not, it's right there on your face. >> bakari, thank you, appreciate, it we. well >> thank, you brother. >> a shocking realize crime on the set of law and order. -- the suspect is still at large. this..consider adding this.
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